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00:00You just kiss her ring.
00:01You used to call me Queen Victoria.
00:02I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm a little crooked.
00:05Like what?
00:05I'm not trying to bow to anybody.
00:07I'm definitely not kissing anybody's ring.
00:10It's not happening.
00:14Virtual reality.
00:17Hi, I'm Danny Murphy.
00:18I'm Evan Riel.
00:19And oh, we are back in the OC.
00:21Well, we are, but the best news is that Vicky is back.
00:24Oh, thank God.
00:25Well, she's kind of back.
00:26She's low-key stuck in Mexico, or she was for a little bit.
00:29which I would love to be stuck in Mexico.
00:31I've never been to Puerto Vallarta,
00:33but it looks like a whole time and a half.
00:35Is it fun?
00:36It's a fabulous moment.
00:37And her condo looks stunning.
00:40To have a hot tub just overlooking the beach.
00:42Oh my God, it looks so beautiful.
00:43But she finally made it out of Mexico.
00:46Shannon went to visit her,
00:47which was really nice to see them reconnecting.
00:49But then she finally made it to Heather Dubrow's
00:51big Valentine's Day party.
00:52I know, I feel like the big moment
00:55was the return of Vicky.
00:56Her and Shannon seemed to have a lovely time.
00:58Yeah.
00:59Which is nice.
01:00It's great that Shannon's having some good times
01:02because, of course, I mean,
01:04we're going to be seeing more and more
01:05of her and Tamara maneuver some things.
01:08I also do want to shout out,
01:11Tamara's like,
01:11oh, well, you guys want something
01:13to talk about the first season?
01:14I'll have a fight with Shannon
01:15while filming the ultimate road trip show.
01:19Remember those headlines?
01:20Oh my God.
01:21Of Shannon and Tamara getting to an explosive fight.
01:23I guess Tamara's giving us some more details
01:24that she called her
01:27a girl who'll never find a man
01:28and not own a house?
01:29Yeah, something like that.
01:30And maybe a drunk, too?
01:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:33Something along those lines.
01:35I said that you're a mess.
01:37You can't get a man
01:38and you don't even own a house.
01:39And I lost it.
01:41And I said, no, you're the drunk.
01:43And then it ended there.
01:45Not sweet.
01:46And of course,
01:46it went down with the quiet woman.
01:48Of course.
01:49And then I like when Heather was like,
01:50other housewives were like stunned
01:51of how you talked.
01:52And Tamara's like,
01:53Tamara's like,
01:54I recap these women.
01:55No, right, exactly.
01:56Tamara's like,
01:57don't clutch your pearls.
01:58They've heard girls talk like this
02:00and worse.
02:01Yeah.
02:01You know?
02:02But Tamara is,
02:05it always just feels good
02:06to see Tamara on screen.
02:07I know that some people
02:10have opinions about Tamara Judge.
02:12My opinion is that
02:13she is a perfect housewife.
02:15She makes the franchise so much better.
02:18And without her,
02:19OC wouldn't,
02:20it just wouldn't be the same.
02:23And I feel this first episode,
02:25she's giving the Tamara
02:26we know and love,
02:27but also a little bit of that change
02:28where she's like,
02:29I'm not reacting and shouting.
02:30She's like,
02:31I'm going to look at the gifting suite.
02:34I'm going to get a tattoo.
02:35Right.
02:36I'm going to explore.
02:37And she's going to receive
02:39a lot of information
02:39about Heather Dubrow.
02:40Yeah.
02:41And once she received that information,
02:42she decided to,
02:43she wanted to leave
02:44and process that information
02:45in her cardigan.
02:47Also,
02:48the fact that she wore like a cardigan
02:49just over the shoulders,
02:50it's really emblematic
02:51of this new demure Tamara Judge.
02:55I know.
02:55It is very,
02:56it's very moody.
02:57Yeah.
02:57Very.
02:58It was like,
02:58it was an interesting fashion choice for her.
03:00One that I love.
03:01Yeah.
03:01Very indicative of where I feel like
03:03she is at emotionally.
03:04Yes.
03:04You know?
03:04Well,
03:05also,
03:05because what we found out from Jen
03:07was that Heather
03:09basically had a dinner
03:10and said she invited Tamara,
03:11but it seems like she didn't
03:12after the reunion.
03:14Yeah.
03:14And then spent the entire dinner
03:16talking Tamara,
03:17saying she put her in a box
03:19and compartmentalizes her
03:20and that's how she handles
03:21her friendship with her.
03:22And Jen was saying that Heather,
03:24and this is according to Jen,
03:26that Heather really was the one
03:28sort of leading the charge
03:30on the shit talking.
03:31Shannon agreed with Jen.
03:33About Tamara.
03:33Right.
03:34Yeah.
03:34So it's kind of,
03:35it's interesting.
03:37I don't know what this whole like
03:40Heather versus Tamara situation
03:42will be moving forward.
03:43Although I did see Tamara
03:45and Heather talking very lovingly
03:47about each other
03:48on the red carpet
03:49for the recent season 20 premiere party.
03:51So it seems like the girls
03:52have patched things up.
03:53And it seems like there's like
03:54some tension between Vicky
03:57and Heather
03:58because Tamara told Vicky
04:00that Heather's confused
04:02why Vicky and Tamara are friends.
04:05And also Heather's mad at Vicky
04:06for saying that she has an inheritance.
04:09Yeah.
04:09So I guess Vicky was questioning.
04:11Her pocket's getting a lot of promo this.
04:13Oh my God.
04:14Shout out to her and Christian.
04:14Yes.
04:15My friend, my soulmate, my podcast.
04:17On that podcast,
04:18she mentioned how
04:20she is not intimidated
04:21by Heather or her wealth
04:23or even the ways
04:25in which Heather
04:25has maybe accumulated her wealth.
04:28And she did mention
04:29in what I think,
04:30you know, we were saying,
04:31we think it was maybe
04:31just a throwaway comment.
04:32Yeah.
04:32I don't think it was so much
04:33of an accusation
04:34of saying that she inherited
04:36some of her money.
04:37I don't,
04:38I think she was just sort of like
04:40naming ways in which someone
04:41could have.
04:42Like inheriting, investing.
04:43Like, exactly.
04:45But Heather really
04:47zeroed in on the,
04:48the...
04:49She said,
04:49my husband worked
04:50at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
04:52Don't yell at me.
04:53My husband worked
04:55at Kentucky Fried Chicken
04:57and has worked his ass off
04:58as we both have
04:59for everything we have.
05:01And I think that is true.
05:02I think it,
05:03I'm sure it is.
05:04But she was really fixated
05:05on the inheritance claim
05:06of it all.
05:08And I just don't think
05:10that Vicky meant much by it.
05:11But Vicky did kind of like
05:13make an interesting observation
05:15in a confessional.
05:16She was saying
05:17she knows a lot of doctors
05:18and most doctors she knows
05:20don't live in $40 million homes.
05:21So like,
05:22I don't know what she means
05:23by that exactly.
05:25But Heather Dubrow's finances
05:27being questioned by Vicky,
05:28I don't think that's going to land
05:30well with Heather.
05:30And I feel like
05:32what I'm just,
05:33what I anticipate
05:34will happen this season
05:35is a lot of Heather versus Vicky,
05:38which is compelling television.
05:39That is compelling.
05:40And also,
05:40talk about two people
05:41that aren't going to stand down.
05:42Oh, yeah.
05:43Well, actually three people
05:44because Heather's mom,
05:45she's been on the show before.
05:47Yeah.
05:48This moment,
05:48I was like,
05:49where has her orange been?
05:51I guess it's been in New York.
05:52Because what did she say?
05:53Jesus made LA,
05:54but he lives in New York.
05:55Yeah.
05:56God created Los Angeles,
05:58but he lives in New York.
06:03How long did we practice that?
06:06Not long.
06:06Okay, good.
06:07Yeah, exactly.
06:08And then Heather was like,
06:09how long did you practice that?
06:10She was like,
06:10not that long.
06:11Not that long.
06:11I thought it was a great line.
06:12Great line.
06:13I thought it was fabulous.
06:14But it seems there
06:15we're going to get
06:15some family tension
06:18of just what they both,
06:21it's hard because I think
06:22it's a lot of tension
06:22about what they both wish
06:23the other person did
06:24differently 20 years ago.
06:26Right.
06:26So there's not really
06:26resolution there,
06:27but I think both sides
06:29will think that they're right.
06:30And I love that her mom
06:32is just a willing participant.
06:34Also, how does her mom
06:35keep getting younger?
06:37She's like,
06:37I don't know how old
06:38she is at this point,
06:39but like she is just so
06:41sprightly young and vibrant
06:43and like,
06:45gosh, she must be in her 80s.
06:47She has to be at least
06:48in her 80s,
06:48but it's giving 60.
06:50Like the Beverly Hills
06:51Bridge Club
06:52or something like that
06:52or something like that.
06:53I was like,
06:54this is incredible.
06:54I would need to be her.
06:55Like I aspire to be like her.
06:58I know.
06:59I also,
07:01Carmella, right?
07:01Yeah, Carmella, the newbie.
07:02Enjoyed her debut.
07:03Yeah, I like her a lot.
07:04She was a former playmate,
07:06which I just love,
07:07a playboy association.
07:08So I hope we learn more
07:09about her time in the mansion.
07:11She lived in the bunny house,
07:12she was telling Jen Pedranti.
07:13And she didn't necessarily,
07:14maybe we'll hear more.
07:16Jen was like,
07:16did you enjoy Hugh Hefner?
07:17Because obviously there's a lot of-
07:18I love the way Jen was like,
07:19how do I phrase that?
07:20Did you enjoy Hugh Hefner?
07:24And she did mention
07:25that she never had sex with him.
07:27Yeah.
07:27She didn't live in the house.
07:28She lived in the bunny house.
07:29She did not have sexual relations
07:30with that man?
07:31I guess not, yeah.
07:33So anyways,
07:34she's very interesting.
07:35She's beautiful.
07:36And when she was told
07:38that people tend to kiss
07:40the ring of Queen Victoria,
07:41Vicky Gunvalson,
07:42she was not feeling that.
07:43And she very emphatically said,
07:45I'm not kissing a ring.
07:46I'm not kissing a ring.
07:48No one's going to be getting
07:48that kind of energy from me.
07:51So it seems like in the trailer
07:53for the rest of the season,
07:54there is tension between Carmella and Vicky,
07:56which will be fun to see.
07:56Carmella says that she has
07:57an expiration date.
07:59Like, to her face, yeah.
08:01And that's when Vicky was saying,
08:02look, I started this franchise.
08:04Like, this is, I mean,
08:05in many ways she has.
08:06And shout out to Vicky,
08:07because longest standing
08:09housewife ever.
08:10I mean, I know she took
08:10a few seasons off.
08:12She was a friend of,
08:13so like maybe not the longest run
08:15as a housewife,
08:16like as a full-time cast member.
08:18But you really can't take
08:20her achievements away
08:21as a reality TV personality.
08:23And like really,
08:25when you think of housewives,
08:26like you just can't think
08:27of that ecosystem
08:27without Vicky Gunvalson.
08:29So very bold of Carmella
08:31to come at Vicky
08:32saying everything
08:33has an expiration date.
08:34I know.
08:34I don't know if that'll land
08:35well with the fans.
08:36I don't know either,
08:37because I think fans are excited
08:38for Vicky to come back.
08:39Yeah, and also the New York Times
08:39just did a whole feature on Vicky.
08:41Which was amazing.
08:42The photos were spectacular.
08:43Good for Vicky, honestly.
08:45And good for Housewives,
08:4620 years.
08:47I know, very exciting.
08:49Insane.
08:4920 more years.
08:51And it will be 20 more years.
08:53It is, because it's funny
08:53when you're like 20 years,
08:54wow, what can happen next?
08:56And then you watch an episode
08:57of Orange County premiere
08:58in season 20,
08:58it's like they have
08:5920 plus more years left.
09:00Absolutely.
09:01What I am stressing about,
09:03because we love our Gina and Emily,
09:05I'm stressing that they both
09:06are maybe having
09:07a relationship questions.
09:10Yeah.
09:10Not in the previews to come.
09:13Right, so we see in the previews
09:15that Emily, I mean,
09:16she kind of mentions,
09:18is Shane the one?
09:20She doesn't know
09:20if Shane is the one.
09:22How long have you been met?
09:23I'm like, hey, what?
09:24I feel like we should know by now.
09:26Yeah, we saw you two
09:27wife swap together.
09:28Yeah, and with Gina,
09:30you know, there's
09:31the whole last name issue,
09:32because she and Travis
09:33are now engaged,
09:34and she was explaining
09:36that when she got divorced
09:37from her last husband,
09:39she kept the last name
09:40because she wanted to have
09:40the same last name
09:41as her kids,
09:43and then Travis,
09:44who Gina's mom
09:45kind of was like
09:45a little shocked
09:46at his old school approach
09:47to the last name of it all
09:48because he wants Gina
09:50to take his last name,
09:52and Gina,
09:53I think both she and her mom
09:55were a little bit shocked
09:55because, I mean,
09:56we've met Travis before.
09:57He's such a little,
09:58like, sweetie.
09:58Such a nice guy,
09:59and someone who I wouldn't,
10:02I wouldn't assume
10:03that he would be a man
10:04who would care about
10:05a woman taking his last name.
10:07But it's hard
10:08because he's so not that,
10:10I'm like,
10:10oh, that's very sweet.
10:11In a way.
10:12In a way.
10:13Right.
10:13But it's a hard layer.
10:15I will say,
10:16the hyphen is not as bad
10:17as she thinks.
10:18Really?
10:19I didn't think it was that bad.
10:20I have a hyphenated last name,
10:22and mine's not even that long.
10:24It's just Marie Real.
10:26Now, hers would be
10:28Kirshenheider Mullen,
10:28and she did mention
10:30that it would be
10:30kind of like
10:31a customer service nightmare.
10:32You could hyphenate it,
10:34maybe,
10:34but that's...
10:35You could hyphenate
10:35a 14-letter name.
10:37Yeah, that's right.
10:37Customer service nightmare.
10:39Like, I can't,
10:39I will be on the phone
10:40for the rest of my life.
10:41Why?
10:42And even Marie Real
10:44poses problems.
10:46So, for those who are considering
10:47a hyphenated last name,
10:50I also, you know...
10:51Continue to consider it
10:52because it's, like,
10:53not the easiest journey
10:54in life.
10:55I will say that,
10:56like, filling out forms.
10:57Well, sweetie,
10:57it's too late.
10:58I figured...
10:58No, I know.
10:59I learned, babe,
11:00I learned the hard way.
11:01So, I don't know
11:01what Gina's gonna do.
11:03And now, I will say, Gina,
11:04your name right now
11:05is complicated as s***.
11:07So, maybe just...
11:08Maybe just...
11:09Take Mullen?
11:09I don't know.
11:10Maybe tell the kids, like,
11:11hi, guys,
11:12Mommy doesn't want
11:12to spend hours
11:13doing the Scantrons
11:15all the time.
11:16Yeah.
11:16But I do love...
11:17I feel like...
11:18I think Travis was, like,
11:19saying in a perfect world
11:20he'd want it.
11:21He's...
11:21He just wants Gina
11:22to be happy.
11:23Yeah.
11:24Yeah, I think so.
11:25And I bet you
11:25shall keep Kirshenheider.
11:26I mean,
11:28Kirshenheider anyways.
11:29I know, Kirshenheider.
11:30For SEO purposes.
11:31That's true.
11:32I don't know
11:32Jesse Draper's
11:33changing the game.
11:34Yeah, that is true.
11:35And Jesse Draper
11:36does have a better ring
11:37to it than Jesse
11:38Nadiqara, I will say.
11:40And also because
11:40we associate Nadiqara
11:42with Jordan Nadiqara.
11:43We're talking about
11:43Mormon Wives now.
11:44Mormon Wives, I was gonna say.
11:44If you're not familiar
11:45with the Secret Lives
11:46of Mormon Wives,
11:47Jordan and Jesse broke up
11:48and then Jesse took back
11:49her old last name.
11:50Which also, though,
11:51if you're watching
11:52this Real House of Orange County,
11:53there's gonna be
11:54an OC Mormon Wives
11:57spinoff
11:57end of this year.
11:58So I'm assuming
11:59that some of the Housewives
12:00know some of the
12:02Mormon Wives
12:03in Orange County.
12:04One would have to assume.
12:05Yeah.
12:05So we shall see.
12:06But I know,
12:07I think I'm excited
12:08for the rest of the season.
12:09Yeah, I think so too.
12:10It's just good
12:11to have our girls
12:11back on screen.
12:13It felt like the break
12:14was really long.
12:15You know what I mean?
12:16It feels like it was like a,
12:17I don't know,
12:18was it just a year though?
12:20A year-ish?
12:21I think so.
12:21It's good to have them back.
12:22I honestly really miss them
12:24and I can't wait
12:24to learn more
12:25about Carmella.
12:26She seems really interesting
12:28and yeah.
12:29I mean,
12:29also with the Carmella
12:31of it all
12:32and she's very close
12:33to Jen,
12:34it seems like Jen
12:35all of a sudden
12:36doesn't care about
12:37her friendship
12:37with Heather.
12:38Yeah,
12:38because Jen's
12:39activated, yeah.
12:40I mean,
12:40she's just kind of like
12:41kind of throwing
12:42that away
12:43by being a little bit
12:44messy about
12:45the Tamra
12:46of it all.
12:47And I did just remember
12:48Vicky also shaded
12:49Heather's acting career
12:49which she always hates.
12:51Oh, yeah.
12:52Also,
12:52it's not going to be good
12:53for Vicky and Heather.
12:54But damn,
12:55that's Vicky and Jen
12:55both going after Heather
12:56this season.
12:57Yeah,
12:57I know.
12:58Poor Heather, man.
12:59But yeah,
12:59I think Jen having a buddy
13:00is kind of activating her
13:01in a different way.
13:02Yeah, right?
13:02Like she's not so precious
13:04about her relationship
13:05with Heather
13:05because she's like,
13:06I have a girl
13:07who I actually really like
13:09because maybe Jen
13:09just didn't like Heather.
13:11Yeah,
13:11well it seems like
13:12in a preview,
13:13Emily says that Heather
13:15says Jen's obsessed
13:15with her.
13:16Oh,
13:17okay.
13:18And I feel Jen's like,
13:19what?
13:20Jen's like,
13:20how is every season
13:21I'm obsessed with someone else?
13:22Right.
13:24That kind of does always happen.
13:25Because last season
13:25it was Tamra.
13:26Yeah.
13:26Her and Tamra's hair
13:27extension fight
13:27was still one of my
13:28favorite things.
13:29It was amazing.
13:30It was incredible.
13:31It was so good.
13:32It was fabulosity.
13:34These Orange County girls
13:35always bring it.
13:36So we'll be back next week
13:37to see what they dish up
13:39for us.
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