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00:02this reminds me of yesterday when you were talking about vegas and how somebody accused
00:09them of not treating their players well enough or their employees well enough and you were like
00:15and i was trying to sort of mess with the whole take and talk about how they were not allowed
00:19to
00:20eat bread and all of that just trying to find a you know a seat at that table so to
00:25speak
00:25can't wait to wait to see why we started here and you're like listen can somebody tell me because
00:31i would like to know if there's more to this that i'm not aware of you said that a few
00:34times trying
00:34to cover yourself like yeah what what do i not know about this uh vegas thing right so why is
00:43it
00:43the least bit secretive for the knicks not to reveal when a guy broke his finger is there any
00:54can somebody tell me who is what what uh bit am i doing uh it's stand up and win can
01:01somebody tell
01:01me because i'd like to know what what what is the practical reason why the knicks don't want you to
01:07know when a player broke his finger like what would happen is did somebody on the team go up to
01:12him with
01:12a ball peen hammer and just smash his finger what was it a basketball related activity or not why does
01:18it matter um they're trying to protect the player from being criticized for i don't know cleaning his
01:27barbecue and breaking his finger i i don't know having one of his kids slamming in a car door i
01:33mean i don't know maybe uh but maybe there's some they think it'll be worse for this guy if it
01:39comes
01:39out that you know he he was trying to get a spider out of his eye in the middle of
01:44the night and he broke
01:44his finger which i don't know that seems unlikely but you know that it was just some embarrassing
01:50pratfall you know because you know we're all scotty sheffler last year oh you see you heard his
01:55he he cut himself making pasta like yeah or he fell down with a wine glass and the stem went
02:03through
02:03his hand i go you know whatever but fine i'll buy your pasta story whatever so like we live in
02:08a
02:08skeptical world uh i could curious world i could okay that's another word for it sure i i could see
02:16the knicks wanting to protect him if if indeed there's some something untoward that happened we're
02:21only skeptical about these things because sports lies to us all the constantly yes like they never
02:26tell the truth on injury as like a business plan they lie to us they never tell the truth on
02:30injury
02:31so what are you supposed to do with it right you're supposed to be skeptical sure they could tell us
02:36what happened and i still wouldn't believe it that's sheffler that's that's right i still go ahead
02:42go ahead and have a special press conference just to disclose what happened to this guy's hand okay
02:48i don't believe you next i just i'm sick of you lying to me about injuries right i mean do
02:55you think
02:57alex tuck was really hurt i'm not trying to get us into him again but like i thought it was
03:03it was an
03:04interesting point to make a few times after the the season ended with the sabers that remember as
03:09non-forthcoming as they are as a rule anyway especially in the playoffs now when it's over
03:16they have no obligation to tell you anything and i could see a player looking at that either way
03:22yeah tuck was always a tricky one to me he's going into you know what should be the payday of
03:28his
03:28lifetime and you know regardless of what he would have said about an injury i think that still would
03:33have been the case but but nonetheless on one hand like i was saying all through the playoffs
03:39and i even said it afterward like i i hope i hear that he's hurt because i'm i'm struggling with
03:46why
03:46you were such a ghost in the montreal series but the the down the the other side to that that
03:54could be
03:54problematic to him is to say i had a back injury a month before you're about to hit the free
04:00agent
04:00market like you you probably don't want to advertise that so you know lesser of two evils again i i
04:09i don't
04:10know um i think there's a case to be made on either side that he would have either wanted to
04:17sort of validate his non his underperforming by explaining it away with an injury and that might
04:24make teams go okay well that's fine because he'll be he'll be he'll be healed and i'll give him
04:2812 million dollars or they could go what's the injury is it is there a problem could it potentially
04:35linger is it going to reoccur whatever and that could hurt him so just that wins the day yeah i
04:42think so i think so rather not create suspicion about your body than basically right explain why
04:51you didn't do well and you're also you know looking like you're making an excuse too and so
04:57those two things probably outweigh the like you know make radios the bulldog feel better about my
05:03performance against montreal uh i think the long range outlook is i'm i know i'm no i was fine and
05:10i'm not here to tell you like i had something bothering me i just didn't play you know that the
05:15goals didn't come well you know what i don't know is when he does sign with whomever when is the
05:21physical like if he's got something there are it's a pretty wide range of injuries like if he had a
05:27broken pinky like this knicks guy yeah and you know he goes to the press conference he's probably
05:34pretty safe in disclosing that because that's going to get better right by the time next season starts
05:39right and somebody wants to invest in him they're not worried about whether his finger is a chronic
05:43injury right he's just you know okay that'll heal a back injury is maybe about as scary as it could
05:49get right and you know yeah what was eric lindros was it head but back maybe he had back problems
05:56too
05:56a back injury can ruin your career can end it yep and so you know if he doesn't want to
06:02i'm not trying
06:03to say that that's what happened but if he doesn't want to if it is and he doesn't want to
06:07talk about
06:07it eventually he's going to have to pass a physical and then right you know if you really want to
06:15uh litigate this without knowing the truth it would be it would be if if all right it would
06:24be a reason to not sign him because it could scare you a little bit wow didn't he have to
06:28be hurt and
06:29then he talked and said he wasn't and there are reasons why he wouldn't have even if he was like
06:35oh
06:36well to strike against yeah i'm going i'm admitting it i'm going pretty hard at that but
06:41it does seem like it could make sense well i don't know this is the kind of thing i i
06:49think
06:49i've mellowed but this is the kind of thing uh especially when it's like the knicks and i
06:52couldn't care less when it's far away that just made me hate certain aspects of covering sports
06:59like it doesn't even make sense this is you know lossman and uh and uh vincent toy vincent right
07:05yeah what what really happened why why wouldn't you just be honest and not only were they not
07:10honest they held it against you for claiming that they should have that they weren't being honest
07:14right and that people who saw what happened and even knew what was going on behind the scenes were
07:19willing to tell you like there were veterans on the team that thought the guy was acting like a gym
07:23class hero and embarrassing them and no tackle drills and so someone hammered him i've maybe never
07:28gotten over that that's pretty much what happened and tom donahoe never stopped pushing back against
07:33that and his his men made you feel terrible you feel you know tried to shame you right for wanting
07:40to find out what really happened when you had vincent himself admit it right yeah not any like
07:45explicitly but it was just like there was no question that there was some intent to try to and then
07:51it
07:51was an accident it's is that does that count as an accident it's a misdemeanor it was a football
07:56misdemeanor yeah you wanted to send a message you ended up hurting the guy and like you you did i'm
08:01sure
08:01didn't want to hurt him but you wanted to smack him i've never really gotten over that yeah with
08:06them and it's it's all different people now and just like this next thing if i i'd want to quit
08:11the
08:12beat it's the finals and i just want to like you really can't say that we don't it's hockey you
08:18don't
08:18know what the injury is and you have to accept some level of if it gets out then our player
08:25and
08:26therefore our team are at disadvantages because you know theoretically if if thompson thompson had a
08:33back thing right he said yeah but we thought maybe he had a wrist injury and if i mean maybe
08:39probably
08:40on the inside there's a lot more known a lot more shared knowledge than we have access to but if
08:47it's
08:47possible that montreal players found out that he had a wrist injury they could take that out on him for
08:53sure and and maybe that would have happened which gives you some defense if you're the team for just
09:00not being forthcoming about the injury i mean not to do the whole thing over again but thompson said
09:05it's none of your business and he's wrong unfortunately for him sports doesn't exist without the fans
09:11people bet on games it is our business whether he likes it or not and if he had just said
09:16nothing's
09:16wrong with me that would have been people would have accepted that if not believed it yeah they still
09:21would have been maybe skeptical about it but reacting the way he did only amped up the idea
09:26that something's hindering him because well just put him for me it put it i we talked to paul about
09:31it and paul goes into his whole thing about how i don't mind i don't care whether paul minds i
09:36just
09:36want it to be pointed out that it is people's business and whatever he's doing or not doing to his
09:45risk
09:45factor as a player i mean he sounds naive to think that like he's got he's terribly naive to think
09:52that
09:52it isn't yeah the business of the the media and the fans hockey gets they get away with so much
09:59anyway because apparently you don't have to disclose injuries in the playoffs you never have to even
10:05disclose specifically what an injury is we go the whole year with upper body so let's just sort of
10:12accept the compromise here tage and just it's it's kind of okay for you if you don't have to ever
10:19say the thing but you can't be annoyed if somebody asks you and claim that it's none of their business
10:26of course it is anyway yeah just because of the nicks the pinky finger got me into all this he
10:33did
10:33sweating i think you know whatever he you know i don't need to say he explained himself like i think
10:38afterward like you know he was upset he played terribly he really made a fool of himself is
10:43too strong but like it it was like pratfalls in that game game two it was really bad yeah um
10:52so you
10:53know i understand him being uh hot in that moment anyway too but whatever it's irrelevant uh to the
11:00point is
11:01you
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