00:00Now, there is a trail of evidence and it's linked all throughout
00:04since the demolition ordered by Aurangzeb in 1670
00:09all the way down to date about the ownership of that land, Krishnalala Virajman.
00:16But you've heard the legal position politically.
00:19Has the Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath sounded the pole bugle
00:22on Sri Krishna Janmarshami saying his government has faith in Sri Krishna,
00:27Sri Ram, Baba Vishwanath and Maa Vindhavasani.
00:31Those who have faith in Babar and Aurangzeb will not respect Hindu Aastha,
00:37says the Chief Minister of Uttar Pradesh.
00:39So let me now throw it open for a wider discussion.
00:41Let me bring in Moulana Sajid Rashidi into this conversation,
00:45Anila Singh of the BJP, Anurag Bhadori of the Samajwadi Party
00:48and Anila Singh, if you look at election data, madam,
00:522014 BJP had won 24 seats in Western Uttar Pradesh in 2019
00:57it came down to 19 and in 2024 it had shrunk to just 13.
01:04Is this statement of the Chief Minister just ahead of UP elections
01:08an attempt to regain lost ground?
01:13My Ram Ram to all and I wish you, my co-panelists and your viewers,
01:19a very happy Janmarshami.
01:22Gaurav, the issue of Sri Krishna Janambhumi is not an ordinary land dispute
01:27but a matter of faith, identity and a resolve of liberation,
01:33the humiliation imposed by historical invaders for 1.4 billion Indians.
01:40I will include my Muslim brothers and sisters also into it
01:43because, you know, their DNA is our only, Sanatani Hindu.
01:49But if you want to exclude Muslims from it, more than welcome.
01:55But just as we reclaim the Grand Temple of Lord Sri Ram
01:59within constitutional and legal bounds,
02:02no force can stop the truth from emerging at the birthplace of Kana.
02:06We have got all the rights.
02:08All the Sanatani Hindu, they have got all the rights to claim it.
02:11Nobody can stop them.
02:13Regardless of how many hurdles the opposition creates
02:16for vote bank appeasement,
02:17the Bharati Jantabadi maintains an unicurical stance
02:21and we stand steadfast with the constitution.
02:24Fair enough.
02:25So you insist, you absolutely insist that this is not politics,
02:29this is Sanatana Asta.
02:31Moulana Sajid Rashidi,
02:33क्या आप अनिला सिंग से इतिफाक रखते हैं
02:36कि वो कहती हैं कि जो
02:38इस्लामिक आकरांताओं ने,
02:40उनके वंशजों ने अत्याचार किये
02:42भारत के मूल निवासियों पर
02:44वो सभी के उपर एक कलंक है
02:46चाहे वो भारत के हिंदू हो और मुस्लिम हो
02:48और इसलिए अगर ये
02:50दिव्य भव्य स्री कृष्ण मंदिर बनेगा
02:53जनभूमी मतुरा में
02:54जिस तरह से आयोध्या में बना
02:56तो ये बहुत अच्छा कदम होगा
02:59आप उत्तर प्रदेश के मुख्यमंत्री
03:01के बयान को किस रूप में दिखते हैं
03:04देखें मुख्यमंत्री जी ने जो कहा है
03:07कि ना कर्फ्यू है
03:08ना दंगा है
03:09सब चंगा ही चंगा है
03:12आदी बात तो इसमें सही है और आदी बात गलत है
03:16ना कर्फ्यू है
03:17ndangga hai ye baat toh sahih hai
03:19lekin sab changa hai ye baat sahih
03:21nahi hai
03:22ek samvidhanik pad par baithe huye kisi bhi
03:25ádmi ko
03:26court se pahle fayasla suna dhena
03:28kya hum yehaan divye aur bhuwye mandir
03:30banayi nghe
03:31aur banna chahiyye
03:33aap khud batayin imanadari se patrkar honne
03:36ke nate kya ye samvidhanik hai
03:39ye court ki bhi
03:40ammanna hai
03:41aur ye haamare samvidhan ki bhi ammanna hai
03:44is tarha ka biyan
03:46samvidhanik pad par baithe huye loggon ko
03:48nahi dhe na chahiye
03:49douseri baat
03:49abhi maamla court mein hai
03:51ji
03:52or court mein aapne dekha hooga
03:54bhabari masjid ka
03:54jab fayasla aya tha
03:56toh semse pahle court ne ye kaha tha
03:58kye jhoot jho phelaya gaya tha
04:00kye mandir toad ke masjid beni hai
04:01court ne saaf kaha
04:03kye hume aysa koi saboot nahi mila
04:05jis se pata chalhe
04:06kye mandir toad ke masjid beni ho
04:09اور court ne ye bhi kaha
04:10kye 1949 muretiaan galat rakhi gai
04:12court ne ye bhi kaha
04:14kye 1992 muree bhabari masjid ko illegal
04:16طریقے سے tođa gaya
04:17اور court ne ye bhi kaha
04:19kye jho log isme shamil thae
04:20unke khilaaf karawai honi chahiye
04:21to iske baad bhi kya
04:231991 ka palaces worship act
04:26اور mohan bhagwet ka wo biyan
04:28kye bhabari masjid ka jho
04:30maamla tha wo slat gya
04:31ab her masjid ke nyeche
04:32mandir kye u ڈھونna
04:33kya ye log abhi ڈھٹائi ke sath
04:36be hayaii ke sath
04:37be sharmii ke sath
04:38masjidon me mandir ڈھوننے
04:41kyanun ki kyanun ki koi inke
04:43anndar koi kisi tarah ka rahimukaram
04:45nahi hai
04:461991 ka
04:47anurag bhadoriya ka pahla
04:48pahla response leloo
04:50phera apke paas
04:51waapas nautun gaha
04:52court se bade ho gayi
04:55thicc
04:56thicc
04:57anurag bhadoriya
04:58uttar pradish ke mukhi
04:59mandiri yogi
05:00aditnaat ka
05:00kye na hai
05:01ki jinki
05:01aasthah
05:02babar
05:02aur aurangzeb
05:03me hai
05:03woh hindu
05:04aasthah
05:05kya
05:05s'mjhen
05:06ghe
05:07aap
05:08kis rup
05:09me uttar pradish
05:09ke mukhi
05:09mandiri ka
05:10iso biyan
05:10ko
05:10dhek te
05:13dhekhe
05:13mujhe
05:13lagta
05:14hai
05:14ki
05:14sbse
05:14pahalye
05:15to
05:15eek
05:16mujhe
05:17ڈilli
05:17ki
05:18bjp
05:18اور
05:20lakhanu
05:20ki bjp
05:21me
05:21thoda
05:21sa
05:21kuch
05:22hame
05:22gharwan
05:22najar
05:23aar
05:23aar
05:23aar
05:24aar
05:24to
05:24ojwikistan
05:25se
05:25dhek
05:26ke
05:26pradhan
05:27mantiri
05:27ji
05:27ko
05:27award
05:28milta
05:28hai
05:29usi
05:30ojwikistan
05:30se
05:31to
05:31mujhe
05:31lagta
05:31abawar
05:32bhi
05:32aar
05:32to
05:33is
05:34kya
05:34aar
05:35jwajwikistan
05:36se
05:36milao
05:37to
05:37nai
05:37lena
05:37chahi
05:37agar
05:38bhi
05:38uttar
05:39pradish
05:39ki
05:39bát
05:39kere
05:39aar
05:40dous
05:40ab
05:41kya
05:42uttar
05:42pradish
05:42me
05:43pravuram
05:44ke
05:44nama
05:44phe
05:45bharati
05:46janta
05:46party
05:46ab
05:46bát
05:47nai
05:47kira
05:47nai
05:47chahi
05:48chahi
05:48chahi
05:49chahi
05:50chahi
05:52chahi
06:14huwa
06:14to
06:15koon
06:15aya
06:15us
06:15ko
06:15uzagar
06:16karne
06:16ke
06:16liye
06:16us
06:17ke
06:17chahi
06:17chahi
06:17chahi
06:18chahi
06:49chahi
06:53chahi
06:54chahi
06:55chahi
06:55chahi
06:55chahi
06:55chahi
06:56chahi
06:58chahi
06:59chahi
07:00chahi
07:00chahi
07:01chahi
07:01chahi
07:01chahi
07:02chahi
07:27that's point one and point two equally significant
07:29moolana sajid rashidi raises the point that
07:33why is it don't you have any faith in the places of worship act 1991
07:41so
08:06Thank you very much.
08:32Thank you very much.
14:21You know, this is perhaps exactly the reason why this matter must be decided in courts of law.
14:29Courts of law should decide this matter. That's point one.
14:32Point two, equally important, this is a question that even Muslims must ponder.
14:38For Hindus, Mathura and Kashi are places of civilizational worship like Ayodhya.
14:43So if there is no justice from the time of Aurangzeb and the British and so many years,
14:49do Hindus don't have a right to civilizational justice in their own country, even through courts of law?
14:56And perhaps it's best for courts of law to decide.
15:00It's best for courts of law to decide why would some continue to defend the actions of invaders and their
15:08descendants?
15:09You know, we'll let viewers decide. We'll let viewers decide.
15:13I've run out of time. I want to thank our guests. I've run out of time on this part of
15:16the show.
15:16There's a very big story.