Agca afferma che avrebbe dovuto uccidere Lech Walesa, capo di Solidarnosc, con una bomba a radiocomando. Sergei Antonov, indicato da Agca, viene arrestato, ma si dichiara innocente. Agca conosce molto bene le abitudini di Antonov e dice di conoscerlo, ma sembra ripeta le informazioni contenute in un dossier, e inoltre tornerà a smentire tutto ciò che ha detto. Anche il rapimento di Emanuela Orlandi sembra in qualche oscuro modo intrecciato alle vicende dell'attentato al Papa.
Operazione Papa | 13 maggio 1981 [Doc 2026] HQ
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L'intervista ad Ali Agca | Linea diretta 1985 [Enzo Biagi]
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00:00:05On May 13, 1981 at 5:30 in the afternoon in St. Peter's Square in Rome an unknown young man
00:00:14An attempt on the life of His Holiness John Paul II. He was caught, captured, and transferred.
00:00:19At the anti-terrorism section of the police headquarters, the unknown man declared his name to be Mehmet.
00:00:24there he already has, of being of Turkish nationality and of having acted alone to protest against
00:00:30the injustices of the world. At the trial that was held shortly thereafter, he had already refused
00:00:36to answer questions and is sentenced to life imprisonment. But the judiciary, in the belief
00:00:42who has already travelled with the complicity of others, arranges for a more in-depth investigation of the case which is
00:00:47entrusted to an investigating judge of proven experience and tenacity. Thus begins a sort of
00:00:53of a two-way game between the judge and the already. The one firmly intent on unraveling the intrigue
00:00:59skein, the other instead engaged in his own indecipherable defensive strategy which alternates
00:01:05sullen silences and sudden sensational blows, now setting the cell on fire, now starting a
00:01:11hunger strike, now claiming to be the target of obscure death threats. Only after a few months
00:01:17and only when the judge already communicates that his year of isolation is about to end
00:01:22and that he will be placed in a cell with other inmates, the Turkish killer claims to have
00:01:27fear and wanting to tell the truth. During a long interrogation, in fact,
00:01:32He claims that the attack was commissioned to him, for a fee of 2 billion
00:01:37of lire, from the president of an association for the diffusion of Turkish culture in Germany,
00:01:42a certain Celebi, who in turn would have been commissioned by a mafia godfather
00:01:47Turkish man named Bekir Celenk. The judge quickly takes action, has Celebi arrested and
00:01:54forces him to make some important admissions during a stringent interrogation,
00:01:59but unfortunately he was forced to suffer a resounding defeat. The godfather of the Turkish mafia,
00:02:05who according to him would already be the real brains of the operation, evades arrest and disappears
00:02:10without leaving a trace. At this point, the only one who holds the key to the investigation
00:02:15It's Ali Aja, because and above all on behalf of those who the Turkish mafia wanted to kill
00:02:21The Pope. Pressed by the judge, Aja experiences days of great tension. The moment for him is approaching.
00:02:29of a decisive choice. You have nothing else to say to me. Yes, I have more to say, but I have to think.
00:03:02Yes, I have more to say, but I have to think.
00:03:41Thank you all.
00:03:59All right, let's start again then. Tell me this man's name.
00:04:11His name is Sotir Kolev. He's Bulgarian. He works for the Bulgarian secret service here in Rome.
00:04:20What? What did he say? Bulgarian secret services?
00:04:25I met him in Sofia in July 80. Bekir Celenchi introduced him to me.
00:04:32Celenchi and the Turkish mafia have been working for Bulgarian secret services for a long time.
00:04:38That's why Turkish mafia sent me to Sofia.
00:04:42Oh yes, you know very well that the secret services depend directly on the governments.
00:04:47Yes, certainly. He's perhaps accusing Bulgaria of being the true mastermind behind the assassination attempt on the Holy Father.
00:04:53Yes, that's the truth.
00:04:57The meeting in Sofia with Kolev, a man of photography, was the beginning of everything.
00:05:05Continue.
00:05:07I saw Kolev again in Rome with another Bulgarian, also from the secret service.
00:05:13I made the plan with them.
00:05:16They had a book, Vatican Tourist Guide, to study the route of the Pope's car.
00:05:25And what is this second Bulgarian called?
00:05:27Bayramic.
00:05:29But there was another one, Petrov.
00:05:32Why are you telling me these things only now?
00:05:36In May, when I spoke of the Turks as my accomplices, I still wasn't truly sorry.
00:05:45I wanted to make the Bulgarians understand that I was starting to speak.
00:05:50I was hoping for their help.
00:05:53But they didn't do anything for me.
00:05:56So what?
00:05:56I've decided, I'm telling the truth.
00:06:27I'll show you some photographs.
00:06:37Does anyone recognize her?
00:06:40Photo 1 is Sotir Kolev, photo man at St. Peter's.
00:06:462 is Bayramic.
00:06:49Bayramic once called Kolev by the name Totor.
00:06:52Kolev may be a false name.
00:06:58This is Petrov, secretary military attaché at the Bulgarian embassy.
00:07:03One moment, let's get this on the record.
00:07:06The man in photo number 1, who has already been said to be the man photographed from behind in St. Peter's Square,
00:07:14His name is Todor, Todor Aivazov.
00:07:18Cashier of the Bulgarian Embassy.
00:07:20And not Kolev.
00:07:23The man in photo 2 is Sergei Antonov, who holds the position of deputy station manager of Balkan Air.
00:07:30And not Bayramic.
00:07:33The man in photo 20 is not named Petrov.
00:07:38Instead, it is Jelio Vassiliev, secretary of the military attaché of the Bulgarian embassy.
00:07:46They gave false names.
00:07:48I suspected this.
00:07:50How did you meet Vassiliev?
00:07:51I met Vassiliev in Rome at the end of the 80s.
00:07:56I called the embassy to find him.
00:07:59I got the embassy numbers from Celenchi in Bulgaria.
00:08:05360-9648.
00:08:09360-9643.
00:08:11And 360-9645.
00:08:14For Vassiliev I had two more numbers.
00:08:173-2-7-2-6-2-9.
00:08:21And 3-2-7-2-9-7-0.
00:08:24Were you already planning the attack in December?
00:08:27No.
00:08:28For them I had to kill Lec Valesa, head of Solidarnosc, in Rome.
00:08:33Then they said no, don't kill Valesa anymore.
00:08:36And she would have killed him?
00:08:38Yes.
00:08:40With radio-controlled bomb.
00:08:42Even the telephone numbers of the Bulgarian embassy are accurate.
00:08:45And not only that.
00:08:47One of the three numbers he has already given us.
00:08:49It doesn't appear on any list.
00:08:51But that's right.
00:08:51This is a private line.
00:08:53The other two numbers are from telephones at Via Galiani 36.
00:08:57A building inhabited by employees of the Bulgarian embassy.
00:09:01We checked it and...
00:09:04The man in the photo in St. Peter's, Aivazov, lived right there.
00:09:08How did he live?
00:09:10Yes, he is in Bulgaria now.
00:09:13And the other one too, the...
00:09:15What is his name?
00:09:16The secretary of the military attaché of the Bulgarian embassy.
00:09:19Yes, Vasiliev.
00:09:20He also left for Sofia a short while ago.
00:09:22And Sergei Antonov?
00:09:24But he is there.
00:09:25His Balkaner office where he works has been put under surveillance.
00:09:33I think we should consult the government.
00:09:36This story...
00:09:37I have already spoken to the Prime Minister.
00:09:39I have already communicated to the government the decisions I have taken regarding the ongoing investigation.
00:09:43And there are no problems.
00:09:45Oh, good.
00:09:52Is this Sergei Antonov married?
00:09:54Yes, and he also has a little girl.
00:09:57His wife and daughter are in Bulgaria now.
00:10:00For almost a year.
00:10:03What kind of life does he lead?
00:10:04What kind of life does he lead?
00:10:06Home and work or work and home?
00:10:11I prepared Cattore's mandate.
00:10:15Are you arresting him?
00:10:36Situation under control.
00:11:11Sergei Antonov, you must come with me.
00:11:14But what?
00:11:14Don't make history.
00:11:16Who are you?
00:11:17It's the truck.
00:11:18But why?
00:11:19One moment.
00:11:21But who are you?
00:11:23Police, inside.
00:11:24No.
00:11:52Nothing over there.
00:11:53Did you look in the bathroom?
00:11:54Now I'm looking at it.
00:12:09Could this be the wife?
00:12:13Likely.
00:12:25These books need to be checked out too.
00:12:42She spoke of a guidebook through which she and her accomplices would have studied the Pope's itinerary.
00:12:49He would be able to recognize her.
00:13:01It's all a fabrication.
00:13:04I'm seeing this man for the first time today.
00:13:06Day 13 May.
00:13:08You were also in St. Peter's Square.
00:13:11In a blue car.
00:13:13After the attack, you were supposed to take me in that car to the Bulgarian embassy.
00:13:21Where a large truck was waiting for me.
00:13:24With that truck, I had to leave Italy.
00:13:28But what is he saying?
00:13:29It's false.
00:13:30No.
00:13:32It's all true.
00:13:35I had to escape in a big truck.
00:13:38I am a simple employee.
00:13:40At that time I was in the office.
00:13:41I remember, it was 5:30 pm.
00:13:43A colleague's mother called.
00:13:45Excuse me, what time do you...
00:13:465:30 in the afternoon.
00:13:47He wanted to talk to his daughter.
00:13:49He had seen some images of the Pope on television.
00:13:51He didn't understand well because he doesn't know Italian.
00:13:54This is the truth.
00:13:55I know your office phone number.
00:13:598-5-7-3-7-1.
00:14:03And how do you know him?
00:14:06He must have read it on a list.
00:14:07I know your house, on Via Pola.
00:14:10Via Pola?
00:14:11Third floor.
00:14:12But who told her these things?
00:14:14And on May 10th, three days before the attack, I was in your house.
00:14:21Aivazov was also there.
00:14:23Aivazov?
00:14:24The one in your photograph, judge.
00:14:28And Vasiliev too.
00:14:30Vasiliev.
00:14:31Your wife was there too.
00:14:33My wife?
00:14:34But you're crazy!
00:14:35What does Rosizza have to do with all this?
00:14:37You called her Rosi.
00:14:40Oh Rose.
00:14:45Please answer.
00:14:46Is it true that you called your wife by this diminutive?
00:14:53Yes.
00:14:54I called her Rosi.
00:14:55Rose.
00:14:56Yes.
00:15:22It's a note from my little girl.
00:15:30She told so many lies.
00:15:34Lies.
00:15:36I'm struggling now.
00:15:39Here, he said that when he met me I had a beard.
00:15:42It is not true.
00:15:43I have been wearing a mustache for over three years.
00:15:45Maybe it was fake.
00:15:47You had a beard, that's for sure, Baira Amici.
00:15:50A fake beard.
00:15:51It's absurd.
00:15:52And stop calling me by that name.
00:15:54She's a murderer and she calls me yours.
00:15:55When you were Baira Amici to me, I really gave you my all.
00:15:59And I don't want you to call me Baira Amici.
00:16:00Who is this Baira Amici?
00:16:01You're not a good actor, Baira Amici.
00:16:04She is provoking me, but this will not go unpunished.
00:16:07Are you threatening me with death?
00:16:11Your Honor, this man says things that...
00:16:16I am completely innocent.
00:16:18I don't know what things he's talking about.
00:16:22This is a nightmare.
00:16:23We can stop for a moment, if you want.
00:16:28Thank you.
00:16:30In any case, if you feel unfairly accused,
00:16:34it is his precise right to defend himself, to reply.
00:16:39And then why should he accuse someone he doesn't even know?
00:16:44That's what I'm wondering too.
00:16:48And maybe I'll ask myself that for the rest of my life.
00:16:50Excuse me, Judge, excuse me.
00:16:52It seems to me that only one important fact has emerged here today.
00:16:57Antono says he was informed of the attack in his office
00:17:00from a phone call from a colleague's mother.
00:17:04Sure, Antono says it was 5:30 in the afternoon.
00:17:07If he was in the office, he couldn't have been in St. Peter's Square.
00:17:11We will do the necessary checks, lawyer.
00:17:135.30pm is a very precise reference.
00:17:17We'll check, don't worry.
00:17:19Yes, I confirm it.
00:17:21Antono passed the call to me.
00:17:23My mother used to say
00:17:24they shot the Pope.
00:17:26I saw him fall.
00:17:28I saw him fall.
00:17:29She is certain of what she says.
00:17:31His mother's words were just
00:17:33I saw him fall, I saw him fall.
00:17:36Yes, I saw him fall, I saw him fall.
00:17:40Do you remember the time?
00:17:45More or less.
00:17:48I don't remember the exact time.
00:17:50It may have been 5:30 or 6:00 pm.
00:17:54I don't remember exactly.
00:17:55We don't know the conditions,
00:17:58that is, we do not know the condition of John Paul II.
00:18:02Thank you.
00:18:03The crowd that thronged...
00:18:05And that's all that was said and seen.
00:18:08on the news of May 13, 1981
00:18:10at 5.35 pm.
00:18:12Yes, that's all.
00:18:14Listen, when was the first footage broadcast?
00:18:17with images of the Pope
00:18:18who was bending over wounded aboard his jeep?
00:18:21With the 7pm news.
00:18:23I checked at the cinema.
00:18:24So what if someone had been in front of the TV that day?
00:18:27Only agency press releases until 7pm
00:18:30and photos from our repertoire.
00:18:32Are you sure there are no images of the attack?
00:18:35Nothing.
00:18:36We didn't have an outside team that day at St. Peter's.
00:18:39And the videos broadcast at 7pm
00:18:41they were sent to us by German television.
00:18:43But they got here just in time
00:18:44for the evening news.
00:18:46So at 5.35pm
00:18:48no images of the attack on the Pope were broadcast.
00:18:52She is sure of it.
00:18:53More than safe.
00:18:55Absolutely, Judge.
00:19:02Thank you.
00:19:03Duty.
00:19:04Thank you.
00:19:08Even a terrace overlooking Rome.
00:19:11Already.
00:19:12Listen, if you don't want to tell me your name
00:19:14at least tell me what you do.
00:19:17I work for my government, which is also yours.
00:19:20Isn't that enough for you?
00:19:21I would say no.
00:19:23Especially because I still don't understand what he wants from me.
00:19:28It is true that she is seeking contact with a figure in the Bulgarian secret services.
00:19:33which has now passed to the Greeks.
00:19:36She's joking.
00:19:38Is she seeking this contact with him or not?
00:19:43What if it were?
00:19:47She wrote some disturbing things.
00:19:49Reading his articles
00:19:50it almost seems like the attack against the Pope
00:19:52could become a second evening.
00:19:55I'm just advising you to be cautious.
00:19:58Forget this Bulgarian agent and the Bulgarian lead too.
00:20:01And all the rest of the story.
00:20:04CIA Director Casey
00:20:06which I imagine you know well
00:20:08let our press know
00:20:11that he doesn't believe in the Bulgarian lead at all
00:20:14but he does not provide a single proof of what he believes.
00:20:19Why doesn't the CIA want to get to the bottom of this story?
00:20:22What is he afraid of?
00:20:25Go all the way?
00:20:26And to find out what?
00:20:27The truth?
00:20:28And what if the truth is what she supposes
00:20:31what would happen?
00:20:33But I...
00:20:33No, let me tell you.
00:20:36It would be like putting the world on top of an atomic bomb.
00:20:39Don't you think you're exaggerating?
00:20:42No, not at all.
00:20:46Maybe she's trying to tell me
00:20:48that the truth could be so serious
00:20:50is silence recommended?
00:20:53That's why nobody lifted a finger
00:20:55to help the judge.
00:20:57And you first.
00:21:00The judge should also be more cautious.
00:21:04No one can ever convince an honest man
00:21:07like the judge to give up the truth.
00:21:11What if this honest man is wrong?
00:21:14What if Hachia was manipulated?
00:21:19Manipulated?
00:21:19Manipulated by whom?
00:21:21I do not know.
00:21:22Maybe from a deviant side
00:21:24of the Italian secret services.
00:21:27They are rumors.
00:21:28The judge only needs evidence.
00:21:31Then give him the proof, if you have it.
00:21:34If we had them, we would have already given them to him.
00:21:41Yes?
00:21:43Does the commissioner want it?
00:21:50Yes, here I am.
00:21:51Is there any news?
00:21:52Not good.
00:21:53There was a press conference in Sofia an hour ago.
00:21:56Ivazov was also present.
00:21:58So what?
00:21:59Well, Ivazov, the man in the photo in St. Peter's,
00:22:03it's very tall.
00:22:04Big and massive.
00:22:05It looks like a wardrobe.
00:22:06I understand.
00:22:07He's taller than he described,
00:22:09it's already more robust.
00:22:11I will provide you with more precise data
00:22:13as soon as I have all the details.
00:22:15Thank you, thank you.
00:22:29She accused an innocent man.
00:22:47This man is not Ivazov.
00:22:51For a year she has continued to lie about this photo.
00:22:54Why?
00:23:02I need to know otherwise everything he has told me so far
00:23:05it will have no value to me.
00:23:07It means he lied about the rest, too.
00:23:15So who is this man?
00:23:21A friend, a brother.
00:23:25His name?
00:23:29Oral.
00:23:32Oral.
00:23:33Oral Celik.
00:23:34Oral Celik.
00:23:35Is that really his real name?
00:23:37Yes.
00:23:40She did everything to cover it up.
00:23:43Is he such an important character in this story?
00:23:47In this story I don't know.
00:23:50In my story, yes.
00:23:53Celik also comes from Malatia like me.
00:23:58The two of us always close.
00:24:01From Malatya to Saint Peter.
00:24:06We worked for the Turkish mafia.
00:24:09And we did blackmail, extortion, smuggling.
00:24:15We were earning well.
00:24:17In Türkiye I was Mr. Ali Aja.
00:24:22She doesn't know what it means to have money in Türkiye.
00:24:27She is Celik.
00:24:29Were you gray wolves?
00:24:30Yes.
00:24:31But what are the gray wolves?
00:24:33There is no ideology in Grey Wolves.
00:24:36We did everything for money.
00:24:40And she killed the journalist Ipecchi for money.
00:24:44I didn't kill Ipecchi.
00:24:48Oral shot.
00:24:50On the orders of the Turkish mafia.
00:24:54And his friend Celik sent her to prison in his place?
00:24:59No, on the contrary.
00:25:01He got me out of prison.
00:25:03He arranged my escape.
00:25:06After him he came to Bulgaria.
00:25:09Sickness was no longer enough for us.
00:25:12Istanbul was no longer enough for us.
00:25:15We wanted the world.
00:25:17So when I needed secrets the Bulgarians said
00:25:20Kill the Pope.
00:25:23We went.
00:25:25Oh yes, you are truly sorry.
00:25:28What is repentance for you?
00:25:31Discovering that there is a moral code
00:25:33and that this moral code applies to everyone,
00:25:36for every single man.
00:25:38Man is mud.
00:25:42God of Quran says
00:25:44it's not you who kills
00:25:48but God.
00:25:52you are not the one who shoots the arrow.
00:25:55It is God who throws it for you.
00:25:57But yours is not a holy war, Mrs. Già.
00:26:01His God does not...
00:26:02I don't have a God of my own.
00:26:04I also read the Gospel.
00:26:07I like Jesus a lot.
00:26:09He was a poor man who loved the poor.
00:26:13I, on the other hand, have pity for the poor but not love.
00:26:16The poor have consumed everything.
00:26:19The dress they have, the hands
00:26:21and above all the eyes.
00:26:24For me the poor can kill.
00:26:27There's always someone ready to kill them anyway.
00:26:30sooner or later.
00:26:31one way or another.
00:26:49Yes, ready.
00:26:51Ah, hello dear Dindy.
00:26:53Yes.
00:26:55But what time is it?
00:27:00I'm coming home soon.
00:27:03Tell the boys to wait for me.
00:27:05I haven't seen them for three days.
00:27:09Yes.
00:27:10Yes, soon.
00:27:13Well, I'm coming.
00:27:14Bye bye.
00:27:22I have repeated a lot all this time, Mr. Judge.
00:27:26And I remembered that my wife was not in Rome on May 10th.
00:27:29He was in Sofia.
00:27:31May 10th.
00:27:33The day the gentleman already said he had been to her.
00:27:35Yes, he is clearly lying when he says he saw her at my house.
00:27:39It was there.
00:27:42She offered pastries
00:27:44and you too.
00:27:45The Krastevs,
00:27:47who are our family friends,
00:27:49they can testify.
00:27:50They left Rome on May 8th
00:27:52in the car, together with my wife,
00:27:54headed to Sofia.
00:27:54Your friends don't matter.
00:27:56Madam, yes.
00:27:58Leave it to me to judge who counts and who doesn't.
00:28:00Just answer, okay?
00:28:03You collect small bottles of liquor.
00:28:07Me, yes.
00:28:08Yes, I often buy miniature bottles.
00:28:10What's the point?
00:28:11Do you like American music, pop, stuff like that?
00:28:14Yes, jazz.
00:28:15And flowers too.
00:28:16You often bring flowers in your car, don't you?
00:28:18Well, it may have happened.
00:28:20I saw them.
00:28:21It is not true!
00:28:22And I also know what you don't like.
00:28:24What?
00:28:24Number one, walking.
00:28:27You breathe badly afterwards.
00:28:28Well, yes, maybe I sometimes...
00:28:30Number two.
00:28:31Your Honor,
00:28:32he already knows Antonov's habits very well.
00:28:36Too good, I'd say.
00:28:38Explain yourself, lawyer.
00:28:41They look like data from a traffic card.
00:28:44It almost seems as if he doesn't actually know Mr. Antonov,
00:28:47but rather know a dossier on Antonov.
00:28:50The problem is who provided him with this dossier.
00:28:53You don't know what dossier is.
00:28:55No file says the nickname of a man's wife.
00:28:58He called her Rossi.
00:28:59Oh yeah!
00:29:00Stop it!
00:29:01The lawyer is talking to me.
00:29:03And you too, if you have knowledge of concrete facts, speak up.
00:29:07Otherwise, keep quiet.
00:29:09I made a simple deduction.
00:29:10A deduction?
00:29:12She claims she already has is not telling the truth.
00:29:15But then, when he has already said proven things,
00:29:18tested by objective clashes,
00:29:19then he says he was manipulated.
00:29:21And you call this deduction?
00:29:23I didn't find out, he's already a liar.
00:29:26Oh yes, always has already.
00:29:27But let's talk about others for once.
00:29:30What are others doing?
00:29:31Mr. Celebi keeps contradicting himself.
00:29:35Mr. Antonoff, whom you assist,
00:29:37he presents an alibi that doesn't hold up.
00:29:38And this whole story is a load of lies.
00:29:42And what does she want to deduce?
00:29:44And the fact is that nobody here tells the truth.
00:29:47Absolutely no one.
00:29:48And the truth in this investigation
00:29:49it is constantly trampled on by everyone,
00:29:52always humiliated.
00:29:53I can't stand all these lies anymore,
00:29:55of all these miseries.
00:29:56And now I say enough, enough.
00:29:58That's it, I'm done for today.
00:30:04On the disappearance of the official's daughter
00:30:07of the Vatican State
00:30:08there is no news.
00:30:10By the young Emanuela Orlandi
00:30:11it has nothing to do with it, there is none,
00:30:13despite the feverish searches.
00:30:15The father seems to have studied
00:30:17that the girl may have left home
00:30:19of his own free will.
00:30:21Vatican sources questioned today on the matter
00:30:24they entrenched themselves behind a strict no comment.
00:30:27At the moment all hypotheses are possible,
00:30:30even the kidnapping.
00:30:32In Catania many people are...
00:30:46So why did he want to see me?
00:30:54I am waiting.
00:31:01I said things that aren't true.
00:31:07The attack I had to do
00:31:10against the leader of Solidarnocht,
00:31:13Lech Walesa,
00:31:15It's my invention.
00:31:19And that's all?
00:31:21No, not yet.
00:31:22I don't know Antonov's wife.
00:31:25And I've never been to Antonov's house.
00:31:29neither May 10th nor any other date.
00:31:32Continue.
00:31:33I finished.
00:31:35So how did he describe the apartment?
00:31:37When Antonov was arrested,
00:31:41I read this in the newspapers
00:31:43and I also saw it on TV.
00:31:46Why then did he bring up this story?
00:31:48of the plan for an attack in Vauenza?
00:31:50For what reason?
00:31:54During those days I said many things,
00:31:58but she didn't believe me.
00:32:00It was always too little for her.
00:32:04I realize that
00:32:05It's hard to believe in a killer.
00:32:09I wanted to trust him.
00:32:14Did he want to gain my trust?
00:32:16And he was telling me lies?
00:32:18His is a really strange mentality.
00:32:35Good morning, Giucci.
00:32:36Good morning.
00:32:58When did this announcement arrive?
00:33:01Two hours ago.
00:33:03They ask for the exchange with the girl.
00:33:07Were Emanuele's parents informed?
00:33:11Yes.
00:33:17He has an accident right here.
00:33:18Turn, turn, take another lane.
00:33:20Go.
00:33:25Answer me clearly.
00:33:28Are you familiar with this anti-Christian front Turques?
00:33:32The Turkish anti-Christian front does not exist.
00:33:36It's a fake name.
00:33:37These gentlemen are asking for his freedom
00:33:40in exchange for that of Emanuele Orlandi.
00:33:42Who is behind this acronym?
00:33:44Maybe someone who is my friend and wants me to be free again.
00:33:51But I don't want to, because I know that it's my only hope of freedom.
00:33:56is to collaborate with Italian justice.
00:33:59But she also knows that he was sentenced to life in prison.
00:34:03I hope for the grace of the President of the Republic.
00:34:07I don't know anything about Emanuele Orlandi.
00:34:11I swear.
00:34:12Leave aside the oaths and answer me.
00:34:15When he learned of the kidnapping.
00:34:16Today?
00:34:18Oh yes, no newspapers, no TV.
00:34:21I only read important things.
00:34:23Why do you think this is a joke?
00:34:26It is a cruel and futile undertaking.
00:34:30It is clear that the Italian state will never give in to this blackmail.
00:34:35And they know it.
00:34:38So what do they want, huh?
00:34:42I don't know that.
00:34:44Really, I don't know.
00:34:46Or maybe she retracted what she said about Wawensa,
00:34:50about Mrs. Antonov, about the house on Via Pola,
00:34:53just to send a message to his friends,
00:34:55to tell them I understand that you are moving to get me out.
00:34:59This is not true.
00:35:01Oh yeah, it's about the life of a 15-year-old girl.
00:35:06a girl who has nothing to do with this story.
00:35:11If he knows even the smallest trace
00:35:14that can lead us to her,
00:35:17tell us.
00:35:19This could indeed soften the state's attitude.
00:35:22towards him.
00:35:23No, sorry.
00:35:25I really don't know anything.
00:35:42Oh yeah, what do you know about Morlandi?
00:35:44Is it true that he wants the exchange?
00:35:45Have you thought about her being released?
00:35:47I appeal to the conscience of Emanuela's kidnappers.
00:35:51Free the poor girl.
00:35:53I have nothing to do with certain criminals and terrorists.
00:35:59I am with Italy,
00:36:01with the Italian people,
00:36:04with the Vatican.
00:36:06I repeat publicly,
00:36:08I condemn this criminal act.
00:36:10I say it's inhumane.
00:36:13I condemn with great permission.
00:36:16I reject any kind of freedom.
00:36:19I...
00:36:19I am against everything these terrorists have done.
00:36:26The Italian state must respond with permission.
00:36:29I am sorry for the attempt on the Pope's life.
00:36:34I admire Pope.
00:36:37I thank the Italian justice system,
00:36:40to the Italian state.
00:36:44I can say that I feel very good in Italian prisons.
00:36:48And still I appeal.
00:36:51Let the girl go.
00:36:53She's just a poor innocent.
00:36:55But who are those terrorists?
00:36:57Oh yeah, I'm on the news.
00:36:58I don't know, I don't know.
00:36:59Stay away.
00:37:22Here, from Türkiye.
00:37:24I don't accept anything from Türkiye.
00:37:26I have to give it to you anyway.
00:37:28And then you do what you want.
00:37:30I sent it to you badly.
00:38:22Son, your brother left for the military.
00:38:25He will wear a uniform for a long time.
00:38:28So I'm sending you his clothes.
00:38:32He has to go away and we are left alone.
00:38:36How will we live?
00:38:37How are we going to get by?
00:38:41I'm so scared because the newspapers say someone wants to kill you.
00:38:46But that can't be true.
00:38:48They are lies.
00:38:49I found an old notebook with some poems written by you.
00:38:55The poor walk like dead people on the earth.
00:38:59That's what you wrote.
00:39:01I know.
00:39:03You were talking about us.
00:39:05Dead, alive.
00:39:08I hope God protects us.
00:39:12I went back to Eichiman for a day.
00:39:15Your father's house has a cave-in roof.
00:39:19It was raining.
00:39:20And the water came right into the room where I put the world for you.
00:39:25I entered.
00:39:27I sat down in a corner.
00:39:30And I cried.
00:39:33I cry often since you've been gone.
00:39:36Your brother, on the other hand, doesn't.
00:39:38He says you will return one day free and honored.
00:39:42About you.
00:39:44And upon all of us I invoke God's blessing.
00:40:04The judge is in Sofia where he will stay for a few days.
00:40:07He must conclude the interrogations of Elio Vassiliev and Todor Aivazov.
00:40:12The two Bulgarians accused of being accomplices of the Turk Ali Aja.
00:40:15In the attack on the Holy Father.
00:40:18The judge is expected to return to Rome on July 20.
00:40:21Exactly the day the icy ultimatum expires.
00:40:24Launched by the kidnappers of young Emanuela Orlandi.
00:40:29Welcome back, Judge.
00:40:31Thank you.
00:40:33But what is this deployment?
00:40:35Please.
00:40:36Did something happen?
00:40:38Threats have arrived.
00:40:41Phone calls, anonymous letters.
00:40:44Death threats.
00:40:45Death threats.
00:40:47Addressed to me?
00:40:48Yes, but also to his family.
00:40:50Surveillance is already in place.
00:40:52I walked her home.
00:40:54Is there any news on the kidnapping of Emanuela Orlandi?
00:40:57No, unfortunately not.
00:40:58And the ultimatum expires today.
00:41:01Let's go to Rebibbia prison right away, please.
00:41:13The kidnappers' ultimatum expires today.
00:41:17Does she know?
00:41:18Yes.
00:41:19I ask you again.
00:41:22If you have even the slightest information about this tragedy,
00:41:25please speak.
00:41:27We might still be in time.
00:41:30But right away, please.
00:41:33I've already said everything I had to say.
00:41:36Good morning, Judge.
00:41:37Sorry for the delay, Judge.
00:41:39I'm the defense substitute.
00:41:41My colleague can't come today.
00:41:43It was a sudden idea to come here.
00:41:47I must inform you that soon some Bulgarian judges
00:41:50they will come to Rome to question her.
00:41:51There is an ongoing criminal case against her in Bulgaria.
00:41:55for having entered that country illegally.
00:41:59When will they come?
00:42:00In the meantime, I contest a whole series of false statements.
00:42:04She stated that Vassiliev was about 10 centimeters taller than Iaivazov.
00:42:09This is not true.
00:42:11And Vassiliev, the secretary of the military attaché of the Bulgarian embassy,
00:42:15he says he doesn't know him.
00:42:18Vassiliev has a kind of mole here,
00:42:21dark red in color.
00:42:23She is off by about 10 centimeters on the height of a man,
00:42:26but he also remembers that he has a mole on his left cheekbone,
00:42:31as if they had actually shown her a signboard.
00:42:34But does she know?
00:42:35I have been in solitary confinement for two years.
00:42:38Speaking of isolation,
00:42:40he knows that the chaplain of the Ascoli Picene penitentiary
00:42:43he was arrested following a judicial investigation
00:42:48on alleged members of the Camorra.
00:42:52When she wrote that letter to the Vatican,
00:42:56in which he claimed that a priest had threatened to kill him,
00:42:59he was referring to him.
00:43:02Never had any death threats.
00:43:04I was inventing.
00:43:05It seems that in the prison of Ascoli Piceno
00:43:09elements belonging to the Camorra
00:43:10they worked under the orders of a deviated party
00:43:13of the Italian secret services.
00:43:15It seems that the chaplain was also involved in this story.
00:43:19I don't know anything about this.
00:43:22He was just nice to me.
00:43:24He gave me his gospel.
00:43:27Ai Vazove claims he did not do any site inspections with her
00:43:30in St. Peter's Square because
00:43:32right on those days, both May 12th and 13th,
00:43:35he was busy at the Roman steps of San Lorenzo
00:43:38to clear customs for goods arriving from Bulgaria.
00:43:42Goods transported by truck?
00:43:45But how do you know?
00:43:50I don't know if this truck has arrived or not.
00:43:54I only know that the Bulgarians had said
00:43:57that a truck was taking me out of Italy after the attack.
00:44:01But I already said this, it's written, remember?
00:44:06Ai Vazove said that he was very busy in those days
00:44:09because the truck had to restart immediately, just in time.
00:44:11With Mehmet Aliya already inside.
00:44:14Stop smiling.
00:44:16There's nothing to laugh about.
00:44:18There is a family in despair right now.
00:44:22I don't let her smile.
00:44:27But what does she know about desperation?
00:44:31What?
00:44:33I am closer to Emanuela's father and mother than she is.
00:44:37And to the girl too.
00:44:42I know fear.
00:44:45I know terror when you are threatened with death.
00:44:50What do you know about these things?
00:44:53Nothing.
00:44:55She came home this evening.
00:45:01He sits in the armchair
00:45:03near his wife and children.
00:45:06In peace and quiet.
00:45:09It is not so.
00:45:11Yes, I would like to.
00:45:40Yes, I would like to.
00:45:49Come on, we're going to the movies late.
00:45:51Greetings.
00:45:52Good evening.
00:45:53Some time ago, someone you may know.
00:45:56She advised me against meeting her.
00:45:59Perhaps out of professional jealousy.
00:46:00Then a concerned colleague
00:46:02because I was first with the Bulgarians
00:46:04or why do I work for the Greeks now?
00:46:06I do not know.
00:46:07But certainly worried
00:46:09from my investigation into the Aciano case.
00:46:11What would you like, madam?
00:46:12For me, a margherita pizza and a beer, please.
00:46:15And her?
00:46:16A yogurt.
00:46:17Well.
00:46:17No, better two.
00:46:19All right.
00:46:21Can I record?
00:46:22No.
00:46:23And he can't even write.
00:46:25Just listen.
00:46:27But some time ago
00:46:28I read the interview
00:46:29which she has granted exclusively
00:46:31to the French newspaper Liberation.
00:46:33He's so secretive now.
00:46:35Why?
00:46:36Everyone can make mistakes.
00:46:38But intelligent men
00:46:39they don't make the same mistake twice.
00:46:41In that interview
00:46:42she said it was possible
00:46:43that the Bulgarian secret services
00:46:45had organized
00:46:46the attempt on the Pope's life.
00:46:49He said that technically
00:46:50it was a possible thing.
00:46:52That's their style.
00:46:53It could be clearer.
00:46:56he thought about the gun
00:46:58the Browning.
00:47:00The registration number
00:47:02it wasn't filed down
00:47:03and the registration number
00:47:04of a weapon
00:47:05it's worth a signature.
00:47:08Therefore,
00:47:08first,
00:47:10the police
00:47:11it goes back up easily
00:47:12to whoever sold it.
00:47:14And he discovers
00:47:15who is a Nazi
00:47:16who sells weapons
00:47:17to other Nazis.
00:47:18Second,
00:47:19who is agia?
00:47:20The police know it
00:47:22and a little Nazi
00:47:23him too
00:47:24with these elements
00:47:26that carry
00:47:27everyone to the right.
00:47:28Who could ever
00:47:30imagine
00:47:30that the principals
00:47:31I'm in Sofia
00:47:32or in Moscow?
00:47:34These are
00:47:35his conjectures?
00:47:37Yes,
00:47:37Surely.
00:47:38It's a speech
00:47:39on the possible
00:47:41not on certainties.
00:47:44But
00:47:44he already has
00:47:45he had written
00:47:46a letter
00:47:46already two years before
00:47:47of the attack
00:47:48and in this letter
00:47:49he declared
00:47:50of wanting to assassinate
00:47:51the Pope
00:47:52and he wrote it
00:47:53before going
00:47:54in Bulgaria.
00:47:56This
00:47:57strengthens
00:47:57my hypothesis
00:47:58and maybe
00:47:59in case
00:48:01of Agia
00:48:01we meet
00:48:02in front of
00:48:02to an authentic
00:48:03masterpiece.
00:48:05Follow me.
00:48:07We have
00:48:08a Nazi
00:48:09four-penny
00:48:10and one
00:48:11which already has
00:48:11killed
00:48:12who has
00:48:13even
00:48:14made public
00:48:15his intention
00:48:16to kill
00:48:17the Pope
00:48:18reflect
00:48:19if she
00:48:20I wanted to
00:48:21eliminate
00:48:21the Pontiff
00:48:22which one is better
00:48:24performer
00:48:24of this man
00:48:25it shouldn't go
00:48:27to look for it
00:48:27everywhere?
00:48:28But
00:48:29I wouldn't invite him
00:48:29at my house
00:48:30or to do
00:48:31a tour
00:48:31on my car
00:48:32like that Antonov
00:48:33and of course
00:48:34I wouldn't talk to him
00:48:35of myself
00:48:36of my family.
00:48:37And why not?
00:48:38Well
00:48:39one who must
00:48:40to take action
00:48:41similar
00:48:42it should be pampered
00:48:43it is necessary
00:48:44show it
00:48:45friendship
00:48:45trust
00:48:46must
00:48:47give her
00:48:47the feeling
00:48:48which can
00:48:49to count
00:48:49about us
00:48:50that we
00:48:51we will pull it
00:48:51out
00:48:52some troubles
00:48:53etc.
00:48:54so much
00:48:55will come
00:48:56killed
00:48:56And so
00:48:58she says
00:48:59That...
00:49:00Yes
00:49:01Anyway
00:49:02had gone
00:49:03things
00:49:03Alia
00:49:04it would already be
00:49:04state
00:49:05eliminated
00:49:06him
00:49:07he doesn't know
00:49:07but
00:49:08must thank
00:49:09that nun
00:49:09who took it
00:49:10for the arm
00:49:11in St. Peter's
00:49:11not even her
00:49:12he knew it
00:49:13but that day
00:49:14he did his part
00:49:15good deed
00:49:15and saved him
00:49:16life
00:49:17Thank you
00:49:26he knows
00:49:27this is the only one
00:49:28place in Rome
00:49:29where they have
00:49:29a yogurt
00:49:30that is approaching
00:49:31to that
00:49:31by Sofia
00:49:35What
00:49:36she is shocked
00:49:39Look
00:49:41All services
00:49:42secrets
00:49:43they behave
00:49:44Like this
00:49:44in this type
00:49:45of operation
00:49:46on this side
00:49:46of the world
00:49:47and on the other
00:49:48The judge
00:49:49then he's right
00:49:50The further it goes
00:49:52and the more it sinks
00:49:53in a world
00:49:54of honey
00:49:56Yes
00:49:56this is not
00:49:58a job
00:49:58for gentlemen
00:49:59but it's useful
00:50:00and it serves
00:50:01to its purpose
00:50:01What does it mean?
00:50:03does it serve its purpose?
00:50:05It means
00:50:06which is useful
00:50:07to both of you
00:50:08the contenders
00:50:09to be able to defend
00:50:10his own conception
00:50:11of the world
00:50:12and his own
00:50:13life model
00:50:14And this defense
00:50:16defense of one's own
00:50:18life model
00:50:19as she says
00:50:21justify
00:50:21the political assassination
00:50:23justifies the massacres
00:50:24bombs in restaurants
00:50:25or on a train
00:50:26in a dark tunnel
00:50:30TV said
00:50:33what a Pope
00:50:34comes to Repibia
00:50:37is he coming for me?
00:50:39Yes
00:50:39for you too
00:50:41he comes to ask me
00:50:43to help
00:50:43the family
00:50:44Orlandi
00:50:44True?
00:50:46is he coming for this?
00:50:48No
00:50:48comes to be
00:50:50Neighbor
00:50:50to those who suffer
00:50:55I wanted to kill him
00:50:58and he forgave me
00:51:03maybe Pope knows
00:51:04that I am not
00:51:05really guilty
00:51:08Yes
00:51:09maybe he knows
00:51:10What?
00:51:13it's been a long time
00:51:14that I have in my head
00:51:16a question
00:51:16for him
00:51:18remember
00:51:19the third mystery
00:51:20of Fatima?
00:51:23I want to ask
00:51:34the announced meeting
00:51:36between John
00:51:37Paul II
00:51:37and Agia
00:51:38it arouses great emotion
00:51:40in world public opinion
00:51:41the shadow
00:51:43of the ultimatum
00:51:44of July 20
00:51:45of the raptors
00:51:45of the young woman
00:51:46Emanuela Orlandi
00:51:47it's far away
00:51:48and it has diluted
00:51:50months later
00:51:51in a new hope
00:51:52for the girl
00:51:53and also for his parents
00:51:56the supreme pontiff
00:51:57just a few days ago
00:51:58brought
00:51:59to the Orlandi family
00:52:01the comfort
00:52:02and the promise
00:52:02that the church
00:52:03he won't leave them alone
00:52:04and indeed will do
00:52:06everything possible
00:52:07because their little girl
00:52:08may be
00:52:09subtracted
00:52:09to an atrocious fate
00:52:11it may be that the meeting
00:52:13with Agia
00:52:13it's a way
00:52:14to maintain
00:52:15that promise
00:52:15but now
00:52:16let's talk
00:52:17the images
00:52:18that alone
00:52:19they will be able to give us
00:52:19the meaning
00:52:20of moral greatness
00:52:21of this exceptional
00:52:22event
00:52:48the Holy Father now greets
00:52:50and blesses some
00:52:51of the prisoners
00:52:51in the arm
00:52:52of the prison
00:52:53of Repibbia
00:52:53this is exactly
00:52:55the same arm
00:52:55in which Alia
00:52:56he already lives in isolation
00:53:06Here you are
00:53:07here we are now
00:53:08it's a charged moment
00:53:09of emotion
00:53:12the pope is approaching
00:53:14to Agia's cell
00:53:16Agia is there
00:53:16we see it outside
00:53:17of his own cell
00:53:18waiting for the Pope
00:53:21and behold the holy father
00:53:22now it's right in front of him
00:53:25Agia bends down
00:53:26with respect
00:53:27before him
00:53:42it is impossible to hear
00:53:44how much Agia
00:53:46he's whispering
00:53:47to the Holy Father
00:53:49effectively
00:53:51it's already an exceptional thing
00:53:53that the cameras
00:53:54have had
00:53:55the possibility
00:53:55to get so close
00:53:57enough now
00:53:58enough with the filming
00:54:13ready
00:54:15ready listen
00:54:16Please
00:54:16inform the Bulgarian judges
00:54:18Ormanco
00:54:18and Rakov
00:54:19that the interrogation
00:54:21of Agia
00:54:21it was fixed
00:54:22for tomorrow morning
00:54:23in Rebibbia
00:54:23at exactly nine o'clock
00:54:25Yes
00:54:26they were waiting for confirmation
00:54:27Thank you
00:54:33Yes
00:54:33I entered Bulgaria
00:54:35but first days
00:54:36July 80
00:54:38there
00:54:39at the Vitosha Hotel
00:54:40I saw Mersan
00:54:42for the first time
00:54:43it seems to me
00:54:44which was July 5th
00:54:45maybe 6
00:54:46he gave me
00:54:48money and protection
00:54:49and also passport
00:54:51with my photo
00:54:52but with a false name
00:54:54or Zgun
00:54:56Then
00:54:56August 31st
00:54:57I left Bulgaria
00:54:59from Valico
00:54:59Calotin
00:55:00towards Yugoslavia
00:55:01I read them
00:55:03the dispute
00:55:03of my colleague
00:55:04Ormancov
00:55:05the direction
00:55:06of the Vitosha Hotel
00:55:07he communicated
00:55:08that Omer Mersan
00:55:09it appears in the register
00:55:10of the presences
00:55:11but starting
00:55:12from July 22nd
00:55:13so it doesn't appear
00:55:13that there was
00:55:14neither 5th nor 6th July
00:55:15as she claims
00:55:16I repeat
00:55:18I saw Mersan
00:55:20or July 5th
00:55:21or 6
00:55:22at Hotel Vitosha
00:55:24Thank you
00:55:28this is a document
00:55:30of the ministry
00:55:30of internal affairs
00:55:31department 72 800
00:55:32this department
00:55:34check the steps
00:55:35border
00:55:36it says here
00:55:37that in 1980
00:55:38Mersan
00:55:39he arrived in Sofia
00:55:40with international flight
00:55:41on date
00:55:41July 22nd
00:55:43I confirm
00:55:44my days
00:55:45Omer Mersan
00:55:46it was at Vitosha hotel
00:55:47July 5th
00:55:48and July 15th
00:55:49he presented
00:55:50me Bekir Celenchi
00:55:52this is another one
00:55:53document
00:55:54of the ministry
00:55:54internal affairs
00:55:55department 72 800
00:55:57Celenchi has left
00:55:58Sofia via
00:55:59international flight
00:56:00on date
00:56:01July 15th
00:56:02Bekir Celenchi
00:56:03he left after
00:56:04who spoke
00:56:04with me
00:56:05Mersan
00:56:05in the afternoon
00:56:07and how does he explain
00:56:08that Mersan
00:56:09it does not appear
00:56:09in Bulgaria
00:56:10in the day
00:56:10indicated by you
00:56:12maybe
00:56:12that in Bulgaria
00:56:13authority
00:56:13they didn't want to
00:56:14do careful research
00:56:15she
00:56:16he's slandering
00:56:18the judicial bodies
00:56:19Bulgarians
00:56:19accusing them
00:56:20of lack
00:56:21of objectivity
00:56:22judge
00:56:23I protest
00:56:24this is a
00:56:25vulgar insinuation
00:56:26I share
00:56:27his indignation
00:56:28the answer
00:56:29it is seriously
00:56:29harmful
00:56:30of his prestige
00:56:32and of that
00:56:32of the People's Republic
00:56:33Bulgarian
00:56:34oh yeah
00:56:34why does it behave
00:56:35in this way
00:56:36I apologize
00:56:37I wanted to say
00:56:38that maybe
00:56:38Hotel management
00:56:39Vitosha
00:56:40it wasn't
00:56:41be careful
00:56:42in his research
00:56:42Well
00:56:44At that time
00:56:44we can continue
00:56:47lawyer
00:56:48the fourth time
00:56:49that I plan
00:56:49but what are they coming
00:56:50to pinch
00:56:51always to me
00:56:51I did not understand
00:56:57excuse me
00:56:58a moment
00:56:58Please
00:57:06At that time
00:57:07we got it
00:57:08in Germany
00:57:09now commissioner
00:57:10I will have to request
00:57:11the extradition
00:57:12of this Mersana
00:57:13as soon as possible
00:57:14How come
00:57:14this beard
00:57:15but judge
00:57:16it's two nights
00:57:17that I don't sleep
00:57:18and then
00:57:18and then
00:57:19I put it there
00:57:20all day
00:57:20from yesterday
00:57:21but I managed
00:57:22to have this
00:57:23things
00:57:24the photocopy
00:57:25of the passport
00:57:26of Mersana
00:57:29Thank you
00:57:29Thank you
00:57:30commissioner
00:57:31she for me
00:57:32it was really
00:57:33Now
00:57:35Now
00:57:36I need
00:57:37of one last thing
00:57:38should go
00:57:39to the office
00:57:39Rome customs
00:57:41I would like
00:57:42I would like to check
00:57:44the story
00:57:44of this truck
00:57:45but immediately
00:57:47immediately
00:57:48I ask him
00:57:49as a favor
00:57:51the beard
00:57:52can wait
00:57:53you have to wait
00:57:55Well
00:58:04in San Lorenzo
00:58:12she said
00:58:14that once
00:58:14the attack was carried out
00:58:15should have
00:58:16take refuge
00:58:17at the embassy
00:58:18Bulgarian
00:58:18where was it
00:58:20waiting for him
00:58:20a truck
00:58:21he has evidence
00:58:22about it
00:58:24No
00:58:24has ever seen
00:58:26this shot
00:58:27No
00:58:29he knew about it
00:58:30the number
00:58:30of license plate
00:58:31No
00:58:33and then
00:58:34how does he do it?
00:58:34to support
00:58:35that it was about
00:58:36own
00:58:36of a truck
00:58:36Bulgarian
00:58:37I do not know
00:58:39they said
00:58:40to me
00:58:40Who
00:58:41maybe
00:58:42Antonov
00:58:43or maybe
00:58:44Ivazov
00:58:50let's go
00:59:18At that time
00:59:21Can we resume?
00:59:22Naturally.
00:59:22Certain.
00:59:32Thank you very much.
00:59:40Judge Ormankov,
00:59:42I just learned new things right now
00:59:45that in the common interest for justice
00:59:46they add for us necessary reasons for reflection.
00:59:50The customs district of Rome-San Lorenzo
00:59:53informs me that during the year 1981
00:59:55a single Bulgarian truck
00:59:58arrived at the Bulgarian embassy in Rome.
01:00:01This single truck crossed the Italian border on May 10th
01:00:05and on May 11th he reached Rome.
01:00:08It carried aperitifs and other types of drinks.
01:00:10The same truck left Rome on May 13, 1981,
01:00:15the very day of the attack on the Pope,
01:00:17at 7.30 pm.
01:00:36I'd like to show you this too.
01:00:39It's Omer Mersa's passport
01:00:42who was stopped in Germany at my request.
01:00:45Please note that on these pages 21 and 23
01:00:49there are five stamps
01:00:51affixed by authorities of his country.
01:00:54The first is dated July 4, 1980,
01:00:58Captain Andrevo's entrance.
01:01:01The second one, this one that you see in an inverted position,
01:01:04it's the following wording, correct me if I'm wrong.
01:01:07Balkan Turis Sofia.
01:01:10This means arrived, right?
01:01:11Yes.
01:01:12Arrived on July 4, 1980.
01:01:17Yes.
01:01:18But a little further down it is written
01:01:23departed on July 5th.
01:01:25Yes, indeed.
01:01:26However at this point it is certain that Mersa will blow it on July 5th,
01:01:30as Mr. Aggià claims.
01:01:32And that the Vitoce hotel was staying at.
01:01:37I take note of that.
01:01:38And we can also consider Mr. Aggià's statement true
01:01:41regarding the presence of the Bulgarian truck in Rome.
01:01:46I would define this one only
01:01:48a simple coincidence.
01:01:51Certain.
01:01:53A strange coincidence, though.
01:02:02Good morning, Mr. Judge.
01:02:03Is it true that the investigation is now practically concluded?
01:02:06Please, I cannot make any statements.
01:02:09We are preparing a special program on the Aggià case
01:02:11which will obviously be broadcast after she has concluded her investigation.
01:02:15So this interview should...
01:02:16What interview? I don't think I'm answering you.
01:02:19He can at least promise to participate in a debate in the studio.
01:02:22We have been waiting for your comment for almost two years.
01:02:24Just two words.
01:02:26Come on, don't tell us no, Judge.
01:02:27I'm sorry, I won't come.
01:02:28Anyway, I thank you anyway and wish you good luck.
01:02:31Her too?
01:02:34Okay, okay, you can stop, that's enough.
01:02:37Listen, hold the microphone.
01:02:39Madam, Yes, I will deliver the results of this investigation today.
01:02:44But first I wanted to tell you that I sincerely believe
01:02:47that in these two years she has not truly collaborated with justice.
01:02:51Maybe he just wanted to use it.
01:02:56What I said about Mersan was true.
01:02:59Bulgarian truck was real.
01:03:02Let me finish.
01:03:04All this time, for me, she's been playing on two tables.
01:03:07Sometimes collaborating, sometimes hiding the truth.
01:03:10But his only real goal was to save himself from life imprisonment.
01:03:13I understand, it's his right.
01:03:18It was like this in the beginning, not now.
01:03:22She pushed me to say true things.
01:03:25He was very clever.
01:03:27But what is she saying, if there is an artist here to her?
01:03:32But now he has one last chance.
01:03:35If he accused innocent people,
01:03:38there is still time to retract what he said.
01:03:47Do it if you think so.
01:03:50I would like to see Lucia Santos.
01:03:54Who?
01:03:55Who is he talking about?
01:03:58Now she is called Sister Maria della Adolorata.
01:04:05As a child she received the mysteries of Fatima from God.
01:04:15She lives in heaven too.
01:04:18And why would he want to see her?
01:04:24Why isn't he answering me?
01:04:27The three children saw the Madonna.
01:04:31Precisely on May 13th.
01:04:36Same day.
01:04:38When I shot the Pope.
01:04:43Do you understand now?
01:04:45I spoke to Pope about this.
01:04:49The third secret of Fatima,
01:04:51which has not yet been revealed.
01:04:55predicts the end of the world.
01:04:59Millions of men will die.
01:05:03And the oceans will cover the continents.
01:05:05In a few seconds.
01:05:07nuclear war.
01:05:11When will the trial be?
01:05:14When I bring the Bulgarians and with them also
01:05:16the Soviet Union in the dock?
01:05:20Maybe.
01:05:22Perhaps that May 13th could mean that I was sent to St. Peter's by God's will.
01:05:31and God wants it to be me, but put the burden of illness,
01:05:37to sound the trumpets of universal judgment.
01:05:40Before all these millions of men he's talking about,
01:05:43know that you are responsible for the people who will be charged.
01:05:46Antono, Celeng,
01:05:49Vassiliev,
01:05:50Aivazov,
01:05:51Baggie,
01:05:51Celebi.
01:05:52You think about them,
01:05:53to their families,
01:05:55to their lives.
01:05:56And think also of the young Emanuela Orlandi,
01:05:59to his father,
01:06:00to his mother,
01:06:00to their anguish.
01:06:03Leave his law to God
01:06:04and think rather of the law of men.
01:06:07I ask you one more time
01:06:09whether she confirms or retracts
01:06:12in whole or in part
01:06:15as he declared during the investigation.
01:06:20I confirm everything.
01:06:38That's true, Mr. Judge,
01:06:41that she has an armored car?
01:06:44It's not fair to men like her
01:06:46live without freedom as I do?
01:06:49It's my choice.
01:06:53For me, however, it was all written.
01:06:58It was the little head.
01:07:04My work is done.
01:07:07The investigation is concluded.
01:07:10But I wonder
01:07:12Who is Agia really?
01:07:16A man with a diabolical imagination?
01:07:19A small appearance in a game too big?
01:07:23Or a genuine repentant?
01:07:26Or just a scared man
01:07:29that is struggling in the net
01:07:30and tries in every way to save himself?
01:07:34He told truths and lies.
01:07:37He made revelations and retractions.
01:07:41Why?
01:07:43Without his cooperation
01:07:45this investigation
01:07:46he wouldn't have made much progress.
01:07:49But the path he made possible
01:07:52where does it lead?
01:07:55And what else can we still reserve?
01:08:00Certain.
01:08:01Perhaps the process will contradict
01:08:04this investigation.
01:08:06The important thing is that it does not contradict the truth.
01:08:10And this regardless of the man Agia.
01:08:14Perhaps destined to remain
01:08:16an indecipherable mystery.
01:08:18For everyone.
01:08:21And forever.
01:08:49Thank you all.
01:08:52Thank you all.
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