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Willard and Dibs discuss the characteristics of this 49ers wide receiver room and wonder if this is the most unique room Kyle Shanahan has had in his tenure with the 49ers.
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00:00Dajon Stribling's never played an NFL game in his life, and Mike Evans has never played a game for the
00:0549ers.
00:06But in terms of, here's where I will say it is, at minimum, the most interesting, potentially receiving core that
00:16Kyle Shanahan has ever had with the 49ers.
00:19I think it's because of their characteristics, not just, oh, I like those guys better than those guys.
00:26If you think about it more from an X's and O's standpoint, the 49ers have had a really hard time
00:34through the years having a true, as they call it, X receiver.
00:40I mean, Bucky Brooks joined us yesterday.
00:42Every time he comes on, he references how hard we were on him when years ago, and this was the
00:50Super Bowl year,
00:51he made the comment that the 49er receivers are not man beaters.
00:58He made that comment, and he stands by it, and I'm not going to sit here now and say that
01:03he was necessarily right.
01:05But for everybody out there that talks about the schematics of the Kyle Shanahan system, there is something to be
01:12said here.
01:13They've had a very hard time, and it's been very rare through the years that they've had a true X
01:19receiver who can just go out there on an island and beat man coverage in the secondary.
01:27They have that now.
01:29That's Mike Evans.
01:31They signed Mike Evans because Seahawks.
01:34It's the way I view it.
01:36That's why they went out there on the first day of free agency and did that, because they viewed that
01:42that secondary, which was not challenged by last year's team,
01:48that allowed them to totally focus on Christian McCaffrey, and the 49er offense could not move against them in two
01:54games late in the season.
01:56Flat out couldn't move.
01:57Well, now you have that X receiver, and a better one than Brandon Ayuk was three years ago.
02:03Stribling is a rookie, but he has the characteristics of being able to do what Jawan Jennings used to do.
02:12They called it the big slot, but he's able to do it with speed that's a half a second better
02:19than Jawan Jennings.
02:20I don't know if it's going to work out, but again, these characteristics, and then you bring in Debo.
02:26You bring back Debo, who's motivated and skinnier, and if you can use him all over the field,
02:33backfield, slot, all of the things that Debo used to do, I'm just seeing a group that's a lot more,
02:40on paper, diverse
02:42than anything Kyle has had before with the Niners.
02:45That's the way I would assess it.
02:46And that makes a lot of sense, and I think Greg Cosell has said mostly the same stuff,
02:50and you got Ricky Pearsall to be that man-beater, and when he's been healthy,
02:54he's shown that he can be the man-beater.
02:57And the other piece of it, Mark, is when you look at the 49ers under Kyle Shanahan,
03:02Christian McCaffrey in the slot is a great man-beater, even out of the backfield.
03:06And same thing with George Kittle.
03:07And you go back to that Seattle game, Kittle got hurt against Philadelphia.
03:11He wasn't there, and so defensively, all they had to do really was worry about Christian McCaffrey,
03:16and they returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown.
03:19And Shanahan does not do very well historically when his team trails,
03:24let alone when they trail at halftime.
03:26So the Seattle game was a perfect storm of a number of different things.
03:29I still don't believe that they would have won the game
03:32if they didn't allow the opening kick to be returned for a touchdown.
03:35Seattle was better, but that game got away from them in so many different ways.
03:40The injuries caught up, and you fell behind and all the rest of it.
03:43And so you look at this year, and I do think that by the time they got to free agency,
03:48they had already some concerns about Ricky Pearsall,
03:51and when you got to the draft, you had those same concerns.
03:54And so you got in a free agent who's a Hall of Famer, Mike Evans,
03:58and you drafted a guy who you really love and who a lot of teams actually turns out they love
04:03him as well.
04:04Apologies to the consensus draft people who didn't love him until after the fact.
04:09And so, yeah, you're looking at a different group.
04:11You lose Juwan, and you bring in Stripling, who is a big, tough guy who can go deep.
04:16He can also go over the middle.
04:18Mike Evans, you mentioned a boundary X.
04:20You bring back Debo, who, if fit and in shape, and it seems like all the people who are down
04:26there say that he is,
04:27he can be that wide back again, and then you can sprinkle in Robinson and Kirk and the other guys
04:32you have in the room.
04:33Yeah, you have other credible receivers.
04:35There's credibility behind those guys.
04:38And then there's also still other intriguing young guys.
04:41I mean, I'm not done with Jordan Watkins and Jacob Cowling.
04:44I know that they've had bumps in the road with injuries early in their career.
04:48Here's how I would put it if somebody got into this conversation with you.
04:52You don't have a lot of ammo yet to say this is the best receiving core for Kyle Shanahan as
05:00the Niner head coach.
05:01You just don't have the ammo yet.
05:03Mike's got to stay healthy, and Stripling has got to actually do all of the things that he's threatening to
05:08do when the red lights come on.
05:09So if that happens, okay, then you're going to have ammo.
05:13Until then, I would just phrase it differently.
05:17I think this is about as excited as I've been about a receiving core in a long time with the
05:2549ers.
05:27You know, I mean, the IU season in 2023, I'm not going to say it came out of nowhere.
05:31I don't think anybody foresaw it being 1,300 yards and being second in the league with yards per catch
05:36and all of those things that he was that year.
05:39But that was a good core, and it had already been together, so it had some continuity,
05:44and everybody really understood their roles.
05:46So I like that one.
05:49And so maybe I'm feeling what I'm feeling because it's been three or four years of just seemingly everything that
05:56could go wrong goes wrong.
05:58The receivers were always getting hurt.
06:00Multiple receivers went into contract holdout situations.
06:04The IU drama takes over.
06:06Debo had a lightweight series of dramatic events himself.
06:10All of that.
06:11And now, within two weeks, you're picking up people off the street.
06:17Kendrick Bourne and Marquez Valdez-Stantling are running around out there.
06:21So we're wounded with regard to the room, and that has a lot to do with why I feel the
06:28way I do right now.
06:29But this group has me excited.
06:33I don't know if it's going to work out, but I'm very, very intrigued to see what they do.
06:38I'm intrigued to see how Kyle Shanahan uses them because we talked about, you know, that group in 2023,
06:44which was looking at the numbers and remembering it.
06:47It was mainly just IU and Debo.
06:50IU, 75 catches.
06:51Debo had 60.
06:53Jawan, 19.
06:54Ray Ray McLeod had a dozen.
06:56So it was really Debo and IU, and of course, it was McCaffrey and Kittle, and that was your passing
07:01attack.
07:02It was two receivers, a tight end, and your do-everything CMC running back, and that was your offense.
07:07And this year, you could rightly look at it and say, all right, Evans, maybe 70 catches.
07:13Stribbling, we'll give you 60.
07:14Debo, we'll give you 45.
07:16Robinson, how about 35?
07:18And so you can look at a certain amount of a committee based on health and availability,
07:23and some of that could take the pressure off Christian McCaffrey, who's coming off of a 400-touch season,
07:29and everyone wants to try to bring that back a little.
07:32And you've got George Kittle, who's coming off an Achilles.
07:35Will he play 17 games?
07:37Probably not.
07:38Will he play 12 or 14?
07:40I think that 14, 15, whatever it is.
07:43I mean, fingers crossed, yeah.
07:44It feels to me like this offense is going to have to be seven or eight guys as opposed to
07:49that year you talked about,
07:51which was just four guys.
07:52Yeah, 888-957-9570.
07:54We're wide open in the 5 o'clock hour for your calls if you want to get in on the
07:5849er conversation
07:59and your excitement level or otherwise for this particular wide receiver crew.
08:05There's one other thing I want to bring up to on this conversation, though,
08:08when you talk about how, for example, the completions last year,
08:13very, very low number went to wide receivers, 40% or so.
08:17This is where I'm going to run the risk of upsetting some people because he was awesome last year.
08:23He was awesome.
08:25But it is important to note if you're going to trumpet a stat like that,
08:31that half the year was quarterbacked by a backup.
08:35I think it's important to bring that up.
08:38I don't know the metrics maybe you do with regard to wide receiver catches when it was Mack versus when
08:46it was Purdy.
08:47I don't know if it was that different.
08:49I also know that for a portion of the time that Purdy was in there last year, he was also
08:54compromised.
08:56And therefore, there were games where I saw maybe for both quarterbacks, the idea was kind of like,
09:03let's get the ball out of our hands early.
09:05And that does not lend itself to wide receivers.
09:09But I think the number is going to go absolutely through the roof this year if the Niners are blessed
09:15with just a little bit of health.
09:17If they could get 16 or 17 games out of Brock Purdy, and if they can get 15 games out
09:23of Mike Evans,
09:24and if Dejan Stribling is what he's crocked up to be, and Debo and DeMarcus stay relatively healthy,
09:31I think that number is going to skyrocket, and I think that number will be north of 50%.
09:36It normally is in that 45% to 50% range just throughout the Kyle Shanahan era.
09:43And I think that last year was a little bit different, not only because you didn't have Brock Purdy,
09:47but also you had McCaffrey who had 102 catches on the year.
09:52And so your best option offensively almost all year was not run the ball with McCaffrey.
09:58In fact, you were actually not very good at running it at all.
10:01You mentioned the receivers where you didn't have Iyuk, and Ricky Pearsall got hurt fairly early in the year.
10:08And so you had tight ends, you had Juszczyk, you had McCaffrey, and then you had Bourne and Sky Moore
10:14and Juwan Jennings.
10:16And so last year was a little bit of a reverse kind of a year offensively.
10:20And so, yeah, if you do get Mike Evans at normal health 14 or 15 games, and you've got Robinson
10:25for the full year.
10:26Remember, he missed three games last year, right, due to suspension.
10:29I think it was three off the top.
10:31I think so.
10:31And so he actually didn't hit the ground running as you would hope he would.
10:36And now you've got Stribbling, who looks good in camp so far.
10:39I do think that coming into week one, you've got a better chance than you did last year,
10:44where you didn't have Robinson and you kind of were behind the eight ball a little bit.
10:48You know who really likes Purdy?
10:51Harbaugh.
10:53Harbaugh?
10:53Yeah.
10:53Not Harbaugh.
10:54No, no, no, yeah.
10:55Harbaugh.
10:56Did you catch this one today?
10:57Missed it.
10:58This is Jim Harbaugh.
11:00When he was asked about Brock Purdy.
11:03Listen to the way that he chose to answer this one.
11:05Yeah, just how good he is.
11:07His timing, his decision making, his accuracy.
11:10I just like how cool he is, you know, how cool he plays and all that, you know.
11:16Same, same, kind of the same way I think of Kyle, you know.
11:18I mean, it's cool.
11:20A lot of the stuff he puts on tape.
11:21I love, uh, love his demeanor.
11:23Love how he, love the toughness of his teams.
11:27You know, I love that they're really good at football.
11:29And, uh, you know, great, great to be around him.
11:32Almost sounds like he starts to whisper a little bit.
11:34Like, he's, uh, yeah.
11:36They're cool.
11:37Yeah.
11:37Brock Purdy.
11:38He's getting excited, is what you're saying.
11:40Kyle Shanahan.
11:41Yeah, I mean, he likes the toughness that the team plays with.
11:44Mm-hmm.
11:45And stuff.
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