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00:00Oh, yeah, baby.
00:02Billy Idol.
00:03Get that little lip curl going.
00:05Where is he from?
00:06London.
00:08Okay, good.
00:08Not Detroit?
00:09No.
00:10No.
00:12So, I was on in Edmonton today.
00:15You and I have taken turns being on in Edmonton.
00:18Listen to this.
00:197.20 in the morning, Mountain Time, Edmonton.
00:22All Devin Levi questions.
00:24All Bill's questions.
00:25But what's the music intro?
00:28At 7.20 in the morning, I'm on to talk about tonight's game, right?
00:34And as they're playing me on, so to speak, the song is Super Freak.
00:41Oh, wow.
00:43So, the guy, you know.
00:44Buffalo.
00:45The guy was great.
00:46He was like, you know, welcome to the show.
00:47Here's Mike Shope in Buffalo.
00:49Thanks for being on.
00:49And I was hoping he wouldn't do what I do sometimes.
00:51It was just like, this is the first question.
00:54But he gave me a chance.
00:56He said hello.
00:57And I said, you got to tell me, do you guys just roll like this at 7 in the morning
01:01in
01:01Edmonton on a Thursday, or is that because Rick James is from Buffalo?
01:06And he said.
01:07They didn't know Rick James was from Buffalo.
01:08They did.
01:09All right.
01:10The producer did play the song purposely.
01:13All right.
01:14Because it was a Buffalo guest.
01:16That is some quality production.
01:17And huge respect for that.
01:18Yep.
01:19I mean, I don't know if I'm driving to work at a bank in Edmonton on 7 in the morning.
01:23I want to hear Super Freak.
01:24I don't know what I want to hear, actually.
01:26Maybe some, you know, Dean Martin.
01:27I want to hear me snoring.
01:28That's possible.
01:29That's what I want to hear.
01:30But it was intentional.
01:31Yeah.
01:32So good for those guys.
01:33All right.
01:34Sam Panijatovic with us now on the Western Hotline.
01:37Sam, how are you?
01:38Week two.
01:39I'm looking at the, I just typed in Buffalo playlist.
01:42And these are the songs that came up.
01:44Seven Nation Army, Enter Sandman, Mr. Brightside.
01:47Is that accurate or no?
01:49Well, Mr. Brightside has become a thing.
01:52I don't know.
01:53I mean, like any, I think any football team could claim Seven Nation Army.
01:57Have the Bills played it before a kickoff?
01:59Or do they do it all the time?
02:01Maybe, probably.
02:02It doesn't stand out to me anymore.
02:04That's Detroit, though, isn't it?
02:05Because so many teams do it.
02:06Well, Jack White is from Detroit.
02:07Yeah.
02:08So I don't know, and I have no idea about Enter Sandman other than Mariano Rivera and it being a
02:14great song.
02:16But Mr. Brightside is a thing with this Bills team.
02:20Got it.
02:21See, I would just assume we'd be in the attic, Bulldog, and you'd be spitting Buffalo Soldier by Bob Marley.
02:26Everybody's playing Mr. Brightside now.
02:28I don't know if we were first, but it feels like every college game I turn on, they're playing that
02:33song.
02:33Now, speaking of which, Sam and I were both watching Alabama-Kentucky, and there was a delay for a review
02:40or something or an injury, and there's Mr. Brightside.
02:42Like, it's almost like a bingo card, you know?
02:45Like, that's always, almost always a song you hear at games.
02:48But here it's, you know, like Pittsburgh has...
02:51Renegade.
02:52Renegade.
02:52Sticks, they play.
02:53And, yeah, so it's sort of like that pre-victory song thing that Mr. Brightside has sort of filled that
03:01void here, I guess,
03:02if there even was a void, I don't know.
03:04Sam, what do you think tonight?
03:0554-and-a-half?
03:06This is a pretty high total.
03:08It's a Thursday night game that people seem to think instinctively let skews under,
03:12and a game with this kind of total seems to always go under, apparently, when it's teams on short rest.
03:19So how are you playing it?
03:21I'll probably find myself on the Lions plus 5-and-a-half.
03:25That seems like it's a little rich.
03:27Look-ahead number was 3-and-a-half.
03:29You know, Detroit went to the wire with the Saints, and that's sort of in the back of everybody's memory.
03:35But I like the Bills to win, but I think it's sort of a field goal game, honestly.
03:40I'd probably say like 28, 24-ish, which would put me under the total, I guess.
03:47But I don't really love betting against these elite offenses.
03:51And, you know, DJ Moore looked really good for you guys, huh?
03:53You're welcome.
03:54What, five grabs, 100 yards, and a score?
03:57I mean, that changes a lot of things, I think, for this offense.
04:00I think they were searching for sort of that legit downfield threat.
04:03And by all accounts, he looked apart week one.
04:07Now, I did laugh that I saw 98% of bets at BetMGM are on the DJ Moore over tonight,
04:12so you know what that means.
04:13Oh, boy.
04:14The Bears didn't miss him.
04:15I would probably take five and a half, and I probably will.
04:20I'd kick off.
04:21Yeah.
04:21I said during our first segment, you know, I put together my ridiculous long shot parlay
04:26that, you know, I'll donate my money.
04:29I've got to hear about it.
04:30But I did not.
04:31I usually take a side in the game, and I did not.
04:35I like the Bills to win the game, too, but the five and a half sort of scared me off.
04:40I'm like, I'm going to do something else.
04:42I don't want to fiddle with that because I thought it was a pretty big number for a game
04:47that I think should feature, you know, offenses at least to an extent being able to move the
04:53ball pretty effectively.
04:55I'm just waiting for Mike to give me some guy I've never heard of to score a touchdown.
04:58That's what I'm here for, honestly.
05:00So, I'm sad already.
05:01I looked.
05:02I couldn't find anybody today.
05:05I think this game, if it does, if it doesn't shoot out, then whatever.
05:10Like, you're not going to cash in on that anyway, even with, like, Eli Reardon happening
05:15in a 13-10 game.
05:16That was super fluky.
05:17One target, two yards, touchdown.
05:20I mean, I'm not looking for credit.
05:22This game, maybe, Bulldog, do you have somebody?
05:25Like, I guess maybe if, how about Frank Gore Jr. as an idea?
05:31Like, that would be, that would, but that would probably have to be a game where the
05:36Bills win by 20.
05:38And he's in the game late and he scores.
05:41He plays the whole fourth quarter and busts one from 30 yards out or something.
05:45I mean, Sam, the Bills pass catchers, nobody's a long shot right now.
05:51Moore, Kincaid, then you had, of course, Shakir.
05:55Then Palmer scored.
05:56Palmer could have been, like, for this conversation last week, but that's one catch, right?
06:02So, I don't know.
06:03Do you have anybody that you're hoping we mention?
06:06Because Detroit, you have a couple of running backs, like fullback types, or like a backup
06:11tight end or something like that.
06:12I guess maybe that would be it.
06:13Is Penny Sewell on the, can you get Penny Sewell any time touchdown?
06:17Because they've thrown the ball to him before.
06:21Yes.
06:21Sam, do you want to talk about that?
06:24I don't see him on my board.
06:28To your point, though, these prices kind of stink, guys.
06:31I mean, to have a guy like Shakir at 230, 240, he should be four to one.
06:38You know, this is, the more people bet, like, the more popular sports betting is, the worse
06:44the prices get, because here's what happens.
06:46You get people that just want to parlay, you know, four or five guys together.
06:50And it's just, you know, like, I have a buddy this morning who sent me a slip.
06:54He's got a parlay with six different guys to score a touchdown tonight.
06:58And I'm just like, that's not going to hit.
07:01And he goes, I don't care.
07:03You know?
07:03Like, guys like him ruin everything.
07:06This sounds like me a little bit is what it sounds like.
07:09Sam, here.
07:11Touchdowns, you know what the odds are of, like, actually getting six correct touchdown
07:15scores in the same game?
07:17I think his slip was, it was like 250 to one.
07:20It should be like 10,000 to one, because it ain't going to happen.
07:23But in all seriousness, guys like that ruin it, because the liability on every player
07:32is, like, so much higher because of all the parlays.
07:35I'll give you two plays I might make.
07:37I'm ruining betting, is what Sam just told us.
07:40Maybe.
07:41Check out Cooter Doodle and see what she did.
07:4310-cent bet, but still, it's moving the market.
07:46I'll give you two bets I might make, but I have to look into the second guy first
07:49to see, like, what kind of snaps he gets.
07:52I might throw a dime at Coleman.
07:55A dime.
07:56What am I?
07:57John Gotti?
07:58I might throw a little bit at Coleman, because I think Coleman's above Palmer.
08:05Eight touchdowns the last two years.
08:07I don't think he's dead.
08:08Four to one isn't great, but shootout game, I think I probably will do that.
08:13And then there's Tyler Conklin hanging out at plus 3,000.
08:16I mean, that guy's been around the league a long time.
08:18And if the Lions, like New England's touchdown against Seattle, if the Lions cook up some
08:24sort of two-tight end thing, then I think maybe.
08:26But I don't know for sure.
08:27I don't know if he's, like, active or what they, what anybody's saying.
08:31I haven't looked at that.
08:32Right.
08:33But Conklin at 30-1, I mean, the guy's scored touchdowns in the NFL.
08:37Yep.
08:39So, there you go.
08:40I would want to be careful about Gore until we know if Johnson is playing or not.
08:44Gore isn't even listed.
08:45Because, okay, his way into this game is Johnson.
08:50And I don't, so, you know, that's a little, to me, a wait and see kind of thing.
08:55Sam, I mean, if you're really a gambler, you would take no touchdown is scored in the game
09:01at plus 35,000.
09:02That would be, that would impress me.
09:04The price should be so much higher there, too.
09:07Here's what I'm going to do.
09:08I'm definitely going to make this bet.
09:09Because I heard one of my buddies who likes to bet, like, defensive scores, he was on
09:14a podcast talking about the Bills front against sort of this banged-up Lions-O-Line.
09:19Right now they've got a couple guys that are hurt.
09:21He was talking about the Bills defensive touchdown, which DraftKings has 650, FanDuel has 750.
09:27Hello.
09:28Get the best of it, please.
09:30How about first touchdown, Buffalo defense, 50-1?
09:34Is there any analytics going in that goes, I asked Bulldog this the other day, that goes
09:41into first touchdown before, between, you know, first touchdown as opposed to any time?
09:45Like, is there any analysis that goes into that?
09:48Or is it just sort of, you know, if you're a more of a risk taker, you take the first
09:53touchdown?
09:54No, I think what guys do is that they shoot these big numbers.
09:58My buddy, Noops Christensen, I don't know if you guys follow Noops on social.
10:01So he's, he's hit two of them already.
10:05So it's funny, if you go to his Twitter, he tracks all this stuff.
10:08So he is this year on first touchdown score, he is two for 20, two wins, and he's up 60
10:16units.
10:17He hit somebody at like 80-1.
10:19Yeah.
10:20So like, for example, on Monday night, he went Knicks at 20-1, Mahomes at 25, and then
10:25he played three other guys.
10:26He did.
10:27I think Mahomes had the first touchdown, right?
10:2925-1.
10:30So yeah, I mean, like, I, oh, okay, well, there you go.
10:35But yeah, I mean, he's, he's playing just numbers.
10:38So no, there's not really like this analytical purge.
10:41I just think, you know, guys like that, they, they, they try and find these, because he also
10:46bet Brashard Smith at 50-1.
10:48Now it didn't hit, but I don't know, man.
10:51These guys, like guys like Noops, they're very, very good at this.
10:54Like, he'll hit, he'll hit seven or eight of these in a season and, and make a ton of
10:58money.
10:59It's just not, it's not really my game.
11:00I just tell guys like that.
11:02But I, at the same time, like, I'm not putting in six guys to score a touchdown.
11:06You know what I mean?
11:06I'm betting Conklin.
11:08Okay.
11:09There you go.
11:10It took you like 11 minutes to get there, Mike.
11:12You didn't have one.
11:13Now you got one.
11:13I didn't feel like it was good.
11:15Maybe they play more extra tight ends because their line is down.
11:18He played 10 snaps on offense last week.
11:21They get into that right situation.
11:23Fake to Gibbs, Conklin.
11:24Yeah.
11:24I mean, 600 bucks on 20 bucks.
11:27Okay.
11:27I can see it.
11:28Well, I'm going to do, I'm going to do Buffalo defense to score plus 750.
11:31All right.
11:32Like it.
11:33I have a six leg deal here that doesn't have any touchdowns.
11:39Okay.
11:40No side and no total.
11:43I've got both quarterbacks.
11:45I'm leaning into, it's going to be a game in the thirties.
11:48Okay.
11:49I've got both quarterbacks over 275.
11:52Gibbs over a hundred cook over 90 and Kincaid over 70, more over 80.
12:02And with a boost that, that with a boost, I get to, comes the boost.
12:06I get to 25 bucks to win 6,200.
12:11Let's go.
12:12Let's go.
12:13Uh, Sam, whatever else, uh, week two college or pro what's on your mind?
12:19Well, there's a big rumor, uh, at Ohio.
12:23I know people are dying to hear me talk about Ohio and South Alabama, but, uh, this game
12:28got blasted on Tuesday.
12:30Um, Ohio could be done both quarterbacks.
12:34So quarterback one, Paulus, he's, he's not going to play.
12:38I have that on good accord.
12:38And then the backup also got hurt last week.
12:41So this number went from four and a half.
12:42It's not the seven now painted.
12:45Honestly, like the market doesn't have either guy out yet.
12:48Like they're both questionable.
12:51I don't think the starter's playing and in the backup, if he plays, he's hurt.
12:55So when this stuff becomes actually public, I think this is going to keep climbing.
12:59So they could get eight, eight and a half, nine.
13:01I still think South Alabama minus seven is a really, really good look.
13:06Um, yeah, you missed the move.
13:07I mean, guys clobbered four and a half, five, six, but at seven, I still think it's like
13:12the last straw.
13:12You can still lay some seven there.
13:14And then, uh, sharpest guy I know likes Houston tomorrow night.
13:18He took eight and a half and eight.
13:20That's Houston at Texas tech.
13:23Okay.
13:26NFL NFL, man.
13:27It's crazy.
13:28You know, the bears over is going to be very popular this week, but the market is shoving
13:34it back.
13:35Total open 49 and a half.
13:36Guys, we're down to 48 and 47 and a half market is saying that Brian Flores is going
13:43to give Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson a tougher time than Carolina did.
13:47And also you don't have the mobility without Kyler Murray, you know, Carson Wentz is not
13:51going to be able to roll around the pocket.
13:53So you're seeing some serious sharp money on the under and Minnesota, Chicago famous last
13:57words, bears just scored 59 points, but it is interesting to see that game with all
14:02the tickets on the over.
14:03The total is coming down two points.
14:05The professor and Marianne would give the bears a tougher time than Carolina did though.
14:10Let's be honest.
14:10I mean, just, you know, name any, name any famous couple and they're, they're giving the
14:15bears a tougher time.
14:17Um, yeah, I, I kind of like Minnesota in that game, Sam.
14:21I just have been talking with Matthew Collar for an hour before I got here on purple insider.
14:26And, you know, that can do that to me, but just like, it's a super regression.
14:32The bears are the bears already were, this has been an interesting team to talk about and
14:36we've done a lot of it.
14:37They already were a regression team after last year.
14:40Like their record was inflated based on some of the important metrics, but then they go
14:45out and do that.
14:46Like this, this is when you want to go the other way, dare I say it to Sam out there
14:51in Chicago.
14:52But I mean, what a, what a chance for Minnesota being buried in that seemingly buried in that
14:57game against the Packers to pull it out.
15:00And then maybe if they win in Chicago, that's two and oh, in the division without their starting
15:05quarterback.
15:05That would, that wouldn't be bad.
15:08I don't hate a bet on Minnesota.
15:10They actually came in, they cleaned the five and a half.
15:12So this was like five and a half on the open and now we're down to four and a half.
15:16So definitely some sharp support on the Vikings.
15:20I'll tell you this too.
15:21There's going to be a lot of people this week that bet Carolina.
15:23Carolina is now a two and a half point road favorite at Atlanta.
15:27The Panthers haven't won a game as a favorite since 2021.
15:32Think about that.
15:33Like Oh, and nine, I think in their last nine games is a favorite and people are going to
15:37just fade Atlanta and God bless you.
15:40But Carolina has never made money in this favorite role.
15:44Arizona, Seattle quickly.
15:46Any feel?
15:47I have nothing.
15:48I have nothing there.
15:49You're going to see some support obviously for Arizona off of the week one performance.
15:53I like the Sunday night game, Mike.
15:55I took six and a half with the Colts against the Chiefs.
15:57Oh, interesting.
15:58Okay.
15:59Thank you, Sam, for moving up a day for us to help us out.
16:02We appreciate it.
16:03We'll talk next week.
16:04All right, boys.
16:05Let's get that Bill's defensive touchdown tonight.
16:07Let's go.
16:08Fine.
16:08Now we have to figure out who.
16:15Likeliest Bill's 8-0-3.
16:18Likeliest Bill's defensive player to score.
16:21C.J.
16:21Gardner-Johnson.
16:23Oh, I don't hate that.
16:25C.J.
16:26Gardner-Johnson.
16:30Chubb.
16:33Little tip a screen pass to himself.
16:36Tip drill.
16:36Corral it and then barrel in.
16:38Walker blasts through.
16:40Who's hurt?
16:40One of the tackles is hurt?
16:42The right tackle and the left guard, I believe, are the starters that are missing.
16:45Chubb.
16:46I don't know if I can get individual defensive players.
16:49IDPs, as you would say.
16:50Yeah.
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16:52Don't we say that.
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