00:00You sat at a booth with a bunch of women and said I was a drunk,
00:03that I'll never get a man, and that I had no money.
00:05How do you think that makes me feel?
00:10Virtual reality.
00:13Hi, I'm Danny Murphy.
00:14I'm Evan Real.
00:15And who O.C.?
00:17The Tres Amigas.
00:18The Tres Amigas are maybe back in action?
00:23I don't know.
00:23I know for a fact when those three women walked into the quiet women,
00:27every person was like, why did I not call out today?
00:30How is this going to go?
00:31Because, of course, was it three weeks ago from filming,
00:35or maybe a month ago from filming,
00:38Tamara and Shannon were there and got into a screaming match of screaming matches?
00:43Yeah, they were filming Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip,
00:46the roaring 20th celebration that I cannot wait to see.
00:49I'm so excited.
00:49I really can't wait to see how this conversation truly went on
00:51because we've been talking about it a lot on this season of Orange County.
00:54And according to Tamara and Shannon,
00:58and it seems like the sentiments that were shared with Shannon by Tamara were,
01:04you're never going to find love, you have no money,
01:08and there was something else.
01:09Oh, you're a drunk bro who will never have a man.
01:11Yes, that's, thank you, Danny.
01:13I'm like, oh, that's a manifestation in the mirror.
01:16And I can understand why Shannon's feelings were hurt.
01:21If you forgot that, and Tamara's crying like Regina George,
01:25what does that say?
01:25That whore.
01:26Remember that letter?
01:28Yeah, very that.
01:29But I do like that Vicky was able to get these two women together
01:35and got to some resolution.
01:36Like when Tamara's about to, when Shannon's like,
01:38how do you think that would make me feel?
01:40Tamara's about to say something else,
01:41and Vicky's like, answer it.
01:42How do you think it makes me feel?
01:43No, answer the question.
01:44Okay.
01:45Um, probably not good.
01:46And I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I said that.
01:48Okay?
01:48I'm sorry.
01:49I was like, this is a stat.
01:50No, she did an, an impeccable job, honestly,
01:54because you're right.
01:55Shannon was like,
01:55how do you think that was supposed to make me feel?
01:57And then Tamara immediately launches into,
01:59how is that supposed to make me feel?
02:01And then Vicky's like, answer the question.
02:03And she did.
02:04She did.
02:04And she said sorry,
02:05which at the beginning when she met up at the quiet woman with Vicky,
02:08she was like, I am not apologizing.
02:09So, you know, at some point her mindset evolved and she decided to just apologize.
02:15Cause that's what Shannon needs.
02:17That's what Shannon needs.
02:18And I think, and like Shannon kind of started smiling immediately when she was like,
02:21wow, thank you.
02:21Like, yeah,
02:22I think it meant a lot to her because it's not easy to get an apology out of Tamer Judge.
02:27It's not really in her practice, you know?
02:29It is not.
02:30So major, and Shannon knows that.
02:32Yeah.
02:33So I think that's why Shannon was like, wow, this actually is meaningful.
02:36Again, we will see how long it lasts.
02:37We hope it continues.
02:40We also, um, it seems like Emily and Tamara, they got to a good place,
02:47but Tamara didn't really like what Shannon told her that Emily said about the iHeart parties.
02:52Tamara was like, I'm clearly joking.
02:54Yeah.
02:54And she's like, why can't anybody let things go?
02:56I can call iHeart now and say that they can invite you to events now.
03:00I was joking with her and I told her, she goes, you didn't.
03:03I go, I'm joking.
03:04Right.
03:05I think that, look, Tamara, she is, she's sarcastic.
03:08She loves to make a joke.
03:09She likes to poke.
03:10She likes to prod.
03:11I think it's all in good fun.
03:13However, I do, I do understand Shannon saying, well, after you had had a heated discussion
03:18about something that very much hurt Emily's feelings to then make that joke,
03:21was that the best move?
03:23Maybe not.
03:24I really don't think Tamara meant much by it.
03:27But although Emily's interpretation was like, that was Tamara asserting, I'm up here, you're
03:32down here, which I do understand her interpretation.
03:35For Tamara, though, I don't think it's that deep.
03:38I think she was trying to like cut the tension with a joke.
03:40Yeah, exactly.
03:40That's what I think too, for sure.
03:42Now, also, I got to say, if Carmella wants to have a moment, give me a Dior bag.
03:47And a dildo?
03:48You know, if that's the bogo that we, she got seven.
03:51So she has six hanging around in the apartment, her multi-stunning mansion.
03:56Oh my God, yeah.
03:56What did you make of Emily kind of talking to Heather Dubrow about, she kept on wanting
04:01me to open my Dior bag at the party.
04:03She wanted a little moment.
04:05Now I'm realizing, I think, because I think the interpretation Emily was trying to give,
04:09which I was like, that Carmella wanted to flex that she could buy a Dior bag.
04:13She said multiple times to me, oh, are you going to open your gifts?
04:17Was the intent to actually just try to be funny and give me a nice gift?
04:21Or did she want to, maybe a moment or something?
04:24I think it was more so she wanted to have a gag silly moment about the dildo.
04:28Maybe it could have been a combination.
04:30I think it was either or.
04:31I do think that if she, if it's true that she kept bugging her to open the gift, obviously
04:36she was looking for a moment.
04:38Is it to show off that she can flex the fact that she can just buy a Dior bag for
04:42a woman
04:42and she's known for hardly any time at all?
04:44Love that.
04:45Or is it just, I want to have someone wave a dildo on screen on orange?
04:49Like, either way, I support it.
04:52That's what gives me hope that Carmella actually will give me a Dior bag because she knows me
04:55as well as she knows Emily.
04:55Right, there you go.
04:57The men's saddlebags are so cute, Carmella.
04:59I don't know.
05:00I'm just letting you know if you want to shop.
05:01And the Dior clutch that she got, Emily, was very cute.
05:04She showed her up as...
05:04She said thank you.
05:05Yes, she did.
05:06Well, I love too.
05:06Heather was like, Emily, why are you complaining about a Dior bag?
05:09Take the bag.
05:10Heather did.
05:11I think she was joking, maybe not.
05:12She said that friendship can be bought with handbags.
05:14So I love that Heather.
05:16She has a girl about her bag.
05:18Who else said?
05:19Oh, when Dorit and Sutton, they were like, you know what?
05:21If Sutton gives me her Kelly, all will be forgiven.
05:25Like, handbags really are love languages.
05:27That's all it takes.
05:27Yeah.
05:28But it seems like we maybe will need to be giving some bags between Heather and Emily
05:32because it seems tension will brew kind of inspired by Jen's mess with Heather.
05:38Yeah, Jen's mess with Heather is really perplexing me.
05:42It's just I can't tell if Jen decided to get involved in Heather and Tamara's relationship
05:49because she hates Tamara so much and just wanted to ruin a friendship of Tamara's.
05:55Or if she thought perhaps she was being a good, or like, does she want to rebuild a friendship with
06:03Tamara?
06:03It's like, what is it?
06:05Either way, what she's not considering is her friendship with Heather because this is doing nothing to help it.
06:13Like, I don't know.
06:14Like, I just feel like maybe she's over Heather.
06:16I guess she is.
06:17The way she's sort of navigating their friendship by being so messy.
06:22Do you think Jen's feeling a little extra cocky because she has a new friend in the mix?
06:25Maybe.
06:26And that, I mean, look, that makes sense.
06:27Go for it.
06:27Like, maybe she feels closer to Carmella.
06:30She's getting a few more years of Housewives under her belt.
06:33Right, totally.
06:33Also, speaking of Jen and just really participating in the Housewives experience, opening up her life more,
06:39talking with her son Grayson about his ticket that he got, but then learning more about the situation.
06:45He's very upset about his parents' divorce.
06:48He's upset because at school people seem to be unkind to him.
06:51They're bullying him.
06:52And it just felt like such a heartbreaking moment for Jen.
06:55My heart really went out to her because I can't imagine, like, we don't have kids,
06:59but I can imagine if I had a kid and they told me this, that, and the other, oh, plus
07:03I'm being bullied,
07:04I would not know how to react.
07:07Are people being unkind to you?
07:11Yeah.
07:13You're, like, the kindest person I've ever known.
07:16He was going, like, over 100 miles per hour.
07:18He was, like, speeding, right?
07:19Yeah, he was speeding.
07:20And Jen was like, I got so mad at you, and I'm sorry for getting so mad at you,
07:24but the reason I got so mad at you is because if anything happened to you,
07:26like, my world would have ended in that moment.
07:28You are my world.
07:29He's like, I can't lose you.
07:30So it was a really heartbreaking scene.
07:32Is that the son who, the fire incident, too, that she posted about, or no?
07:37I'm not sure.
07:38I'm not sure.
07:39I just, because Jen posted about that recently on social media.
07:43Just, it's a stressful time in the family house.
07:45Yeah, I know.
07:46It seems like so much stress in Jen's life.
07:49I just, I pray for peace for Jen.
07:51But Jen, you're not going to get peace.
07:53Don't mess with Heather and or Tamara.
07:56Those are two women I would not want to mess with ever.
07:58No, that is a way to find the exact opposite of peace in your life.
08:02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:02No tranquility there.
08:04Yeah.
08:04But, you know, props to, props to Jen for just making herself vulnerable enough.
08:10And also props to Grayson for having that conversation on camera,
08:13because that cannot be easy.
08:14But I'm sure it's really relatable for what a lot of parents and their teen children
08:19are going through.
08:20Oh, yeah.
08:21Like, you know, teens be getting in trouble and teens are getting bullied.
08:25And it's just, it's a lot during those years.
08:27Carmella, I think, is also being a relatable mom, dealing with all the kids.
08:29Where it's like, you have to go to track practice.
08:31You have to go to school.
08:32What did her kids say?
08:32I have a valid reason for skipping school.
08:34I was watching TV.
08:35She was like, I needed to get a tan.
08:36I needed to catch up on my shows.
08:37I was like, wait.
08:39You skip work for, I'm kidding.
08:40Am I, am I, am I Carmella's daughter?
08:42I was like very, very much relating.
08:44You would love to be in a Carmella household.
08:46I would love.
08:47We're going to have a fabulous time when she comes to New York City.
08:49I love Carmella so much.
08:50And the thing is, I'm just immediately fascinated by her because of her Playboy associations.
08:55I love anything Playboy related.
08:57I just find it so fascinating.
08:59And a WAG alum.
09:00And a WAG alum.
09:01She was also a WWE wrestler.
09:03Like, she just has like a lot of fun story there.
09:06And she seems just like a fun time to hang out with.
09:08Also, we love our girl Vicky Gumbelson.
09:10But Carmella, it seems later on this season, she's not afraid to go up against Vicky Gumbelson,
09:15which I can really appreciate and admire in a newbie going up to an OG, but like not
09:19just an OG, like the OG.
09:21The OG of Housewives.
09:22Yeah.
09:23So good for Carmella.
09:24And look, I think Vicky can obviously handle herself at this point.
09:28So whatever Carmella threw her way, you know, I'm sure they figured it out.
09:32But I mean, we are so excited to see that mess because we do love our mess.
09:37And we are excited to see the rest of the stuff that goes down in OC.
09:40So stay tuned for our recap next week about that episode.
09:43Stay tuned.
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