00:00We have some sort of involuntary hold-in again with Aganzo.
00:05Oh, you knew that was coming, though.
00:06Is that what's going on?
00:07Yeah, you know that's coming.
00:08If I was his agent, I'd be like, man, don't show up for nothing.
00:10You don't show up until they put that new contract in front of you.
00:15Until they add zeros on the end of the check.
00:17We know what the market is.
00:19And see, that's the thing.
00:20Like, we're talking about the trade for A.J. Brown.
00:23We're talking about Christian Gonzalez.
00:24The thing about the NFL, and I think a lot of sports,
00:26is once the market's set, you know what you have to do.
00:31Like, if you're the Patriots, you know you have to come off a first-round pick
00:34because Jalen Waddell set the market.
00:36And A.J. Brown, whether you want to say Jalen Waddell's better,
00:39they're in the same kind of category.
00:41A.J. Brown is going to cost you a first-round pick.
00:43You know what the market is with Trent McDuffie,
00:46who went to the Rams when it comes to a contract for a defensive back.
00:50And that's what you're going to have to pay Christian Gonzalez.
00:52You're going to have to guarantee him more money
00:55than the Rams did, which was $100 million.
00:58So whether that's 105, 110, 101, 102,
01:01that's what you're going to have to give to Christian Gonzalez
01:04because that's what the market is for a young cornerback
01:08who's one of the best players in the league.
01:10So it's right there laid out for you.
01:12Right. I don't get it.
01:13And honestly, far be it for me to criticize someone I love,
01:16but Tom Brady kind of ruined it for a lot of Patriots.
01:19Like, Robert Kraft will always lean on him.
01:23I'm sure he does in private.
01:25Like, if I got Tommy to play at X, why won't Christian take Y?
01:30And it's just, well, there's a million reasons,
01:33but Christian Gonzalez is not Tom Brady,
01:36and he is the best.
01:38I view him as one of the top two to three corners in the NFL.
01:41And play as the unlikely man.
01:43You can argue that he's the best.
01:44Right. Of course.
01:45And so you know what the numbers.
01:47So, like, pay the man.
01:49Right. You know, Trent McDuffie's the highest-paid corner in the NFL right now.
01:52He just got his deal a couple months ago
01:54when he got traded from Kansas City to the Rams.
01:56You know what it is.
01:57And to your point, Curtis, with Brady, you're right.
02:00A lot of – I would not say a lot.
02:02All players didn't like Brady doing that
02:04because when Tom Brady does it, well, you should do it.
02:09And that just sets, you know, it just kind of like –
02:11it holds guys back to being able to maximize because you talked about it.
02:15Your career length is three years.
02:17And if you're not able to maximize or strike on that opportunity, then –
02:22That's why all the former Patriots have to do TV.
02:25Yeah. Yeah, I mean –
02:26Get to do TV.
02:28Yeah, I mean, you can't live –
02:29unless you're like Brady, you can get $30 million a year.
02:31I think that guaranteed money is going to be really tough
02:37for the Krafts to swallow, though.
02:39Like, they love loading up on incentives.
02:42And I think the guaranteed money, if you're Gonzalez,
02:45that is totally – you're right to cite that, Wiggy, with McDuffie
02:49because that is totally what you're looking at.
02:51You don't – from a player perspective, you don't care much about OTAs, right?
02:56Like, whether he's there or not.
02:57No, I don't.
02:57Are we going to have a hold-in when it comes to training camp?
03:01If he don't have a new contract, I would think so.
03:03Absolutely.
03:04Yeah, I would think so.
03:05Why would you risk something?
03:07Why would you risk, you know, putting yourself in that position?
03:11And if you're the Patriots, don't you want to do what's right for your team
03:16and give your team a good look?
03:18Because guess what?
03:19Next year, you're going to be in the same conversation.
03:22It's going to cost you a lot more money when it comes to Drake May.
03:26What are you going to do there?
03:27Are you going to be like, ah, you're going to be holding onto your wallet
03:30with the, you know, the death grip?
03:31Or are you going to be like, all right, these are our guys.
03:34We feel like they're the foundation to our team,
03:37and we're going to pay them what the market dictates.
03:42That's the thing.
03:42Like, when teams try to undercut a player or don't want to pay what the market dictates,
03:51it's like, why?
03:52Is there anyone, like, from a fan perspective out there,
03:55who sees Christian Gonzalez holding in and, like, they don't agree with it?
03:59Oh, yes.
04:00A lot of people.
04:01A lot of people.
04:01Because I got to say, like, it's so much money that he's looking at.
04:06It's so much money.
04:08If I were part of his family, I'd be like, it's irresponsible for you to go out
04:13and play for $4 million.
04:15It's ridiculous.
04:16But I would say.
04:17He's not going to get hurt during OTAs.
04:19I mean, that would be the argument.
04:21He got hurt on the first day of pads on in a training camp last year.
04:25I'm just – just let me argue the opposite point here.
04:29Not going to get hurt out there when, you know,
04:31Drake May is side-tossing a ball like he did on Shime's first throw.
04:36I famously couldn't define it on the old show.
04:40Leverage is important.
04:41Yeah.
04:42The whole – but let's just be clear.
04:43The hold-in is not about the concern over a risk of injury.
04:48It's about making the Patriots pay.
04:50So I'm not arguing before the –
04:52It's right.
04:52It's forcing a team that could cut him at any time to pay him fair market value.
04:56Yeah.
04:56Yeah, but he could easily go out there on OTAs, right, and boom, backpedal,
05:00take one step, boom, blow an Achilles out.
05:02Yeah.
05:02So, yeah, it's about getting hurt out there.
05:05It's about getting hurt at practice.
05:07And if he blows an Achilles out because he's doing a backpedal at OTAs,
05:12what do you think that $100 million is going to look like?
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