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00:00Bulldog here, Sal Capaccio, on this occasion of the Bills, we'll use anything, on the Bills
00:07wrapping up mandatory minicamp, 48 days off after today.
00:13You know, we didn't talk about the Dan Leberfeld point, about how much time there can be between
00:19the end of this and the start of that.
00:23It'll be almost seven weeks though, Sal.
00:26And he was, Dan was talking like five weeks is just a lot.
00:30I mean, he liked that the Jets had their, or have their, mandatory practices later.
00:36Next week, yeah.
00:37So I don't know, like, do you have a position on this?
00:40I don't think I have one.
00:43No, I'd have to see some sort of actual analytics or numbers.
00:47Let's remember, the Bills started earlier than the Jets.
00:50They started earlier than most teams, because they have a new head coach.
00:54So, while that's true, maybe the Jets are going later, and other teams will go later.
00:59The Bills started on August, I'm sorry, April 6th.
01:03Several teams didn't start until, I think the Jets will be included here, April 20th, two
01:06weeks later.
01:07So, you're still getting a full, I think it's ten weeks with a new coach, nine weeks, otherwise,
01:12either way, somewhere in there.
01:15I don't know if there's a benefit either way.
01:17And I also would say, every team would probably be different based on your roster, and who
01:21you are, and what those guys do.
01:23Shouldn't the Jets actually be allowed to practice constantly?
01:27I mean, really?
01:28Let's just get them off the mat here.
01:31Guys should have living coaches, if you're on the Jets, maybe.
01:35So, Dorian Strong is the news here, Sal.
01:38Explain it to us.
01:40So, as you guys know, and, you know, Bills fans probably know, that Dorian Strong suffered
01:45a neck injury in week four last year.
01:47He was subsequently placed on injured reserve, had neck surgery, he missed the entire season.
01:52There's been a lot of talk about maybe, you know, his career being in jeopardy, and where
01:56he goes from here.
01:57We really haven't had a lot of clarity every time we've talked to Brandon Bean about it.
02:02Dorian Strong today, he has not participated in any OTAs, minicamp, nothing like that.
02:06Dorian Strong today was waived NFI.
02:09That's non-football injury.
02:10You can say, wait a minute, he got hurt in football.
02:12Yes, but that was last year.
02:14It's NFI because it's a year later.
02:16He did not get hurt this year doing something during football.
02:19So, they can put him on NFI that way.
02:21So, he gets played.
02:22It's really just a technicality.
02:24But either way, it works the same as a football injury or regular injury reserve, to be honest
02:28with you, in a lot of ways.
02:29I'm glad you clarified that because that was a question I was going to have.
02:32It's like, how in the world did they put an NFI?
02:34You just said he got hurt in week four, but gotcha.
02:36A hundred percent.
02:37And I thought the same thing.
02:38And then you realize, well, it's last year.
02:39So, it's a non-football injury because of that.
02:42So, what happens now, because he's waived, he is subject to waivers.
02:46That's why the word is there.
02:48And a team, any team in the NFL can claim him over the next 24 hours.
02:51They'd have to put him on their 90-man roster.
02:53Let's assume that's not going to happen.
02:54I mean, some team could do that and think maybe he'll rehab and he'll play for them.
02:58That could happen.
03:00Assuming he does not get claimed, he clears waivers, he reverts back to the Bills, and
03:05then the Bills will put him on actual injured reserve.
03:08And at that point, I would say it would be a reserve, you know, with an injury designation.
03:12But either way, he'll go on injured reserve and then his season will be over and he will
03:16not count against the roster.
03:17What are the odds he gets claimed?
03:19Very, very small?
03:22Very small.
03:24I mean, a team would have to put him on their roster now and release somebody.
03:30And they could do that and just hold him.
03:32And then they could put him on injured reserve before the start of the season.
03:35So, they could definitely do that and then see where it goes.
03:38I mean, in a case like this, though, a guy that's been with you and your doctors for over
03:44a year and going through this, I don't know if a team would want to bring that into their
03:48building and have to go through that again and all the different medical and testing that
03:52would have to go along with it.
03:53So, I would assume no one's going to claim him, but you never say never in a league like
03:56this.
03:57Yeah.
03:57So, we don't, it obviously does not bode well for his future, but it's, I guess, I want
04:02to say it's possible he could just rehab through another season and try this again next
04:09spring?
04:11Yeah, that's right.
04:12He could do that and the team could do that.
04:14And it sounds like that's exactly what the plan is.
04:16I mean, there's two parts of this, right?
04:19Number one, that could be the plan, Bulldog, from a football standpoint, which is we'll keep
04:23him on the roster.
04:23We'll keep, you know, we'll go through the doctors, the procedures.
04:26Is there another procedures or not?
04:27Can he rehab?
04:28Can he play?
04:29And I think there's an element of just trying to do right by the kid.
04:31You know, you drafted him and I think that means a lot with him and his family and all
04:36those kinds of things.
04:36So, that's, you know, probably a part of this where they'll keep him around.
04:41They'll keep him on the roster.
04:41He's a part of the team.
04:42He came in as a draft pick last year.
04:44He knows the guys.
04:45And I think it would be good for everybody in the organization to have him around the
04:47building.
04:50And just one more thing on him.
04:52What's the upside?
04:53There was some excitement about this player.
04:55Sixth round pick as a rookie, though.
04:57Is he somebody that the Bills are, you know, it's a relative term here, but just like super
05:03serious about and optimistic for?
05:07I mean, they were.
05:08I don't think you can be at this point.
05:10In fact, they drafted two guys.
05:13They drafted a guy in the second round, IGB.
05:15They drafted another guy, Toriano Pride.
05:19But, Mike, this was a player that they were excited about.
05:22And, in fact, I would compare a lot of what we hear about IGB right now about the way
05:26they were talking about Doreen Strong as, you know, the season went on last year.
05:30And he wasn't a second-round pick.
05:31He was a sixth-rounder.
05:33But he was noticeable.
05:34And he was getting on the field.
05:36He was physical.
05:36And they liked him.
05:37They liked his length, his physicality.
05:39A lot of what IGB is bringing now.
05:41And look what happened at the end of the year.
05:43And the corners, we know very well how much the corner position mattered as far as injuries
05:47were concerned.
05:48And that was one of the reasons, because a guy they had counted on that had played pretty
05:52well early in the season suddenly wasn't available to them.
05:55And that was a big deal.
05:57So, yeah, I would say not now, though.
06:00I doubt they're optimistic he can actually play now.
06:02But you make these moves, so who knows, maybe in the future that can happen.
06:06Before we move on to the less newsier portion of our conversation here, there were accompanying
06:13moves.
06:13There were a couple of players signed, one of whom made maybe the play of the day yesterday.
06:18Yeah, Devin Tompkins.
06:20Remember we talked about him?
06:21And I said to you guys, I said the play of the day was turned in by this guy.
06:24And he actually has some NFL-wide receiver experience.
06:27He played for the Panthers and the Buccaneers and the Falcons on their practice squad.
06:32And yesterday he made a play where Shane Buchel saw him deep, put one a little bit too far,
06:36but he laid out.
06:37And he's not the biggest dude.
06:38And he just laid out.
06:40And he made a great catch.
06:41And everybody in the offensive sideline was like, oh, one of those kinds of deals.
06:44They were going crazy.
06:45And today he got signed to a contract.
06:46So good for him.
06:47And, I mean, maybe it was partly that catch.
06:49I'm sure that had something to do with it, you know.
06:51And I think, obviously, you know, just looking at the roster and what they need,
06:55they not only signed him, but wide receiver Max Tomczak, who's very interesting to me
06:58because this is a guy that played at Youngstown State and he did really well there.
07:02This is Mike Tomczak's nephew, by the way.
07:06He signed with the Bills as an undrafted free agent week two of OTAs.
07:11I went out there and he wasn't there.
07:12And all of a sudden they waved him.
07:14I'm like, okay, well, he's not around anymore.
07:15Well, they brought him back and they signed him.
07:18They did also waive another undrafted free agent wide receiver, Gabriel Benyard.
07:22And then they also waived with an injury designation running back Desmond Reed.
07:26A lot of people were excited about him.
07:28He actually had a – he looked – you know, he's a good running back from Pitt
07:30who signed with the Bills as an undrafted free agent.
07:33With Sal Capaccio, I think I saw from Sneaky Joe, Tompkins, I'm not sure if it was the last pass,
07:39but the last yards of Tom Brady's NFL career regular season were passed to Tompkins.
07:46Oh, wow.
07:47Check out Joe's Twitter for the exact words on that stat.
07:51Sal, so Strong and the injury was there,
07:55and I'm not sure if they had real expectations for him this year because of it.
07:58What is your view on the secondary as a whole?
08:03With – I feel like this could be anything.
08:05This answer could be anything.
08:07With Benford as strong as he's been and Hairston off a rookie year where he was hurt a lot.
08:13Like maybe you get the upside you wanted when you picked him in the first round.
08:17Bishop is young.
08:19Gardner Johnson is a name.
08:20So is Geno Stone, for that matter, as maybe depth.
08:24And then Igbenosin, you mentioned him already, second-round pick.
08:27Are you thinking that – I mean, there's some turnover here.
08:31Obviously, Taren Johnson is gone.
08:32Are you thinking that the secondary is a strength of the defense or of the team,
08:37or are there too many questions?
08:39I think the top of the secondary can be very good.
08:42I really do.
08:43I like what I see a lot.
08:44I think that they pick kind of the right formula and players for what they want to do defensively.
08:50Thinking about Jim Leonard, his scheme, talking to players, watching C.J. Gardner Johnson yesterday.
08:54I mean, guy's just an athlete.
08:55He makes plays.
08:56Knowing what Cole Bishop did last year, albeit he's injured right now.
08:59But, you know, the ascension he was on, I really kind of like what they are building at safety.
09:04I like this Jalen Kilgore kid that they drafted a lot.
09:06I think he fits in exactly what they want to do there.
09:09On the outside, Christian Bedford, we know he's very, very good.
09:12I still think Max Hairston could be very good.
09:15We didn't see enough of him last year.
09:17Davis Enigmund Osen really is kind of a prototypical guy that Jim Leonard wants.
09:21He's spoken highly of, hey, you know, we didn't have this kind of guy in the room.
09:24I love all that.
09:25I'm concerned about their depth, and I still wonder if they're going to add to that,
09:29because injuries will happen.
09:31They do happen.
09:31We know that.
09:32Slot corner D. Alford, I think he kind of fits exactly what they want out of the slot.
09:36Not Taren Johnson anymore.
09:38Not going to play 90% of the snaps.
09:39You don't need a guy like that.
09:41But we'll see what happens with Jordan Hancock.
09:43I think he's kind of slated to be more of the slot corner here.
09:45I just wonder what they do about depth, because that's been such a talking point after last year.
09:51And even Brandon Bean said corner was their number one need.
09:53He didn't mean at the top of the roster.
09:55He meant overall.
09:56They go out and they draft Davis Enigmund Osen.
09:58They draft Toriano Pride.
09:59Guys, I mean, think of their outside corners.
10:01Benford, Harrison, Enigmund Osen.
10:03And then it's Toriano Pride, Kari Walker, and Jordan Dunbar.
10:08Is that your fourth guy?
10:09Is Toriano Pride actually going to show up at camp and be a guy that can make the roster and
10:14help you?
10:15Maybe.
10:15I mean, he was drafted.
10:17That's possible.
10:18But that's where the Trey White discussion comes from, right?
10:21We did Always Game Day in Buffalo.
10:23Matt Bovey and I.
10:24And Matt said, and I don't disagree, that he wouldn't be surprised if they go out and sign Tredavious White.
10:29Or even someone like him before training camp starts.
10:33And then even at safety for me.
10:35Beyond Bishop and Gardner Johnson, I like Jalen Kilgore.
10:39But then you have Sam Franklin.
10:40Yes, he has NFL experience, but he's mostly a special teams player.
10:43And DeMar Hamlin.
10:44And I know, you guys know, I'll tell you, DeMar Hamlin can play.
10:48At least it gives you a baseline of a guy who understands the system.
10:51But this is a new system.
10:52Geno Stone.
10:53But I'd like to see a little bit more there.
10:56There's a lot of names.
10:57I know, you know, the beat reporters, the men and women who are out there watching, not like today, but
11:03like earlier in the week.
11:05You know, sometimes there's scuttlebutt on the sidelines and things you guys in the media room might debate.
11:10How hot takey is it?
11:12And has it come up?
11:14You mentioned how Leonard has talked about Igbeneson.
11:18How much of a hot take is it to say you think he starts the opener?
11:21Because I'm leaning that way.
11:24It's not that they don't like Hairston.
11:26They're never going to say they don't like Hairston.
11:28But, like, it wasn't for this scheme.
11:30And I really wonder.
11:32It just sounds to me like something I'm on guard about, I guess.
11:37Not like I'm scared of it.
11:38I just mean, like, I'm sort of watching out for it.
11:41I don't think it's hot takey.
11:43I've heard people.
11:44We've had these debates and talks.
11:46Where I fall is I wouldn't be surprised if IGB ultimately starts.
11:50I don't think it's that early over Max Hairston.
11:53I'd be surprised if that were the case.
11:54But is it possible?
11:55Sure.
11:56And I also think it would have to be because he really shows what he can do and not because
12:00Max Hairston necessarily falters because of what you said.
12:03It just fits a little better, right?
12:04The puzzle just fits a little bit more and better with a guy like Davis Enigma-Nosa maybe than Max
12:09Hairston.
12:10Max Hairston has to prove he can stay healthy as well.
12:13But certainly there are people, I would say, that cover the team that would be of the same mindset as
12:18you, Bulldog, which is I wouldn't be surprised if this kid is starting week one over Max Hairston.
12:23I still need to see it.
12:25You know, yesterday, you know, yesterday, there's a play yesterday where – so I don't know if I told you
12:31guys a couple days ago, Keon Coleman catches a pass.
12:34Edmund Olsen kind of wraps him a little bit, and Keon didn't appreciate it, so Keon tosses the ball at
12:39him.
12:39There's some pushing and shoving, right?
12:41Just kind of normal, you know, football stuff, and they go back to their huddle.
12:45Well, then yesterday – I mean, I don't know if he did it on purpose, but Josh targeted Keon on
12:50a pass against Davis Enigma-Nosa near the end zone.
12:53And it was one-on-one.
12:54And Enigma-Nosa just – he got called for a penalty.
12:58There were officials on the field.
12:59There were officials actually, you know, out there.
13:01So Keon turns around.
13:03He looks.
13:03The officials throw the flag.
13:04I mean, Enigma-Nosa was hot.
13:06He was hot, really hot, yelling at the officials kind of sort of like in a way like not getting
13:10in their face yelling, but definitely very demonstrative in his reaction.
13:15And Khalil Shakir comes over.
13:17He's just pointing at the flag, pointing at the flag, looking at him, pointing at the flag.
13:21Like, this is a kid that is really, really competitive.
13:25He's got the juice that they love.
13:27But there's some growing pains there with anybody, right?
13:29I mean, it was interference.
13:30I was standing right there.
13:32Like, these are things that he's going to have to clean up.
13:34Remember, he had the holding penalty.
13:35So I just think if he can kind of make sure that he's in the moment and he's doing the
13:40things right technically he's supposed to be doing, I think he could compete for a starting job.
13:44Two seasons ago, he had big penalty problems, and last year cleaned it up, right?
13:48That was the story on him.
13:49That's exactly right.
13:50And the Bills loved that about him because they said it meant that he took it serious enough to get
13:55better about it.
13:56And I like that, right?
13:57Like, he said, I'm going to make sure that doesn't happen again.
14:00So when you look at the penalty numbers, which I believe were 21 total, 16 one year or maybe 16
14:06total, 12 one year and four the next.
14:07I think somewhere in there.
14:10He took it seriously enough to cut down on those, and the Bills said that was something that actually attracted
14:15them to him.
14:17So they didn't stop practice and review it and have everybody just stand there for five minutes?
14:21They did not stop practice and review it.
14:23You can't review that play in mandatory minicamp.
14:25No.
14:26Not even in real games.
14:27Can you review that?
14:28No, but I'll tell you guys, I mean, it also was another point of like this whole, that one of
14:32the things that's really stuck out about all these OTAs and minicamps is these guys really kind of getting after
14:37each other.
14:37The offense and the defense, the C.J. Gardner-Johnson and, you know, the way he barks and Josh Allen
14:42and, you know, yesterday with Khalil Shakir pointing at that flag and looking at, you know, Davis Enigmanosin and giving
14:48him that smile and smirk like, yep, there's the flag, pal.
14:50What are you going to do about it?
14:51It was, it was just really interesting the last few weeks watching, watching this all take place.
14:55How is Brady different from McDermott so far when you watch him like run a practice or whether he gets
15:02involved as much or less involved?
15:06I don't know if it's more involved or less involved, except I would say more from this standpoint where I
15:10think Joe is almost like more constant of the high energy after every play, saying something, doing something, all those
15:19kinds of things.
15:20Sean would do it once in a while, but Sean would kind of let the practice play out.
15:23And then every once in a while, you knew when Sean McDermott liked or didn't like something, right?
15:26It seems like Joe Brady likes or doesn't like something all the time.
15:28And he's letting you know about it and, and, and usually in a good way, in a positive way with
15:33either side.
15:33It's but it's funny you say that because Matt Bovay and I actually recorded another podcast today.
15:40He told a story and I didn't know this.
15:43He told a story about how he talked to Connor McGovern and said to Connor McGovern, it's really interesting.
15:48He said that Joe Brady from Matt's observation, that when the defense would make a play, that Joe would get
15:56super excited about it.
15:57Even though he's standing maybe more near the offense and he asked Connor, do you think he's doing that on
16:02purpose?
16:03And Connor said, yes, so I think he is.
16:05And Connor said something to the effect of, he thinks he's even doing it on purpose, like to Josh, like
16:11a get like near, near Josh.
16:13So that Josh knows I'm the head coach and I liked that the defense just did that to you.
16:18I'm not your head.
16:19I'm not your coordinator position coach anymore.
16:22Well, I wasn't there.
16:24It sounds a little bit like acting, but that's a new, that's a new relationship.
16:27You know, there's an element of that in this, in this job, in that job, I'm sure.
16:32Well, this is the last Bill's work day for a long time.
16:36What have we not covered?
16:39Not that we won't talk again between now and seven weeks from now, but is there a story, Sal, that
16:45you can think of?
16:46A player, something about the makeup of the team that has gone under addressed?
16:54There is one.
16:55I brought it up at the end of our podcast today because I was doing the same thing.
16:58I'm like, what have we not talked about?
17:00We have yet to see Tyler Bass kick.
17:01That's what I was just, I thought we asked you about him yesterday and I wanted to ask again.
17:06That I think is, is a good one.
17:08And it doesn't mean that anything's wrong with him.
17:11They just haven't done that when we've been out there.
17:13He's the only kicker on the team though.
17:14They actually got rid of another kicker.
17:16They had, he's the only kicker.
17:18He is wearing number 16, which is a little bit different.
17:20Um, they do have two punters.
17:22That will be a story at camp.
17:23There's going to be a punting battle between Mitch, Mitch Wisnowski and Tommy, uh, Doman, who they drafted.
17:29Reed is the only long snapper, but I do think that the, the health of Tyler Bass kicking in training
17:36camp is going to be a story.
17:39Well, that sounds right.
17:41Um, it's a little bit just conspicuous, you know, with that's kind of, it's in your voice that last year
17:47was a mystery really for a lot of it.
17:50Just what are we ever going to see this guy again?
17:53You know?
17:53Right.
17:53And, and Prater stepped in, no pun intended.
17:56He did all right.
17:57Did really well.
17:58Um, and he was a, he was up, right?
18:00Prater.
18:02Yeah.
18:03He was a, yeah, he was a free.
18:04Just a one year thing to fill in.
18:07I mean, he had, he basically told me like, he's like, Hey, you know,
18:10I I'm enjoying it, but you know, he's getting older and lives out in Arizona.
18:14And at some point, you know, he's going to go back and do that.
18:17And that's what it is.
18:18And he even said, it's, he says when Tyler's ready, you know, by all means, like, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm
18:22just here to fill in until he's ready.
18:24And, you know, apparently that's the case, but we haven't seen that yet.
18:27I want to see it.
18:28I want to see Tyler Bass actually, you know, kick the ball.
18:30I guess if I could, you know, stretch for another one, I was looking, I was looking at something today.
18:36What was it about?
18:36I think the Dalton Kincaid story has been something we talked about a lot.
18:39Oh, I know what it is.
18:40I'm staying on special teams.
18:42I wonder what they do at the return spot.
18:44I'm not talking about kick return.
18:45That should be Ray Davis, maybe Ty Johnson.
18:47Like who's the punt returner?
18:48Because how does that impact the wide receiver room?
18:50Because Nicole Hardman can do it, but are you keeping Nicole Hardman on, on, on the roster?
18:54What does that mean at wide receiver?
18:55So I think two special teams areas that we really don't get a chance to really watch that stuff or
18:59really get a full gauge of it at camp.
19:02I should say we do watch some of the return guys, but a lot of guys are doing it this
19:05time of year.
19:05I think those are two storylines to watch at camp.
19:08You know, Coleman would be an idea there.
19:11I just wonder with all the issues he's had, I feel like trusting him, not that him not showing up
19:19on time has to be connected with whether he could competently, you know, be trusted to field punts and return
19:25punts.
19:25But if he's going to be good enough to make the roster and not squeezed out by someone, but also
19:33not be like at the top of the rotation, like, man, that's a, I'd rather, I'd rather do that than
19:40have Shakir.
19:41Although you trust Shakir to catch the ball and not make a mistake, but you're still, it's, you know, it's
19:47added, you know, it's added on field.
19:50It's more snaps.
19:51It's more exposure for a guy that's way more important to your offense than, than Coleman probably will be.
19:57So like, I wonder maybe once the summer comes, we'll see where he is, if he is at all in
20:03the rotation of guys fielding punts.
20:06I agree with that.
20:07I did ask Joe Brady back at the combine about this very question and you bring it up, which is,
20:12do you really want Khalil Shakir back there doing that?
20:15Or would you rather have a dedicated return man?
20:17His answer basically suggested they'd rather have a dedicated return man.
20:21But of course you just said it, they trust Khalil Shakir.
20:24And if they need to do that, they will.
20:25And then let's just say they do trust Keon Coleman.
20:28I agree.
20:29That might be a little better option than to having Khalil Shakir back there, putting the wear and tear on
20:33his body.
20:33I mean, if Keon Coleman can be a top three wide receiver, I think the perfect scenario to me, like
20:39I'm just reading into what Joe Brady said now.
20:40And I don't know this for sure, but the perfect scenario would be Keon Coleman wins a top three job.
20:45He's on the field.
20:45They want him out there.
20:46He's doing everything he's supposed to do.
20:48So he's out there with DJ Moore, Khalil Shakir, and then we'll just find somebody else.
20:51It's a good return man.
20:52And we don't have to, because that way we can use those guys for how we want to use them.
20:55Yeah.
20:55We don't have a lot of time for this, but it's something I wanted to ask you about.
21:01Was Al, I listened to Alan, Alan spoke, was that on Tuesday that he spoke to the media?
21:06I can't remember the days now.
21:08Yes.
21:08But I went back and listened to it last night, because I was curious if anybody would be inclined to
21:13ask him about the quote.
21:15This trip to why you said, we started talking about Tyler Bass, and you said Tyler, and I remember it.
21:19I think we're talking to Tyler Dunn tomorrow.
21:21And he wrote a piece that dropped over the weekend, like Tyler does, GoLongTD.com, on Alan.
21:29And there's a quote in that story from Alan about his future, basically.
21:36And I wonder if you had any reaction to that.
21:41Do you know the quote I'm talking about?
21:42I'll read it.
21:42I have it right here.
21:43Yes, I'll play this game as long as I can play it the way I want to.
21:45I'm going to play football how I know how to play it until I can't.
21:48And when I can't play it the way I want to play it, it's probably when I'm done.
21:51But hopefully that's still quite some time.
21:53I don't think he was asked about it.
21:55At least I didn't hear it.
21:56What is your reaction to that?
21:58Because we took that for a ride earlier this week.
22:00And I don't know.
22:01On one hand, I can certainly see where you might think, boy, I thought I had like eight years left.
22:06And maybe now it's only four.
22:07I don't know.
22:11My reaction is that Josh Allen believes he can play the way he's playing for another 15 years.
22:19I really believe that.
22:21I would say that I know Josh Allen well enough to believe that he believes he can play at this
22:28level, throwing and running for 15, 20 more years.
22:32It's just he's going to keep doing it.
22:34And that quote to me says, I'm going to keep doing that.
22:38And I know I can.
22:39But the moment I can't, that's when I know that things might be different.
22:42Maybe I have to decide a different future.
22:4620 more years.
22:47It could be a grandfather.
22:47How many grandfathers have ever been active in the NFL?
22:50Not too many.
22:52He won.
22:53Phillip Rivers.
22:54Phillip Rivers.
22:55Right.
22:56Wow.
22:56Right there with the answer, Sal.
22:58Good job.
22:58At least one.
22:59You're the best.
23:00Tyler Bass married Rick Tootin's daughter, the putter for the Super Bowl 25 Bills.
23:06And he's deceased now.
23:08And that's the only Bills jersey I have is a game-worn Rick Tootin jersey.
23:13Not Super Bowl.
23:14Isn't it also sleeveless?
23:15Did you tell me?
23:16It's almost sleeveless.
23:17It's real tight around the arms.
23:18You would not stop laughing for a week if you saw me in it.
23:22Yeah, right.
23:23Like the sleeves come down to here.
23:25He goes...
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