00:00Transitional justice cannot be measured by the same parameters as ordinary justice.
00:05So, that's the starting point.
00:06Of course, someone might think that four is very little,
00:10But I want to clarify the following.
00:12There are more than 3,000 decisions with the effect of a sentence.
00:16TRUE?
00:17Of course, magistrate, but of the cases, of the macro cases, we only have two.
00:21Yes, the major cases, but the others are coming soon.
00:24In other words, even the sentences would have to be longer than 10 years.
00:29That's what's not understood.
00:30In other words, let's say, these are cases that are covered by what the Constitutional law says,
00:3510 to investigate and 5 to issue rulings.
00:38We are already issuing rulings before those 5 days.
00:42So, not even what the legislator foresaw.
00:45The legislator did not foresee that we would issue any rulings in 10 years.
00:48What they predicted was that it would be 5 for the sentences and we are releasing them earlier.
00:52But it must also be understood that these sentences are preceded
00:57from some large-scale investigations.
01:00TRUE?
01:01Macro accusations.
01:02In other words, we're talking about enormous numbers here.
01:04TRUE?
01:06That's why you can't compare them.
01:08I would tell him, look, those 21,000 who are regrouping,
01:12It's as if there were almost 21,000 sentences.
01:15In the ordinary justice system.
01:16Because?
01:17Because the ordinary justice system investigated them on a case-by-case basis.
01:19Then there would have been 21,000 sentences.
01:22Or in the matter of extrajudicial execution, the La Popa battalion.
01:25There are 135.
01:27That equates to 135 sentences.
01:29And waivers of criminal prosecution, which have the effect of sentences,
01:34They have already sheltered 1,050 people.
01:36So I think that, let's say, the starting point is completely different.
01:41Also, for another reason.
01:43And it exists, let's say, as a misconception.
01:47To think that there are only macro-cases, right?
01:50That's part of what we do.
