00:00You and Vicki clearly didn't miss a beat in your friendship.
00:02What was it like to film with her again as a fellow orange holder?
00:05It was like being at home.
00:07It was just so natural and easy.
00:10And I have so much fun with her and our chemistry together is so good.
00:14Text her, go, I am cracking up just watching us.
00:17It's crazy.
00:18Well, you've got so much going on with your family and your multiple businesses
00:21and your successful podcasting network.
00:24What are viewers going to see from you this season?
00:26A little bit of a calmer.
00:29Tamara?
00:30Maybe somebody that thinks before they react.
00:34You know, my daughter is a big part of the show.
00:39I'm now an empty nester.
00:41No kids at home.
00:42Been raising kids for 40 years.
00:44And just a different phase of my life.
00:46Well, the season starts off with you and Shannon in a precarious place.
00:50But Vicki teased when she spoke with us last week that you two go through a bit of a transition
00:54as time goes on.
00:56Seeing Tamara kind of makes my blood boil a little bit.
00:58I don't know what to do.
01:01I just don't want any fights.
01:02I want nothing to do with her.
01:04Is that accurate?
01:05And is there an evolution to your friendship?
01:06Vicki's not wrong.
01:07Vicki is not wrong.
01:08We definitely move forward and kind of step back and move forward.
01:13And I'm trying.
01:14I'm doing everything I can over here.
01:16And Shannon's just one of those people that really holds a grudge forever.
01:21And it's a lot of, I don't know if I can go back to that.
01:25I don't know.
01:26Just move on.
01:28Just move on.
01:29Well, a lot was said about a showdown you and Shannon had at The Quiet Woman during the filming of
01:34Ultimate Girls Trip.
01:35Pissed me off by something she said.
01:37And I said, I don't have anything to say.
01:39And I just think I said that you're a mess.
01:42You can't get a man and you don't even own a house.
01:44And I lost it.
01:46Do you regret how things went down at the event?
01:48I don't think it's as big as what people are making it out to be.
01:51I think that words were said.
01:55Somebody tried to reunite us.
01:57And I said, I've been trying.
01:59And she gave me some attitude.
02:01Made fun of my outfit.
02:03And then just escalated from there.
02:06Well, Jen Pedranti shakes the foundation of your friendship with Heather by reporting to you that Heather allegedly talks about
02:12you behind your back.
02:13I sat down with Heather.
02:14And when she talked about you, she just very much said, she puts you in a box.
02:19Why did you choose to walk about and digest what you were told instead of confronting Heather then and there?
02:24I think because I didn't understand where Jennifer was coming from.
02:28We weren't exactly in the best of place.
02:31Why is she giving me this information?
02:34She was close with Heather and then telling me Heather's talking behind my back.
02:38I just, I didn't trust her completely at that moment.
02:40And I wanted to think about it.
02:42And I thought, I don't know that Heather's really doing that.
02:46So I wanted to hear Heather's side of the story first.
02:48But I didn't want to hear it that night.
02:50Well, do you think Jen was coming to you as a friend with the information?
02:53Or was she just trying to stir the pot?
02:55I think Jen was definitely trying to stir the pot.
02:57And in this week's episode, you do have a really candid sit down with Heather about the state of your
03:01friendship.
03:02Yes, I am not a serial killer.
03:03They don't understand.
03:04I can have a problem with your behavior and then reach out to you and talk to you as a
03:10friend.
03:10Okay, because we...
03:11Talk about me like I'm a serial killer.
03:13I mean, I don't feel like you like me.
03:16Were you satisfied with her explanation of events?
03:18And were you glad that she admitted doing some wrong things, like talking about you behind your back?
03:22Yeah, I think it was fine.
03:23I thought that it was a great scene.
03:26I think that I get a lot of hell on this show for moving storyline around and bringing up the
03:35tough stuff.
03:35And now let them do it.
03:39Well, you also asked Heather if she minimizes your friendship when she's already the, quote, Tamra hater.
03:44Because you're around a bunch of Tamra haters, you minimize our friendship.
03:50No, I think...
03:51Just to appease them.
03:52No.
03:52At this point in the season, who are the real Tamra haters?
03:55This season so far, things turn around pretty quickly from last reunion.
04:00And I'm still very, very hurt and damaged by last reunion.
04:06And so I'm just kind of tippy-toeing around seeing who truly is my friend.
04:10So that's to be determined.
04:13Well, what can you say about your friendship journey with Heather this season?
04:16And how are you guys doing today?
04:18Oh, we're good.
04:19We're great.
04:19She was texting me yesterday.
04:22You know, if she was talking behind my back, I mean, sometimes this is the nature of the show.
04:28We all talk behind each other's back.
04:30I still, to this day, don't know what she actually said.
04:32Maybe we'll find out at the reunion.
04:34Well, it's really clear that you love your kids.
04:36But we do want to ask about the most brutal moment in the season 20 trailer.
04:39You say to someone, quote, you say I chose fame over being a mom, which is an awful thing
04:44for someone to think and an awful thing for you to hear.
04:47You said that I chose fame over being a mom.
04:49What can you tease about that moment?
04:51It was something that had been said.
04:54It was way worse than that.
04:55But it was something that was said about a year and a half ago on a podcast.
05:00And I choose to not talk about it with this person.
05:07And I was kind of tippy-toeing around it.
05:10Was it hurtful?
05:11Yeah.
05:12I think that any time anybody gets mad at me, their go-to is your daughter hates you.
05:20And it's just, it's sad and it sucks.
05:23And I just didn't want to go down that.
05:25But it just, it was kind of a build-up and it comes out.
05:29And it's probably one of the biggest fights on the show this season.
05:34Well, it's probably a little too early to talk about the reunion.
05:37But when the time comes, who do you think will have the most to answer for and why?
05:42I think Vicky's got a lot to answer for.
05:45I think Heather, for the first half of the show, will have a lot to answer for.
05:49Jen's been quite the little instigator this season.
05:54I think it's kind of equal for the most part for the rest of us.
05:58We, you know, obviously do our job and we have great conversations.
06:02And we question people about certain things.
06:05But there was a lot of conflict and resolution.
06:08And so we never really got stuck on the same thing for a very long period of time.
06:12So I think it's a really good season that we do.
06:14We are like really good friends this season.
06:17Everybody's really close.
06:18And on a scale of 1 to 10, what number rating would you give season 20 and why?
06:23I think season 20 will definitely be a 10 because we have so many housewives from the past that join.
06:30It's fun.
06:31People always say, oh, there's too much drama.
06:33Well, there's going to be a lot of fun this season.
06:35So tune in.
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