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00:00the flying v's originate back to the 50s that was like the the beginning you know this design that
00:05was uh this is it man you know we're beating russia to outer space we're gonna have a guitar
00:10that looks like that feels you know ready to take off the flying v
00:15rock metal prog and everything in between welcome to this episode of talk and rock with meltdown
00:22don't forget to follow the audio only talking rock podcast on all podcast platforms and now
00:27it's time for today's conversation here's meltdown hey sean good to make your acquaintance how's
00:33things going with you meltdown good to see you man everything's good excellent yeah you too so the
00:39book is out uh battle axes a hard rock and history of pointy guitars and this is um this is
00:46yeah there
00:46it is right there perfect but before we get in the book let's hear a little bit of a history
00:52about what you've done because uh from what i understand you've played in every canadian band
00:57possible except for the one i'm seeing tonight called rush but every band other than rush
01:00so yeah you know what i've been very very lucky i you know i my first concert i ever saw
01:06was
01:07helix and honeymoon suite in north bay ontario and i i've had a chance to play with both those bands
01:12so
01:13i mean i've been i've been a lucky guy and you know currently playing with lee aaron i work with
01:17coney hatch i've been with alan fruit from glass tiger uh rough trade uh i got to work a little
01:23with
01:24harlequin you know i've been very very fortunate in that way you know to get to play with some great
01:28canadian artists and musicians yeah when you're a canadian artist i've asked i've asked bands about
01:33this before from canada and from other parts of the world but um how important is it for you to
01:37try to
01:38break and in america it's kind of funny because like a band like tragically hip for example it's like
01:43they never broke here in america but man they were beloved in canada yeah you know of course
01:50you know that america you know the population so vast such a great love of rock and roll that
01:55that's you know for many people that's the dream right but uh sometimes that's not the reality you
02:01know and that has to do with everything from record company politics to just the amount of
02:06artists trying to break through in that scene and in the states and all sorts of factors but you
02:11know i with my own band crash kelly we had an american record deal i got the tour across the
02:16country didn't didn't quite crack it but but sure had a good time trying and still have lots of
02:21friends from from uh you know those days yeah when when was that band around i vaguely remember that
02:26band yeah we we were really kind of going around 2003 the first record came out active till about
02:332010 maybe you know and then after that i got a gig touring with nelly furtado and uh that kind
02:41of
02:41you know i realized maybe playing guitar in someone else's band is gonna make me more money than
02:45trying to make it but i i loved having my own band and and trying you know and and and
02:52lots of
02:53good memories and yeah we toured the states with alice cooper and backyard babies a bunch of bands
02:58had a great time yeah that's great and so you so i see you've got a bunch of guitars behind
03:02you so
03:03how many pointy guitars do you have behind you yeah how many pointy let's take a look here i'll move
03:07out of the way here i've got a couple i've got you know this is really kind of the uh
03:12this is
03:13pointy as it gets yeah this is my signature model godfrey uh exquire sk but i i've got a bunch
03:21of
03:21actually it's funny i just broke out this uh hold on make sure the pointy guitar the only problem with
03:26the pointy guitar is it doesn't want to sit in the stand sometimes okay you know more about that than
03:31i
03:32would say that yeah man but but check this thing out this is obscene like ow this is a guy
03:39out of
03:39hamilton ontario havoc guitars i just saw him on like this is the kind of thing i search for right
03:45like i mean this literally could poke your eye out so what do you mean you search for them are
03:51you are
03:51you buying up guitars like this if you see them oh yeah man i'm a hunter you know and and
03:56and where
03:57some people you know are really specific i just look for things that kind of excite me and and you
04:02know bring up that that enthusiasm i felt as a kid flipping through a guitar player magazine or
04:07guitar for the practicing musician and you know wanting to have something that looked the way that
04:12music sounded to me the great hard rock of the 70s and 80s yeah i was gonna say so what
04:16what was that
04:17turning point for you i've talked to uh you know it's funny that the people i talked to as far
04:22as the
04:22eras are concerned uh you know if if you're if you're a rock musician like like let's say over
04:2755 or over 50 like the beatles were your thing and then as and then kiss comes into it for
04:32some people
04:33that a little bit younger you know and then any van halen stuff like that so what was your gateway
04:38twisted effing sister okay i am an smf yeah uh sick oh you know what yeah that was it when
04:48i saw
04:49the we're not gonna take a video i was like these guys look like linebackers but maybe out of the
04:56rocky horror picture show but also out of a looney tunes cartoon i want whatever this is i don't know
05:02what it is but i want to be it and that was the gateway and then years later i i
05:07got to work with
05:09closely with d snider you know amazing full full circle yeah i know i noticed you worked with d so
05:15when was this that you worked with dean and what capacity were you working with him that was in
05:192015 and it was in his musical d snider's rock and roll christmas tale a metal christmas musical
05:27that ran in toronto and it's so funny uh at the time i was playing with an american band called
05:33four
05:33by fate which was the members of fraley's comment essentially without ace fraley and we had a manager
05:39danny stanton who was twisted sisters agent so when i saw d was coming i didn't know what the rock
05:45and
05:45roll christmas tale thing was i said danny think you can get me an audition playing in the pit you
05:49know i know all those dudes he goes oh yeah man let me see what i can do and next
05:54thing you know he
05:54goes okay dude good news we'll send you the script and i go script what do you mean you score
06:00no the
06:01script with the words that you will have to say as an actor so i had to learn how to
06:08act and dance
06:10for this musical with d snyder but for me the humiliation that went into all that stuff like
06:16learning how to do that was worth it just for the chance to audition and play guitar for the guy
06:22and
06:22sing a sing we're not going to take with him fortunately it all worked out i got the gig and
06:27it was one of the best professional experiences of my life and so then you you meet dean you tell
06:31him
06:32your story about how you got into rock and roll right i i did i did and you know i
06:37i wanted to wait a
06:38little bit because you know i wanted to try and be professional but it didn't take long before i was
06:42spilling my guts and and you know he was he's so receptive such a great guy and he's become you
06:48know
06:48someone i really i really look up to as a mentor and as a friend and uh you know we
06:53worked hard
06:53putting a musical together is no joke man it is hard hard work and uh you know d wrote a
07:01really
07:01great musical taylor dane was in it you know it was one of the best times of my life and
07:07i'm and i'm
07:07so grateful for it so yeah i it was nice to get to tell d what he meant to me
07:12and actually i gotta
07:12show you something i think i got here i gotta show you this man put my pointy guitar down i
07:20was on the
07:20road i played with lee aaron a singer and uh i was on the road recently in winnipeg and i
07:26found this
07:28but dude i had this pin when i was a kid yeah so i found this but i look at
07:33i got ian hunter and
07:35mick ronson two of my favorite rock and roll heroes and there's there's another one so i sent
07:40that to d i said look d i got the holy trinity of rock inspiration there hunter ronson snyder
07:46i love that yeah i became friends with d uh you know now i i would i would consider myself
07:51an
07:52acquaintance of d but i i actually kind of knew him a little bit during his widow mako
07:55widow maker days what a great band al petrelli on guitar yeah that's right yeah how did you know
08:02how did you know him from that he just he just came through buffalo a few times when i was
08:06there
08:06and um we just hit it off and i actually did a great interview with him about about an hour
08:11long
08:11in front of an audience in 2018 that was really good uh but getting back to your book itself oh
08:17by
08:17the way are you gonna go see uh the twisted sister i know they got some canadian gigs coming up
08:21i know
08:21one right here in windsor yeah if i if i can make it i think they're playing niagara falls too
08:25okay
08:26just windsor maybe niagara falls i saw that i will definitely try i i interviewed jj for my book
08:31so i i'd love to go and give him a copy in person and uh and you know sebastian bach
08:37man i think if
08:38you're gonna i don't think anyone can replace d snyder but i will say this sebastian bach's a true fan
08:43he understands the assignment and i think he will bring everything he's got you know sebastian's a bit
08:50of a crazy dude but i'll tell you he uh he is an authentic music lover yes and i think
08:57i i watched
08:58some footage of them rehearsing and you know i think it's gonna be fun i think it's gonna be
09:02combustible and exciting and a lot of fun yeah i saw him here in march in detroit and they did
09:07uh
09:07we're not gonna take it or i want to rock i can't remember which one but it was like
09:10yeah he's super fired up about this gig for sure and he just mentioned how you interviewed guys for
09:15your book you got a lot of guys i just talked with uh phil collin the other day
09:18and yeah great guy so so tell me about some of the guys you talked with well you know like
09:24there
09:24was uh bruce kulik from kiss who gave me a wonderful insight into the whole pointy guitar era of kiss
09:31like it's funny they went post makeup but they didn't really get any less flashy they came up with
09:37some of the wildest guitars and played you know all sorts of bc rich and hamer guitars and esp guitars
09:44uh i talked to carlos cavazzo from choir riot that was a big one because the book's called battle
09:50axes and really the inspiration for the title was the song battle axe which before i ever heard
09:56eruption i heard battle axe the instrumental track off the metal health record so that was and i was
10:02like what kind of song doesn't have words i'm confused what is this why am i scared of this but
10:08why
10:09do i keep playing it again like it was this kind of crazy thing that freaked me out and i
10:13loved it
10:14so talk to carlos uh talk to uh guys like marty friedman from mega death um man bruce bouillet from
10:23racer x which was really cool because you know racer x a along with paul gilbert you know bruce was
10:29part
10:29of the guitar team and they represent this whole really cool indie scene that was happening back then
10:35shrapnel records where this highly technically proficient music was being recorded on a
10:40shoestring budget so getting the behind the scenes on that was really neat my one of my favorite
10:46interviews was a guy named doug marks who actually i knew from ads in guitar magazines the metal method
10:52where you could send away for a cassette and get a whole course on how to play guitar i couldn't
10:59figure
10:59that out when i was a kid in a small town in northern ontario i didn't know the math on
11:03ordering and
11:03money orders and stuff my parents weren't too willing to help me with it but uh i was fascinated
11:09by this guy who was like you should be on the stage instead of in the audience i was like
11:15you should i
11:15should i should i remember that guy yeah and that was as influential to me as anything right so
11:22you know along with that i interviewed some um guitar makers uh company founders like dean
11:28zelinski from dean guitars joel danzig from hamer guitars joel lato from leo guitars like you know a
11:34lot of different kind of people involved in different facets in the guitar industry yeah
11:39obviously you just mentioned uh dean guitars i mean the first thing that pops in my head right
11:42away is a dime bag daryl and then you talked about marty freeman i mean there's a band that was
11:47built for pointy guitars megadeth would probably be up there near the top somewhere
11:51absolutely mustang you know he started off with the bc riches you know early adapter there you know
11:57and then he's had a number of like you said dean guitars jackson guitars um you know gibson he's now
12:04he's now got signature models with gibson and um and marty marty uh it was funny talking to him
12:11he's kind of like me not in terms of guitar playing he's miles ahead of me in that but i
12:17mean the fact
12:17that he doesn't he's not really concerned i can't really remember the minutia when people say oh what
12:22neck profile do you have or what's what's uh you know what's your your bridge height and uh you know
12:27profile i don't know i just grab a guitar and i adapt to it he's the same way i found
12:33out and i asked
12:34him about these carvin guitars that he used to play when he was in his band cacophony with jason
12:39the carvin v220 he goes yeah man they just kind of took us out for dinner and lunches and we
12:45thought
12:45that was cool and free guitars were cool so that's why i played those okay but then of course
12:52he went on to jackson and you know worked more closely with them on on number of signature models
12:57and yeah yeah i know ellison uh he used a lot of jackson basses but it's so funny because uh
13:03what
13:03you said is probably the story of a lot of guitar players they gave us free guitar so we used
13:07them
13:08early on yeah you know what uh and and why not right like i mean here's someone who's validating
13:15your existence as a player and you know there's there's an emotional thing that comes i've been
13:20really lucky to have some guitar endorsements over the years and uh yeah you feel validated when
13:26somebody you know feels that you could represent them in a positive way it's pretty nice feeling
13:31now one of my friends back home just posted that she's about to uh write a book about her and
13:35her
13:36husband's um uh life story and her husband lost a uh an arm and leg in in uh in iraq
13:41uh back in the day
13:42uh but anyways um she was like and i just don't know how to start so how did how did
13:47you start i
13:47told her i said you got to start with a word then just keep going i mean how do you
13:51start a book like
13:52this you know what there's a there's so many different ways to start a book and you're you're
13:57right to an extent sometimes you just gotta write don't edit yourself until you've put something out
14:02there right so just let the ideas flow in that case where it's something you're writing about a life
14:06story it's really just kind of starting someplace and letting the ideas flow for a research a book
14:13like this there's a fair amount of research that was involved so i i just kind of built
14:17an arc i i you know all stories have a beginning a middle and an end and i was just
14:23trying to figure
14:23out what's my line of continuity so i kind of started uh by by figuring out what what's the point
14:29of a pointy guitar why do people play these things they don't look like traditional guitars you know
14:34so i asked a few people about that from there i started with uh gibson guitars in the 50s because
14:40those modernistic designs the flying v the explorer the modern the futura these were kind of the um
14:48their response to fender stratocaster which was pretty modern design and they wanted and was
14:55becoming popular unfortunately those gibson models were too far ahead of the game and were flops so the
15:02flying v and the explorer no one wanted them they were flops and it wasn't until later on in the
15:0860s when people started finding them in pawn shops guys like lonnie mack and guys like uh dave davies from
15:13the kinks that they're going these guitars sound great and they look kind of cool so wait a second
15:18hold on a second so the flying v's originate back to the 50s yeah man 58 i didn't know that
15:22okay
15:23yeah that was that was like the the beginning you know this design that was uh this is it man
15:29you
15:29know we're beating russia to outer space we're gonna we're gonna have a guitar that looks like
15:34that feels you know ready to take off the flying v and and you know just radical design you can
15:41see
15:41that design element in the cars of the time in in the kitchenware of the time you know you see
15:47players that look like they could be on the jetsons you know you know you get stuff like this with
15:51angles and shapes and really you know this guitar of less is it has 50s design elements like a fender
15:59telecaster you know i can see george and jane is uh wife you know using this in the jetsons you
16:06know
16:06yeah for for whatever purposes yeah so so you you kind of touched on a little bit so why did
16:13guys start
16:13playing pointy guitars just because it was something different it sounded better just just the way it
16:18looked at a probably a myriad of reasons huh well yeah you got it and and a big part was
16:24a guy like
16:24billy gibbons for example he's in texas just starting out he was looking for it was the pickups
16:30that the humbucking pickups that were in these guitars that seth lover had designed he wanted that
16:36sound and unless paul was more expensive but he said i hear you can get that humbucking sound with these
16:42throwaway guitars that no one wanted so he started looking for those um for other people it was just like
16:47they were affordable like it was a high quality instrument that sure looked a little weird but it
16:51gave you that gibson sound now what happened with gibson and fender was they were both eventually
16:57taken over by corporations for gibson it was taken over by the norland corporation for fender by cbs
17:03and we and what i found out in this book talking with every company is once you get away from
17:08the
17:08initial inspiration of the custom shop hand built and you start moving into corporate you know
17:14cost cutting measures mass productions inevitably you get a dip in quality or perceived quality anyway
17:22you're trying to make you know sell more for less you're gonna you're gonna have to cut corners
17:26someplace guys like dean zelinski at dean guitars and joel dancing and paul hamer at hamer they said man
17:33we want to recapture the glory days of those great instruments and now we're into the 70s where
17:40people are playing in arenas bands like kiss are putting on spectacles but they're still playing
17:45guitars from like les pauls i look like they look like they come from the 50s they wanted to have
17:50these futuristic guitars on stage so it kind of matched the uh more intensified visuals that were
17:56happening and of course by the time you get into the mtv era it's the perfect you know perfect storm
18:04perfect combustible chemical reaction of visual with musical yeah that's uh that's interesting
18:10you say that so how many guys did you reach out to and what percentage would you say uh did
18:16you get
18:16a chance to talk to for your book i reached out to a hundred for sure i got about half
18:23of them
18:23so there were some people i would have loved to have talked with and and some people who are willing
18:28to talk but they're on tour like rick nielsen from cheap tricks said he'd do it but you know you're
18:32trying to catch these people you know they're nomads right you know hard to hard to catch up uh i
18:39would
18:39love to talk to kk downing from judas priest yeah a lot of people i would i would have liked
18:44to talk to
18:45but fortunately there are tons of periodicals out there and i've got a pretty rich archive of of old
18:52magazines and i just kind of dug deep into that that old magazine world for the people i didn't talk
18:58to
18:58and then talking to people who were adjacent to those people and that was you know an interesting
19:05perspective like when you're talking to someone like joel dancing at hamer he remembers specifically
19:10the deaf leopard guys coming into the factory as young kids being blown away that someone wants to
19:17make them an instrument you know you you feel that enthusiasm through them and of course i did talk to
19:22sav and phil for the book and they kind of reiterated that you know yeah i think uh rick savage
19:28is one
19:28the only guys i've never met from uh from deaf leopard uh one of the guys and i can't remember
19:33who it was but one of the guys name dropped one of my childhood heroes that has nothing to do
19:37with
19:37with with pointing guitars but he name dropped gilbert perot oh yeah that was probably me dropping
19:43that because i was a favorite fan my favorite hockey player of all time is andre savard okay because andre
19:51savard is from my original hometown of tamiskaming quebec and my dad was his coach my dad was
19:58and so when i was a kid there were two nhl stars from from tamiskaming quebec uh three actually
20:05richard lemieux from the vancouver canucks gaston gingra from the montreal canadians they with the
20:11high-rising slapper of death and andre savard and andre was my hero i was a sabres fanatic
20:19so not the easiest thing to be in in small town ontario you know the only thing worse is a
20:26quebec
20:27nordiques fan which i became when andre got traded but i digress anyway joe perot is in there yeah he's
20:33like you know i i likened him to like uh luke's uh skywalker with a lightsaber well gilbert perot with
20:40uh you know a sherbrooke hockey stick or whatever he's playing yeah gaston uh if i'm not mistaken i i
20:46think
20:46i've met him somewhere before i can't remember i don't know if he was racing horses or something
20:50does that sound could be he dated my sister for a while i know that i know my sister out
20:56on a date
20:58and uh and you know what was cool about that i gotta tell you i'm digressing here but
21:03andre used to host a golf tournament in tamiskaming so not only would it be andre and gaston
21:09serge savard denieron jacques lemaire gila fleur i would go out and get to hang out with these guys
21:17like on a golf course you know yeah yeah for those people that don't know they're listening it's like
21:22yeah that that is mind-blowing and uh those are all like legendary canadian uh hockey players
21:27montreal canadians yeah man like yeah like pretty pretty exciting for for a kid you know and and this
21:34is remember this is before the internet or anything you don't think there's a chance in hell you're
21:39going to meet anybody you know you're just used to looking at trees and forest and bushing tamiskaming
21:44and the mill but all of a sudden you're surrounded by the elite of of the hockey world yeah that's
21:50great well getting back to the book here because i you you could take me down a path of hockey
21:55and we
21:56would not stop talking sounds like it yeah i just got a text on the way here from jason woolley
22:00remember him he's going to see rush tonight too he's like oh amazing yeah uh but anyways uh yeah
22:06so you you got to probably interview some of your some of your rock heroes for this book i'd imagine
22:11too right oh yeah man like jj getting to talk to jj french i don't know if you've ever talked
22:16to jj
22:17french he's good at talking and that's lots of information and but man what a thrill what a
22:23fiercely intelligent guy uh you know total uh total business mind but you know
22:31that's everything to me when i just that memory of him you know yellow and black with that guild
22:38x79 hold on a second sure i got a guild x79 here
22:46like that's the twist it's that's gumby on acid right there yeah that's right you know what i'm
22:51saying yeah the only thing i have to get it i have to get it painted yellow and black with
22:56yellow and
22:56black stripes yeah and speaking of that you had some of the striper guys you talked to as well
23:00is that correct yeah man i had a great sorry get back in the frame oh you're fine you're good
23:05i had a great chat with michael sweet from striper yeah uh and man you know there's a guy everyone
23:13knows he's a great singer but people don't realize that's really him doing the majority of guitar solos
23:20and things on those records right and he has such a distinguishable uh sound a very unique sound and
23:27he took uh the time and was very gracious with kind of diving deep into how he got that sound
23:33and
23:33really fascinating and generous you know some people were really secretive about that kind of
23:38stuff he laid it all out you know he was kind of like this is what i do and yeah
23:42very cool and
23:43you know striper was a band that could fly in my roman catholic household you know i could i could
23:48i could you know i my mom was i was a was a record smasher uh in the days of
23:54the pmrc you know she'd
23:55pick up a copy of chatelaine magazine read an article and say oh we got to destroy that your mom
24:02did that
24:03huh oh yeah it was it was a it was a thing but to be fair to my mom she's
24:07she's a great supporter
24:08you know she she would make i i could argue sometimes like we would have debates about it
24:13and if i could prove that i wasn't getting my mind wasn't getting warped too badly
24:17we would make compromises i remember i had uh the song portfolio for shout at the devil
24:23and we ended up just blacking out the lyrics that were considered offensive and when i look back on it
24:28they were pretty offensive she might have had a point i've got kids now that's great yeah um yeah my
24:36mom didn't do yeah my mom actually bought me um van halen's 1984 the only record she ever bought
24:41me i'm not really sure even why she did i think she had a few extra bucks laying around uh
24:45but
24:45looking back on it um with the pointy guitars um do you think it was really just something that kind
24:51of that kind of took hold in the rock and the metal world and and and really no no place
24:56else or
24:57was was there country guys using pointy guitar i guess i guess there were i you know i i didn't
25:02really
25:02dive into it too much in the book but when i think about it there were certainly new wave players
25:07who
25:07were using it certainly fit a new wave aesthetic um i think it was helpful for bands like a band
25:12like
25:1338 special or uh or the van zant brothers to maybe try to modernize a little bit by playing guitars
25:21that
25:21were i think guild was involved with the van zant's and 38 special to a degree where maybe that was
25:26a way
25:27a quick way you could have a makeover you know what i mean pick up a pointy guitar all of
25:31a sudden
25:31you know and then there are people like tom petty you know that famous logo tom petty logo from the
25:38first record where he's got the flying v going through the heart you know but for some people
25:42the flying v was a classic already it wasn't an odd shaped guitar it just felt like a classic
25:47instrument you know because guys like hendrix played them and you know yeah right away when i
25:53think of flying v i like i said i think of dime and uh think of um you know dave
25:56mustaine for sure
25:57yeah and a lot of those metal guys what about the uh guitars like what's the one
26:01guy i can't remember his name where he plays the guitar he's got the two necks oh michelangelo
26:06barrio yeah yeah yeah yeah you talk to a guy like that i didn't talk to him there but i
26:10met
26:11him i did a nam jam with him and and what is super sweet guy you know so is that
26:16kind of
26:17unassuming dude you know like and then he goes up there and it's just like
26:22and i remember he was in a band called nitro yeah and along with this guy doing this you had
26:29a singer
26:29and his claim to fame was he could break glass that's right jim gillette and he had the jim
26:35gillette vocal method which was actually part of the metal method and you too can learn how to break
26:39glass and i'm going like yeah like there was a time in the 80s when that was a palpable musical
26:46goal i'm
26:47going to shatter glass with my voice that is hysterical i forgot all about that you're right
26:52yeah nitro that was something and the hair was huge the songs were like over the top like i don't
26:58know
26:58if you could hear a melody in there but god love them they sure played fast everything was like that
27:02i remember interviewing uh joe badamasu one time and i asked him i go how many guitars do you own
27:06he told me 400 so how many do you how many do you own and what is like your prized
27:10axe
27:12i've got about 65 i figure and you know what i i love them and i work with a lot
27:19of different
27:20companies i work with a great company out of montreal called godin guitars i play a lot of
27:24their acoustic guitars i play some of their electrics i work with charvell jackson and do clinics for
27:28them uh and then i've got like you know these these custom god-free guitars let me show you one
27:34i got one here that i think you might get a kick out of all right i'm in the middle
27:39of uh getting
27:40ready for uh tours i'm finishing a soundtrack down here so it's just wall-to-wall chaos down
27:46in my that's okay that's the way it goes but uh yeah let me show you this guy because this
27:52one kind
27:53of there's a funny story this is called the mini voltes flying v by godfrey and it's it's a killer
28:04guitar but this came about alcohol was involved on my part i was watching the judas priest turbo tour
28:14it was called fuel for life tour and i'm into my red wine and having a nice night and i
28:21call up less
28:22less i need you to make me a guitar that looks like kk downing's mini flying v and it's got
28:28to have this
28:29and a kaylor tremolo i'm on it okay and of course i wake up and forget i've done this and
28:37i've already
28:38sent the deposit and everything i have no recollection why is my money on my god oh let's say let's
28:43say i'm
28:44on it and he sent me the design so this guitar came and it's funny the first time i ever
28:48played that
28:50angular pointy guitar was with the classical group the tenors like this world famous vocal group but they
28:57were doing a version of bohemian rafsi and the music director was a buddy of mine i had done the
29:02rock of ages musical he goes do you have any of those weird pointy guitars i said oh brother you
29:07got the right guy for the gig for the first band i play this pointy guitar with is the tenors
29:12and
29:12the rest of the night though on the pointy guitar i'm playing like classical tunes and jazz tunes and
29:18everything you know it was like you can't make this stuff up i love it yeah i guess it just
29:22matters
29:23what comes out of it not what it looks like right yeah and and you know what man all these
29:27guitars sound great that's the thing you know they every every guitar has got a voice right
29:32and no two les pauls sound the same no two stratocasters sound the same you know so for me
29:37that's part of it too i'm inspired by the looks but they but every guitar in my collection has to
29:42be functional that's i they have to go to work yeah if they're not going to work they get donated
29:46to
29:46some kid or something well i'll tell you what sean it's great to touch base you and uh for those
29:51who don't know i was supposed to talk to you on tuesday and completely just kind of
29:54mind farted but uh anyways tell everybody where you're where they can get your book and you know
29:58where they can order i suppose amazon and everything has it right you can get it anywhere you get your
30:03books yeah amazon uh all retailers uh my publisher ecw and simon and schuster in the states do a
30:10wonderful job getting it out there so you can get it anywhere and you can follow me for if you
30:14if
30:15i'm find one i'll figure it out for you i'm at sean kelly guitar on instagram facebook soon sean
30:21kelly guitar.com is going to be launched but uh you can find me on my social media s-e
30:26-a-n-k-e-l-l-y
30:28good irish boy there you go well sean we can talk guitars and hockey all afternoon long but i really
30:34appreciate what you rush i gotta go see rush later on that's right yeah i forgot all about that so
30:39yeah good canadian band well thanks so much for your time dude appreciate good luck with the books
30:43thanks thank you man and i appreciate you taking the time great chatting with you brother check
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