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One man's hike ends in a bloody alien encounter. After killing a visitor to save his dog, Dr. Jonathan Reed captured terrifying evidence before being hunted by dark forces. The mystery that remains the world's most polarizing UFO case.

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00:00:28Transcription by CastingWords
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00:01:02This phenomenon exists, you know it does, and I definitely know it does, but there are
00:01:09those who want to keep this quiet.
00:01:11He lived a quiet and normal life until a deadly encounter in the deep woods of Seattle, Washington.
00:01:20He claimed to have found something not of this earth.
00:01:27An extraterrestrial being, and with it, a technology that defied human understanding.
00:01:36When this first happened to me, I was not in the end of science fiction.
00:01:42I didn't believe in any of this at all.
00:01:45The world barely had time to process the first grainy images and controversial video he released
00:01:53before the mystery deepened.
00:01:55What he presented to the world wasn't a gentle visitation.
00:01:59It was a violent, undeniable collision with the unknown.
00:02:10The original story is 30 years old.
00:02:14Yet today, the legend of Jonathan Reed is more alive than ever.
00:02:19It has been reborn in the echo chamber of the internet.
00:02:27What you just heard was the frantic breathing of Jonathan Reed.
00:02:30What happened to the alien?
00:02:32And somebody actually asked Jonathan Reed that on the Art Bell show.
00:02:37Okay, so this is a continuation of the Jonathan Reed story.
00:02:40The alien gray, which Dr. Jonathan Reed affectionately calls Freddy, by the way.
00:02:45In one hand, you've got it.
00:02:46It could actually be real, legit.
00:02:48This is legit alien footage captured in the Pacific Northwest, 1996.
00:02:55When I initially interviewed Dr. Jonathan Reed, he had mentioned at some point that there
00:02:59was a possibility that Freddy may come and visit me.
00:03:01Sure enough, two weeks later, I was at home and I turned around and in my armchair physically
00:03:06was Freddy.
00:03:07It was one of many encounters I've had with this entity.
00:03:09This being is still alive and out there and that he intermittently still sees it to this
00:03:15day.
00:03:15And the best part about this case is the evidence.
00:03:18On top of passing two polygraph tests, you have the link artifact, which had metallurgy
00:03:23done.
00:03:23It shows metals that are unidentifiable and the ones that are identifiable have combinations
00:03:29that we cannot make on this earth.
00:03:30Most importantly, the skin tissue samples of the alien, the DNA does not match anything
00:03:37on this planet.
00:03:39Dr. Jonathan Reed was walking with his dog, Susie.
00:03:42He found a strange alien creature in a hovering black obelisk.
00:03:47The funny thing is, Jonathan's story has never changed.
00:03:51He put the being, kept it wrapped back in the freezer, thinking it was dead.
00:03:55Clearly it was playing possum because a couple of days later, he hears a shriek and he goes
00:03:59in and the being is sitting up, literally.
00:04:02Millions of views are generated weekly by internet sleuths.
00:04:07The public scours for unseen video, hunting for any new testimony.
00:04:15For three decades, the door to his exact location has remained shut.
00:04:20Dr. Jonathan Reed has not been seen in person for an interview.
00:04:23And yet, his case persists.
00:04:26Millions of people, all around the world, are utterly fascinated.
00:04:35Social media goes crazy over the questions that linger.
00:04:39Who is Dr. Jonathan Reed?
00:04:41Where has he been?
00:04:43Is he still alive?
00:04:44The world is waiting for an answer.
00:04:49The world is waiting for him.
00:04:58Now, a handful of filmmakers, their faces obscured, their identities concealed, have tracked him down.
00:05:08A dark, undisclosed location in Seattle, Washington.
00:05:14They seek the truth.
00:05:16They seek Dr. Jonathan Reed.
00:05:41There's an ongoing effort to understand and get to know what actually happened.
00:05:49During the case, it's so complex.
00:05:53It's not a straight A, B, C situation.
00:05:58You have to know all the intricate parts of it to really understand it at all.
00:06:03That's probably why it's so difficult for most people.
00:06:08Thirty years ago, you know, it's been since the actual incident.
00:06:13But it's been an ongoing evolution of what I've had to deal with and had to change my life to
00:06:22become part of, to let it become part of me.
00:06:26It's not just a story to tell.
00:06:30It's a story that I've had to live.
00:06:44It's a story that I've had to live.
00:07:09This is the area where the obelisk was, the black 10 foot long obelisk, that's the tree,
00:07:19that's one of the two trees that were like a fork, like a pitchfork.
00:07:24This is all overgrown compared to what it was then.
00:07:37This is the place, this is the place where everything happened.
00:07:41This is the place where I know Susie was happiest.
00:07:52Susie had run off, out of sight, up in the area here.
00:08:02And Susie was out of sight, I couldn't find her, I couldn't locate her.
00:08:06And then up here, I located her and saw her up in this tree area.
00:08:18All I could hear was Susie screaming and barking and wailing like something was attacking her.
00:08:24And it was close, I couldn't see her, I couldn't see anything, so I ran through the woods over here
00:08:32about 30 feet.
00:08:33And there she was, with Freddie, with her, tearing each other apart.
00:08:39It was terrible, it was terrible to see.
00:09:04It's just emotional, I feel like she's here, feel like Susie's here.
00:09:09I mean, this was the last place that I saw her.
00:09:17Never could I have imagined that anything like that was about to happen.
00:09:24Never.
00:09:27So, when you ran up to your dog Susie, what happened next?
00:09:33Freddie had her by his throat and was throwing her back and forth like this, as fast as you can
00:09:39imagine him doing that.
00:09:41Like there was no weight to her.
00:09:43Like there was no weight to her.
00:09:43She was 80 pounds of a dog.
00:09:45And it was just unbelievable to witness.
00:09:50I mean, I could barely even fathom that something could move that fast, throwing my dog back and forth.
00:10:07And as I watched, I just saw Susie's body hanging from Freddie as he threw her back and forth as
00:10:15fast as he could.
00:10:15And in that moment, her body just turned to ash, just falling to the ground like ash from a fireplace.
00:10:24No distinguishing parts or pieces, just white ash.
00:10:28And that was the last time I saw her body.
00:10:32It was terrible.
00:10:34It was unnerving, mortifying, insane to see again.
00:10:39And I can still feel it.
00:10:42I can still feel it.
00:10:53Well, I jumped forward, took the branch that I picked up, and swung as hard as I could like a
00:11:01baseball bat.
00:11:04And hit him in the head, right in the back of his head.
00:11:14Splitting his skull, falling to the ground.
00:11:21All within seconds.
00:11:23No forethought, no imagery or plan.
00:11:29Just insanity.
00:11:32Just terrible insanity.
00:11:36To strike out against what I had just witnessed.
00:11:51I fell to the ground.
00:11:53I couldn't breathe.
00:11:54I had a hard time breathing, catching my breath.
00:11:58Something had hit me at the same time I hit the creature.
00:12:02And it was like a sack of bricks that had hit me.
00:12:07Crippling me.
00:12:08Making it almost impossible to breathe.
00:12:11And I just sat there for the longest time.
00:12:15Maybe 45 minutes before even moving.
00:12:18Because I couldn't move.
00:12:19I couldn't get up.
00:12:20I couldn't even barely breathe to think what was happening.
00:12:26What was really happening in front of me.
00:12:33It wasn't an illusion.
00:12:35It was there.
00:12:35It was there in front of me.
00:12:37Not three feet in front of me was this body.
00:12:41With his head split open and his blood all over the ground.
00:12:45It was a terrible, terrible moment in my life.
00:12:52Because not only did my life end as it had previously been.
00:12:59But for 30 years it's been the same.
00:13:03It's been me not able to reconcile the exact actions for this.
00:13:10I can't.
00:13:11I still can't.
00:13:12I still can't even think about what really happened to my dog.
00:13:19And I feel like she's here.
00:13:21I feel like she's locked in this area.
00:13:26I don't know.
00:13:28I don't know what else to say.
00:13:44So then I realized I had my video camera.
00:13:49And I thought why not try to get something.
00:13:52See if anything will be recorded.
00:13:55Maybe nothing will be recorded.
00:13:57But in spite of that it was just a spontaneous action.
00:14:02Something that made sense to me because I was used to my cameras.
00:14:06I was used to my pack.
00:14:08So I took it out and I just started recording.
00:14:12Everything that was in front of me.
00:14:14Somethings really cosecating here.
00:14:20Wildly running from one end of the forest here to another.
00:14:30Hoping something would be recorded.
00:14:35the video camera would become in in crazingly out of sync and go distorted so i didn't know
00:14:45what would happen i didn't know what i would get if anything but i just knew i had to try
00:14:51i had to try to record it for whatever use that would be
00:15:15when i came across the obelisk the black floating obelisk i ran up to it and i fell against it
00:15:22because i lost my footing and then i got back up and for a second i felt like maybe it
00:15:28had
00:15:28absorbed me maybe it had taken on me and then i was standing there and everything was the same but
00:15:35it was there nevertheless it was floating it was it was stationary it was it was as if it was
00:15:44anchored
00:15:45to the air insane insanity went through my mind just couldn't be happening none of this could be
00:15:52logically real but nevertheless it was there so i just kept filming
00:16:07this was 30 years ago that all this took place and every time i come back here it's like a
00:16:14sea
00:16:15surreal revision of seeing the same things happening in my mind in my memory
00:16:21and realizing i had a thermal blanket a recreational emergency thermal blanket which i used to cover
00:16:31the body in i didn't have anything else i thought if i could cover it and and save it preserve
00:16:38it i could
00:16:39bring somebody back to help me with this to deal with this so i ended up just opening the thermal
00:16:47blanket
00:16:47and wrapping the body up into it wrapping the body and rolling it into i didn't want to touch it
00:16:57i did not
00:16:58want to touch it so i kept a thermal blanket between me and it and wrapped it up like a
00:17:05burrito
00:17:07and put my straps from my pack on it and and lifted it up and it was light it was
00:17:14extremely light because the
00:17:17feeling of it was like it was 30 pounds at the most and the only reason it could be that
00:17:25way is because it
00:17:26had to have had hollow bones in them in amongst the the oddities of it but that was why i
00:17:34did it i wanted
00:17:35to preserve the body to have somebody help me because i was going out of my mind in this time
00:17:42looking for some kind of logical process to take and it gets dark in the forest early so i wanted
00:17:51to
00:17:51start heading back to where it was almost an hour to i have walked down to this place 30 years
00:17:59ago
00:18:00so i knew i had to get out i had to find a way out some people say this was
00:18:06amazing you were
00:18:07so courageous i wasn't courageous at all i was trying to survive i was trying to get out of here
00:18:14without just dying in the woods like my dog
00:18:42i drove home from the woods 60 minutes pulled in my carport looked in the rear mirror saw the
00:18:53reflective blanket in my mirror thought okay i'm gonna have to do something with this
00:19:00so i went unlocked the garage and went in and thought where can i put this saw the freezer
00:19:07and i decided okay it's meat it's dead it's going to start decomposing
00:19:14so i thought freezer that makes sense that's what i would do with it
00:19:27took it out opened it
00:19:35i checked it made sure it was there because constantly i was thinking it's not really there
00:19:43i was trying to talk myself out of it
00:19:46out of believing that i really brought the body home and i saw it i took out the link device
00:19:55from was in
00:19:57in just inside of this bundle set it on the side of the garage inside on the shelf
00:20:07and closed the door and went in the house and stood in the shower for i don't know how long
00:20:12because i
00:20:12mean i was a mess i had you know my bowels had exploded and i was a mess and i
00:20:20was sick sick to my
00:20:22stomach and throwing up for hours so i figured just go stand in the shower so i did stand in
00:20:30the shower
00:20:30with all my clothes on just you know getting rid of the layers
00:20:37and cleaned up a little bit so then i called my best friend gary and said hey where are you
00:20:46you know
00:20:48susie's dead i need to talk to you and i need your help and he said i'll be there and
00:20:54he came over
00:20:56i explained what had happened obviously he didn't believe me and i said i'll show you
00:21:05the videotape because i had the videotape of the woods and so i showed him he was in awe still
00:21:13didn't completely believe it and i said come to the garage he said what i said the body's in the
00:21:22garage
00:21:25and he he thought i had lost my mind
00:21:39but you know this is a guy who knew me in high school so obviously it was something that
00:21:49he could relate to as far as talking to his friend so i took him to the garage and basically
00:21:56opened the freezer laid the body on the ground
00:22:07and opened the thermal blanket
00:22:09and he was just white he was just became snow white couldn't believe it didn't say anything
00:22:28and i said i told you this happened this really happened
00:22:38and he basically realized that i was telling the truth and we went in the house and
00:22:45had a drink and sat on the on my couch and he just said well tell me what happened and
00:22:54i basically
00:22:54could tell him bits and pieces because it was still fragmented in my mind and i i didn't want to
00:23:03believe that it happened i really did not want to believe it and every few minutes i would say to
00:23:11myself well this can't be what all happened there had to be something else maybe i'm missing something
00:23:19but again the truth the proof was in the freezer
00:23:33and so we went back out to the garage and opened the freezer i unloaded the thermal blanket on camera
00:23:41and we'd you know open the blanket so you could see its face face his head its wound in his
00:23:49head that i had inflicted
00:23:52you know there was a two inch hole in its head
00:23:57had a skin and bone cap to it that was attached still to the skin so it was there flopping
00:24:09around
00:24:09uh it had bled out quite a bit i again i suspected it was totally dead in the woods when
00:24:18i brought it home
00:24:19and but nevertheless it ended up not being dead three days later after i'd brought it home it
00:24:29reanimated as i opened the top of the freezer it sat up and started screaming at me
00:24:36with such force that it pushed me back against the wall of the garage and i was out of my
00:24:45mind in fear
00:24:47i wanted it to run away i wanted not to deal have to deal with it at all and nevertheless
00:24:55there it was and and it was alive and animated and screaming and i thought gonna kill me next
00:25:32i knew nothing of art bell
00:25:36when i first heard of art bell my co-writer robert wraith who is now deceased
00:25:45is the one who said you need to talk to this guy who talks on the radio about all these
00:25:51different
00:25:51paranormal ideas i received a phone call from a gentleman a young gentleman robert wraith
00:25:58last friday night saturday morning who told me an amazing story of an
00:26:01alien encounter and said he had proof art bell was very open to talking clearly with me to allow me
00:26:10to
00:26:10say whatever i felt he didn't impose his will on me he didn't try to package me into something
00:26:20that i i didn't want to be i have a partial script of the story itself i mean this evidence
00:26:29just came
00:26:29rolling in and that's how art bell became part of my life art bell allowed me to tell my story
00:26:37to him a person that i felt was honest and knowledgeable and to let his audience open that up and
00:26:48spread it as far as he could do
00:26:51when i was talking with art he said i i said well he makes noises the freddy makes the noises
00:26:58he squeaks
00:27:00and chirps and little squeaky sounds almost like a dolphin but i said that occasionally he makes this
00:27:07terrible scream sound as i opened the top of the freezer it set up and started screaming at me when
00:27:17i recorded the sound would you uh would you play the sound for us once again yes i will hold
00:27:24on okay here it comes
00:27:42oh my god that's awful art was taken back and and dumbfounded by it because he never heard anything
00:27:53like that neither had i and and it is a scary sound it scares you to your core some people
00:28:02in japan
00:28:03uh took the radio recording and played it through some some audio engineers and he said oh it's definitely
00:28:13a a biology it's not mechanical so and they did it two or three times and everybody said the same
00:28:24thing
00:28:24that was biological so it's just a heart rendering scream
00:28:33that it makes you feel like you are being forced back inside yourself
00:28:46it sat down and just kind of settled down and stopped screaming and then an hour or so later i
00:28:53went back
00:28:54out and opened the garage and just sat there watching it looking at it not recording it not trying to
00:29:02do
00:29:02anything just to see if it was going to run away you know and like i'm being honest i i
00:29:10wish it would have
00:29:11because i didn't want to deal with it i had been too stressed because of the circumstances to begin with
00:29:21and i didn't know what was going to happen i didn't know if i could handle anything more at all
00:29:27what are
00:29:28we going to do and we didn't know what to do i mean we talked about it for a long
00:29:34time you know who could
00:29:36you call who could you come to help you know either dispose of this or take it off your hands
00:29:42i mean i would have been happy with the university taking it you know into their biology department
00:29:49but we did what we could we made some phone calls we you know i tried to settle down i
00:29:57tried
00:29:57to not be sick because i was still sick from in the woods i mean my body was going through
00:30:05convulsions
00:30:08and so that's how the process started is gary would call different places he called the air force
00:30:16he called the police he called mufon and i had no idea what that was but they they were very
00:30:24receptive
00:30:24they said well yeah we'll help you let's meet at a neutral location you have some kind of evidence
00:30:33and i said yeah and he said well show us what you have so within that next six hours i
00:30:43met with them
00:30:44at a public restaurant in the open where i could sit down where i couldn't you know felt like i
00:30:50was safe
00:30:51enough they told us what not to do they told us what to do they asked if they could have
00:30:58some of the
00:30:59evidence to to test and i mean they seemed legitimate to me but in the end they weren't they were
00:31:08lying they
00:31:08were wanting to steal all of that evidence and luckily we didn't give it all to them you know but
00:31:16they
00:31:16ended up getting some of the some of the initial footage that i had taken in the in the forest
00:31:26in the forest but it was a it just a madhouse it was just there was just no course of
00:31:34action that made
00:31:35any direct sense gary was much more adamant about it he felt he knew what this was that it was
00:31:45in fact
00:31:46some kind of extraterrestrial extra dimensional being and he had read up on it and talked a lot about
00:31:56it and so that's the course of action we took we just followed that those steps
00:32:14the first time i saw the link artifact was in the forest laying next to the body and i just
00:32:22saw it
00:32:22i thought i thought it was actually a bent coca-cola can and then i looked closer and i realized
00:32:28it
00:32:28wasn't so i put it in with the body when i wrapped it up to bring it home and after
00:32:35i got the body home
00:32:37and in my freezer i had taken that out of the package and just looked at it and saw that
00:32:45it was
00:32:47much more than i had realized that it was some kind of device or emblem of something i had hoped
00:32:57that my friend would have been over to my house at that time to help me but he wasn't so
00:33:03i just laid
00:33:04it aside the next day i had looked at it more directly and trying to identify what it was or
00:33:12what it could
00:33:13be and it gave no indication of what it was it didn't scream you know i'm an emblem i'm a
00:33:21you know
00:33:22part of some universal group it didn't scream any of those things it just was an unknown piece of metal
00:33:29with some etchings on it and i just i knew it wasn't for me i knew it wasn't from
00:33:36uh some other person in the woods it just it just screamed that it was part of freddie it was
00:33:48part of his
00:33:54being when i initially met in close proximity to freddie i knew that there was communication
00:34:05going on from him to me screaming at me maybe just a defensive mechanism but i felt it i felt
00:34:15it
00:34:16internally deep inside of me maybe at that time there was something given to me to understand what
00:34:25this device was but i don't know for sure a few days later i was sitting at a table with
00:34:35my co-author
00:34:37robert wraith and we were looking at it we just had it in front of us and we're looking at
00:34:43it and for
00:34:44some reason i just picked it up and set it on my wrist and the second that that happened it
00:34:51closed tight
00:34:53like a vice and didn't move and there was some pain to it and then all of a sudden it
00:35:01released
00:35:02so i knew it was active i knew it was doing something i knew it had some
00:35:10some type of memory to it as far as a metal uh changing its position and changing morphing into a
00:35:21different state so i mean it was miraculous no matter how you look at it it was a miraculous
00:35:27item so that was the first time i ever held it and put it on my arm
00:35:33did it fully activate no it didn't it just closed and then opened so that was the first time
00:35:55i had met this one guy happened to be a co-producer of a afternoon talk show in toronto canada
00:36:04a local
00:36:05television show and he said well someday if you ever want to show me what that that thing's about
00:36:13well i got a phone call from him and he said somebody just backed out of a deal tomorrow if
00:36:20you can make
00:36:21it and get you on the show so i did it i flew to toronto got off the plane took
00:36:27my crew and uh walked in
00:36:30and he said well what do you want to do and i said um okay you tell me what you
00:36:36want to see
00:36:38and he said well you're going to use this thing on camera right i said yeah said so put it
00:36:43station
00:36:44give me one camera stationary i want nobody else around you know so you can shoot it from start to
00:36:51finish as it transforms and he said okay we'll do that he did an announcement of what it was
00:37:00i talked to the audience a little bit i said hey this is who i am this is what happened
00:37:05this is how i
00:37:06found it and this is what it is this is what so many people have tried to say doesn't exist
00:37:15or simply it's a figment of someone's imagination it has symbols across the front of it this is what
00:37:24i found i found in the forest and i went through the process of putting it on my arm showing
00:37:30how it
00:37:31works what happens during the transformation and that sometimes it doesn't work sometimes it works
00:37:40it's not always consistent and that we it was a you know throw the dice whether it would or not
00:37:50and it
00:37:50did i believe it fits on your arm the wearer's arm like this if you push down and the needles
00:37:59penetrate
00:38:00your skin tissue and into the nerves of your arm there is some pain to it but it quickly quickly
00:38:09goes
00:38:09away it becomes kind of a cold almost a frozen type feeling and it transformed me from being in the
00:38:20the presence of those people those camera crew people uh in a setting where there was about 200
00:38:29people in the audience i think and gone to another place another location
00:38:36then it starts to be activated by there now i can feel it i can feel it in my chest
00:38:46it's painful but if i hold my chest it has a tendency to be less painful and then they make
00:38:58the decision
00:39:24and in that moment i felt like i was in the presence of
00:39:29an angel or god i didn't want to leave i didn't want to ask for anything i was happy just
00:39:38content
00:39:40and they said no we we know we have to send you back and i said no i don't want
00:39:48to go and they said
00:39:49you'll come back again you'll come back and they sent me back
00:40:20i was again back in the studio with this thing on my arm and then it released
00:40:27and that was that was it
00:40:35i was in awe
00:40:56and like anyone would be seeing that happen right in front of you and not
00:41:03knowing how to react to it not knowing what to say not having any words to
00:41:10reference what you just witnessed I mean it's it's a miraculous thing
00:41:27so where's the link now it unknown to me its location I never know where it is it's out of
00:41:36my
00:41:36mind out of my thought out of my head space look 14 people were killed to keep this information
00:41:46from coming out to keep me from speaking even about it 14 people dead not maybe not
00:41:54somebody these are people I knew there were my friends I mean Robert Rafe my co-author Gary my
00:42:04best friend and members of my own family are dead because of this am I going to prevent that from
00:42:11happening to anybody else if I can but I've set up something to prevent it from happening things
00:42:21that they know that I've already set in place from the first time I brought the body home
00:42:42thinking it was dead three days later it reanimated and six days later it was gone the body was gone
00:42:55from my house I had driven by my house seeing some vans sitting up inside my yard I didn't stop
00:43:03I went to
00:43:04a friend's house five minutes away called the police said somebody's breaking into my house they said
00:43:11okay they'd be right there I stayed with my friend for a couple hours and then drove back to my
00:43:20house and
00:43:20found that my house had been ransacked they had taken all the furniture piled it up in the middle of
00:43:27the
00:43:27room and basically had poked holes in the walls and the ceiling and the floor it took the toilet off
00:43:39of
00:43:39the floor and just left it in a pile water going everywhere they obviously were looking for evidence they
00:43:52didn't have any because we had moved it luckily at that time to another place and when I went in
00:43:59the
00:43:59garage I thought well you know obviously they've got it and they've got the body and I looked around and
00:44:05the freezer was gone the whole freezer was gone I guess if you're gonna try to take evidence and and
00:44:17make
00:44:17sure you're thorough you just take everything but when I was in the garage I noticed there were footprints
00:44:24small small frosty wet looking footprints on the ground inside the garage not going to the door not
00:44:35going to the window but walking straight to the wall just like he walked right through the wall and I
00:44:42had
00:44:42hoped that he got away and at that moment for about a month I didn't know if he had got
00:44:51away or what I
00:44:53didn't know what had happened but then one day I was in the house and he just appeared in the
00:45:02house he
00:45:03just manifested in the corner of the room looking at me just kind of moving back and forth almost an
00:45:12acknowledgment that he recognized me that that he was okay and and I hoped he was and it turns out
00:45:23he has been
00:45:34it's been really difficult the last 30 years to to have any kind of value
00:45:42lifestyle I can't work I can't get relicensed I've had friends of mine and co-workers and what I call
00:45:55my team
00:45:5514 people are dead who tried to help me who just tried to give me a normal life killed murdered
00:46:05not just
00:46:07natural causes I mean and death is death you can't you know fabricate it and pretend it's something else
00:46:17you know it's been 30 years of running of a nomadic life living from one end to the stick to
00:46:27the other not
00:46:28having really any money to survive much of any kind of life just enough to exist and people say well
00:46:37why do you
00:46:37keep you know why do you keep talking about I said what else can I do what else can I
00:46:42do other than tell you the truth of
00:46:45what's happening to my life ongoing even coming here today we were followed by another car that you know is
00:46:54trying to
00:46:54intimidate me trying to keep me from saying anything else this is an ongoing thing this hasn't let up in
00:47:05almost 30 years so if I have one thing to say it's you know I do this because it's the
00:47:14only thing I have to do to
00:47:15to survive you know it's not a game it's not a weekend thing early on in this journey I found
00:47:26myself in
00:47:27circumstances that I never would have believed would have happened the first day after I publicly spoke to
00:47:36about 400 people in San Diego I flew back just to Vancouver BC the next morning I was out getting
00:47:46something to eat at a little strip mall and a guy walked up to me with a gun directly into
00:47:53my chest right
00:47:55next to me and he never said a word I grabbed the gun pushed it out of the way and
00:48:02it fired
00:48:07and I think it had surprised him as much as me I fell against the parked car in the parking
00:48:14lot fell
00:48:15down guy ran up to me said you know are you okay you know I said yeah I'm fine he
00:48:20said no you're bleeding all
00:48:22over so it was a straight through and through a shot went in this side and out the back missed
00:48:32all all the vitals luckily and that was the first time I knew somebody was insane enough to want to
00:48:43give me that kind of harm and then it went from bad to worse we were followed we were ran
00:48:49off the road
00:48:53and all I could do was survive and think why why is this going on I kept asking the question
00:49:00why why does this
00:49:02have to be you know a negative situation there's there's no question in my mind that they were
00:49:14government trained and or government licensed to do what they were to do most of the time I believe it
00:49:22was
00:49:22harassment trying to intimidate me to not say anything or to give up everything I had obviously what I had
00:49:31was
00:49:32not normal and I what I'm saying is I had a body in my freezer in my garage and most
00:49:38people don't have
00:49:39that and I knew that I brought the body home initially because I wanted help dealing with this
00:49:45I wanted somebody to say okay let's take this to the university biology department and we'll dissect it
00:49:53we'll take it apart we'll give it to somebody who can do something with this not just look at it
00:49:59and
00:49:59you know try to kill me so that was the initial reality that I had to deal with was not
00:50:08just sitting
00:50:09saying oh look what I've got I didn't want to look at it I didn't even want to think about
00:50:14it I wanted
00:50:15somebody else to take it I mean my best friend was the one that was kind of running things at
00:50:21that time
00:50:22because I was really quite sick still from the woods whole operation and so any help I could get
00:50:43that was welcomed
00:50:46Jaime Masson became aware of my case
00:50:51Jaime Masson became aware of my case
00:51:02and asked me to come to Mexico
00:51:09Lo and behold did I know what was about to happen
00:51:15Jaime went out of his way to secure the site, a hotel, the studios so that my team was safe
00:51:28we had had several threats of death if we were going to do this show
00:51:53When I brought it out the morning of the program
00:51:58I called Jaime to the hotel room and closed the door and said Jaime I have something I need to
00:52:06tell you
00:52:06I brought the link artifact with me
00:52:11and he walked in the room and fell to his knees and wept in front of it
00:52:17because he was so excited that we were able to present it on television
00:52:32while Jaime was involved he took his team from Mexico City
00:52:38flew to Seattle to the location in the forest and did all kinds of comprehensive testing on the foliage
00:52:46the bark, the trees, the dirt, everything they could find
00:52:51and then brought it back to Mexico and had a forensic examination done of all those tests
00:52:58what that exposed was the fact that the area of 300 foot circle around where the obelisk was, the black
00:53:08obelisk
00:53:09had been saturated with a different type of radiation
00:53:14not familiar with anything to do with the forest or nature
00:53:20and that was his team that discovered all that
00:53:25I had nothing to do with it, so it was amazing
00:53:38The entity that I call Freddy, which is basically a grey, if you have to identify him
00:53:47is in constant communication with me
00:53:51he still tries to manifest in front of me all the time
00:53:56he has a fascinating story to tell
00:53:59and I have learned to interpret it as best I could to understand it
00:54:05it has to do with things that are happening now
00:54:09and that are going to be happening soon
00:54:11so I know he's still in my world
00:54:15I know he's still part of this journey
00:54:18I've learned a lot of things
00:54:21I've learned a lot about his life
00:54:23about his language
00:54:26about his friends
00:54:28his family, so to speak
00:54:33and it's amazing
00:54:34it's just an amazing account
00:54:37of what he's tried to tell me
00:54:42and I've tried to tell him
00:54:43his language is telepathy
00:54:4699% of what he does is telepathy
00:54:50he wants to share with me
00:54:52I think his life
00:54:55how his life surrounds our world
00:54:59which is much different than us humans
00:55:03where he'll sit and talk and rock
00:55:07and look at me
00:55:08and give me telepathic messages
00:55:11and I do the same to him
00:55:13we've learned to communicate
00:55:16in a real rudimentary way
00:55:18but in a very serious way
00:55:21it's a struggle to make this information
00:55:25clear to me and clear to him
00:55:28it's like learning a foreign language all over again
00:55:32but it's amazing
00:55:35and it's real
00:55:36and it is
00:55:38one of the most incredible things
00:55:40I've ever experienced in my life
00:55:42he'll say
00:55:45in different forms
00:55:47a lot of times
00:55:49in just a visual form
00:55:52a graphic form
00:55:54of what he's thinking
00:55:56what he's doing
00:55:57where he's coming from
00:55:59and what he expects of me
00:56:01and I do the same with him
00:56:04it's not a straightforward communication
00:56:08like you or I would have
00:56:11it's more of a pictionary form
00:56:14and then once we get into
00:56:16some of the details of it
00:56:18he may elaborate on some of that
00:56:21and project to me
00:56:22what he's actually thinking
00:56:24or asking
00:56:25or requesting from me
00:56:28so it's an ongoing evolution
00:56:31of communication
00:56:34people always say
00:56:36well if you had it all over again
00:56:38to do over again
00:56:39would you do it?
00:56:40because there's been a lot of trauma
00:56:43as far as the trauma goes
00:56:46yes, I wish it wasn't so traumatic
00:56:49but as far as learning from this little guy
00:56:53about his life
00:56:55and expanding on what that life is
00:56:59I feel like I've been blessed
00:57:02to be able to connect to it
00:57:05and it's ongoing
00:57:07and like I say
00:57:08other people have witnessed him too
00:57:10he's gone even to appear
00:57:13and manifest in front of them
00:57:14in their home
00:57:15or in their business
00:57:17and it's phenomenal
00:57:24this isn't a new story
00:57:26this isn't just about me
00:57:28it's about all of us
00:57:30and understanding the fact
00:57:32that life has to evolve
00:57:34and this is part of that evolution
00:57:47since I've gone public with this
00:57:49I've gone all around the world
00:57:52looking at people
00:57:54talking to other people
00:57:55who have had interesting situations
00:57:58happen to them
00:57:59and they all say one thing to me
00:58:01they say
00:58:01how come in the United States
00:58:04this is covered up?
00:58:10but yet I couldn't deny
00:58:11what was happening to me
00:58:12no matter how hard I tried
00:58:14to deny it
00:58:15and I did
00:58:16I could not deny it
00:58:18and as I continued
00:58:20through this evolution of ideas
00:58:28not always is the truth documentable
00:58:34and not always can we rely on the people
00:58:38that we have learned to rely on
00:58:41to tell us the truth
00:58:48one of the things I think we all need to realize
00:58:52and this is something I've continued to say
00:58:54from the first time I was ever here
00:58:57and the first time I went public
00:58:58is this is not about me
00:59:01it's about all of us
00:59:06this is our home
00:59:08but we share this home
00:59:10with many many other creatures
00:59:13and I've learned that this creature
00:59:16that I found
00:59:17also shares this space with us
00:59:19from time to time
00:59:20sound of all of us
00:59:20in time
00:59:23ehh
00:59:42in time
00:59:42this is not about us
00:59:48when there is a
00:59:48a mining
00:59:48in time
00:59:50some things
01:00:17So, let's go.
01:00:47So, let's go.
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