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00:00Well, present last night, which was the Bo Byram trade while we were on the ice, the 11-day power
00:04play, Team WGR.
00:05We all learned about it word of mouth, which was fun to have that experience, which we don't usually get
00:11anymore.
00:11It's usually an alert on our phone.
00:13Brian Mazurowski just jumped from down the hall to talk about this trade.
00:17How are you feeling about it?
00:19Oh, how could you not love it?
00:22Isn't that it's such a weird morning because it's like, how do you like the trade?
00:27The trade's awesome.
00:28Yeah, it's awesome.
00:29At the same time, like, the team's worse.
00:32So how many times can you say that?
00:34Like, they just made a great trade.
00:36The team's worse, so what's going to happen here?
00:39It's a weird, like, everyone's in a weird situation.
00:42Everyone loves the trade.
00:44No one knows what to do with it.
00:47Are they staying there?
00:49Are you moving it?
00:50I think you can make, you would, it would just befuddle me to see them move
00:58the fourth overall pick because it never happens.
01:01Chicago just did it.
01:03Yeah.
01:03It's like anything can happen.
01:05Right.
01:05They were the first team, though, to do it in 18 years.
01:07And they were the first team to do it for a player, really, in 25 years.
01:11Like, you got to go back to the Yashin trade in 2001 to find the last time a team just
01:15traded
01:16a top five pick for a player.
01:17Like, it does, it does not happen.
01:19But, right, like, does that mean the Sabres can't just be the next team that does it if
01:24it's going to be for a whale?
01:26That's my, that's part of my point today is I don't need to stay there.
01:31I think I'd prefer they stay there.
01:33But there would be a very short list of players that I would be thinking about being worth the
01:39fourth pick.
01:39Who's a whale?
01:41Is Matthew Nye's a whale?
01:42That's a great question.
01:44I, see, I think he is, but how do you feel about Matthew Nye's on the scene?
01:50When I look at the Sabres and how they're built right now, my biggest concern, like, would
01:56I love a Matthew Nye's?
01:58Yeah.
01:59Oh, my goodness.
01:59He'd be great.
02:00You'd go right into, right into the top line.
02:02You would go from tuck to Nye's, like, almost seamlessly.
02:05That would be amazing.
02:07But you're still left with, to me, the biggest thing is down the middle.
02:11You know, you've got Norris, who, when he's on the ice, I think is great.
02:15Behind that, you've got, like, a bunch of toddlers and Ryan McLeod, who I don't think
02:23the team...
02:23Toddlers is putting it a little strong.
02:25But I don't think the team...
02:27I mean...
02:27...believes in Ryan McLeod the same way a lot of the fan base loves McLeod.
02:32You know, he ended the year on the fourth line.
02:36I'm not feeling super confident about it down the middle.
02:40To me, if you're moving that pick, I kind of need it to be a center with all the other
02:47guys who are playing wing already.
02:49Like, if you put in Matthew Nye's, where does Josh Doan go?
02:54Where does Noah Oslin go then?
02:57Uh-huh.
02:57I mean, I think they have a million centers.
03:00It's just whether you believe any of them are actually going to be great.
03:05And that's also if Tage is going to the wing, of course, which last year didn't really have
03:09a center.
03:10I mean, last year he played center.
03:11Yeah.
03:12You don't see him as a center?
03:13I mean, I don't need him to play center.
03:15I'm just saying they have so many options.
03:17Norris, McLeod, of the three you call them toddlers, I mean, they've at least played in
03:23the league.
03:24Oslin played 60 games.
03:26Like, can I get them to, like, their elementary school kids right now?
03:29Like, they've got a taste of it.
03:31I've got Oslin, Helen Euse, and Kulik.
03:33One of those three is playing center.
03:35At least.
03:36Yeah.
03:36And then I have McLeod, and then I have Krebs, Carrick, Kozak.
03:40Pick whoever you want to center the fourth line.
03:42In my head, I have, like, that's Helen Euse.
03:45But it's not your number one or two.
03:49They would have three.
03:50The lines are interchangeable.
03:51They would also have three number two centers, I would feel like.
03:55No?
03:55Well, if Helen Euse, McLeod, and Norris are your top three centers next year, you don't
04:00think you're going to be fine doing that?
04:01I have a hard time putting that much faith in guys who I haven't seen it before.
04:06I mean, they have centers like in air quotes, I feel.
04:10Like, we've got a lot of centers.
04:12Like, guys who could play center.
04:14Noah Oslin could play center.
04:15I think positionally he could play that well.
04:17But, to me, Noah Oslin is young Josh Norris.
04:20I can't count on him yet to stay on the ice.
04:22He's never healthy.
04:24He's got the same, not the same injury history, but he's got that injury history that people
04:29love to ignore because he's young, but it's there.
04:32He's not great in the circle.
04:34So, maybe two dings against him.
04:36I feel like he's a winger this year.
04:39Yuri Kulik is, what, a big question mark this year.
04:42Like, ideally, he's a top six center.
04:47Is he going to start there?
04:49No one knows.
04:50Again, Ryan McLeod, yeah, he's a great player.
04:55I don't think they believe in him to be that middle six guy the way that a lot of other
05:01people do.
05:02Helen Hughes is the guy, to me, like, the way that that Montreal series ended.
05:07Him with Quinn and Zucker.
05:09I want to pen that line in right now.
05:11But I don't want so much on that guy's shoulders where he's played nine NHL games, and now all
05:18of a sudden it's like, hey, right behind Josh Norris, who may or may not be there, you're
05:24the guy.
05:26If your aspirations are to improve on last year, I don't feel comfortable.
05:31That is where I think your original point about this trade is right, that everyone would
05:37tell you they did amazing.
05:38That the value they got is 10 out of 10.
05:42But no, they're definitely not better than they were yesterday making this trade.
05:46And I think they should feel like they're in a Stanley Cup window.
05:50So you want to be better than last year.
05:52And how hard is it going to be for them to say at the end of this offseason, we're better
05:58than we were last year when it's likely that not just Byram, but Byram and Tuck, who were
06:04both big pieces of last season, are going to be gone.
06:08How do I even match what they did for me last year, let alone improve on it?
06:14But Byram, I mean, what are the odds they're replacing him as the No. 4 defenseman with
06:21a player that's as good as he is?
06:23You will get a different type of player.
06:24It could even be the guy they got yesterday, Louis Crevier.
06:27Is it crazy to think that that's the answer?
06:29No, it's not crazy.
06:30Paul earlier said he thinks Crevier is going to be their fourth defenseman.
06:34He's the same age as Byram, isn't he?
06:37Yeah, 25.
06:38He is Michael Kesselring from a different team.
06:44I mean, is it that fair?
06:45Like, is that outrageous to say?
06:46Big guy, right-hand shot, got a big shot, could play that role next to...
06:52The idea with that is, and the whole idea behind moving Byram, why I was comfortable
06:57with it, why it happened, I think, instead of maybe letting it play out for a little bit
07:03longer.
07:04You can feel comfortable playing a lot of guys next to Owen Power.
07:08He's going to...
07:09Owen Power's play is going to mask a lot of deficiencies of whoever his partner is.
07:15So if you can give me a couple really nice traits, like this guy, 6'8", come on, a rocket
07:23shot, he can skate, that might be enough to, like, okay, go out there with Owen Power and
07:29let's see what happens.
07:31You know, play...
07:32We're not asking what Chicago asked out of you last year.
07:36Chill out a little bit, you know, defend the front of the net, and we'll see.
07:41I don't think that's crazy to think.
07:43Your top four is not as dynamic, maybe, but...
07:46Yeah.
07:47He's a 17-minute-a-night guy in Chicago.
07:49I mean, he could be a 19-minute-a-night.
07:51Does he get to 20?
07:54I don't know.
07:55But Timmons played 19 minutes a night almost last season.
07:57Like, the idea that Crevier couldn't do that, I think he'll get the opportunity to play
08:02a bigger role than he...
08:04At least more minutes than he did in Chicago.
08:06How that goes, I mean, I think Kessler-Ring's a good example to bring up.
08:10It is a projection, and I would say that it's not impossible, and if not even, you know,
08:17is it a coin flip?
08:18That he'll give you more here in this system on a better team than he was just on.
08:23Will you see better results?
08:24I don't think that's a bad bet to make.
08:26But like Kessler-Ring, you know, he is, well, he's question mark two.
08:32It doesn't have to go well.
08:33He could show up, and he is just third-pair guy, and that could be fine, too.
08:38He's a fourth piece to the trade, third piece to the trade.
08:42I mean, I said all morning, I think the second most valuable thing in this trade was they
08:46cleared $10 million in cap space yesterday while getting the fourth overall pick.
08:50Like, it opens a lot of doors for you, but it goes again to your, what's a whale?
08:57Like, again, like, what's a whale?
08:59Matthew Nye's kind of a whale.
09:02Is Quentin Byfield a whale?
09:05I mean, is he that guy?
09:06He's whale-ish.
09:07He's whale-ish.
09:08In the middle?
09:08What's right below a whale?
09:10Seal?
09:11Dolphin?
09:13Dolphin?
09:13I don't know.
09:14I don't know.
09:14He's a dolphin?
09:15I think he's a great player, and he, I mean, if you want a center, I mean, you're getting
09:20that in him.
09:21That's what I'm looking at.
09:22Like, who's the center that's available that could fill that role?
09:28Robert Thomas.
09:29We mentioned, I feel like, 500 times this offseason, but I mean, you can continue to look
09:34at that.
09:35There's a whale.
09:36He, I would consider that.
09:38Yes.
09:40What about Hellebuck for you?
09:42That's, that is a whale, but that's a goalie, so, yeah, I don't know.
09:46I'm just, I've been down on the goalie thing.
09:49I'm more open to it than I was at the beginning.
09:52At first, I'm thinking, no, no way.
09:55I don't, I'm fine in net, personally.
09:59I'm fine with the tandem they rolled last year.
10:02I think if you manage it a little bit better in the playoffs, you still get the high-level
10:07play out of both these guys.
10:08Anyways, I'm comfortable, maybe more so than a lot of people, in net.
10:15Hellebuck, the money's not as bad now, looking at it.
10:19Now that you cleared the cap space, you think Lukanen would probably have to go the other
10:27way?
10:27Because if he's not, you're spending $13 million on goalie, and I can't imagine that.
10:32So then, you know, if you are saying, all right, well, it's Lion and it's Hellebuck that's
10:37just under 10, or just about 10.
10:39Yeah, just under 10.
10:40Lion makes like a million, million and a half.
10:42So, that's all right.
10:43And it would be cool to have Connor Hellebuck as your goalie.
10:47Like, it would be cool to not have those worries or even think about it.
10:49You know, who's going to start net?
10:51You're never thinking about it.
10:52Never, you're never thinking about it.
10:53But it would be nice to have.
10:55At the same time, like, do you want to give up?
10:58What's the asset you're giving up for Hellebuck?
11:00Well, that is where...
11:02It's certainly not number four overall.
11:04No.
11:04I guess that's where we might be a little different, because I feel like they have a surplus at
11:08center, and you might be looking...
11:09I mean, but it depends.
11:11Because you'd be trading a guy off your team, maybe you could also improve on that.
11:17But Dregger, or whoever's been talking about Hellebuck, has continued to mention, like,
11:20they want a second-line center.
11:22As a part of it.
11:23Like, sure, there'd be more.
11:24But, like, what is a second-line center to them?
11:27Is McLeod a second-line center to them?
11:28Okay, that's where we get...
11:30Because if McLeod and Lucanen are going out, and Hellebuck's coming in, and maybe you're
11:35adding pick 20 to it, does that feel like that's not enough?
11:39It almost feels like too much.
11:42A guy who's asking out, he's like...
11:45Yeah, but there would be a market for him.
11:47How old is he?
11:4760?
11:48He's 33.
11:49Goalies play until they're 40 all the time.
11:52He's good.
11:53He's got the same question mark that we have with what we have in the playoffs.
11:59That's true.
12:01Don't you think, though, you've just got to get him less games.
12:05There's a correlation in his career between when he plays 60, 65 games, he stinks in the
12:09playoffs.
12:10When he plays 50, he's fine.
12:11And can Alex Lyon give me 20 games?
12:13Yeah.
12:14Like, I can get Hellebuck down to 50 games so that he's fresh by the playoffs.
12:19Winnipeg exhausts him over these regular seasons.
12:21Yeah.
12:22And I would hope the Sabres would have a setup where they don't have to do that.
12:25I'd hope.
12:26Yeah.
12:26I guess it's how you view the players on the roster, because I look at it and say, I have
12:33my goalies.
12:33I'm fine.
12:34I'm good enough to win, I think, in net right now.
12:38Yep.
12:39I look at the center depth as being very thin with guys who I can win right now with.
12:47And if you could easily look at that the opposite way and say, well, I've got Norris, I've got
12:53McLeod, I've got Helen Use, I've got Osland or Cooley, I've got all these centers, and my
13:00goalie depth is, sure, I've got a bunch of guys, but they're not anyone I can win with.
13:05I just think the opposite way on that.
13:07I like the goalies.
13:08I don't...
13:08It's not that I don't like the centers, I just...
13:11I don't like the centers this year.
13:12I don't like them as a group, depending on that down the middle, this season.
13:19I think they're all really nice players, but again, together as a group, I don't want to go
13:26from winning a playoff round for the first time in 15 years to all of a sudden my centers are
13:32all
13:32just playing their first season in the NHL.
13:35I feel like, listening to you, the whale that you really want is Larkin.
13:40I don't know that you can get him, because he has a list, and also that might take time,
13:45because it sounds like Iserman is playing hardball for now, but Larkin is your number
13:50one center the second he steps on your roster.
13:52Does his trade requests sour you?
13:54I love the idea of Dylan Larkin, but the way...
13:58It doesn't for me, because I understand being on a team for 10 years that hasn't made the
14:04playoffs, and being like, how much time am I supposed to give you?
14:08Is am I supposed to be here my whole career while you don't figure it out?
14:12But if you're trading for Dylan Larkin, you are trading for someone to be a driver to bring
14:20your team to that next level.
14:23And it does kind of read like he'd...
14:26It's like the Kachuk thing.
14:29He's going to Florida, and now he's maybe not the driver.
14:34In Ottawa, he's expected to be the driver.
14:36Now he's moving to a place where he can be the passenger on some nights.
14:40Like, does it sound like Dylan Larkin kind of wants the same thing?
14:43Can't Larkin be more of a...
14:45I mean, I know he would be like their number one center immediately, but can't he be more
14:49of a passenger here than he just was in Detroit?
14:51The Sabres are a better roster than the Red Wings are.
14:53Yeah.
14:54But again, if I'm giving up the asset for whoever that is, I want that guy to want to be...
15:01That's why I do love the idea of Nise, even though he's not a center.
15:04Like, Nise is in Toronto, re-signed in Toronto.
15:08Like, everyone hates the scrutiny of Toronto.
15:11Like, apparently not this guy, who said he loves playing there, wants to stay there.
15:16He's just a killer to play against on the ice.
15:21The size, how he hammers people, he's...
15:25Again, he's what you want in Alex Tuck, just a little younger, a little cheaper.
15:31He would slide right in there.
15:32I do love the idea.
15:35Mm-hmm.
15:35And then you'd have, what, Doan, Nise...
15:40Who are, like, buds, by the way.
15:42They've known each other for a long time.
15:43If you have those two horses, do you feel, like, more comfortable putting Noah Oslin at center to start the
15:49year?
15:50I might.
15:50Sure. No matter who I'd put down the middle, I'd almost expect it to go well.
15:54Yeah.
15:54Right?
15:55Like, that's a scenario where I'd take one of these young guys and be like,
15:58all right, like, I've got two beasts next to you.
16:01Like, I feel a little more confident that you're not going to get run over or taken advantage of in
16:06your rookie season,
16:09your first full season.
16:10When you play Florida in a playoff series?
16:12Yeah.
16:13Down the road?
16:13Yeah.
16:13That's what you have to be worried about.
16:14I'd love to have that guy on the ice.
16:16If I'm going to meet Florida in a playoff series, Nise, and he's seven years younger than Tuck, like 23
16:22years old.
16:23Yeah, that's...
16:23I don't buy, by the way, that Toronto will actually trade him.
16:26I don't know why they're playing this game out there right now.
16:29Like, Matthews has got a foot out the door.
16:32We had Matt Larkin on from Daily Faceoff last week, and he told Chopin the Bulldog,
16:37we didn't, Chopin the Bulldog did in the afternoon, and he told them that he had heard that Matthews,
16:42like, he's good to start the season in Toronto.
16:45He's not asking out right now.
16:47But that if the season starts really poorly, that it could be over by the winter.
16:52Like, we could be talking about this before the new year.
16:55And if that guy is that close, you're going to take his, isn't that, that's his linemate,
17:03that's his winger, off his team for the fourth pick, an 18-year-old?
17:08Like, I just think that Toronto doing that right now would just feel really weird.
17:13Like, how is the fourth overall pick, what's going to, let me put it this way,
17:18what's going to help Matthews be happy and win right now and start the season well?
17:22The guy who you pick fourth or Matthew Nyes?
17:24Yeah.
17:25What does Toronto want to do, though?
17:27Like, that's the question that nobody really seems to know.
17:29Yeah.
17:30When you're looking at what you just said with Matthews, do they really want to,
17:36and I think it's been reported, like, they want to convince Matthews to stay?
17:39Okay.
17:40Right.
17:40If they really want to do that, it would be dumb to trade Matthew Nyes.
17:44Yes.
17:44But if they're convinced that he's going to leave and you have a lot of reasons
17:49and you look around the league and you can find a lot of reasons to be convinced
17:53he's going to leave, then it might be pretty enticing to be like,
17:58okay, we're getting McKenna or Stenberg or, you know, whoever any of these guys are
18:05who the heck knows.
18:08Why don't we add another guy who's the same age and possibly another first-round pick
18:13who's the same age and really get this – and, you know, maybe a prospect who's
18:17a little bit younger, bring them all in and go forward.
18:21And is that not – like, everything we know about this Chica guy from his time
18:25in Arizona, he was all about kind of gaming the cap and figuring out ways to get
18:32younger and better, and it didn't work out for him.
18:35But, right.
18:36At that point, Brian Mazurowski from WB ends in.
18:38We'll take your calls in a moment to add to this.
18:41At that point, though, if you're resigned to the fact that you think Matthews is
18:45leaving, don't you do that now?
18:48Don't you trade Matthews now?
18:50And, honestly, if I'm – maybe they just wouldn't do – maybe they would do Nyes
18:55in division and they wouldn't do Matthews in division.
18:57If I'm the Sabres and I think you're going to trade Matthews, let's just talk
19:00about Matthews.
19:01Why are we – Nyes is great, but I've got the fourth overall pick, and I've got
19:06a billion young players that you'd be interested in.
19:08I've got another first-round pick.
19:09What did Brady Kachuk just go for?
19:11I'll beat that.
19:12How much do you like Matthews?
19:13I'll do – let's do the Brady Kachuk offer plus.
19:15I mean, I – I like him a lot.
19:17He went to Germany, and I feel like he's never going to score 40 goals again.
19:22Because he went to Germany?
19:23Wait, what happened?
19:24Whatever that injury he had, he's going to see all these doctors all over the world.
19:29No one knows what's going on.
19:30Right, okay, right.
19:31He's never – he has not been the same goal scorer.
19:34Not to say he hasn't been a very good player, but you get Matthews, you're going to pay
19:39him – what's the number in, you know, two years or whatever his contract's up?
19:4316?
19:44Like, it's the Kaprizov contract.
19:46Yeah, he's going to ask a crazy number.
19:49Well, if he scores again, which then it would be a good problem to have.
19:52If he continues to score 33 goals, then you're probably not giving him 17 million a year.
19:56He makes 13 right now, so you're probably giving him – I don't have to worry about
19:59this until 2028, though.
20:00I got time.
20:01That's true.
20:01I got time.
20:02That's true.
20:02Let's just talk about him, then.
20:04That's my –
20:04Toronto.
20:05That's my sign Alex Tuck argument.
20:07Why is anybody worried about 2030?
20:09Right.
20:10That's not even a real year.
20:11When the cap's going to be like $150 million, probably.
20:14Are we even going to be here?
20:16JB in Hamburg wants to get in on this.
20:18What's up, JB?
20:19Hey, guys.
20:20Love the show.
20:21Just want to say that I think that, you know, it's not the – it's not 1985 anymore.
20:27The age of free agency and draft picks don't mean what they used to mean.
20:32You look at the Vegas Golden Knights, three-cup finals over a decade, one-cup.
20:37They use – I think over the next three years, they're using 12 of their 21 picks.
20:42They don't have a pick until the third round this year, and they're in the Stanley Cup final.
20:46So, I say to Jarmo, made a damn good deal.
20:49Trade that fourth pick if you can.
20:51Trade it right away.
20:52Because this Buffalo Sabres team has spent way too much of the last 50-whatever-plus years looking at the
21:00future.
21:01They have shot themselves in the foot focusing on the future.
21:05Today is the day.
21:06This is the year.
21:08You are one game away from the conference final.
21:10And if he makes the fourth overall pick, I think that's fantastic.
21:14But if he can deal it away, make like the Vegas Golden Knights, and deal it away.
21:19It's not 1985 anymore.
21:22This is the age of free agency.
21:24This is how it's done now.
21:25And we just got to wake up to that reality.
21:28But Jarmo was serious, and I applaud what he did.
21:30And I'll hang up and take your comments.
21:32Thanks, JB, for the call.
21:35I don't need them to trade the pick, though, just to trade the pick.
21:38It's too valuable.
21:39I kind of feel that way about 20.
21:41Like 20, get something.
21:43I'm like all in on whatever you can bring me that's going to help me right now with the 20th
21:48pick.
21:49I'm in.
21:49But four is almost that perfect sweet spot of, yeah, I could trade it.
21:54It's not number one.
21:55But at the same time, it is such a good pick.
21:58Like the list of stars that have been picked forth, like Marner and Makar and Brady Kachuk,
22:02like they're not all stars.
22:04There's Jesse Pooey-Arvey in there, too.
22:06But, like, I'm probably getting a great player.
22:10Not now, but at some point.
22:12I'm getting a great player if I make that pick.
22:16And for that, there's not a really long list I would trade it for.
22:21You're arguing against yourself in a way, saying that, because, not you, the caller.
22:29The pick is not worth, and we've seen this in the last week, the pick is not worth as much
22:35in a trade as it used to be,
22:38for whatever reason that is.
22:39I mean, that pick just went for Bo Byram.
22:42I mean, the two first-round picks and a high one, a top-ten pick went for Brady Kachuk,
22:46and they had to add in two more first-round picks.
22:49That pick might be worth more as the player that's going to be taken than it is whatever player,
22:56if the league is valuing these picks less in trades, which that's really what it appears to be right now.
23:05It doesn't seem that the league...
23:06But they are, the league itself...
23:08I don't know about the league.
23:09The people that cover the league are dunking on them.
23:11Like, they don't understand what the fourth pick was worth.
23:14So, I don't know.
23:15Like, Kyle Davidson doesn't think the pick is worth that much, but does...
23:18Do the other 30 GMs?
23:20I don't know.
23:20That'd be my question.
23:21Like, did we just find the one fool that has no idea how much the fourth overall pick is worth?
23:26Or does the league think that that's appropriate?
23:28I love the do-whatever-with-a-pick argument, too,
23:31but we are Buffalo, not Vegas, not Florida, not...
23:35Like, these teams that know they can get whatever player to waive a no-move clause,
23:40whatever free agent they want, can afford to just be like,
23:44we don't ever have to take a pick, because we can get that player in five, six years,
23:49or whenever they want out of whatever their city...
23:51We're on their four-team list.
23:53The Sabres aren't that team.
23:55So, I love the thinking.
23:56I kind of like the idea, but the reality of the situation,
24:00that's not happening in Buffalo.
24:03So, you can't be as flippant with your picks, I think,
24:06as Vegas, as Florida, as Tampa, as Nashville.
24:11Maybe Carolina's on that list now, too.
24:13Because of their replaceability.
24:16Their ability to replace guys is going to be easier.
24:19They know they're going to be able to get that guy.
24:22Yeah, I see what you mean.
24:22I still want them to act in that way.
24:25Do they have to go as far as trading all their first-round picks?
24:30I don't think that.
24:31But I'd like to see them act...
24:33Yeah, be aggressive.
24:34Do the thing we want Yarmou to do.
24:36Right.
24:36On the scale of, like, on the extreme end,
24:40one extreme end is the way Vegas and Florida operate,
24:42which is bleep them picks.
24:43And, like, we just want all the great players.
24:45And on the other end is, like, what Kevin Adams did for a few years,
24:48which was, oh, we'll let everything cook.
24:50And everything settle.
24:51We don't have to move things.
24:52We're on track.
24:53I want them to be at least in the middle,
24:56if not closer to the Florida-Vegas end of that spectrum.
25:00I don't need them to be all the way down there,
25:02but that's why I'm saying, like, I want to see them trade 20.
25:05I don't need to see them trade four.
25:07Yeah.
25:08No, I agree with you.
25:09I want to win the next year.
25:12Like, I don't really need that much forward thinking from the organization
25:16other than two to three years,
25:18and whatever else happens, we'll deal with it then.
25:22But I want the team to always want to win next year.
25:26Right.
25:27Yeah, me too.
25:28Well, thanks for popping down.
25:29Absolutely.
25:30Maybe we'll have another trade later in the week.
25:32We'll get you back in if they do something else.
25:34If they trade for Nyes tomorrow, we'll come back.
25:36We'll come back.
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