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John and Chino examine the head covering doctrine through Faith Assembly, Pentecostal tradition, Old Order religious culture, and Paul's instructions to the Corinthians. They discuss how a biblical passage about prayer, prophecy, and public worship became expanded into a broader system of female submission, dress codes, and religious control.

The discussion also looks at the cultural world behind Paul's letter, including Corinth, Dionysian worship, maenads, public disorder, and the difference between reading Scripture directly and reading it through years of programmed religious interpretation. Rather than treating head coverings as an isolated rule, John and Chino ask how traditions become burdens when religious leaders add requirements the text itself does not command.

00:00 Introduction
02:44 Why head coverings mattered in Faith Assembly
05:32 A survivor’s chance meeting
07:09 Women bruised by doctrine
13:19 Authoritarian teaching and family damage
18:04 Closed systems and hidden abuse
21:29 Men vs women under Pentecostal rules
25:29 Male headship and control
28:36 Why talk about head coverings?
32:15 Three biblical passages on women’s hair
35:07 Old Order groups and religious uniforms
43:18 Critical thinking and religious rules
45:25 Corinth, culture, and Paul’s letter
49:12 Not only cults believe in head coverings
50:46 Faith Assembly’s strange left turn
55:23 Read the Bible for what it says
58:08 Ritual, poison, and missing the point
1:01:49 Closing
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00:00:31Hello, and welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research
00:00:40at william-branham.org.
00:00:42And with me, I have my co-host, minister, and friend, Cheno Ross, pastor and the voice of
00:00:47the understanding scripture and truth by Cheno D. Ross YouTube channel.
00:00:52Cheno, today is one of those topics that is going to make everybody a little bit nervous.
00:00:57And I can never say that without thinking of Ray Stevens' haircut song.
00:01:01He said he went to this barbershop in the middle of nowhere, and the guy said, son, I'm going
00:01:05to make you a little nervous.
00:01:06And that's kind of what this topic is.
00:01:10I've actually not talked about this since long ago, back when I had my other podcast site.
00:01:17I used to have a YouTube channel called Seek the Truth, and I was just really exploring
00:01:24a lot of the things that we were taught, and just simply taking, here's a teaching that
00:01:29we were taught, now let's investigate the culture behind it, the history behind it, the
00:01:34culture within the history behind it, so many aspects of it.
00:01:37And this is the one that made everybody just get into an uproar if you came from a Pentecostal
00:01:43background, and that is the subject of head coverings.
00:01:48There's so many aspects to look at this, and so many things that I did not know until I
00:01:53started down that study.
00:01:55And what's really interesting is whenever I did it, you know, I had, you get all these
00:01:59people who are sending you hate mail, hate comments.
00:02:02When you first start something like this, I was getting all kinds of comments negative
00:02:07to the things that I was saying, and the irony is many of the things that I was saying were
00:02:12straight out of the Bible.
00:02:13And so I would put something out there, and what it did was it challenged what people have
00:02:18taken as tradition rather than what they've taken from Scripture.
00:02:22And if you add to that the complexity of the culture and the people that the letters that
00:02:28Paul were writing were sent to, there's so many different aspects that people didn't
00:02:33think of whenever they came up with this theology.
00:02:36But I wanted to talk through this with you because you have a special grasp on some of
00:02:40these things, and like I said, we're going to make everybody just a little bit nervous.
00:02:44I don't know if I have a special grasp, but I do have background because of Dr. Freeman
00:02:50and Faith Assembly's position on the head covering.
00:02:53And I'll tell you, John, now, which I didn't tell you before we started recording, I was
00:03:01aware that this was a potentially interesting topic to cover because it was definitely a
00:03:10highlight at Faith Assembly and a mainstay there, not something you see in every church.
00:03:15You do see it in some churches, but not every church on every corner.
00:03:19But I had not really planned to even talk about it.
00:03:24It had crossed my mind a few times in the past, but I thought, I mean, who cares one way
00:03:29or
00:03:29the other what damage is done, what harm is caused one way or the other in your position
00:03:35on head covering.
00:03:36It's not like, you know, an anti-medicine or doctor cult.
00:03:41But then I had a chance meeting last week on Friday, today's Monday, so that was three days
00:03:47ago, I was coming home from my office.
00:03:52I have a home office, which is where I am now, but I also own a business and I have
00:03:56an
00:03:56office there.
00:03:57And so I think it was early to mid-afternoon on Friday.
00:04:00I was through with work early and I was leaving my business office, headed home.
00:04:05And I was on I-64, traveling east.
00:04:09You've been to my house.
00:04:10You know the trip and what it looks like.
00:04:13And I looked down, I was receiving a call.
00:04:16I looked down and it came from, I'll just say, a city in northern Indiana.
00:04:21It was not someone in my contacts, but let's just say north of Indianapolis, because this
00:04:27person definitely asked for anonymity in every regard, which I will always want to honor and
00:04:33respect.
00:04:33So I assumed this is probably related to Faith Assembly, so I'll take the call.
00:04:40And it was.
00:04:41And this woman had traveled down, had actually been in Lexington, Kentucky, which is about
00:04:4745 minutes east of where I live and where I am right now.
00:04:53She was traveling on the same interstate, except she was traveling I-64 west.
00:04:58I'm traveling I-64 east.
00:05:00So we talked for a few minutes.
00:05:02She had either emailed me or messaged me or texted me before, so I vaguely knew who she
00:05:08was, although she has a name similar to another woman.
00:05:12And so way up into our conversation, I was actually had her totally confused for another
00:05:17person until I sat down and pulled up my text and looked at the picture.
00:05:22And I looked at the woman I'm talking to.
00:05:24I said, no, you're not the same woman.
00:05:25So now we're on the same page.
00:05:27But I told her, I said, you know what?
00:05:30If we weren't on an interstate, a divided interstate, we would have a head-on collision.
00:05:36You're headed right towards me.
00:05:38I'm headed right towards you.
00:05:39You want to just pull off at the next exit and we'll stop at a sandwich shop.
00:05:43That's exactly what we did.
00:05:45So it was just a chance encounter with an ex-Faith Assembly person.
00:05:52Sometimes I call them survivors, and some of them are.
00:05:56Some of them don't like that title, and I totally get it because they believe they are thrivers
00:06:03and not just a survivor.
00:06:05So she is a survivor thriver.
00:06:08She's both.
00:06:09She was a part of that movement, and she evidently seems to be going very, things are going very
00:06:16well in her life right now.
00:06:17So she told me in the conversation before we actually met that she was on the 25th episode
00:06:25of what you and I have done.
00:06:27And I said, we have done something north of 85.
00:06:34You have a long way to go.
00:06:35And John, I think today is number 90, which I just shake my head at.
00:06:41I just can't believe we've talked for 90 hours on Faith Assembly, but this, I believe, is
00:06:47the 90th one you and I have done.
00:06:49She's on 25.
00:06:51She's not even a third of the way through.
00:06:54So I said, you have a long way to go in listening to all of the crazy ins and outs
00:07:02that John and
00:07:03I have talked about with Faith Assembly.
00:07:05It's such an interesting subject, and especially if you're female, it's one of the questions
00:07:10that I get commonly when people email me.
00:07:12They really, they've just been so programmed and I'm afraid to say it, but they've been
00:07:17bruised and beaten by this doctrine.
00:07:19People actually, there are sermons that actually beat the women over the heads with this.
00:07:23I remember, I'm a songwriter.
00:07:26I remember as I was coming to the point where I was about to make my mental escape, some
00:07:32of the song, many of the songs that were coming to me, just one after another after another
00:07:36were themes like, why are we preaching to the saved?
00:07:40Shouldn't we be preaching to the lost?
00:07:42And as I was writing down, some of them I wrote down, as I was writing them down, one
00:07:47of the themes I thought was, you know, you've got these ministers that are just berating
00:07:52women, ladies who cut their hair, speaking to an audience where not a single one of them
00:07:57does it.
00:08:01You know, the conundrum of this, man, the people who are outside the building can't
00:08:06hear what you're saying.
00:08:06The people inside of the building, why are you preaching this to me, right?
00:08:11Well, what it is, it's a whip, and they're just whipping the people.
00:08:15And head coverings, you know, it is such a problem in the female half of the Pentecostal
00:08:24movement.
00:08:24Men, for example, almost every episode we do, you have a head covering on.
00:08:28So, you know, and the funny part of it is, you have a head covering, it's a ball cap for
00:08:34those who are listening and not watching.
00:08:37But if you're a female, and you were to have cut your hair and wore a ball cap, they'd
00:08:42say, well, your head's not covered, you cut your hair.
00:08:44And that's not at all what the passage says or implies, yet at the same time, there are
00:08:49aspects of the passage that do apply to the hair and the trimming of hair, which I'll
00:08:54get into in a bit.
00:08:55But the bottom line for me was this.
00:08:58When I started studying the ancient cultures, there was a significant difference between
00:09:03the gods.
00:09:04And I'm using gods plural on purpose.
00:09:07All of the gods of the ancient world were very demanding that you bow your will and obey.
00:09:15In fact, they would break the wills of the people to the extent that parents would sacrifice
00:09:19their children.
00:09:20That's how bad their wills were broken.
00:09:22On the flip side, you had the God of the Jews, which was not like this, was not at all
00:09:29in
00:09:30a way that was breaking the people.
00:09:32And you can read through some of the prophets and prophecies and God speaking to the people,
00:09:37God does not look to the outward appearance, for example.
00:09:40So you had the ancient world where they're ruled by the things that they do.
00:09:44And then you had Judaism, and then when Christianity is birthed, it's literally what God does for
00:09:51you, not what you do for God.
00:09:53And it took me a long time after leaving.
00:09:56I'll say it probably took me five years after leaving before that concept even was remotely
00:10:02possible to understand.
00:10:03So much indoctrination comes on what you're doing to merit God's favor versus God so loved
00:10:12the whole world.
00:10:12So this was a big problem for me, and I'll get into it in a bit, but once I started
00:10:18to
00:10:19begin to understand the history and culture and understand the people that Paul was writing
00:10:25to, what they believed, the social issues that they had, I would have written the same
00:10:31letter, and I would not have been at all meaning that every single woman from here on throughout
00:10:38time must dress and have the same hair code as the people in this one group that he's
00:10:45referring to.
00:10:46I'll get into that group in a minute, but as we get into it, you'll see it's not really
00:10:50what, the way that they have taken it in the Pentecostal movement is not really what Paul
00:10:55was suggesting here.
00:10:57Well, when she and I pulled off the interstate and met, we met at a sandwich shop, John, and
00:11:04the head covering didn't get brought up yet, but she's the one who brought it up later,
00:11:08which is why we're doing what we're doing today.
00:11:10So I will probably have to call her or text her later today and say, you know, tune in,
00:11:14you're on episode 25.
00:11:16Either tune in or skip ahead to number 90, and you can hear this discussion about head
00:11:24covering.
00:11:24What I did, John, I just sat in stunned silence.
00:11:27As I listened to this woman, I'll just say she's in her 40s, as I listened to her tell
00:11:34her story, her parents were a part of the glory barn.
00:11:41She was not born yet.
00:11:43She came along a little later and her other siblings came along a little later, but both
00:11:49her mother and father go back to glory barn days.
00:11:53We know they moved out of the glory barn in the spring of 78, 1978, you know, so that dates
00:12:01the longevity of her parents' experience there.
00:12:05And just the stories that she had to tell, I don't think I give anything away, not mentioning
00:12:13any names, but where her mother came from, maybe especially where her father had come
00:12:23from.
00:12:23And look, we all have our own backgrounds.
00:12:25We all have a set of parents that we didn't choose.
00:12:28You know, there's no shame in where you came from.
00:12:32You didn't have a choice over your parents, over either set of grandparents.
00:12:36But she told me she remembered as a child going to, I think it was her father's side of the
00:12:44family.
00:12:45And, you know, seeing like a grandmother passed out drunk and a grandfather, which I'll use
00:12:52her terminology.
00:12:53She said it was like a white trash family, sitting there in a wife beater shirt, drinking
00:12:59beer, smoking cigarettes, crude, rude, all of this type of stuff.
00:13:04And I think her point in telling me that, and I've heard this not from everyone, but from
00:13:12other faith assembly people, second generation and even third generation, that when you have
00:13:20parents who come, unfortunately, from such a dysfunctional background and they fall under
00:13:29this authoritarian teaching of Hobart Freeman, where, you know, men are the rulers.
00:13:38We've talked about this on so many earlier podcasts, his whole emphasis.
00:13:46I mean, yes, Paul does say the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is head of the
00:13:52church.
00:13:52It does say that in the Bible.
00:13:54So you can't get away from that.
00:13:56It does say that.
00:13:57But the stress and the emphasis, and in my opinion, the wrong teaching about that, as we
00:14:05all know, as everyone who will be honest and who has come from a faith assembly background,
00:14:10almost everyone, maybe not everyone, but almost everyone can say, has just had disastrous
00:14:16consequences.
00:14:17And look, there are people who come from really good families with two good parents and maybe
00:14:25even a set or both sets of good grandparents at faith assembly.
00:14:29So I'm not painting with a uniformly broad brush.
00:14:33All I'm saying is, this is what she said to me, and I have heard this from others.
00:14:40So what I see psychologically, John, and sociologically is this, you know, this poor, her parents are,
00:14:50they're hardly, they don't have the skill set to birth children at home and raise them correctly.
00:14:58They don't even have that skill set.
00:15:00And so then when you come under the teaching of faith assembly and Hobart Freeman, who, as
00:15:08you've intimated here already this morning, is just beating the women down, then it is setting
00:15:16up a scenario that is ripe for the abuse of the wife and for the abuse of the children.
00:15:24And that type of, you know, authoritarianism attracts dysfunction.
00:15:30It attracts narcissism and narcissists.
00:15:35And in her case, this is exactly what happened.
00:15:37So as I said, I just sat there somewhat stunned by what she was saying.
00:15:43And one of the points she wanted to make, she had heard somewhere in the mid-20s of the podcast,
00:15:49as you and I have done, must have been where we were talking about some of the, some of
00:15:55the sexual misconduct that was happening.
00:15:59And she told me she had heard that.
00:16:01And she said to me, she said, well, Cheno, I listened to what you had to say.
00:16:07And I think you were too kind.
00:16:12And I said, you know, sister, I think that's, I think you're probably right.
00:16:17I said, I think that's probably a fair criticism of the way I handle that.
00:16:23And she said, well, I don't mean to be criticizing.
00:16:25I said, no, if you're a public speaker, you got to take the good with the bad.
00:16:28You know, I get, I get plenty of compliments.
00:16:31Criticism is fine, you know, and legitimate criticism is even better.
00:16:37It's golden.
00:16:38Legitimate criticism is absolutely golden.
00:16:42Because in talking with her, she said, I had two siblings who were, I don't know if
00:16:50the correct phrase would be sexually molested or sexually assaulted.
00:16:56But something bad happened by, by at the hands of a popular worship leader in that movement.
00:17:07And, you know, when I hear stories like that, I just go, that's why I said I'm sitting there
00:17:11in stunned silence.
00:17:12So when I told her, I think that's fair criticism.
00:17:16I said, I think it's 100% fair criticism of me that I was probably too kind and too gentle.
00:17:22But here's why I said, look, until I, you know, I've been, my, my background and my professional
00:17:31training, besides my undergraduate degree in education has been in biblical studies and
00:17:37theology.
00:17:38So I was always interested in that aspect of Hobart Freeman's ministry.
00:17:45I did not know, I didn't travel to these satellite groups.
00:17:49I knew very few of the people.
00:17:51I knew a lot more of the ministers than I did the people.
00:17:55And I said, so when I started doing these podcasts with John Collins, I did not realize
00:18:03the extent of sexual assault and molestation and misconduct that was happening at the mother
00:18:13church faith assembly and at all of these little satellite groups.
00:18:17And then, you know, you've got satellites of satellites, you might have an official satellite
00:18:22group and name your state, Illinois, Wisconsin, wherever, Tennessee.
00:18:29But then you probably also from that satellite group have some other little small, you know,
00:18:35gatherings of people.
00:18:37And they're all connected through the tape ministry to Dr. Freeman's teaching.
00:18:43And so I was, I myself have literally been shocked.
00:18:49I've had my eyes open.
00:18:50I had no idea.
00:18:52But once I began hearing stories from other people, when you and I were doing, you know,
00:18:56these episodes two years ago, then it began dawning on me that the whole culture they had created
00:19:04where it was a closed information society.
00:19:09No one came in.
00:19:10No one went out.
00:19:11No outside information is allowed in.
00:19:14No law enforcement.
00:19:15No nurses.
00:19:16No school personnel.
00:19:18No social services involved.
00:19:21Large families.
00:19:22Women are not allowed to work.
00:19:24Women stay at home.
00:19:25Women are having one child after the other.
00:19:29You start putting all that together, which I was in the process of doing as you and I were
00:19:35recording these.
00:19:36And as I'm getting all of this feedback from people, then what I realized was we have just
00:19:43one of the most ripe opportunities for sexual misconduct to happen.
00:19:49So when she said, you know, Cheno, you were too kind, I think what she was wanting me to
00:19:54say is, you know, harp on this a little more, the evils of what were done to the women and
00:20:02to many of these, those young, young ladies.
00:20:05And so I think she's totally right.
00:20:08The criticism is valid and I apologize to anyone that I've offended if I, if I seem
00:20:16like I was siding with the predators at all, I'm definitely not.
00:20:21Or if I was just not coming out as strongly as I could.
00:20:25As part of the male half of the people who have escaped, I can say regrettably that when
00:20:33you're part of the male half, it's much different than the female half.
00:20:37I've joked before, it's like the He-Man Woman's Haters Club from the old Little Rascals cartoon.
00:20:43It's sad, but it's more true than a joke.
00:20:46The men really had it good.
00:20:49And I never really thought about that.
00:20:50I had escaped, I had started my blog, my podcast, and one lady contacted me by accident thinking
00:20:57that my website was the actual Colt Headquarters website.
00:21:01So she contacted me and she said, I'm sorry, brothers and sisters, I truly believe God, I love
00:21:06God, but I just, I'm going to hell.
00:21:10And she went on to explain why she's going to hell.
00:21:12And she said, I just can't dress in the Pentecostal dress code because I live in northern Alaska.
00:21:20I will freeze and die if I wear those long dresses.
00:21:23And I took that and I never really thought about it.
00:21:27But then I got another email and another from people escaping and they were talking about
00:21:31the rules that was imposed upon the women.
00:21:33And one of them asked me, well, John, if you don't think it's that bad, how many rules
00:21:38did you have as a man?
00:21:40And I never really thought about that.
00:21:42I stopped and thought, oh my gosh, we actually didn't have it that bad.
00:21:45In fact, you could blend in with a crowd as a male, but you could not as a female.
00:21:51Some of the rules were unhealthy.
00:21:54The, you know, obviously if you're northern Alaska and you're wearing a dress and many
00:21:59of them weren't allowed to wear anything like pants under the dress to save the legs.
00:22:04So you literally would get frostbitten.
00:22:06That's, that's a dangerous, but think about just the women's hair in general.
00:22:11I had this black lady who had escaped and she was telling me it was just horrific, John,
00:22:16because we also had the same rules that the Pentecostals had imposed.
00:22:21And she started describing the problems she had trying to let her hair grow and she just
00:22:26simply couldn't.
00:22:27It was, it was unhealthy for her hair.
00:22:29And I took a poll, we were in one of the support groups.
00:22:33I took a poll and many of the women who weren't black started talking through, well, it's even
00:22:38unhealthy for people who aren't black because you're, the ends of your hair split and it
00:22:45can end up where you actually, your hair actually becomes shorter because you didn't cut it.
00:22:50So there are these weird things that happen.
00:22:53But in the end, for me, it really came down to this.
00:22:56We had rules just for the sake of imposing them in many cases.
00:23:00And that's just, that's really wrong to do that to people.
00:23:04Now, the rules themselves, you have to, you have to take a step back and you have to see,
00:23:09is the rule something that really God demands for salvation?
00:23:12Is it something that man has declared?
00:23:15And then there's this real gray area.
00:23:17There are specific places in the Bible where it's not really a commandment by God to everybody
00:23:25forever, but it might be to a specific situation.
00:23:28And that was a concept that I just really had never thought of because we weren't preached
00:23:33the Bible that way.
00:23:34We were, we were literally preached that every single word written, number one, was written
00:23:39exactly verbatim penned by God.
00:23:42But more than that, it was to every single person for eternity.
00:23:46And how can you do this when you have passages like stone your children if they disobey?
00:23:52So I'm going through all of these complex thoughts as I was escaping.
00:23:55But in the end, it really came down to this.
00:23:58The women had it worse than the men.
00:24:00And the men were doing it, in my opinion, I can't say what was in their heads, but thinking
00:24:06back through some of those sermons where they're preaching at the people who aren't even in
00:24:10their congregation, many of them are doing it just out of sheer anger and hatred of people
00:24:18because you can't, you can't do this.
00:24:20You can't preach angrily at people who aren't even hearing you unless you have some kind
00:24:25of personality disorder, you know?
00:24:28Well, and that's what I think a lot of our conversation was about.
00:24:32And we're coming to head coverings.
00:24:34We haven't forgotten our topic.
00:24:36But I was just, you know, just saddened me.
00:24:39And I told her several times, I said, I'm so sorry.
00:24:42Oh, man, I am so sorry to hear, you know, all that you have been through in your childhood.
00:24:49I think in her late teens, she was able to get away and escape.
00:24:54But, you know, when you're eight years old and 12 years old, you're living at home with
00:24:59your parents and you can't escape.
00:25:01And she just told me these stories.
00:25:03And then it reminded me, and I could point anyone to Dr. Freeman's available list of messages,
00:25:12and you will see how much teaching he did on biblical roles of husbands and wives.
00:25:20I mean, he had his little two tapes to begin with that were done way back in the 70s.
00:25:27But I'm telling you, by the time we got to the early 80s, he was constantly reading magazines,
00:25:36which then he would bring the statistics and say, even the sociologists are concerned
00:25:42about masculinized women and feminized males.
00:25:47And he was just harping on this.
00:25:50And, you know, it was way beyond what was necessary.
00:25:53And it was way out of his wheelhouse.
00:25:56As I said on the earlier podcast, he didn't, I don't have, he didn't have any professional
00:26:03training in counseling, in marriage and the family, in husbands and wives roles.
00:26:10You know, he didn't have any professional training.
00:26:12He had read the Bible.
00:26:14Well, so have we all.
00:26:16But to just to constantly talk against the feminized male.
00:26:21In other words, he wanted the men to be real men.
00:26:25And that means take control.
00:26:27And I can remember hearing so many statements by, you know, there was just, there was so
00:26:35much competition among those poor people and the couples, you know, you had to be the perfect
00:26:40wife and the perfect husband or other people in the congregation would spy you out and say
00:26:47something to you.
00:26:48And so, you know, someone would say to a brother in the church, you need to get your wife under
00:26:55control.
00:26:56Like what?
00:26:57You need to get your wife under control?
00:27:00I mean, that's what you do to your dog that's in the backyard that's chewing on lawn furniture
00:27:06he shouldn't be chewing on.
00:27:08You need to get your dog under control.
00:27:10What do you mean you need to get your wife under control?
00:27:14I mean, that's not the man's responsibility.
00:27:17I'm sorry.
00:27:18But it's just, you won't find a verse that says, get your wife under control.
00:27:22You may find a verse that say, that says you need to be the head of the family.
00:27:26And you need to love your wife as Christ loved the church.
00:27:29And then your wife and women have certain verses written to them.
00:27:34That's their business.
00:27:36That's not any business of mine.
00:27:38So I just, you know, I never did, John, any extended series on husbands and wives and how
00:27:45male headship.
00:27:46Let's just take that.
00:27:47I never did any extended series on male headship.
00:27:50And I'll tell you why.
00:27:51I actually was talking to a male about this a couple of months ago.
00:27:56And they were wondering, why did you never do an extended series on that?
00:28:00And I said, because it just feels a little awkward.
00:28:07You know, it feels a little biased.
00:28:08Because it's the men in the church who are the teachers and the pastors, and then they
00:28:15are going to teach this doctrine of male headship.
00:28:19I said, it just seems like a conflict of interest here in some regard.
00:28:23So, you know, that's just not something I want to talk about.
00:28:27People can read their own Bible and they can get that information from somewhere else.
00:28:32But in the process of this conversation with this lovely young lady, she asked excitedly,
00:28:39are you going to talk about the head covering?
00:28:42Are you going to talk about the head covering?
00:28:44And, you know, I looked at her, I laughed and said, you know, I thought about it, but
00:28:48I pretty much had ended up on the position, no, I'm not going to talk about the head covering.
00:28:55I don't know if John will want to spend an hour of his life talking about the head covering.
00:29:01And I said, anyway, I'm unaware of any deaths that have occurred at Faith Assembly by either
00:29:08wearing or not wearing the head covering.
00:29:11I'm unaware of any deaths.
00:29:13We've talked a lot about divine healing and medicine because that's where the rubber met
00:29:18the road.
00:29:19This head covering stuff, you know, yes, there is a half of a chapter, 1 Corinthians 11, in
00:29:26the Bible on that.
00:29:27And I'm not stating my position.
00:29:30We all have a position.
00:29:31I will refrain from stating my position on that.
00:29:35Because as you said a moment ago, I mean, think about it.
00:29:37There is a half a chapter in the Bible and that's it.
00:29:40It's not talked about anywhere else.
00:29:43I would encourage people to minor on the minors and major on the majors.
00:29:48But when she asked me, will you be talking about the head covering, she was excited.
00:29:54And it's because all of her childhood memories, or many of them, are wrapped up in her as a
00:30:04young female child, not a married woman in the church.
00:30:09This is where things get a little interesting.
00:30:12As a young female child in Faith Assembly or in a Faith Assembly satellite group, wearing
00:30:21head coverings.
00:30:23So, you know, I guess today is our opportunity to talk on the lighter side about head coverings.
00:30:33As I said, wearing or not wearing has not caused anyone's death.
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00:31:43So, I was smiling and laughing when you said, I don't know if John wants to talk about this.
00:31:47And I was thinking, let me talk, let me talk.
00:31:52I'm one of these people who, I'm very, if you get to know me, I'm very black or white in
00:31:58my way of thinking.
00:31:59I'm not a person who hides things.
00:32:01I don't like to cover things up.
00:32:03Sometimes it's to my own detriment, but I'm very open.
00:32:06I have an open personality.
00:32:08And I will openly say this.
00:32:09I disagree with you when you said there's only one passage that talks about this in the Bible.
00:32:15There are actually three very important ones.
00:32:18The first one is the one that every Pentecostal knows, and it talks about how the hair is the
00:32:24glory for the woman, and she should honor her husband by not cutting the hair.
00:32:29We'll talk about that in a minute.
00:32:31I want to first talk about the earlier passages that talk about the hair of the woman.
00:32:36And you can find that if you go all the way back to Deuteronomy.
00:32:38So, first I want to say, in the Bible, there's a concept that everybody needs to understand.
00:32:46God is outside of our time.
00:32:49So, God is eternal.
00:32:51God, the God of Abraham is the same God of the Christian faith, if you understand what God
00:32:57means to the people.
00:32:58And God isn't a split personality God, or otherwise we should all run screaming away
00:33:04from this God, right?
00:33:06Deuteronomy 21, it talks about, and this is also a touchy subject, so I'm going to tread
00:33:12very cautiously.
00:33:13In the Mosaic Law, there were provisions for what you do when you conquer a nation and take
00:33:19all of its possessions.
00:33:21And unfortunately, in the ancient world, women were possession to many ancient cultures.
00:33:27Deuteronomy 21 talks about, it says, if a woman is captured in war, whom an Israelite man
00:33:33intends to marry.
00:33:34So, this is an Israelite who goes into another city, captures the woman, he's going to marry
00:33:40her.
00:33:41She should, A, shave her head, B, pair her nails.
00:33:47Now, in the Pentecostal faith, what they just did dishonored God, dishonored themselves.
00:33:53If you believe in a God that never changes, how do you reconcile she must shave her head
00:34:00with she can't shave her head?
00:34:02How do you reconcile she does it for the honor of the husband with the husband's the one who
00:34:07makes her do it?
00:34:09Those two things cannot fit.
00:34:11If you read down, there's a second place that it talks about, and she'll put on the
00:34:15raiment of her captivity and will remain in your house and be well, it goes through all
00:34:21of the statements of what she does when you take the woman captive from war.
00:34:26Now, captive from war is a completely different scenario than what Paul is writing about, but
00:34:31the point I want to stress before we get into this is the fact that you can't have both.
00:34:36And no matter how much cognitive dissonance you apply to this, you've got one passage
00:34:42telling and instructing the female to shave her head, and when she does it, she becomes
00:34:47an honor to her husband.
00:34:50And then you've got another passage that says if she does it, she dishonors her husband.
00:34:53So you cannot make those two things fit.
00:34:56Darrell Bock So you live more dangerously than I do, John, wading back into Old Testament passages
00:35:01just like that.
00:35:02Yeah, I'm going to leave that for you.
00:35:07This business of the head covering, though, is, you know, it's not unique to Faith Assembly.
00:35:12I don't want to make it out like this was some aberrant, horrendous, heretical doctrine
00:35:18that Faith Assembly and Faith Assembly only was known for.
00:35:22I mean, you find some form of head covering in other groups.
00:35:30Now, you might not find it in the church you attend today.
00:35:33You might not have found it in the church you attended 50 years ago.
00:35:37But a lot of your old order groups, you know, your Amish, your Mennonites, Brethren, which
00:35:44is the background that Hobart came out of from the 50s and first half of the 1960s, the German
00:35:51Baptists, I don't know, maybe the Quakers, maybe the Shakers.
00:35:55We actually have a place here in Kentucky, not very far from where I live right here called
00:36:01Shaker Village.
00:36:03And it contains homes that have been preserved from this particular religious group called
00:36:11the Shakers.
00:36:12And there's a style of cabinetry that we do today called Shaker Style.
00:36:17And it comes from the Shakers because for them, anything that was ornate was evil.
00:36:25God was a God of simplicity.
00:36:27So everything had to be at a right angle.
00:36:30Everything had to be square.
00:36:31You know, you couldn't have Doric or Dorian columns or Corinthian columns like you find
00:36:38in Greek and Roman architecture.
00:36:40Everything had to be plain and simple.
00:36:43And, you know, that kind of reminds you of the old order groups where the women would
00:36:48wear what they called a cap.
00:36:50And that's K-A-P-P.
00:36:52They would wear a cap at home.
00:36:55And then when they would go out in public, they would wear a bonnet.
00:37:00And I think we've all seen people who are from one of these old order groups that had nothing
00:37:08to do with faith assembly.
00:37:09We've seen them at the store.
00:37:11We've seen them at a market.
00:37:12And these women have on, you know, the appropriate long cotton dress down to their ankles.
00:37:21And they have on some type of head covering.
00:37:24And we've talked before, the full clothing of the body is, all of this just makes you sit
00:37:33back and smile over how people have just missed the whole point of so many things in
00:37:39scripture and how they've chosen to measure on the minors, build whole doctrines, build
00:37:44whole denominations, build whole churches.
00:37:47And then from that, you know what you build?
00:37:49You build this sense of pride that I am better.
00:37:52We are better than that group over there because, you know, our women aren't going to entice
00:37:58any men to sin because they have sleeves down to the wrist and they have dresses down to
00:38:03the ankle.
00:38:04And we've talked about this before.
00:38:06Sin is in a man's heart.
00:38:08You know, it's not whether you can see a woman's leg or see her forearm.
00:38:12It's in a man's heart.
00:38:13That's a man's responsibility to deal with, not the woman's responsibility.
00:38:18And I have, as I see these women, John, out in public, and I see them regularly, we have
00:38:25plenty of those people around central Kentucky where I live.
00:38:31And I just, my heart goes out to those women and I feel sorry for them.
00:38:36The men, they normally have a certain kind of hat on.
00:38:39They have suspenders.
00:38:40They all look the same.
00:38:41They have a beard, but no mustache.
00:38:45And I just, my heart goes out to them because some man, some man told them, you have to
00:38:51do this in order to be pleasing to God.
00:38:54The Bible never says any of that.
00:38:56You can't have a mustache, but you have to have a beard.
00:38:59That is just purely the doctrines and creeds and commandments of men.
00:39:06And you just feel sorry for people who I'm sure own their own Bibles, and I'm sure they
00:39:11go to, you know, old order churches and groups, and yet they're under the bondage of the leadership.
00:39:19You know, whether it's faith assembly leadership or whether it's Amish, Mennonite, male domination,
00:39:27authoritarian leadership, teaching people and teaching these poor women things that are just,
00:39:34that are not biblical at all.
00:39:35I don't really know why they do it unless, you know, I have no degree in training in
00:39:40psychiatry and psychology, unless that is a way in which they can keep them in servitude.
00:39:46I'm sure they will say the reason we do this is because this is what God's commanded in
00:39:51his word.
00:39:52But, you know, we know that's not the case.
00:39:55You know, John, I also, as you know, I wear many hats and I'm a fishing guide.
00:40:01And I, there's a particular lake called Barron River Lake down in Glasgow, Kentucky, in south
00:40:07central Kentucky, where I've done a lot of guiding down there.
00:40:10And that is an old order, you know, a hotbed.
00:40:13There are a lot of old order groups down there.
00:40:15And I have guided, you know, clients on fishing trips for hybrid striped bass down there for
00:40:22the last 20 years.
00:40:24And we will, we'll pull up to one of the many ramps.
00:40:27I normally go to this ramp that we call the Narrows.
00:40:30And, you know, I'm backing a big trailer and big boat down and getting ready to launch the
00:40:35boat.
00:40:35I pick up clients on the dock.
00:40:37We're going to go out fishing.
00:40:38And invariably, you know, this is a summertime activity if we're trolling down there or throwing
00:40:45jigging spoons for hybrid striped bass.
00:40:48Invariably, in the summertime, we'll see a truck backing down the ramp.
00:40:53And then there will be a young man who is, you can tell he's old order.
00:41:00There will be his wife.
00:41:02You can tell she's old order.
00:41:04She's got on that full cotton dress.
00:41:06I'm talking about it's 98 degrees outside and she has the bonnet on her head and they
00:41:12launched that boat, which has a gasoline powered motor on it.
00:41:17Yes, it does.
00:41:18They will launch that boat.
00:41:20They'll go out there and, you know, we always talk when we're out on the water.
00:41:24So I meet these people and they, and I'm pretty successful because I know what I'm doing and
00:41:29I catch fish and they'll pull up beside me to see what I'm doing.
00:41:33And I talk with them and then we end up back at the ramp.
00:41:36At the end of the day, and guess what?
00:41:39Their yoder toter is what we call them.
00:41:41Their yoder toter is there to pick them up because they can't drive a motorized vehicle.
00:41:50That is against the cult that they are a part of.
00:41:56And I'm sorry, but you better believe that's a cult.
00:41:58If you're a member in the 21st century of a religious group here in modern, civilized,
00:42:06industrialized United States of America, and you can't drive a motorized vehicle, but you
00:42:15can drive a gasoline powered boat, engine.
00:42:20What?
00:42:21I look at this and I just go, surely this did not come from God.
00:42:26This could only have come from some confused man.
00:42:30And I tried to talk to some of them and just ask them, so why aren't you allowed to drive
00:42:37yourself here in your own vehicle?
00:42:39Oh, brother, that would be a sin.
00:42:42And I said, well, let me get this right.
00:42:44Let me get this right.
00:42:45That would be a sin for you to do that, but you want to hire me to drive you here.
00:42:51So you want to cause me to sin.
00:42:53I said, aren't there things in the Bible about that?
00:42:56How is it that you're wanting to protect your own godliness, but you have no concern for
00:43:02my godliness or for these other yoder toters that you know you can hire them to drop you
00:43:09off at the lake?
00:43:10You go fishing with your motorized engine on the back of your boat, and then they come
00:43:14and pick you up.
00:43:15Again, none of this makes any sense to me.
00:43:18But see, what you have just did is something that I believe unravels the whole thing.
00:43:24You applied critical thinking.
00:43:26They cannot drive a vehicle that's gas-powered, but they can drive a boat, and it's got the
00:43:32same engine in it.
00:43:33So what's the difference?
00:43:33You're critically thinking about this.
00:43:35The problem that I have is that people do not critically think whenever they're in a
00:43:40religious setting.
00:43:41So if those same people were in church, they would turn off the critical thinking, or otherwise
00:43:45they would leave the fundamentalist-type religion.
00:43:48There's a reason why I went to Deuteronomy, and it has to do with exactly what you said
00:43:53and with ancient culture.
00:43:55So I'm studying ancient culture.
00:43:56I grew up with these sermons about the head coverings, the women with the long hair.
00:44:01And I remember this guy saying, I mean, you look at the pharaohs, look at the Egyptians.
00:44:05You can clearly tell the people of God from the people of Baal or different religions just
00:44:12simply by looking at their women.
00:44:14They shaved their heads.
00:44:16And everybody's going, amen, amen, amen, right?
00:44:19And I read this passage.
00:44:20Now, when you critically think about this passage, it's talking about she shall shave her head.
00:44:25That's one area of critical thinking.
00:44:27But think of the next level to this.
00:44:30They came from a different culture, and that different culture, she had hair on her head
00:44:36whenever they took her, so therefore she shaves her head.
00:44:39So you're taking it to the next step of critical thinking.
00:44:42Other cultures had women with long hair.
00:44:44So this wasn't any way, shape, or form a godly way to dress, to separate yourself from the
00:44:50ancient world.
00:44:51Now, take that to Paul's letter.
00:44:54I had this minister, I've shared this with you, I had this minister sit down and tell
00:44:58me that any time he talked about the letters that Paul wrote to his congregation, he said,
00:45:02now I want you to understand, before we talk about this passage, I'm about to read somebody
00:45:07else's mail.
00:45:09Because it puts it into context, this wasn't specifically written to the modern world, this
00:45:14was specifically written to a situation.
00:45:16But from what he wrote, we can glean concepts that we can grow as Christians.
00:45:21That's how he framed it.
00:45:23So, Paul writes this letter to the Corinthians.
00:45:26In that culture, this was a culture that had many different gods and temples, etc.
00:45:33But one of the most prominent was the cults of Dionysus.
00:45:37And Dionysus, for those who don't know, it's the Greek companion to the god Bacchus.
00:45:43And both gods were basically the god of partying and orgies and drinking wine.
00:45:51Within the Dionysian worship were these people called maenads, and they were females.
00:45:57And they had long flowing hair like the Pentecostals, but they would wrap it up on their head and
00:46:02put a bobby pin through it, much like the Pentecostals.
00:46:05And you can go on the internet and you can actually find images of these things.
00:46:10I came across this concept whenever I was in a museum that had a bunch of ancient artifacts.
00:46:17I didn't find the maenads, but I found some Egyptian artifacts that had bobby pins.
00:46:22And I was like, wait a minute.
00:46:23They told me that the women shaved their head in ancient Egypt.
00:46:27And so I started going down this path.
00:46:30I started to understand that the maenads had the hair up, but then it got really weird because
00:46:36they were getting into a spiritual ecstasy that ended up in spiritual orgies, if you call
00:46:42it spiritual.
00:46:43They would take animals and rip the flesh off, but they would get so unruly that they were
00:46:49just out of their minds.
00:46:50And Paul is writing, he's not writing to the maenads specifically, but he's writing to
00:46:55a culture where this has been prominent.
00:46:58And so in the church services, you have to imagine people who came out of that background
00:47:03and came into Christianity, they were raised from birth in some of these religions to believe
00:47:10that whenever you get into religious, when you get into the spirit, as they call it in
00:47:14Pentecostalism, the women need to be just a little bit unruly.
00:47:18That was the background they came from.
00:47:21So when you understand that culture and you understand what he says, you read through the
00:47:25letter and it says, the women, let their hair be long for the glory to God, let their
00:47:30hair be covered.
00:47:31Well, your hair can be covered while still cutting your hair.
00:47:34That's the other critical thinking that most people lose.
00:47:37You can still cut your hair and have long hair.
00:47:39You can trim your ends and have long hair.
00:47:42But if you keep reading all the way to the end of that passage, it says something to the
00:47:46effect, and I'm going off of memory, but we have no such custom, neither do the churches
00:47:51of God.
00:47:53So that line, if you critically think about what he's saying, he is literally saying,
00:47:57I'm writing this to you, your problem, your custom, but we in the churches of God don't
00:48:02have this problem.
00:48:04And if you miss that line, you've totally missed the meaning behind what he said in that
00:48:08letter.
00:48:08And I also want to say, John, that it's not just these Pentecostal groups that you and
00:48:13I are familiar with.
00:48:16I mean, I can remember back in the day, in your mainline denominations, back when I was
00:48:23young and even my mother's generation, in an earlier day, women in mainline denominations
00:48:30often would wear a hat to church.
00:48:33You know, so I don't know that they thought of it as a head covering.
00:48:39It was just kind of what women in America did.
00:48:43And I came from a Presbyterian church background where you would often see women wear hats to
00:48:50church.
00:48:50Now, it was not like a Kentucky Derby hat.
00:48:54It was not a fascinator.
00:48:58It was just, you know, a hat that they would wear to church.
00:49:01And let me just also say this, and then we'll talk for what time we have left on some things
00:49:09about faith assembly and the head covering.
00:49:11It would be a mistake to believe that only kooks believe in head coverings because I can
00:49:17remember hearing a little clip by someone had asked a question of the late Dr. R.C.
00:49:23Sproul, who was a Presbyterian theologian.
00:49:26He was a seminary professor.
00:49:28He didn't have anything to do with any old order groups or anything like that.
00:49:32And they asked his opinion about the head covering.
00:49:35And he said in his response that based on the fact that Paul uses the order of creation
00:49:44as the reason why he is teaching the head covering, that it is a principle that, in his opinion,
00:49:54was still valid.
00:49:55So you've got people literally all across the board who would be in favor of wearing
00:50:01a head covering.
00:50:02But here's the point.
00:50:04Here's where another point or another aspect, John, where critical thinking enters in.
00:50:10And if you do choose to wear a head covering or you are part of a group who does believe
00:50:16in wearing the head covering, what Paul does say there is when a woman prays or prophesies,
00:50:23and he's obviously talking to the church.
00:50:26So he's talking about in a public meeting, you're not prophesying to yourself at home.
00:50:31If you are a woman prophesying in Corinth, you're doing it in the church.
00:50:36So if you are praying, that is publicly done in the church, then Paul says to have your
00:50:45head covered.
00:50:46Here's where faith assembly took a strange left turn.
00:50:50Now, they believed in the head covering for sure, that if a woman prays or prophesies in
00:50:55the public assembly, she is to have an artificial covering on her head.
00:51:01That would be what Dr. Freeman would teach.
00:51:03But here's where things just went off the rails.
00:51:07Here's where it takes a strange left turn.
00:51:10Assuming that you do believe in wearing a head covering, and I have no criticism if that's
00:51:17what you believe, but assuming you do believe that, within the context where it's taught,
00:51:21it's not every female, and it's not every female all the time.
00:51:25It's when a woman prays or prophesies in church.
00:51:30However, when you look out over the vast array, if you were up at the podium at faith assembly,
00:51:37the vast array of the congregation, you know, it would look like a thousand white lily pads
00:51:46out there, because all females wore them to faith assembly all the time.
00:51:54So, not only would a wife be wearing her head covering to show submission to her husband,
00:52:02okay, you know, we could say, yeah, we could see maybe something is scriptural with that,
00:52:08but just women in general who are not married wearing a head covering, then what are you
00:52:16showing there, say, well, they're just showing that women are, in general, in submission to
00:52:23the male headship of the church?
00:52:25Okay, I'm not going to argue over that, but what about, what about when we get to teenagers,
00:52:30what about when we get to eight-year-olds?
00:52:33And that's where this woman was in her childhood.
00:52:36So, that does not seem, whatever you want to believe about head covering, that does not
00:52:42seem to be what Paul is talking about, that when you dress your children before driving
00:52:50to faith assembly, you steal something from the grandmother's house.
00:52:56Normally, it's this cotton, or even better, this lace thing called a doily, and you make
00:53:02sure every female in the van headed to church has one, the mom might have hers in the purse,
00:53:09the girls might have theirs, you know, in their Bible, and you see when all of these women,
00:53:18when all of these females, I should say, arrive at church, out come these doilies.
00:53:24These doilies, you know, this is an open work mat.
00:53:29You know, doilies were something back in our grandparents' day, our grandmother's day,
00:53:34where she would put on the table and put a pie on top of, or it would be on the
00:53:39end table
00:53:39in the living room, and the lamp sat on top of it.
00:53:43But not if any faith assembly women were there, those things were all gone, because that became
00:53:47the head covering.
00:53:49And what was just so odd is everyone wore the same kind of thing.
00:53:56You know, you are literally anti-denominational, 100%, and you are literally creating your
00:54:04own denomination.
00:54:06You are literally creating the very thing that you have argued against and preached against.
00:54:13We don't believe in denominations.
00:54:15They're full of man-made rules and practices and regulations.
00:54:20And yet, faith assembly, you can't wear a certain kind of sneaker, tennis shoe.
00:54:27You can't wear a purse with a long strap.
00:54:30You can't do this.
00:54:31You can't do that.
00:54:32You must wear a head covering.
00:54:34And whether it was ever said from the pulpit, and it wasn't to my knowledge, but I could be
00:54:40mistaken on this, what kind you had to wear, because you have created your own religious
00:54:47group, your own denomination, you are all wearing this doily.
00:54:54And I don't know if you know what a doily is, John.
00:54:56I think you do.
00:54:56It's like a giant snowflake.
00:55:00That's what I think of.
00:55:01It's like a giant snowflake, you know, this big around that these women put on their heads.
00:55:07And again, not only the women, but this woman that I talked to from a young child, that is
00:55:14not, that is not what Paul is teaching there.
00:55:17But it is something that just becomes part of your denominational group.
00:55:22The bottom line for me is this, and this is what I would tell the person had I met her
00:55:27alongside of the road.
00:55:28This is what I tell everybody who contacts me about this.
00:55:32And this applies to every single concept that we're talking about with these cults.
00:55:37Read the Bible for what it says, not what they're telling you it says.
00:55:42If you go back and you read just what Paul says, it's so clear.
00:55:49When people read it, unfortunately, they'll read a line, and then all that programmed language
00:55:53of the sermons they've heard is in their heads, and they don't read what the words actually
00:55:59say.
00:55:59They read what they've been preached that they say.
00:56:01That's a real problem.
00:56:03But Paul was not trying to silence women in worship.
00:56:06It's not at all what he's saying.
00:56:08He was making sure that when they prayed aloud, or when they prophesied aloud, that they did
00:56:15not look like the chaos that they had been delivered from.
00:56:19And I'll admit, to understand that chaos, you do have to go outside of the Bible.
00:56:23You have to understand the culture.
00:56:25But to understand what he's saying, you don't have to even know the culture, because he does
00:56:28not say many of the things that they preach.
00:56:31He's just saying, when they pray out loud, when they prophesy out loud, don't let them
00:56:36go crazy and go nuts in your church.
00:56:39And it's a problem that I would say would exist today.
00:56:43If you were, even if you had the beanie on your head and some woman just went off the rails
00:56:49crazy in the church, you'd probably send the deacons to say, now calm down, sister, and
00:56:53go sit in the corner.
00:56:55That's kind of what he's saying.
00:56:56But then, pay close attention to that last line.
00:57:00But we have no such custom, neither do the churches of God.
00:57:03You have to understand that when somebody says something like that, if I tell you this, if
00:57:08I tell you, Chino, I don't want you to wear another hat.
00:57:10I want everybody to see your uncovered head for the rest of our podcast.
00:57:17But that doesn't apply to my other podcast host, just you.
00:57:20I want you to not wear your hat, which Chino has now taken his hat off.
00:57:26You would understand when you listen to me say that, you would understand that I'm saying
00:57:29that to Chino, not the other host.
00:57:31Because I followed up by saying, this is just to Chino.
00:57:34Paul qualified it.
00:57:35He says, we have no such custom, neither do the churches of God.
00:57:39This entire custom that he's talked about, he has now qualified.
00:57:43And for me, it's just simple.
00:57:45Read it.
00:57:46Don't think about what they have said.
00:57:48I know that people like me have 37 years of indoctrination.
00:57:52It's really hard to do what I did, and I'll invite anybody else to do it.
00:57:56Read it like, I don't know, 20, 30 times.
00:57:59But pay close attention to the words spoken in the text, not what you've been told.
00:58:05And it all resolves itself.
00:58:07I think the main key is what you just said and what you said earlier, John, because people
00:58:12have asked me, they've said, well, I think there were a lot of good things that Dr. Freeman
00:58:15said, a lot of things that are true.
00:58:17And I said, that's probably an accurate statement.
00:58:20There were a lot of things he said that's true.
00:58:23However, just the tone of voice, the passages he goes to, his pet peeves, you know, it's still,
00:58:30it's just full of poison.
00:58:32And it's better to jettison all of that and pick up your Bible and read it for yourself.
00:58:39And if you end up believing in and wearing a head covering, fine.
00:58:42If you don't, fine.
00:58:44As I said earlier, it's not one of those major issues in the Bible, but it became something
00:58:49that was very distinctive to faith assembly.
00:58:52And, you know, years ago, I just saw that something is going off the tracks where rather
00:59:02than actually, actually practicing what Paul said, if you believe that interpretation,
00:59:08and that is when a woman gets ready to pray or prophesy, then cover her head.
00:59:14That's the only time it says to do that.
00:59:17You don't have to have your head covered at all other occasions.
00:59:21And yet, I just saw how that doctrine of Dr. Freeman's and the church and other churches
00:59:28as well, then became so important that they lost sight of the passage.
00:59:36And I think they lost sight of the meaning of the passage.
00:59:39And it became a ritual.
00:59:41And it reminded me a little of, you know, there's a phrase, John, in Matthew 23, where
00:59:49Jesus, this is his scathing denunciation of the religious leaders of his day.
00:59:54And he talks about them wearing phylacteries.
00:59:58That's a weird word, you know, in the New Testament.
01:00:01And if you don't know anything, you're wondering, what in the world is a phylactery?
01:00:04Well, what's interesting is back in Deuteronomy, I think it's Deuteronomy chapter six, where
01:00:10Moses, before they enter the promised land, is simply stressing to the nation of Israel
01:00:15the importance of God's word and his commandments.
01:00:19And this is a part of this Shema in Deuteronomy six, where he says, you need to think about
01:00:25God's word, speak about God's word.
01:00:27When you're sitting down, when you're lying down, when you rise up in your house, out
01:00:32of your house, and then he says, you know, wear them as frontlets in your eyes and bind
01:00:39them to your arm.
01:00:41And so he didn't literally mean that then, at least I don't think Moses literally meant
01:00:47that.
01:00:47I think he was simply trying to stress, keep God's word and his commandments close to you
01:00:53at all times and for all occasions.
01:00:56But what did the good Jewish mind do?
01:01:00Made him this little leather pouch and would wrap it around his forehead and put some scriptures
01:01:08inside that or wrap it around his arm, the part of his arm that's closest to his heart.
01:01:14That's what a phylactery was.
01:01:16And when I look at that, I think, you know, everyone is a little Jew or a little Catholic
01:01:22or a little denominational person at heart.
01:01:25It's so easy to miss the intent of scripture, but by golly, we're going to obey the letter
01:01:32of it.
01:01:33I've got me a phylactery.
01:01:35I've got me the word of God and I've got it wrapped around my forehead.
01:01:41Of course, that doesn't mean that it's in your heart.
01:01:44So, keep everything in balance and I think life will be good.
01:01:49Absolutely.
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