00:00Rahul Gandhi made a call in Pune, held an event which is smash patriarchy.
00:06You yourself, a lot of leaders from the BJP have reacted, you yourself reacted.
00:11The Congress's charge, Mr. Rajiju, is that patriarchy is not restricted to religion,
00:16while you have, somewhere down the line, put it into binaries of Hindu and Muslim.
00:22See, it's a very serious issue for me personally, because I'm also the Minister for Minority Affairs.
00:29When leader of opposition talks about smash the patriarchy,
00:34that means it is basically he wants to say that the females should be given freedom,
00:41females should have their own way of life.
00:43Then I questioned him, what about the Muslim women?
00:46Are Muslims not our babies, our sisters?
00:50What about those who want to have a Sharia law?
00:54What about the triple talaq?
00:55What about the millions of Muslim girls subjected to polygamy and tortures and all?
01:03Why are you talking about Manus humility and only Hindu culture?
01:07So it is a design to hit the Hindu culture.
01:11It's a larger conspiracy.
01:12That is why, not this time, but I had stated earlier, that why India was subjugated by the foreign rules
01:21for over thousands of years.
01:23That is because half of the Hindus themselves are not supporting the Hindu cause or Hindu culture.
01:32Because if you are targeting or try to weaken your own Hindu structure, then you are going to weaken your
01:43own community.
01:43If there are bad practices in Hinduism, that must be called out.
01:50Sati has been declared as invalid or crime, or child marriage has been declared as null and void.
01:58Polygamy, this is declared non-valid now.
02:02So this kind of many practices, even many social reformers have come.
02:08They have not abused Hinduism.
02:11They have asked for reforms within the Hinduism.
02:14So the issue is a larger one.
02:15If the leader of opposition had targeted everybody, saying that no religion should have this kind of binding control over
02:24the daughters and the girls, then I would have said, oh, this is a good one.
02:27But you are connecting Manus humility and then, you know, smash the patriarchy, only targeting Hindu, not mentioning about triple
02:36talaq.
02:37Muslim women come to me.
02:39Muslim women come to me.
02:40I have met since I have become Minister for Minority Affairs.
02:43I have interacted with so many Muslim women, the girls.
02:47They equally deserve the support of the government.
02:50The Congress have to answer what Shah Bono case teach us.
02:57Rajiv Gandhi himself changed the law itself under the pressure of the clerics.
03:03So that is why I said that if you take a stand, take a universal stand.
03:10Don't target one community.
03:11That is my point.
03:12So you're saying as the leader of opposition, it was the responsibility of Rahul Gandhi to touch on patriarchy in
03:18every religion, not just one religion.
03:20Speak about all religion.
03:22Sir, away from politics.
03:24You know, you're a practicing Buddhist.
03:26I'm a young woman.
03:27I'm a practicing Hindu.
03:28And I do feel and I would think it's something that we know that Hinduism is one of the most
03:33liberal religions in the world.
03:35Absolutely.
03:36It is – it's open to question.
03:38It encourages debate and discourse.
03:41So when we speak of Manusmriti, there are lots of young women out there who are looking at the government
03:46in power today and saying that why must we, women of this country, adhere to texts that might be part
03:55of a civilizational history but are deeply problematic and patriarchal.
04:00And Manusmriti has excerpts which are – why shouldn't we denounce them?
04:04Exactly.
04:05That's what I'm saying.
04:06The government is not putting Manusmriti as the yardstick to government.
04:13India is run by the constitution.
04:15The spirit of a constitution governs, not Manusmriti.
04:18Manusmriti is a belief system.
04:19If somebody believes in it, then you have a right to oppose and you have a right to defend.
04:24That is democracy.
04:25If somebody is supporting something which is they're prescribed in Manusmriti, that is his right.
04:34In democracy, how can you say that you don't – you can't subscribe to that?
04:39True.
04:40So that is why I said when Sonia Gandhiji and Raul Gandhiji said that we cannot tolerate RSS.
04:47So you don't subscribe to RSS means let it be, no?
04:51Those who believe, let them believe.
05:02This kind of attack, this kind of concerted attack against RSS has made RSS the largest social organization in the
05:11world.
05:11And this kind of concerted campaign against Modi ji made Modi ji the most popular leader, not only of India,
05:19but of the world.
05:20That is why you should not make this kind of regulated campaign, which is actually trying to mislead the people.
05:29My point is if you don't subscribe to any religious text, you object to that or you raise your opinion
05:37which is different from the other person.
05:41But don't say that the other person doesn't have a right to believe such a way.
05:44No, I hear you, sir.
05:45You just said that you don't subscribe to certain things.
05:48That is your right.
05:49No, I hear you and I'm glad you're saying this because I'll tell you why.
05:52Because you said sometimes there's perception.
05:54There is perception, sir, that, you know, and it has been bolstered by certain leaders from your party.
06:00That if you say anything, don't say your party, everybody is independent and everybody is a citizen of India.
06:07And they're allowed.
06:08So there, there are people who will have their own opinion.
06:12True.
06:13Only if BJP has certain guideline, I will not go against the BJP guideline or my party's policy.
06:19But with regards to your social movement and your religious belief, how does government control your religious belief system?
06:28I, I 100% hear you.
06:30So let me ask you a question, which is devoid from politics.
06:33If a young girl out there today says that I want to denounce Manusmriti and paths in which they, or
06:41those paths which are patriarchal in nature, should she be labeled anti-Hindu?
06:46Those who have left Hinduism and embraced Buddhism with Ambedkarji, has anybody been jailed?
06:53And lakhs of people, those who were called as untouchable, they renounced Hinduism and they embraced Buddhism.
07:05I agree.
07:06On 14th October 1956 also thereafter also.
07:10Hindu is the only liberal religion which has allowed this to happen.
07:15Can this happen in Christianity?
07:17True, I agree with you.
07:18Can this happen in Islam?
07:20Islam, no.
07:20No.
07:21You try in any of the Islamic nations, try to get this very Islam believer converting into another religion.
07:29I agree.
07:30So please appreciate Hinduism.
07:32100% you are right.
07:33Hinduism is the only philosophy which has given so much of freedom.
07:36100% sir.
07:38So that's why I agree because we are unlike other religions.
07:41Hinduism is unlike, like you said Christianity, unlike Islam.
07:44It gives me the reason and the space and a safe space to question my religion.
07:49So that's all I'm asking.
07:50So I'm not, not me.
07:52If a girl out there says I don't want to subscribe to it, so she's not anti-Hindu.
07:56But who has jailed them, I'm asking you?
07:58Not jailed sir, but there are a lot.
07:59I'll tell you why.
08:00Calling is difference of opinion, but how can somebody be jailed only because or treated
08:08as illegal or taken action only because one has given the opinion.
08:12But if you say you want to break India, cut chicken neck and break North East, I will
08:17be the first person to tell he should be convicted.
08:20Of course.
08:20And we'll get to that also because you have given a full detail.
08:23We'll get to that later.
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