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00:00:24Thank you so much.
00:01:04Panty, it's showtime.
00:01:12Panty, you look fucking amazing.
00:01:15I know.
00:02:03The challenge with Panty is probably how laid back she is.
00:02:06Yeah.
00:02:07I am very laid back, haven't I?
00:02:09And occasionally I think Philip would prefer someone who's more of a diva.
00:02:12Because I think he gets a side sort of, I don't know, submissive kick out of handling difficult
00:02:17people.
00:02:18And I'm just not difficult.
00:02:20Give us your bits.
00:02:21What's your headlines?
00:02:22The headlines?
00:02:24How are yous?
00:02:25That was amazing.
00:02:26Let's get into a bit of a manifesto, then let's get into Pantygate.
00:02:29Ah.
00:02:30Then let's tell a Madonna story.
00:02:31Yeah.
00:02:31Then let's get into Pantygate.
00:02:33Then let's get into Sex and a Single Drag Queen.
00:02:36Then let's get into giving out about soccer.
00:02:40My job as a drag queen is to sort of commentate from the fringes.
00:02:44To stand on the outside looking in shouting abuse.
00:02:48I'm a clown.
00:02:49I'm a fool.
00:02:49I'm a court jester.
00:02:51And like the court jester of old, it is my job to sometimes say the unsayable.
00:02:56And if you have a problem with that, fucking soon.
00:02:59Which is weird because that actually happened.
00:03:04So, what I'm trying to say to you is that if you have come along here this evening
00:03:07and you are easily offended, then this is not your show.
00:03:13On the other hand, you are the kind of person who loves a joke that begins,
00:03:16a nun with Alzheimer's forgets to walk into a lesbian bar,
00:03:19then this is definitely your show and welcome!
00:03:31Hey!
00:03:33Hey!
00:03:35You look fantastic!
00:03:39Hi!
00:03:41How are you?
00:03:44How are you?
00:03:46How are you?
00:03:47How are you?
00:03:48I'm good!
00:03:52You're a celebrity, aren't you?
00:03:54I feel like I'm psyched Madonna!
00:04:01How are you?
00:04:02How are you?
00:04:03How are you?
00:04:04How are you?
00:04:04How are you?
00:04:05It's perfectly easy for someone in the gay community to listen to a drag remake a serious
00:04:09point.
00:04:10But you know, to somebody looking in from the outside, they have trouble with that because
00:04:16they just see a man dressed as a woman.
00:04:18Happy Pride, gays and innocent bystanders.
00:04:24If you want to separate the gay relationship from straight relations by, well, you can't
00:04:28have marriage, you can have something that's equivalent or even if we're exactly the same
00:04:31but had a different name, I would still be against that.
00:04:34Happy Pride, city hall!
00:04:37Where soon I intend to get married!
00:04:39Other people are labelling our relationship from the outside, you know, or judging it or
00:04:43you know, saying the quality of it.
00:04:45And unless you're in a gay relationship, fuck off!
00:04:48You have no idea what my relationship is like.
00:04:56I think sometimes when people look at me, this giant cartoon woman, they find it hard
00:05:00to imagine that I came from anywhere.
00:05:04Of course, I am from somewhere.
00:05:06I'm from a small town in County Mayo called Ballinrobe.
00:05:09Ballinrobe is your typical Irish country market town.
00:05:12It has a couple of streets, a town hall, a cattle mart and great excitement when Tesco
00:05:17came to town.
00:05:18And even though it now does have a Tesco and a traffic light, it hasn't really changed
00:05:23much since I was growing up there, a young boy called Rory in the 1970s.
00:05:38Well, I always think of Rory, he dressed up in a tutu belonging to one of the girls who
00:05:44was doing ballet, but wearing Wellington boots underneath it.
00:05:46And he's lepping around the sitting room in there, you know, that kind of thing.
00:06:13He was a lovely baby. He won a bunny baby competition. In that effect, he was a very pleasant child.
00:06:19But I remember when he was about two, he hadn't walked. And I remember bringing in the doctor.
00:06:24And he laughed at me because Rory was sitting on the floor surrounded by about 18 other children,
00:06:30our own five or six, plus the neighbors had seven, somebody else had, and he was completely surrounded.
00:06:35And he had no need to walk because everybody brought him everything he wanted.
00:06:40And then when he stood up, he stood up and walked. On the very day, he never tottered or fell.
00:06:45And when he was ready to walk, he walked. And he did just what he wanted.
00:06:49He still does.
00:06:50Yeah, exactly, yeah. He's his own man, really, isn't he?
00:07:03I think until I was 11 or 12, it was pretty idyllic.
00:07:08We had a nice house with a big garden. We were at the edge of the town.
00:07:12There was a river behind. Lots of kids in our street.
00:07:19But I guess around the age of 11 or 12, I just started to feel different than the other boys.
00:07:24I didn't really enjoy the same things that they did or in the same way.
00:07:29And it made me feel a bit like a square peg in a ballon robe-shaped hole.
00:07:34I went to boarding school and all the other boys would be horribly homesick.
00:07:38Lots of them would be crying themselves to sleep at night.
00:07:41I never was homesick for a minute.
00:07:43I was self-aware enough to know that I needed to be somewhere that wasn't ballon robe.
00:07:57Ireland is the only sovereign EEC country to still retain criminal sanctions in law against homosexuality.
00:08:03With penalties from 10 years to life imprisonment.
00:08:07David, are homosexuals sick people?
00:08:11No, indeed they're not.
00:08:12We're neither sick, ill, pathological, neurotic or any of these emotive terms that are occasionally used by people who are
00:08:19not well informed on the subject.
00:08:21To conceal their own prejudices and to allege that we are ill.
00:08:25I don't feel ill, I hope I don't look it.
00:08:27And they've now reached the state in America of regarding homophobe people.
00:08:33People who have an irrational fear or dislike of homosexuals as those who are really ill.
00:08:40Well, being the first person to come out in Ireland was a rather strange experience.
00:08:45I mean, in the beginning, nothing was said about homosexuality.
00:08:48The word wasn't mentioned.
00:08:49There was no such thing as gay or anything else.
00:08:51There was a sort of a gay scene in Dublin, but nobody was in a situation where they could come
00:08:57out publicly.
00:08:58So I was the only one.
00:09:01But it also led to the Irish Times describing me as the Irish homosexual, which was rather funny.
00:09:07You know, because it was a lot more than me, but they were just invisible.
00:09:13The law is clearly grossly unconstitutional.
00:09:17The constitution of this country claims to cherish all the children of the nation equally.
00:09:21And I can tell you from my experience, it did not cherish me as I was growing up.
00:09:25I hope that we will be rectifying that.
00:09:29Being an out gay man in the 80s felt like being a sexual outlaw.
00:09:34The same law that sent Oscar Wilde to prison.
00:09:36The same law that was responsible for countless thousands of lesbian gay men
00:09:41leaving the country throughout the 20th century to find a life in more socially liberal and accepting environments.
00:09:48That same law had the effect of creating such a level of offensive taboo around homosexuality.
00:09:55And that in itself was enormously oppressive.
00:09:59In the early hours of September the 10th last in Fairview Park in Dublin, Declan Finn was set upon by
00:10:05five men, including a 15 year old youth.
00:10:08He was savagely beaten unconscious and left mortally wounded, adding a new sordid and vicious phrase to our contemporary urban
00:10:14language, queer bashing.
00:10:18What made Declan Finn's murder so transformative was the aftermath where his five assailants were let off with suspended manslaughter
00:10:26sentences.
00:10:26And of course the public outrage that erupted in protest at the judge effectively saying that a gay man's life
00:10:32had no value.
00:10:38I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, but I didn't know I was interested in art.
00:10:42I mean, I was always drawing and doodling.
00:10:46So I thought, well, I'll go to art college.
00:10:58And I thought, I'll find queers there.
00:11:01I mean, that's where you find queers, right? Art college.
00:11:23Art college is where I met my first proper gay, Niall Sweeney, and I was lucky, I think, because we've
00:11:30remained best friends ever since.
00:11:33I thought that Niall had the whole gay thing like down.
00:11:36You know, first of all, he had an older boyfriend.
00:11:38His boyfriend managed a gay nightclub.
00:11:40Niall was doing all the graphics and stuff for this gay nightclub.
00:11:43Niall was always like totally turned out with his purple hair and, you know, whatever it was.
00:11:49So Niall and I became friends in college.
00:11:52And through Niall, I ended up going to things like nightclubs and Andy Warhol obituary parties and whatever, you know,
00:11:57those stupid stuff.
00:12:01I loved every second of it.
00:12:05I was having sex for the first time and there was all that, you know, great, young, nervous energy around
00:12:10all of that stuff.
00:12:12It wasn't just, you know, casually underground. It was properly underground.
00:12:17These things were hidden and you sort of felt like you had entered this underworld, this sort of parallel universe.
00:12:25And while you're in there, you know, dancing to whatever, the Pointer Sisters, and then upstairs or on the pavement
00:12:33just feet away, there's like regular ordinary folk going about their ordinary everyday world having no idea that beneath their
00:12:42feet there are these illegal homosexuals, you know, drinking bloody Campari and then going home with inflating each other.
00:12:49You know, it just seems so exciting to me. Half of my life has been trying to recapture that excitement.
00:13:06First time I really remember doing a proper drag performance is in college.
00:13:12I spent my last year in college designing a drag show.
00:13:23I've been three years in art college when I realised, God, I didn't want to be a graphic designer. What
00:13:27was I doing there at all?
00:13:28My last summer I went to London and I sort of got involved in going out and clubbing and drag
00:13:32queens and all that stuff.
00:13:33And that just seemed like so much more fun to me than being a graphic designer.
00:13:39I had no thoughts about becoming a drag queen. I mean, it's funny now you see all these young drag
00:13:43queens and they think that's a career choice.
00:13:45It never entered my head that anybody could make a living out of drag. I mean, I didn't know that
00:13:49anybody could.
00:13:51And if you'd said to me then that I was still going to be dressing up as a woman, I
00:13:54would have thought you were nuts.
00:14:00Grey, depressed 1980s Dublin was a difficult place to be fabulous, so I escaped to the bright lights of Tokyo.
00:14:16But I remember most are the freaks and the drags, the nuts, the gays, the noise, the smoke in the
00:14:21clubs where I made my name.
00:14:38I had never had any intentions of doing drag in Tokyo. I mean, this has never really entered my mind
00:14:43really.
00:14:43And one of the first people I meet and become mates with, you know, was also a drag queen.
00:14:54Very quickly, we were partners in crime.
00:14:59My drag name was Lerween.
00:15:02Rory had used the name Leticia, both of which are impossible for Japanese people to pronounce.
00:15:07So we'd be running around in clubs dressed in drag and no one knew what the hell we were saying
00:15:10when we said our name.
00:15:12So we said, but we need new names. And then we came up with the idea that we should have
00:15:15sort of a group name.
00:15:17The group name was Candy Panty. But immediately they started calling us Candy and Panty like separate names.
00:15:24So that just stuck.
00:15:28Let me tell you about my second husband.
00:15:31Yes.
00:15:32He used to chew gum all the time.
00:15:34So one evening, I'm sitting down watching TV and he's chewing gum and smacking and smacking that gum and driving
00:15:40me crazy.
00:15:42So eventually I take the shotgun off the wall and I fire two warning shots into his head.
00:15:49Okay.
00:15:51Let's go.
00:15:52I'm going to do ahora.
00:15:54Let's go.
00:15:56Yes.
00:16:15Okay, we're going.
00:16:16Okay.
00:16:34Literally, when we went on stage to the strains of some ABBA number, they rushed the stage
00:16:39and screamed.
00:16:41It was like a Beatles concert.
00:16:43It was really like the Beatles at Shays Stadium.
00:16:44It was hilarious.
00:16:46You couldn't hear the songs to lip sync for the screaming of the crowd.
00:16:50And then afterwards, there were all these cute 19-ish-year-old boys lined up to kiss
00:16:56us for photos.
00:16:59That was sort of a typical night out in Japan for us.
00:17:01So we meet again.
00:17:03Yes.
00:17:04Did you enjoy the show?
00:17:06Oh, it was wonderful.
00:17:07I learned loads from Angelo about how to pull off a drag look.
00:17:14What I was really doing was channeling my own influences from the drag that I'd come
00:17:19up with in Atlanta, the Lady Bunny and RuPaul, which was really taking a very old school kind
00:17:24of traditional glamour puss drag and sort of twisting it a bit and making it fun and fresh
00:17:30and ironic.
00:17:33And that was certainly something Rory took to like a fish to water, I would say.
00:17:39I always think of my life as these like two parts before that experience and after that
00:17:44experience.
00:17:46And that's when the Rory I am now started.
00:17:52Rory is, as his mother said, an exotic bird that landed on the town one day.
00:17:58Yeah, there.
00:17:59And Tibi Handron, Tibi Handron.
00:18:01Very good.
00:18:02Very good.
00:18:03I guess my understanding of Panty is definitely like something from old school cinema.
00:18:09A glamorous aunt is always a good description somehow mixed with a bit of Jessica Rabbit,
00:18:15I guess.
00:18:22You know, you created Panty visually as much as I did.
00:18:26Yeah.
00:18:27Even people who see Panty regularly, when they close their eyes and think of Panty, what
00:18:31they think of is the perfect one that Niall created rather than the flesh and blood sweating
00:18:36one that they might see at a show.
00:18:43When I came back to Dublin in the mid-90s, I found a city bursting with energy and possibilities.
00:18:48It was creative and fun.
00:18:51Homosexuality had only just been decriminalized and the gays full of a newfound confidence were
00:18:56at the forefront of all of this explosive energy.
00:18:59And Niall and I became kind of ringleaders.
00:19:02We started nightclubs without a thought as to whether they were commercially viable or
00:19:05not.
00:19:06But we weren't interested in consumers.
00:19:07We were interested in participants.
00:19:09This was nightclubbing as performance art.
00:19:23I would never have thought, oh, let's do a fetish club with rubber and leather, you know, that's
00:19:28not where I was at the time.
00:19:30But Niall, you know, was a more experienced homosexual, you know, and so I think at the
00:19:36time this was his, yeah, we'll do a panties, and I was like, okay, then.
00:19:41We thought, well, we could insert 15 foot of Harald's a panties ass.
00:19:45And I remember the first trial where we're saying, would you have like, you know, and
00:19:51then checking that they wouldn't come apart inside and we thought, you know, that was,
00:19:54I remember that actually being, what if the thread snaps?
00:19:57Yeah.
00:19:57And I just pull a thread out, and you're like a Pez dispenser.
00:20:02We are a traditional couple in many ways, but in many ways a more modern couple, and
00:20:04so we decided to not just exchange rings, we decided to exchange pearls.
00:20:08Exchanged pearls, eh?
00:20:10Exactly.
00:20:10So, Mr. Sphincter gave me the pearls before the ceremony, and I secreted them away within
00:20:15my person, and he pulled them from me.
00:20:19In full view of the entire congregation?
00:20:21Yes, that's right, Gerry.
00:20:23Right, well, one has to admit, it's a little different, isn't it?
00:21:02The idea of a panty bar was that it would have elements of a throwback to an old school
00:21:08community gay bar.
00:21:10I'm old enough to remember, pre-decriminalization and all that, when every gay bar had frosted
00:21:14windows or windows with blinds and, you know, a door down the side to get into.
00:21:20What I liked about a panty bar, it's on a corner, it has huge giant plate glass windows,
00:21:25it's on full view.
00:21:27It's a statement in the street, and that's what a gay bar should be now.
00:21:32I don't think I can help you.
00:21:35You can't help me.
00:21:37I'm the one that's helping you.
00:21:40You want me to wash my hands of the whole thing?
00:21:41Call the sheriff?
00:21:42Is that what you want?
00:21:45Well, all right then.
00:21:53There's nothing like working with somebody who's thinking faster than anyone else in the
00:21:57room to learn how to do something well, because, you know, when you're on stage with somebody
00:22:03like that, you have to keep up.
00:22:07Don't do as I tell you, and if I tell you to lie, you'll do that too.
00:22:13I'm never going to suffer for you again.
00:22:17Not ever.
00:22:19Do you understand?
00:22:27Women are still seen as sort of the weaker sex and all that.
00:22:30And in some ways, a woman dressed as a man, people somehow see that the woman has in a
00:22:34weird way sort of empowered herself, you know, by taking on this masculine form.
00:22:39But, you know, a man dressed as a woman is seen to have sort of weakened or demeaned himself.
00:22:54You know, when you're a gay boy growing up in the countryside, it was being called out
00:22:58as effeminate that was frightening because we were always told that effeminacy was weakness.
00:23:03I actually saw great drag queens and I saw Panty perform and, you know, I was, I don't
00:23:07know what age I was, but you see that what they do is they take all the fears of effeminacy
00:23:11you have and they turn it back on you in a performative sense as strength.
00:23:16And you go, yes, yes, that is correct.
00:23:21That effeminacy is not weakness.
00:23:23It's actually strength.
00:23:24And it's the thing inside you that you have got to celebrate.
00:23:28And so, sissy power.
00:23:39In many ways, I would argue that the drag queen is the ultimate expression of the theatrical
00:23:45arts.
00:23:45She is the director, the script writer, the makeup artist, the costume designer, the producer,
00:23:50and the actress in the leading role of a production of her own life.
00:23:54You know, when an actor steps off the stage, well, he's just a waiter.
00:23:58But a drag queen is never off the stage.
00:24:00She carries the stage with her and it amplifies her every gesture.
00:24:04I had worked as an actor for many years and I just started to write and direct for theatre.
00:24:08And I had made one show and I said, you know, Panty, will you make a show with me in
00:24:13the theatre?
00:24:13And, you know, the abridged version of what she said is, who the fuck are you?
00:24:19But there was something in that moment where she thought, I'll take a chance.
00:24:23So in that first show, we played to 60 people a night for five shows.
00:24:28That was 2007.
00:24:29And then over those years, I think we made about four or five shows.
00:24:33We've toured all the shows to Australia.
00:24:35We've been to the UK, America.
00:24:39Philly knows my voice better than anybody else.
00:24:42In a way, he's like an objective me.
00:24:45I'm always worried that, you know, he's going to write the world's greatest, you know, musical or whatever it is.
00:24:50And he'll be gone for two years and I'll just be sitting here doing nothing.
00:25:01In 1995, myself and Niall and our friend Trish Brennan were approached by the Dublin AIDS Alliance
00:25:07and asked if we would produce the Alternative Miss Ireland as a fundraiser for HIV charities.
00:25:13And we did and we've been doing it ever since.
00:25:18Yeah, yes.
00:25:22Well, these are detachable cuffs and collars which I'm going to make a decision on when I'm all painted up
00:25:27and all.
00:25:28And this is for practical purposes that I'll get to wear it afterwards because that actually comes with, you know,
00:25:40a huge flowing skirt for evening wear.
00:25:47But sometimes for Alternative Miss Ireland, I get these huge big gowns and I never get to wear them again
00:25:52because when do I ever get to wear these things?
00:25:54It may be a pride or something.
00:25:56This stupid gag makes me laugh every time.
00:26:00Falsies.
00:26:00For that glamour look.
00:26:04It's so stupid.
00:26:08It's the last one this year for no big drama.
00:26:11But 18 years is a long time to do anything, isn't it?
00:26:15We laugh and say that, oh, she's all grown up, she's a woman now.
00:26:20Something feels right about finishing now.
00:26:23It's good to finish, isn't it, when it's still really strong
00:26:26and everybody's loving it and everything.
00:26:28I have the running order that you're all coming out in.
00:26:31First person out is going to be Miss Madonna Lucia.
00:26:36Two is Alexandra Burka.
00:26:39Three, Big Chief Random Willy Girl.
00:26:43Four, Mr. Donkey.
00:26:44Mr. James Foster, James Lunaision.
00:26:46She's not me.
00:26:53If you want to have two sexual uniforms...
00:26:57We jokingly call it a gay Christmas, but it does feel like that.
00:27:01Lots of our gay family comes to Dublin for it every year.
00:27:05My biological family gathers at Christmas but my logical family gathers for gay Christmas.
00:27:10It's going to be louder like that.
00:27:16Hi!
00:27:17How y'all doing?
00:27:21Good evening, hello, and welcome to this evening of glamour rooted in despair.
00:27:27Welcoming to the HIV of beauty pageants.
00:27:31The older gays got it years ago.
00:27:34The drug addicts aren't really sure how they got it, but they're pretty sure they had a good time.
00:27:37The younger gays only stumbled across it recently when they should have known better.
00:27:41And the hemophiliacs are up in the balcony thinking, what the fuck are we doing here?
00:27:46But the thing that I am going to miss most is every year working with this really incredible bunch of
00:27:51people.
00:27:52And so I really want to say on my behalf and on behalf of the whole of the Alternative Mizarin
00:27:56family
00:27:57to the rest of the Alternative Mizarin family, thanks a fucking million.
00:28:01It's been an honor and a privilege.
00:28:20I can't believe I haven't had a feeling in about 15 years, and now I'm having one in fucking public.
00:28:25And so the time has come to raise the roof and raise the curtain of this,
00:28:31the heel-thicken, steak-managing, roller-coaster, and joggeride known as
00:28:34The Alternative Mizarin 2012!
00:28:51The Alternative Mizarin has very much reflected the growth of Ireland's gay community.
00:28:59It started just after decriminalization, and as the gay community and gay scene here grew
00:29:06and became more confident and more above ground, so to speak.
00:29:11It's sort of a mirror of the gay community in some ways.
00:29:15And I think it's a mirror of all the good things about the gay community.
00:29:20It's actually something I'm really proud to have been involved in.
00:29:31When I got my HIV diagnosis, it probably seemed stupid, but it was a total shock.
00:29:40I was not expecting it.
00:29:44I was acutely aware of what it all meant, because I'd been to AIDS funerals, I knew people,
00:29:49you know, I was of the age where it was everywhere.
00:29:53And I do remember going outside, you know, and it was just a gorgeous, lovely day.
00:29:59And everyone's wandering around, and they're going to the shops,
00:30:02and whatever it is they're doing, like, ordinary things.
00:30:05And I was really, I was fucking furious is what I was.
00:30:09I was furious that everyone was just like, it's an ordinary day.
00:30:15And it fucking wasn't an ordinary day.
00:30:21I was actually with Rory when he found out he was HIV positive.
00:30:26I mean, it feels now like it was just his other world, you know, because at that time, that was
00:30:30the end.
00:30:31There was no point talking about it in some way.
00:30:33He just had to get on with that.
00:30:35And I think that's kind of a Rory trait.
00:30:39I mean, he will actually now say, you know, well, I made my AIDS-y bed, and now I have
00:30:43to lie in it.
00:30:45Good night! Thank you so much!
00:30:51Being positive for HIV was worrying, you know, but I had all this faith that something would turn up.
00:30:58And I had great faith.
00:31:01And I just, we have a Sacred Heart picture down there that somebody gave us after we came into the
00:31:06house,
00:31:06and it's down at the, on the wall opposite, and it's in the bed.
00:31:09And I just say, you know, I place all my trust in you.
00:31:12It's over to you.
00:31:14And thanks, Blue Coddies.
00:31:19Thank God that's over.
00:31:24We'd be nothing without you!
00:31:29Rory's got two things going on.
00:31:31He's got both the dressing up as a cartoon, pixelated lady, and the HIV at the same time.
00:31:38So, what do you say on that first date?
00:31:40You know?
00:31:41Caught in!
00:31:43If you say, hey, how about we go out on a date next Friday?
00:31:47Oh, and by the way, I'm HIV positive.
00:31:49The chances are, you won't be going out on a date next Friday.
00:31:53It is literally the only thing, really, that bothers me about it, is that horrible thing.
00:31:59About telling somebody, yeah, it's been a nightmare for my love life.
00:32:07Yeah, and you tell them.
00:32:10And then how are they going to react?
00:32:11It's like a constant coming out, that's what it is.
00:32:14You're coming out to people.
00:32:15It has that same feeling, you have to tell them this big thing.
00:32:19And of course, there's a bit of that about the drag, too.
00:32:20So, you know, if I meet a guy who doesn't know, you know, who I am, what I do for
00:32:25a living,
00:32:27sometimes there's a feeling about that.
00:32:28I don't know, God, I'm going to tell them I'm a drag queen.
00:32:31There's a bit of that with the drag, but obviously the idea I think is a much bigger.
00:32:34And it's just that you have that sort of feeling that you had long ago about coming out to somebody.
00:32:46I don't think that there's any gay person in Ireland who hasn't experienced homophobia in its most vague form.
00:32:52It's there all the time.
00:32:53You know, the fact that we can't even avail of equal marriage is homophobic in its very essence,
00:32:58because what it's saying is gay people and straight people are different.
00:33:04There are other shades of it.
00:33:06There is violence.
00:33:09I have been with Rory walking down the street when I've been punched in the face.
00:33:15I don't speak about it often because, to me, I wasn't surprised.
00:33:19I was surprised by the event.
00:33:20I wasn't surprised that I live in a society where that happens to gay people,
00:33:24because I've seen it before and before and before.
00:33:26The idea of public intimacy has been robbed from every homosexual, I think.
00:33:31And what it comes down to in the end is that you suddenly might make a decision,
00:33:35yes, I'm going to hold my boyfriend's hand in public.
00:33:37But I'm not doing it because of the intimacy of the moment.
00:33:40I'm doing it because I feel like I'm going to not be afraid.
00:33:43And it becomes a statement.
00:33:44And actually, it becomes the antithesis of what you wanted it to be in the first place.
00:33:48So that is homophobia.
00:33:57Tonight, we are delighted to welcome to the stage Ireland's most fabulous drag queen
00:34:02and famous activist, Pantipo.
00:34:18Have any of you ever been standing at a pedestrian crossing
00:34:23when a car goes by and in it are a bunch of lads.
00:34:27And they lean out the window as they go by and shout,
00:34:31Fag!
00:34:31And throw a milk carton at you.
00:34:34Now, it doesn't really hurt.
00:34:36I mean, after all, it's just a wet carton.
00:34:38And in many ways, they're right.
00:34:40I am a fag.
00:34:42So it doesn't hurt.
00:34:44But it feels oppressive.
00:34:47And when it really does hurt, it's afterwards.
00:34:50Because it's afterwards that then I wonder and worry and obsess over
00:34:55what was it about me?
00:34:58I mean, what did they see in me?
00:34:59What was it that gave me away?
00:35:05And I hate myself for wondering that.
00:35:08It feels oppressive.
00:35:09And the next time that I'm standing at a pedestrian crossing,
00:35:13I hate myself for it.
00:35:14But I check myself to see what is it about me that gives the gay away.
00:35:19And I check myself to make sure that I'm not doing it this time.
00:35:39Every single person in this audience has a cousin or a neighbor
00:35:42or the guy that you work with who's a flaming queen.
00:35:45I mean, you all know one.
00:35:46And it's very hard to hold prejudices against people
00:35:49when you actually know those people.
00:35:50And Ireland, because it's such a small communities grouped together,
00:35:54everybody knows the local gay.
00:35:55And maybe 20 years ago, it was okay to be really mean about him.
00:35:59But nowadays, it's just not okay to be really mean about him.
00:36:02If you are going to argue that gay people need to be treated
00:36:05in any way differently than everybody else
00:36:08or should be in any way less or their relationships are in any way less,
00:36:11then I'm sorry.
00:36:19After what I thought was a pretty innocuous appearance on a television show,
00:36:24all sorts of shit has hit the pan.
00:36:27I am being threatened with legal action by five different people,
00:36:32and so is RTE.
00:36:34RTE's managing director of television has said the broadcaster
00:36:37paid a total of 85,000 euro in a financial settlement
00:36:41following a recent edition of the Saturday Night Show.
00:36:45Following threats of legal action,
00:36:46RTE apologised and a financial settlement was made,
00:36:49now known to have been 85,000 euro to journalist John Waters
00:36:52and to members of the conservative Christian group,
00:36:55the Iona Institute.
00:36:56The apology and settlement became the subject of heated public debate.
00:37:002,000 people took part in a protest in Dublin's city centre at the weekend.
00:37:03I thought, you know, I was living in a society
00:37:05where this stuff isn't acceptable anymore.
00:37:07But yet, when people challenge people on these issues,
00:37:10and that's what Rory O'Neill did on the Saturday Night Show.
00:37:13He called it what it is.
00:37:15RTE got it wrong,
00:37:16and everybody in the public knows they got it wrong,
00:37:18and RTE need to come out and let us know that they got it wrong.
00:37:21Otherwise, there will not be confidence in our national broadcaster
00:37:24to mediate any debate with confidence,
00:37:26particularly around issues that affect my life
00:37:28and the people who love me
00:37:30and love all the other people
00:37:31who aren't treated properly in this society.
00:37:33We must not allow ourselves to be bullied and silenced
00:37:37because this is all it is.
00:37:39This is bullying.
00:37:39These are the people who are always complaining
00:37:41about being silenced.
00:37:43When have they ever been silenced?
00:37:45I don't care if Candy wears a tutu,
00:37:49if he wears a ballet skirt.
00:37:53He's a fantastically glamorous human being
00:37:56who also happens to be intellectually brilliant
00:38:02and morally courageous.
00:38:06It turns out that all the rest of the mainstream media
00:38:08are absolutely terrified to report on it
00:38:10because they're also terrified of these stupid solicitor's letters.
00:38:13I mean, it turns out that you can cower the whole media industry
00:38:15in this country by a simple solicitor's letter.
00:38:18And for the last three weeks,
00:38:20I have been lectured to by heterosexual people
00:38:25about what homophobia is
00:38:27and about who is allowed to identify it.
00:38:30Straight people have lined up,
00:38:32ministers, senators, barristers, journalists,
00:38:37have lined up to tell me what homophobia is
00:38:40and to tell me what I am allowed to feel oppressed by.
00:38:44People who have never experienced homophobia in their lives,
00:38:47people who have never checked themselves at a pedestrian crossing,
00:38:51have told me that unless I am being thrown into prison
00:38:56or herded onto a Catholic truck,
00:38:57then it is not homophobia.
00:38:59And that feels oppressive.
00:39:02I do, it is true, believe
00:39:04that almost all of you are probably homophobes.
00:39:08But I'm a homophobe.
00:39:10I mean, it would be incredible if we weren't.
00:39:13I mean, to grow up in a society
00:39:15that is overwhelmingly and stiflingly homophobic
00:39:18and to somehow escape unscathed would be miraculous.
00:39:23So I don't hate you because you're a homophobe.
00:39:26I actually admire you.
00:39:28I admire you because most of you are only a bit homophobic.
00:39:32And to be honest, considering the circumstances,
00:39:34that is pretty good going.
00:39:36But I do sometimes hate myself.
00:39:40I hate myself because I fucking checked myself
00:39:44when standing at pedestrian crossings.
00:39:47And sometimes I hate you for doing that to me.
00:39:52But not right now.
00:39:54Right now, I like you all very much
00:39:57for giving me a few moments of your time.
00:40:00And for that, I thank you.
00:40:29What the fuck just happened?
00:40:31I mean, what the fuck just happened?
00:40:34How did this happen?
00:40:36It's nuts.
00:40:38Nuts.
00:40:39Nuts.
00:40:41The story was becoming bigger and gathering its own steam anyway.
00:40:45But I think from my personal point of view,
00:40:47the speech just changed absolutely everything.
00:40:54You know, and I don't want people to get the impression that being gay means that,
00:40:58you know, every day somebody's throwing stuff at you from a car
00:41:00or, you know, that you're constantly unhappy about it.
00:41:02It's not that.
00:41:03It's just that there are these constant, small psychic nicks, these little psychic cuts.
00:41:38You know, I wish I could just not care.
00:41:39You're not a heterophobe, are you?
00:41:41No, I love heterosexual people.
00:41:43If there weren't heterosexual people, I wouldn't have boys to fancy.
00:41:47Okay.
00:41:48Patti Bliss, we'll leave it there.
00:41:49Thank you very much.
00:41:49Thank you so much.
00:42:05Hi.
00:42:06How are you?
00:42:06I'm good.
00:42:07How are you?
00:42:07Lovely to see you.
00:42:07Welcome back.
00:42:08One of the reasons I insisted on doing this interview as Patti and not as Rory
00:42:11was to kind of draw a line under all of that.
00:42:14I mean, it was only a bizarre incident that caused trouble the last time,
00:42:17so it's hardly ever going to happen again, is it?
00:42:20He was on his own the last time, so we want to be here for him.
00:42:24If it all goes belly up again.
00:42:25By the power of big hair.
00:42:29Something else you want from me?
00:42:30Last time I was on here, I was a non-smoker, and now I'm smoking again.
00:42:39I have to consider what I say publicly much more than I would have in the past,
00:42:43and that's actually a little awkward when you're a drag queen entertainer,
00:42:47because part of what I do is being able to say things,
00:42:50and sometimes in a light-hearted way or whatever.
00:42:53Let's do it.
00:43:06Hi, Brendan.
00:43:07Hi.
00:43:07How are you?
00:43:08I'm good.
00:43:09It feels like it's only been five lawyers since I saw you last.
00:43:13Yes, when you and I get together,
00:43:15it can be a wild, wild night, Panty.
00:43:16But let's keep it country tonight.
00:43:22I don't want to start over considering everything
00:43:24I say because I am an entertainer,
00:43:27and I am a drag queen, and that is part of what I do.
00:43:32So yeah, I've had to make a conscious decision
00:43:34not to think too hard about that or to worry too much
00:43:38about that.
00:43:39If I upset a few people along the way, well,
00:43:41it's going to happen.
00:43:44Thanks, Brendan.
00:43:47Not at all, thank you.
00:43:48Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:43:49Yeah, you're all good.
00:43:50Yeah.
00:43:50Thank you very much.
00:43:52Very nicely handled is what I would say.
00:44:04We're off to the People of the Year Awards,
00:44:08which is why I'm dressed like a Disney villain.
00:44:14When you even think of the idea of the leader of the country
00:44:20going into a gay bar for a pint with their LGBT wing or whatever,
00:44:25that's a massive change.
00:44:26just a couple of years ago, there's absolutely no way the leader of this country would have,
00:44:32you know, gone into a gay bar and, you know, hung out.
00:44:36And if the new attitude is a picture opportunity in a gay bar is a way to court votes?
00:44:42I'm all for it.
00:44:44Like, people were complaining, he's just looking for the pink vote.
00:44:47Thank God he's looking for the pink vote.
00:44:50You know, there was a time when the only vote they wanted was the bloody church vote.
00:44:53Oh, I see, my sister's there.
00:44:56How are you?
00:44:58Good.
00:44:59Hi, hi.
00:45:01It is, yes.
00:45:13I know for my parents it was upsetting, especially in their early part.
00:45:21But then I think after this noble call speech and when it sort of turned around,
00:45:26then it became something totally different and I think they became very proud about it.
00:45:32They've been really good to me.
00:45:34I haven't always brought easy things to them from gayness to HIV to whatever.
00:45:45And, yeah.
00:45:47It was nice to bring something nice to them, even though in the beginning it wasn't,
00:45:51but it turned into something nice to them.
00:45:59Good luck.
00:46:05For the simple yet beautiful thing of being herself and himself,
00:46:11this award goes most deservedly to the wonderful Panty Bliss.
00:46:15Do come up.
00:46:37Congratulations.
00:46:38Congratulations.
00:46:39Mwah.
00:46:40What does this award mean to you?
00:46:41Can I just say, oh my God, Stephen Fry.
00:46:57I would like to remind you that anybody can get married in this country except you.
00:47:04Any asshole can get married.
00:47:07Any dumbfuck soccer hooligan can get married.
00:47:11Any gay basher on Georgia Street at 4am can get married.
00:47:16Any fascist, any murderer, any sex offender can get married.
00:47:21But you cannot.
00:47:26Because, oh my God, let the gays get married and the sky will fall down.
00:47:33You should be angry about that.
00:47:35Get angry about that.
00:47:36Be angry about that.
00:47:38Get your righteous anger up about that because it is a righteous anger and channel that anger
00:47:42to do something about it.
00:47:44Get behind the campaign.
00:47:46Do your bit.
00:47:50The masses of people turned around and said, we want Panty.
00:47:55We want Panty to go out and be an ambassador.
00:47:59And that was just magical.
00:48:00I mean, I think apart from anything else, what that time did, apart from start loads of conversations
00:48:05with straight people about homophobia, was that it gave the gays a confidence that all
00:48:13of a sudden they could talk about these issues at the dinner table with their parents.
00:48:16And all of a sudden one of their people, like their person Panty, was on front page newspapers
00:48:22and was a talking head on international news programs.
00:48:26You know, that means a lot.
00:48:32The last step is full access to equal marriage and parenting rights.
00:48:36You know, those are the last steps and they are about to be tackled now.
00:48:39We're going to be having a referendum and gay marriage.
00:48:41So it's going to be unpleasant and this is sort of the final fight.
00:48:44When do we want this? Now!
00:48:46What do we want? Equal rights!
00:48:48When do we want this? Now!
00:48:49What do we want?
00:48:50May 2015.
00:48:52Ireland.
00:48:53Voting on marriage equality.
00:48:55To basically insert into our constitution a line that people can get married regardless of their sex.
00:49:06Ireland could potentially become the first country in the world to pass marriage equality by a popular vote.
00:49:15People have a sense that we are on the cusp of significant change that goes way beyond just simply giving
00:49:21marriage rights to gay people.
00:49:23Bring them all up again, guys!
00:49:24This could be the domino effect that the world has been waiting for in terms of LGBT rights.
00:49:28Because if Ireland can buy a popular vote, bring marriage equality into law, then who the hell else can do
00:49:36it?
00:49:36It's time we ended tolerance for gay, lesbian and bisexual people in Ireland.
00:49:44Because tolerance is what we've had for the last maybe 20 years.
00:49:49And tolerance is about saying, go and play by yourselves but don't bother the rest of us.
00:49:56Tolerance is about saying that yes, you can be different but don't expect us to recognise that you are equal.
00:50:04And really it is time, in fact, that we ended that tolerance and replaced it with something else, which is
00:50:10citizenship.
00:50:25Symbolically, it's the closest the country will give us to an apology for the hurt and suffering and the alienation
00:50:33and the marginalisation that forced people, friends of mine and others to live miserable, shitty lives.
00:50:55We are two weeks roughly away from the marriage equality referendum.
00:51:01It feels like it's been coming for a long time.
00:51:05But it is sort of depressing, whether it's hanging on a lamppost, on a poster, or whether it's on your
00:51:11radio or your TV.
00:51:12There's this constant stream of people characterising you in a particular way.
00:51:19And when I say you, I mean just all gay people.
00:51:21You have no right to say to anyone if you can't do this.
00:51:24Oh, well thank you very much. Good, thank you so much. Thank you.
00:51:28Every day I hear from somebody, oh, somebody called me a queer in the street yesterday.
00:51:32And that wasn't every day before.
00:51:35Whereas now, because it's in the ether, it's in the atmosphere, there's this sort of, you know, bitterness, which I'm
00:51:42finding wearing and tiring.
00:51:46And it is bizarre to think you have to knock on strangers' doors and they come to the door and
00:51:54you have to essentially beg them to allow you the same respect and rights as everybody else.
00:52:05We are expected to go around asking people to okay us.
00:52:12Who else has had to do that?
00:52:13I don't know if you had any questions or...
00:52:16Are you okay? Would you like a leaflet?
00:52:17Thank you so much. Thank you.
00:52:20If the referendum doesn't pass, it'll be crushing.
00:52:24Because the people will have spoken and they will have said, actually, no.
00:52:29That there's a limit to our acceptance of you.
00:52:32There's a limit to our respect for you.
00:52:34And you've reached that limit.
00:52:37And actually, we're not okay with you.
00:52:40And actually, yeah, we don't actually think you're the same as us.
00:52:44And I don't think you should be a fallen equal citizen.
00:52:48People are going to take it that personally.
00:52:52Because it is that personal.
00:52:58After months of campaigning and 15 hours of voting yesterday, the moment has arrived.
00:53:02Ireland's made history by putting the issue of marriage equality to a popular vote.
00:53:06Ballot boxes are being opened around now as counting of votes will soon begin in referendum.
00:53:11You know, in a matter of hours, whether or not Ireland's made history to become the first country in the
00:53:16world to vote for marriage equality.
00:53:18Counting, it's all.
00:53:23I agree with Daniel O'Connell, the great liberator, when some mean-minded people within the Protestant descendancy
00:53:30suggested that giving rights to Roman Catholics would diminish their rights.
00:53:35O'Connell made the point that human dignity and freedom are not finite resources.
00:53:39That the more you pass them out, the less you have for yourself.
00:53:42In fact, the more you pass them out, the more enhanced your liberty and dignity are.
00:53:49Oh, how about it?
00:53:51It's decades of work.
00:53:53I only wish I was 21 rather than 71.
00:53:57Ireland appears to be on course to make history by becoming the first country to approve same-sex marriage by
00:54:02time.
00:54:02But within minutes of boxes being opened around the country at 9 o'clock this morning, the ties told one
00:54:07thing.
00:54:08Ireland had given equal marriage a resounding yes.
00:54:11Congratulations to you and all your hard work.
00:54:14It's an amazing day for all of us.
00:54:16You've been through your head a lot for so long.
00:54:18You caused the national debate last year that didn't have to be had this year because of you.
00:54:22Oh, that's not really true, but times really well.
00:54:24I was talking essentially.
00:54:25Keep working.
00:54:26Oh, I'm working.
00:54:28Well done.
00:54:29Yes!
00:54:50Thank God I look fucking amazing.
00:55:11Thank you so much.
00:55:21I think the future for young LGBT people is incredible now in this country.
00:55:25That are growing up in a country which absolutely on every level treats its LGBT citizens exactly the same as
00:55:31everybody else.
00:55:32They'll be growing up on a level playing field and they've never had that before.
00:55:35We've never had that before.
00:55:36And this actually has not been a three month or four month campaign.
00:55:39It's been a 40 year campaign and it's the epitome of a grassroots campaign.
00:55:43It started 30, 40 years ago when a tiny number of really brave men and women stood up and said
00:55:47they had nothing to be ashamed of.
00:55:48And four years later, the country agreed.
00:55:52We have nothing to be ashamed of. We're the same as everybody else.
00:56:00What a day!
00:56:01Congratulations!
00:56:05Hey there!
00:56:07How are you?
00:56:10How are you?
00:56:12How are you?
00:56:15Hi!
00:56:20I'm me!
00:56:47Look at this this is what I'd like to see
00:56:52more makeup than I'm wearing we waited 39 years for this my partner and I
00:56:57congratulations enjoy your married life please which is this your partner how
00:57:01long have you been together 39 years 40 years next year 40 years you look
00:57:06amazing on us yeah I'm sure you did you lesbians and your good skin it's all
00:57:12that hill walking I are chicken making the efforts today oh yeah well done no
00:57:34thank you okay let's have a picture with Aeon get Joan in here Joan come on over Joan
00:57:56it feels incredible today I couldn't feel any better it's thrilling have you ever
00:58:00felt happier I have yeah but I yeah a few times I found one it's not a husband I'm
00:58:09looking for it's a lesbian lover because now we can go anyway of course I will I
00:58:18think this would you know this is one day of the year where I'm allowed and we'll
00:58:23just be I'm having a fun time and partying hard look at this John Lyons
00:58:30what's your message to the people that voted no and that that I think I
00:58:35also believe that in time they'll understand that their fears were you
00:58:38know unfounded and that they'll look back eventually and think actually yes
00:58:42today is a good day and then yeah do you forgive people for voting no I don't
00:58:47have to forgive them they voted no out of their own concerns of their own
00:58:50honestly held concerns but I think that those concerns were unfounded and I hope
00:58:54that in time that they'll come to agree with me on that
00:59:04can I just say before the official result comes out I'd like to say thank you to
00:59:10everybody for your hard work
00:59:11it's been amazing
00:59:13it's been amazing
00:59:15it's been amazing
00:59:15thank you so much
00:59:16thank you
00:59:17thank you
00:59:35nice job
00:59:38nice job
00:59:49majority of votes in favor of the proposal 467,307
01:00:16this guy didn't fall in everyone's okay and that was an amazing day
01:00:37if no had won there would have been no dancing in the streets there would have been
01:00:42no outpourings of joy and love and hugging and tears and kissing and cheering and you know because
01:00:50nothing would have changed it would have just been exactly the same as it had been the day before
01:00:57because the no argument was an intellectual argument it wasn't about changing lives for the better or anything
01:01:04it was just all intellectual arguments about what kind of society they wanted to see reflected in the dry piece
01:01:12of paper of the Constitution
01:01:14for us it was about our lives and that's why we won because people recognize that lives trump dry intellectual
01:01:24arguments every time
01:01:26for the day
01:01:26and that's why we won't have to be the same as it was for the same thing by ourselves
01:01:38it was just all about the time
01:01:39it was just a little bit of a guy
01:01:40but that was a little bit of a person
01:01:47that was asking for the whole thing
01:01:49is that you might be like, you know, there's a little bit of an issue
01:02:11You could easily have taught you in the campaign that this was all just about changing a law or whatever.
01:02:16But actually, the last few days, probably that's four days after the result or something,
01:02:21every time I walk through town, I've seen gay couples holding hands or, you know,
01:02:26canoodling outside a restaurant just like everybody else would.
01:02:29And I wasn't expecting that.
01:02:31And I don't know how long that will last.
01:02:32But at the moment, there is this feeling that it really has all changed.
01:02:38And, you know, gay people now, certainly in Dublin at the moment, feel different.
01:02:45And they are expressing that they feel different by just acting like everybody else.
01:03:09My relationship at Ballinrobe has always been complicated.
01:03:13You know, that sense of not quite fitting in became more pronounced over the years.
01:03:18The distance became greater between me and the town.
01:03:42I'm not going to stand up in a marquee, doll and roll, with Mrs. Spheric on a plastic chair in
01:03:48the front row,
01:03:48and do stories about tranny chasers or the usual stuff.
01:03:52I'm not.
01:03:53The show should essentially only be for your mother.
01:03:56Like, you're arriving in your mother's living room, essentially, and doing a show for all of her friends.
01:04:01To hit them with a million AIDS jokes is a bit...
01:04:04I think, yeah.
01:04:07Like, I just keep coming back to, you know, you're just doing the show for your mother.
01:04:12Okay.
01:04:12So my mother wouldn't want to be all the AIDS jokes.
01:04:17And also, pressure to the new panty goes into, like, anal fissures.
01:04:24I'm not telling you that story.
01:04:27No.
01:04:31I just feel like it's going to feel like a big house party.
01:04:33Yeah.
01:04:33And they're going to want, you know, the kind of entertainment that rural Ireland is used to,
01:04:38as people going around to the tables and talking.
01:04:39And I think that, like, well, you've got that.
01:04:42That's part of your thing.
01:04:43Yeah.
01:04:44So.
01:04:50No, I'm not doing...
01:04:51Yes, I kind of thought that.
01:04:52The show is going to be massaged for a local audience.
01:04:55For your eight-year-old.
01:04:58I'm putting in a joke about Cox Jennings.
01:05:02And he's leaving town immediately afterwards.
01:05:05I would think everybody is looking forward to tonight's performance.
01:05:10I've met even some this morning and they're all wishing us good luck and they'll be down and all this
01:05:15kind of stuff.
01:05:16And the people in the street especially, they're very proud in Abbey Street.
01:05:19And they're proud of Rory, I think.
01:05:22They're looking forward to this anyway.
01:05:26And we're all a bit nervous and I think he is himself.
01:05:38I am sitting in my parents' old bedroom.
01:05:43When I was a kid, this is my parents' room.
01:05:45And my mother would get ready here.
01:05:47And you'd smell the perfume and she'd be sitting here and I'd be watching her.
01:05:49And now, I'm sitting at this dressing table in this bedroom, dressing up as a giant cartoon woman.
01:06:02I am the gayest thing in the world.
01:06:03I mean, I am the gayest thing in the world.
01:06:06And the whole reason I felt uncomfortable, even before I knew it was the reason, but it was because I
01:06:11was the gay kid.
01:06:12And now, essentially, my gayness is being celebrated in the town that I felt weird being the gay in.
01:06:19And, like, who could have imagined that?
01:06:25But the very thing that made me feel weird and uncomfortable and, like, there wasn't a place for me here,
01:06:32is the very thing that the whole town is now about to celebrate in a fucking marquee that they've put
01:06:38up in the car park of the local tyre business.
01:06:43It's nuts.
01:06:44I thought we'd all be sitting around in the kitchen without having a drink of mayo, too, with stress like
01:06:48jangling.
01:06:51Yeah, they're not used to, kind of, uh, queens.
01:06:59Unless you've been that gay boy in a small town, I don't think you can understand what it is.
01:07:16It's kind of awesome, isn't it?
01:07:25Yeah, there you go.
01:07:27There you go.
01:07:29There you go.
01:07:29Just you're the big one.
01:07:32You've done far to go.
01:07:51And now, please give it up for your national treasure, his party!
01:08:23Oh, my God!
01:08:36Now, I'm going to be really honest with you before we get started, I'm crapping it.
01:08:47It's true to say that, while I breathed life into Panty, she breathed more life into me.
01:08:53It was not a good week, it was difficult and distressing and weird and upsetting, like
01:09:01sex with Michael Flatley.
01:09:11I cannot believe I'm saying this stuff to a crowd from Ballin Road.
01:09:18She's colored me, she's made me a better person.
01:09:22Sure, she's brought me some trouble and a few heartaches along the way, but all of that
01:09:26pales in comparison to what she's given me.
01:09:30Friends, opportunities, courage, adventures, fun.
01:09:34And boy, it's been fun.
01:09:37And anyway, homophobe is not the worst thing that you can call someone.
01:09:42Cock Jennings is.
01:09:53And I'd like to apologize to Cock.
01:09:58For the first time in my life, I'd like to apologize to Cock.
01:10:06I've entertained in London, Paris, New York, Melbourne, and I have horrified in Limerick,
01:10:13Norwich and Hobart.
01:10:15But I'm still here, making a show of myself.
01:10:19Thank you all so much for coming.
01:10:21Thank you so much.
01:10:26Thank you so much.
01:10:28Remember, this isn't a rehearsal, kids.
01:10:31There is no support act.
01:10:34You are the main event.
01:10:39Thank you all so much.
01:10:41You are the best man I'll ever know.
01:10:45There's no way I can ever, ever go.
01:10:48No, no, no, no way.
01:10:50No, no, no, no way.
01:10:53I'm living without you.
01:10:55Oh, I'm not living without you.
01:10:58Not living without you.
01:11:00I don't wanna be free.
01:11:03I'm staying.
01:11:05I'm staying.
01:11:07And you, and you, and you.
01:11:09You're gonna love me.
01:11:17You're gonna love me.
01:11:20Yes, I am.
01:11:22Ooh, love me.
01:11:23Ooh, love me.
01:11:26Love me.
01:11:30Love me.
01:11:32Love me.
01:11:37Love me.
01:11:43Love me.
01:11:51Love me.