00:00Have you heard anything about auto qualifiers, the AQs?
00:03You mentioned we're assuming a G6.
00:06They talked about this going, everyone just says go 24 teams.
00:09But Bill, I haven't heard any parameters surrounding like how that would be selected
00:13and what the seating and all that stuff would look like.
00:16Right.
00:16Well, the one says there'll be one automatic qualifier and it'd be the G6 school.
00:21And I think that would make whoever was 23 or, you know, if you're 24 and you get bumped
00:28for the FCS school or not the FCS school, the G6 school, you would be very upset.
00:33So I think that's one format that's out there.
00:35You know, I think what they'll end up doing is probably just one to 24.
00:41That's how I would do it because everybody gets in.
00:43And if you're not, if you're a conference champion of an AQ school and you're not in the top 24,
00:52I guess a scenario like Duke last year, maybe you get left out at that point.
00:57But I would think like the way the college football playoff is tweaked this year, and
01:02I had to go back and look, I forgot about these things.
01:04One, all of the power four conferences are, they're your champions in.
01:09So if Duke loses five games, wins the power, the ACC this year, they're in the playoff.
01:15And then the Notre Dame rule, where if they're in the top 12, they're in the playoff.
01:18And the group of six school doesn't necessarily have to be a champion, which is a little bit
01:23of a weird tweak.
01:24It's just the highest rank G6 school gets in the playoff.
01:27So those are tweaks that I totally forgot about until this week.
01:31And so, yeah, we assume that those would ultimately carry over with that as well.
01:37It's just, it's very interesting because I haven't heard a lot of the parameters surrounding
01:40it to go to 24.
01:41Interestingly enough, Bill, in 2004, they looked at, they took Ohio State over the last 25 years.
01:46And they said there were two years that they wouldn't have been in the top 24 or wouldn't
01:51have made the field in the 2011 year with Luke Fickle.
01:55And they went six and seven, lost the Gator Bowl.
01:57And then in 2004, we went eight and four.
02:02And ironically, and this would be what would be amazing, assuming that you have a bigger
02:06brand.
02:07And this is kind of what happened in Notre Dame this year, except 24 was wild because we
02:12weren't very good.
02:13But we ended up going eight and four, beat Michigan the last game of the season.
02:17We're ranked 24th in the last standings heading into the bowl game.
02:22And we would have gotten bumped for an automatic qualifier should they not have been in the
02:27top 25, top 24, which is wild.
02:29So that would have been the year Ohio State beats Michigan at Ohio Stadium, right?
02:35At the shoot.
02:36And I think Michigan was pretty good that year.
02:39And that would have already had their ticket punched to the Rose Bowl.
02:43They'd already won the Big Ten.
02:44They were, I think, ranked seventh.
02:46And so that catapulted us from being unranked right into the top 25 again.
02:50I feel like that was like Anthony Gonzalez making catches, Ted Ginn, Troy Smith breakout game,
02:55right?
02:56Like he really had a really good game there.
03:00And so, yeah, at that point, if we were traveling back in time and doing that, I think they would
03:06have probably bumped Ohio State up to get them in the playoff at that point.
03:10I don't know if they would have sat at 24 in that room coming off that victory, knowing
03:14the schedule that was played that year.
03:16But yeah, I just don't think that 24th team is, it's going to sit, we're going to find
03:20something to argue about.
03:21We always do.
03:22And that 24th team getting bumped for, you know, Washington State, the Pac-12 champion.
03:29By the way, the Pac-12 is completely different now.
03:32Like if you go out and say, name all the schools in the Pac-12, they have a lot this
03:36year.
03:37They're going to, you know, they're, they're eligible to play for the college football playoff.
03:41So I don't think that would sit well in Columbus though, or whatever power four school gets
03:46bumped for a G6 school, which is another reason to consider that other tournament.
03:51Well, and that's, that's the thing.
03:52It's a little bit like the NCAA tournament in this.
03:56I don't think that you're going to be seeing a lot of group of six schools get in.
04:00Like we, we've expanded the NCAA tournament.
04:02Is that bill in basketball?
04:04Is that to add, you know, to get more of the Mac schools in or Sunbelt or Ohio Valley
04:10conference or whatever it is?
04:12No, it's really to get, you know, the ninth place or 12th place ACC or big 10 or SEC,
04:18pick your conference to get those schools in.
04:20And I, I don't know.
04:21That's the thing that people necessarily want more of that.
04:24And that's why, as I just talked through this and listening to Tony Petiti and everybody
04:29said, it sounds like it's a foregone conclusion that this is going to happen.
04:33It's a matter of more when than if, um, with that.
04:37And I just, that's why that, that G6 tournament, I think sounds like it has real appeal for people
04:43that are really football fans.
04:45Well, and, and, and Petiti brought up that, you know, this is, he wanted to compare the
04:51college football playoff to the NCAA tournament or, you know, the, the major league baseball
04:55post-season, which obviously Petiti had a role with the MLB network.
05:00And I will say this, they, the wild card round, the expansion has worked for baseball, but on
05:04the same token, they play 162 games.
05:08They probably could play 144 games.
05:11You know, the NBA plays 82 games, college basketball plays 30 plus.
05:16And, and one of the differences there is they play conference tournaments with automatic
05:20bids.
05:20And that's how you get to know the Cinderella schools like high point last year, for example,
05:26college football is not built like that.
05:27There are 22 guys on the field, not five.
05:30You know, these schools have huge differences in, uh, NIL and resources, those kinds of things,
05:36which is going to make it very, very difficult for that Boise state story to happen.
05:41All that said, a couple of years ago, when that Boise state Ashton Gente team was in the
05:46college football playoff and down a touchdown to Penn state, that's probably your best case
05:50scenario.
05:51So I'm not saying they're not going to win a game here and there, but the chances of a
05:55group of six school absent, like, you know, a Cody Campbell, like impact booster who helps
06:02boost their roster with a ridiculous amount of talent is probably not going to make a
06:06deep playoff run.
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