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Willard and Dibs react to what Mykel Williams told reported in the locker room today. Is he going to make his season debut on Sunday in Seattle?
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00:00I mean, maybe this isn't, like, tree-shaking news,
00:04but this feels like news to me.
00:10Mikel Williams was asked at his locker today,
00:14Matt Barrows on the call,
00:18has the leaner you led to a better get-off
00:22and quickness at the line?
00:25Mikel's answer, we're going to see on Sunday.
00:30We're going to see on Sunday?
00:32And then he said it again, we're going to see on Sunday.
00:35All right.
00:36That sounds to me like somebody who's playing.
00:38It sure does, unless he's like, you know.
00:41I don't know what you're talking about next Sunday,
00:42because the Niners don't even play the next Sunday.
00:43Make sure you're there at 1045 as I go through my warm-up
00:46in advance of actually playing in a week.
00:49But, yeah, that's exciting.
00:51Big deal.
00:52Big, big, big, big, big, big deal.
00:56It's a medium deal.
00:57No, it's a humongous deal.
01:00He's going to be on a pitch count, as we all love to say.
01:02So if it's another body who can play 27 snaps, great.
01:07It's not a big deal.
01:08It's a medium deal.
01:09I just, I couldn't disagree with you more, and that's fine.
01:13But here's why.
01:14The defensive line, along with wide receiver,
01:17is the group that has been absolutely attacked.
01:20Osa Odigizua, two weeks ago, said, never seen anything like it.
01:25He goes, it doesn't make any sense.
01:26You remember the stat that was out there.
01:28The Niners broke camp with 10 defensive linemen.
01:31Six of them are gone.
01:34Like, and this is their first-round draft pick last year.
01:40I'm not saying he's going to come in and wreck the game.
01:43I'm saying the presence of Mikel and the trickle-down of what that means for Osa,
01:49what it means for Grayson Halton,
01:51what it can mean even for the guys on the outside,
01:54just to have another body.
01:56But to have a first-round body, sure, coming off an ACL.
02:00Pitch count, probable.
02:01Is he going to be every bit of himself?
02:03Probably not.
02:04But then again, who knows?
02:06Nick Bosa was coming off an ACL in the very first play of the year.
02:09He was in Matt Stafford's lap.
02:11So, like, I hear...
02:13A different level player, for sure.
02:14Sure, but we never even really got to know who Mikel Williams is.
02:19Right, he played, what, six games?
02:21Six games.
02:21Roughly?
02:22Six games, and their run defense was significantly different
02:26when he was active and on the team.
02:29So, my point is that on the defensive line,
02:33this is no different than, you know, if Demarcus Robinson,
02:37when he becomes active again.
02:38Like, anybody who is reliable and effective at those positions right now,
02:44I think that is a monster deal to get him back into the mix.
02:48We don't even know if he can be effective
02:50or somebody who can actually stay on the field.
02:53We've only seen not even a half a year
02:55from a first-round defensive lineman,
02:57and we've seen first-round defensive linemen before,
03:00such as Javon Kinlaw and Solomon Thomas,
03:03and these are guys who,
03:04even when they were healthier than Mikel Williams,
03:07they were not that impactful.
03:08So, until he goes out there and actually puts it on tape
03:11for a long period of time,
03:13I'm going to say it's a nice story.
03:15It's a good deal.
03:16It's a medium deal for me.
03:18You can look at it however you want.
03:19You know what I mean?
03:20I mean, Jaxo Lundeborg has never played an NBA game,
03:22but people think that his addition to this group
03:25is a really, really big deal,
03:26and I feel the same way about the Niners' last two
03:30first-round draft picks,
03:32and I know Dajon Stribling's technically
03:34not a first-round draft pick,
03:35but their last two first picks,
03:37and quite frankly, last three,
03:39if you enter Pearsall into this discussion,
03:42when those guys become available to the 49ers again,
03:47that's just how my eyes view it,
03:49and it's okay.
03:49We can look at it differently,
03:50but I think this is a huge deal.
03:52This guy's a major talent.
03:53He had a profound effect on their run defense
03:56when he was playing,
03:57and he rejoins the team at a position of intense need
04:02at a humongous time,
04:04obviously, as they go to Seattle.
04:06So if Michael Williams is going to play in this game,
04:09even if all he gets is 25 snaps out of it,
04:12who knows what could happen on those snaps.
04:14I think this is a significant development for the 49ers.
04:18Here's Kyle Shanahan today
04:20talking through injuries and practice.
04:22All right, injuries for today.
04:24James Thompson, ankle won't practice.
04:26Bosa, calf won't practice.
04:28Juice, knee won't practice.
04:30Seagull, ankle won't practice.
04:31Stout, shoulder won't practice.
04:33Michael Williams, knee limited.
04:35Mike Evans, ribs limited.
04:37Kalen Black, sick, limited.
04:39Okay, so those three guys were limited.
04:41That's what they announced Michael as,
04:43but look, they're letting reporters go to his locker,
04:45and he's saying we'll see on Sunday.
04:47That sounds to me right now like the plan is for him to play.
04:49It sounds like his practice window, which has been open now for,
04:52I think, eight days to the day.
04:54Last Wednesday, it got open, and so, or seven days, eight days, whatever.
04:57You get three weeks, and so if it's not this weekend,
05:00it likely would be next weekend,
05:02and so if he's able to go out there and give it a go,
05:05and even if it is, you know, 20, 25 snaps, whatever,
05:08yeah, it's another depth piece.
05:10I just am going to pause before I start to put too much faith
05:14in how he was drafted, what he was in a nine-game sample,
05:18and he played nine total games.
05:21Oh, was it nine?
05:21Okay.
05:22It was nine.
05:22The Giants game, right, where he got hurt?
05:24That sounds about right.
05:25Yeah, I think it was in New York.
05:27He had one sack and 20 tackles, so, I mean, he was out there,
05:31and he was playing football,
05:32and I think that he was trending toward having a nice rookie year,
05:36but he's not Nick Bosa, he's not Odigizua,
05:38he's another body, and you need bodies,
05:41and if it means that Valdez doesn't get to play,
05:44or Okoronkwo, or somebody's going to be the odd man out,
05:47I just hope that he's able to play
05:49and be able to play at the level that the D-line has played at.
05:52Just my take, I think you're underselling what he achieved last year
05:55in a short stint.
05:57I don't want to call Michael Williams another body.
05:59This is a first-round talent,
06:01and the 49ers' run defense metrics dropped through the floor.
06:06When he got hurt, they were a top-10 run defense
06:09the first half of the year, then he got hurt,
06:11and they became one of the worst run defenses in the league,
06:13and I'm not going to say that's 100% about Mikel,
06:17but I think it was a very, very healthy chunk of it.
06:20You're going up against a run game that is really struggling.
06:24To add Mikel Williams into this is only a good thing
06:27if they can make Seattle one-dimensional.
06:30That's how you pick off Sam Darnold,
06:32and the last two opponents have been able to force a lot of turnovers
06:36against Seattle and made those close games,
06:38including one of them being a loss.
06:40I think this is a huge key.
06:41We're so focused right now on the offense in this matchup
06:45for obvious reasons because they were so stifled
06:48against this defense last year,
06:50but the defensive side of the football is what had a lot to do
06:54with them winning on opening week last year,
06:58and I think that they can have a major imprint on this game.
07:02So as that defensive line starts to get healthier,
07:05Mikel coming back, Nick is probably only one, two weeks away,
07:09so it sounds like, as you start to get these people back.
07:13I don't know.
07:14I just, you know, I think it's a significant thing.
07:17That's just the way I see it.
07:18Yeah, it's a piece, and certainly if he can ever play up
07:21to his first-round grade, and I know he's only had a half a year to do so,
07:24and now if he's getting healthy off the ACL,
07:26then he should have 13 games this year,
07:29and so you get a real healthy sample size to determine,
07:32A, is he an interior guy?
07:34Is he an outside guy?
07:35Is he a hybrid?
07:36Is he good enough to really be an anchor piece in your defense?
07:40We have to wait and find out.
07:41888-957-9570.
07:43And what we threw out there was, like, are you confident?
07:48Like, I wonder how Niner fans are even feeling about this.
07:51I'll start.
07:52No.
07:54Not really.
07:55Wow.
07:56Not really.
07:57And I say that right on the heels of, A,
08:02believing the 49ers are right now the best team in football.
08:06B, feeling like there are a lot of personnel differences
08:10between this year's Niners and this year's Seahawks
08:13versus their counterparts last year.
08:16I am very confident that this is going to be a much closer game,
08:21that this is going to be a good battle.
08:23But if you ask me, do I swagger in like, oh, dude, yeah,
08:27Niners are going to beat the Seahawks this weekend.
08:30I don't.
08:31I just don't.
08:32I don't feel that way.
08:33This is right up there with the top five assignments that a team gets
08:41in an NFL season, going to Seattle and winning a football game.
08:46That is one of the hardest five things you can do in the NFL this year.
08:50And just like Seattle, the Niners are far from full strength.
08:54Do I think they could do it?
08:56Sure.
08:58Am I swashbuckling that they will?
09:00No.
09:00That's not how I feel about this one right now.
09:02I'm not swashbuckling, but I'd feel equally confident as you feel,
09:06I guess, a lack of confidence because I look at where Seattle is
09:09in this moment and the Niners are most vulnerable against the run.
09:14Mike L. Williams, I'll put that aside because, you know,
09:17he could come in and change everything.
09:18But the teams that have given them a little bit of problem so far
09:22through four games are those that can run the ball.
09:24And I don't think that Seattle can run the ball effectively
09:27against this Niner D.
09:29And so then it comes down to, all right, Sam Darnold,
09:32what are you really not great at?
09:34And it's facing pressure.
09:35And Raheem Morris has dialed up pressure this year more than any other
09:38coordinator that I can remember.
09:40You show six, you bring four, you show four, you bring six, you bring five.
09:44Here comes Upton, here comes whomever.
09:47I do think that they're doing so many different things to make quarterbacks
09:50uncomfortable.
09:51And that's where Sam Darnold will make mistakes.
09:53And the other side of that is Seattle loves to bring a lot of pressure.
09:58But your boy, Mr. President, Mr. President of Pakistan, he loves pressure.
10:04Go ahead and blitz me.
10:05So I think the matchups of strength against strength,
10:08they favor the Niners in many ways here.
10:10Let's go to Jaime in San Pablo.
10:13Hey, Jaime, thanks for calling.
10:15What's up?
10:16Hey, guys, how are you doing?
10:18Great.
10:18Good.
10:21So I want to, I want to,
10:23and I feel like this is going to be a 2.0 of that Philly game when,
10:29I don't know if you guys remember that,
10:31NFC Championship game on Purdy, tore his elbow, and, you know,
10:34the Eagles beat us, and the Niners felt like, you know,
10:37they would have been healthy and we would have been fine.
10:39We would have beat that team.
10:40At the end of the following year, we go into Philly, you know,
10:43Debo's all dressed in black and everyone else is,
10:46and we just go in there and just,
10:48I'm not saying that it's going to be the same thing,
10:50but I just feel like Kyle has to have that chip on his shoulder that,
10:55you know, like I got whooped twice last year in Seattle and at home,
11:00and I just feel like he has to be ready for it.
11:02He's going to be prepared.
11:05And Warner and Greenlaw, you know, going back to that 2019 game,
11:09I think they're going to be ready for it,
11:11and I just, I have a feeling it's going to be,
11:14whoever's going to be more aggressive and more tough,
11:19and I just feel like it's going to be us.
11:20Jaime, thanks.
11:22Let's hear what Kyle Shanahan said today when asked if there was extra juice
11:28on this game because of the way things played out last year.
11:32I think playing a divisional game always feels a little bit more,
11:35playing a big rival like the Seahawks always does,
11:37them being the Super Bowl winners, how the last game went,
11:40so everything.
11:44Kind of a drab yes, yes, but I want to, let's speak on that for a second.
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12:02The idea that like, okay, the coach needs to be, you know, rah-rah, fired up.
12:08I have a different take on that.
12:10For me, that's exactly what the coach needs to not be.
12:13I don't think anybody needs to rile up Dre Greenlaw.
12:18The San Francisco 49ers are fully aware of the opponent, the moment,
12:24what happened last year, and who they are as football players,
12:27especially when you're a coach with the style of Kyle Shanahan.
12:31I would much rather Kyle is the same person he always is,
12:36which is focused, calm.
12:39Believe me, I think there's plenty of inner fire there.
12:43But I don't need Kyle suddenly becoming someone else and turning into a rah-rah guy.
12:49I don't think you see a lot of that in the NFL, and there's a reason for it.
12:52It doesn't really work.
12:53You kind of see it for me, and it's kind of my bit.
12:55And my buddy Nick Sirianni as well, but it hasn't gone as well for him, I think.
12:59Yeah, how's it going for everybody this year?
13:01If it wasn't for me and my flight plan, we'd probably be 3-1 right now.
13:04Right, and if Sirianni hadn't played McVay, then McVay would also be 1-3.
13:09I never got a chance to thank him for that one.
13:10Man, that thing was on a platter, silver platter.
13:13Boy, thanks, Nick.
13:14I'll take somebody who's game planning
13:17and putting his players in the best position to succeed
13:20rather than running when something good happens on the sideline.
13:23Right, and it's funny because you're a guy who runs,
13:26but you're watching the game at home.
13:27You're allowed to run, right?
13:29I'm not the coach.
13:29You've got no headset and no laminated play sheet,
13:32but you're down to run when something big happens.
13:34I'm listening to and reading the Kyle Shanahan comments
13:37about Mike McDonald and this matchup,
13:40and so do you need to, like, tell Dre Greenlaw and Fred Warner,
13:44hey, guys, big game.
13:45Can you make sure that you bring the energy?
13:46Of course not.
13:47But at the same time, I think about Shanahan
13:50and that screen call against Denver
13:52where we talked about it with Greg Cosell,
13:55and, you know, Denver is going to dial up a blitz,
13:57and Greg said that Shanahan probably was expecting some pressure.
14:01Therefore, he went with the screen
14:03and turned out it was a zero blitz.
14:05Everybody come on down,
14:06and so it was the perfect call against the perfect defense,
14:09and I think about this matchup
14:10where Mike McDonald and Kyle know each other so well,
14:13so is Kyle going to try to get, you know, too creative?
14:16Is he going to try to see what they do best
14:19and try to counteract it,
14:20or just stick with what you do?
14:21Here's what, and I'm not worried about this,
14:24I just, I do whatever I can
14:26with our tiny little piece of this entire wheel
14:30that we all talk about each week
14:32to prepare Niner fans for the fact
14:34that they're going to lose some plays.
14:36Like, that's, in matchups like this,
14:39like, I noticed it last week,
14:41and that's lesser because Denver's not as good as Seattle,
14:43and Denver was here,
14:45but things have been going so well
14:48that it was as if Brock Purdy
14:50would throw an incompletion,
14:52and the Niner fans, like, what the hell's going on?
14:54This thing's broken, man.
14:56Like, you're not supposed to,
14:58you're not supposed to not get a first down.
15:00We're not supposed to use the punter.
15:02Like, I would expect a turnover in this game.
15:08I think it's, I...
15:09Not from your guy.
15:11Someone, and yeah, maybe him.
15:14Mr. President.
15:15They're allowed...
15:16Shocking.
15:17They're allowed to throw picks.
15:18They are.
15:19They're all allowed to throw picks.
15:21Like, it's okay.
15:23It's okay.
15:24Josh Allen had three turnovers last week.
15:26They won.
15:26It's okay.
15:28But I would anticipate some frustration in this game.
15:32Seattle is that good.
15:34The Niners are not going to just cut right through this thing.
15:37So, then it becomes kind of a...
15:39Like last week, it becomes a battle of who's going to blink,
15:43and who's going to make the big mistake.
15:45And I always think the home team has a little bit of an advantage
15:48when a game gets like that,
15:50because it just, it comes to a crescendo,
15:53and boom, there's the mistake,
15:55and the place goes crazy,
15:56and it starts going downhill.
15:57And that's exactly what the Niners did last week
15:59to win the game.
16:00So, I give Seattle a little bit of an edge on that.
16:03Doesn't mean it's going to play out that way.
16:05But, look, I asked Greg Cosell the question
16:08that I think is the money shot.
16:10If he says...
16:12Because we all go,
16:13Oh, Kyle and Brock, you got to be that dude.
16:15He's like, look,
16:16they got overwhelmed in the trenches.
16:18They just got beat.
16:20Seattle's trenches were really good.
16:21They beat the Niner trenches last year.
16:24All right.
16:24So, what would give us confidence
16:27that this year,
16:29pretty much the same offensive line
16:31will not get overwhelmed
16:33against pretty much the same defensive line?
16:36And the answer is, I don't know.
16:39I don't have that answer.
16:40He didn't have that answer.
16:42I don't know.
16:43And that's why I'm not terribly confident.
16:46Now, things are always different
16:48from one year to the next.
16:49So, maybe they're playing at a higher level.
16:52Maybe they're healthier.
16:53Maybe they figured some things out on film.
16:56Maybe the other guys won't play.
16:57I don't know.
16:58I don't know.
16:58It's a new year.
17:00But, like,
17:01I will have a hard time being confident
17:03until I see this offensive line
17:07create opportunities
17:08for the skilled position players
17:10on this team to move the ball.
17:12Yeah, and you're going to have to have that.
17:13And I'm thinking about the game last year,
17:15divisional round,
17:16where Rashid, Shahid, opening kick, touchdown.
17:19You go 17 yards,
17:20you turn it over on downs,
17:22and then they score again.
17:23You get it back and you fumble.
17:25And it's, okay, it's 14-0
17:27and you're in real trouble on the road.
17:29Kyle actually was asked earlier
17:30about the middle of his offensive line,
17:33which has been so good
17:34against their defensive line
17:36in the middle that is also so good.
17:38And he gave an interesting answer about,
17:39you know,
17:40their guys are so good one-on-one,
17:41but his team's going to have to figure out a way
17:43to not get overwhelmed
17:45because this run game,
17:46all run games, really,
17:48it's about blocking the guys on the D-line
17:50and then getting at least one person,
17:52if not more,
17:53into the second level.
17:54And we've seen it where, you know,
17:55Poonie and Colby,
17:57like, you get a block
17:58and then now I'm out five yards down the line
17:59looking for somebody else.
18:01That's where you get big plays.
18:02Let's go to Jesse and Milbray.
18:04Hi, Jesse.
18:05Thank you for calling.
18:05What's up?
18:07Hey, what's up, fellas?
18:09Just wanted to call in
18:11and talk about the game this Sunday.
18:13Let's go.
18:15Yeah, no,
18:16there is a quiet confidence to this team
18:19that I haven't seen in years.
18:21Whether it's the veterans coming back
18:23or just Purdy being in his bag,
18:27you know,
18:27the offense just seems like
18:29there are a lot more confidence this year,
18:31especially the offensive line.
18:34The way they're playing right now,
18:36I think it's going to come down,
18:38like you were saying earlier,
18:40to the line battle, you know?
18:42It's going to be whether
18:43we can protect Purdy enough
18:46and he can do enough
18:47to actually score some points
18:49or if we're going to get beat up again
18:52and they're just going to manhandle us
18:54running the ball.
18:55But the thing that gives me confidence
18:57is I don't think this...
19:01Their running game is completely different.
19:04They have no running game.
19:06I mean,
19:07I've made the mistake
19:08of drafting Jadarian Price.
19:14Jadarian Price in fantasy.
19:15Yeah, that's been a tough one.
19:17I think Jesse's phone has fallen off.
19:20He's not wrong, though.
19:21He's not wrong.
19:23But I know how it feels
19:25for a Niner fan right now.
19:27It appears and feels
19:30like we're only watching 50% of the game.
19:32Nobody really wants to talk
19:34about Seattle's offense
19:35against the 49ers defense.
19:36For some reason,
19:37that feels uninteresting to people.
19:39This matchup for 49er fans
19:42is simply about
19:43can the 49ers move the ball?
19:46Can you move the ball on Seattle?
19:48Because if you really dive in
19:49to what happened
19:50when Seattle had the ball
19:52against the Niners last year,
19:53outside of things getting
19:55like snowball rolling downhill
19:57a little bit there
19:58in the playoff game,
19:59Seattle didn't have great success
20:00against the Niners either.
20:02That first game was what?
20:0317-13?
20:04Was that the final score?
20:06Yep.
20:06Something like that.
20:07And then obviously
20:08the game at Levi's,
20:0913-3 or something like that.
20:12Like, I mean,
20:12these were really low scoring games.
20:14And that's what the Niners
20:15I think had a chance.
20:16They were like moving in
20:17and that's where I think
20:17McCaffrey fumbled in that game.
20:19And I just,
20:20that team,
20:21Seattle,
20:22that offense
20:23was a lot better
20:25than this Seattle offense.
20:27And this Niners defense
20:29is a little bit more equipped
20:30than last year's Niners defense.
20:33If you're going to find
20:35a silver lining
20:36in this matchup,
20:37to me,
20:37that's it.
20:38We're not talking
20:39about half of the game.
20:40And that half of the game,
20:42to me,
20:43projects better
20:44for the Niners this year
20:45than it did last year.
20:47Significantly.
20:47Well, last year,
20:48if you want to look at
20:48the first two games
20:49as one game,
20:51the Niners won a tough one
20:52with the Jake Tonjes catch
20:54on a ball
20:54that might have been
20:55up for grabs.
20:56And then I think
20:57it was actually
20:57an interception
20:58in week 18
20:59that ultimately derailed
21:01the Niners
21:01as they were trying,
21:02you know,
21:03they were down two scores
21:04and it was a late pick.
21:05McCaffrey dropped it.
21:06That's what I was thinking.
21:06But yeah,
21:07McCaffrey kind of shuttled it
21:08right to the defender.
21:09But even if he,
21:10like,
21:10catches it and they score,
21:12you're still down
21:12by three points
21:13at that point.
21:14So the first two games
21:15were kind of
21:16an even eight-quarter battle
21:18and I'm just looking
21:19at the divisional round game
21:20where,
21:21yes,
21:21opening kick,
21:22touchdown,
21:23and then they ran
21:24that play to use check,
21:25which I don't even want
21:26to say out loud
21:26because Grandi will remember
21:27that one on,
21:28I think,
21:28fourth and one.
21:29They tried to run
21:30like an inside handoff
21:31to use check
21:32and he lost three yards
21:34or it might have been
21:35like a shuttle pass
21:36or whatever it was.
21:37It was the funk
21:39and then they scored
21:4014-0
21:41and that thing
21:41got away from them.
21:42But in that game,
21:44Mark,
21:44I was just looking,
21:45Seattle had 33 carries
21:46for $1.75
21:47and three touchdowns.
21:49That's almost six yards
21:51a tote.
21:51This year's Seattle team
21:53is not even averaging
21:53four yards a carry.
21:55Correct.
21:55Different rushing attack.
21:573.9 yards per carry
21:59and let me add
22:00that Rashid Shahid,
22:01who Greg Cosell said
22:03they're using him
22:04as their Debo,
22:05he has 37 yards
22:07on three carries this year
22:09for 12.3 yards per carry.
22:11Take that away
22:12and you're looking
22:14at a run game.
22:15The running backs
22:16for the Seahawks
22:17are going absolutely nowhere.
22:21Emmanuel Wilson
22:22will be their guy this week.
22:23He's averaging 3.6.
22:25They're not going anywhere.
22:27So,
22:28and by the way,
22:30sort of under-discussed thing
22:32when we were all talking
22:32about the Niner run defense
22:34and concerns about it,
22:36everybody's running up
22:36the middle on them.
22:37How'd Denver look?
22:39Right?
22:41They're fine.
22:41Run defense was really good.
22:43Yep.
22:43It was really good
22:44against Denver.
22:45So,
22:45I do think
22:46they're going to put Seattle
22:47in some passing situations
22:49and if Raheem
22:50dials up the pressure
22:51at the right time
22:52and if Debo
22:54or whoever
22:55can,
22:56you know,
22:57I don't know,
22:58try your best,
22:59stay near JSN,
23:01if you can limit him
23:02from going absolutely crazy,
23:04this is not a dynamic team
23:06on offense right now
23:07at all.
23:08No,
23:08they've got the two weapons.
23:09They have a good tight end
23:10and a good wide receiver.
23:12Their run game is nonexistent
23:13and the one thing
23:14about the Niners
23:14all year,
23:15Mark,
23:15they've had 108 plays
23:17on first down.
23:18They have four negative plays,
23:21either a sack,
23:22I lost yards,
23:23a penalty.
23:24So,
23:24on first down,
23:25they've at least gotten,
23:26you know,
23:26between one and whatever
23:28and so that's been key for them.
23:29They have a good time.