00:00Jason kid is done. This is the story from Tim McMahon over at ESPN. This news breaking last night right
00:06as I was about ready to send my email and I was about to send on it with no Jason
00:10kid stuff in there. I was like, oh, look at that. I was actually alerted by a noted Thunder fan
00:16marketing consultant Cody Cole, who is like, all right, well, how many more people are left? I was like, what
00:23is he talking about? I like it was like, oh, Jason kid is done a mutual parting of ways.
00:28This is what Tim McMahon writes. Kid has four years and more than 40 million remaining on his contract. Sources
00:33told ESPN, but Mavericks governor Patrick Dumont, who extended kids contract during Dallas's NBA finals run in 2024 and again
00:40before last season, after they declined the Knicks request to interview him, gave new president Masai Ujiri full authorization to
00:47determine the coach's future with the franchise. Quote, as we evaluate the future of our basketball program, we believe this
00:53is the right moment for a new direction for our team.
00:55We have high expectations for this franchise and a responsibility to build a basketball organization capable of sustained championship contention.
01:03We will conduct a thorough disciplined search for our next head coach and continue to evaluate our entire basketball operations
01:10staff to ensure we compete at the standard Mavs fans expect and deserve.
01:14He, uh, Tim McMahon goes on to write that the Mavs also let go of several members of the basketball
01:19operations department on Tuesday, including assistant general manager, Matt Riccardi, who had been working with Michael Finley kind of in
01:26the interim.
01:26Uh, we'd read a story on him at one point.
01:29He grew up a Mavs fan, big Dallas Mavericks fan, him working with Finley was funny.
01:34Cause he had like show, shared this photo with the Dallas morning news of him going to like a fan
01:38fest event and like getting Finley's autograph and stuff as a kid.
01:41And so, uh, that's a little, a little bit of a bummer for Matt Riccardi.
01:45I'm sure serving alongside Michael Finley.
01:47It says Finley's future with the franchise has yet to be determined.
01:50So he was not part of this purge yet.
01:52Anyway, uh, sources said standing, you know, I would think so, but, and, and he was not part of the
02:00Luca push.
02:01I know that, uh, sources said kid had expressed a desire to be promoted to president of basketball operations after
02:07general manager, Nico Harrison was fired in November.
02:09I too, I think all of us have a desire to be promoted.
02:12I look, I, if I was kid at the moment that the promotion was denied, he, he was, he probably
02:17knew he knew it.
02:18Well, he knew he was going to leave.
02:19He should have left anyway.
02:20I think he knew he was going to be done.
02:22I think he knew whoever came in was going to get their own guy and probably, yeah, probably, probably reset
02:27on that.
02:28Yeah.
02:28And that's like, but also like from his perspective, you know, if you get passed over for promotion that you
02:35want, that you think you might deserve, and most people think they deserve it anyway, you're probably not going to
02:40stay at whatever company it is.
02:42If you have options.
02:43Now we don't have any, now he has options because he has F you money and he could deal with
02:47just not working, right?
02:49He could deal with doing whatever he wants.
02:51Yeah.
02:52I don't, I don't love when, when, when people lose their jobs.
02:54I think it sucks.
02:55Um, I'm not, I'm not crying over this one because of the Lucas situation.
03:03Um, I don't think kids, a bad head coach.
03:06I think he's a fine head coach.
03:08Um, I got to see who I would like to bring in next.
03:13I don't know.
03:14Is this Nick nurse?
03:15Come on down.
03:15Is this Sean?
03:16Well, I'm going to talk about, I'm going to, I'm putting together something.
03:19I do not want a rookie head coach.
03:21I am, I am not a rookie head coach guy.
03:24Sorry, Shadi.
03:25Uh, we are Dallas Fort Worth.
03:27Save the rookie head coaches for Sacramento.
03:29You know, let them, let them break them in.
03:32You know, I am not a rookie head coach guy.
03:34Do, do not bring that rookie head coach here around here.
03:37Um, just cause look at the track records we had.
03:40Look at the coach we've had here.
03:43I mean, Avery was a rookie head coach, but, but you know, he was, I mean, he was literally a
03:48general.
03:49Like, yeah, I mean, he was, he was, he was groomed for the role.
03:52He was groomed.
03:53Um, but you, you, you're from Nelly to Rick.
03:55I mean, I'm out, I'm out.
03:56Right.
03:56But you know, like Jason kid handled the post Luca trade as poorly as you could have all
04:06all he had to do publicly, maybe he, he coached his ass off publicly at the close of the 2425.
04:13So I will give him credit for that.
04:14He had them playing hard.
04:15All he had to do was say, look, I, uh, I was on board with this, you know, and then,
04:22and then, and then, and gradually say it was the wrong thing to do.
04:26I think at the time, nobody knew, and I'm not giving kid a pass at all.
04:29Kid needed to go.
04:31This is justice today.
04:32Anybody involved with the trade really did need to go.
04:35And they pretty much, and they pretty much house at this point.
04:39Um, but man, it's, I think that Nico Harrison had such a strong grip on Patrick Dumont at
04:47the time that when it first happened, there were probably a lot of people who just felt
04:50like, well, I can't say anything right now because this dude is completely in control.
04:54And then after it kind of started transitioning a little bit, then you started seeing a little
04:57bit more confidence to, to push back against some of the stuff, uh, immediate reaction
05:02occurred on the set of inside the NBA.
05:04And then post game, they were able to expand their thoughts a little bit.
05:07This is the inside the NBA crew last night, reacting to the Jason kid news.
05:11Uh, well, I'm kind of surprised, but I see $40 million.
05:15I want to go that direction.
05:16Um, Jason is a heck of a coach.
05:19Um, I think Messiah, you know how much respect we have for him.
05:23I think he's just amazing, but I think he, he probably got somebody in mind.
05:28You don't make this, you don't fire Jason kid unless you have somebody you want in
05:34mind.
05:35And, uh, I have great respect for Jason and Messiah, but you know what, when you get
05:39a new job, you get to hire the people you want to hire.
05:42Uh, but Jason, I don't think there's any jobs.
05:46He probably out until next year.
05:48He did a heck of a job down in Dallas, but I understand Messiah.
05:52He wants to get his own people around him and good luck to them because they got that
05:56young boy flag.
05:57Who's the real deal.
05:58Kyrie comes back next year and that's a good job.
06:01Yeah, I was going to say, uh, whoever they pick, hopefully the new coach could take them
06:05to that next level.
06:07Like Jason kid, uh, had a hell of a run in Dallas, but you know, Messiah is in charge
06:11now.
06:11So like Chuck said, he's probably going to bring him in and his own people.
06:15But we're not seeing Jason kid for that Orlando job.
06:17We talk about Dallas, uh, Jason kid, he created an element of culture of winning and expectation
06:24of winning.
06:26Uh, so he, he did his job.
06:28Uh, but obviously when they fired Nico, uh, Harrison, and then all of a sudden now you
06:35bring in Messiah, this is the last leg of that era when, you know, that era of this is
06:42the new maps coming in now.
06:43Well, what is a lot of different thoughts there, Jason kid in Orlando, I maybe don't hate that
06:53fit.
06:53It's really the only job that's left.
06:55Um, but Kenny Smith talking about the culture of winning that Jason kid, like Jason kid came
07:05in here and it was in the finals.
07:07Okay.
07:07But, but saying Jason came in here and established a culture of winning.
07:12Yeah.
07:12They had a culture of winning with Rick Jason kid has as many under 500 seasons.
07:18He coached five years here.
07:20Felt like much longer.
07:21He coached five years here.
07:23He has as many under 500 seasons as Rick Carlisle had in 13 years.
07:31And as Don Nelson had an eight Don Nelson had as many seasons below 500 as Jason kid did.
07:35And they were bad when John doing Don Nelson.
07:37I, that seems like undue credit.
07:40He ultimately finished with two winning seasons, three losing seasons.
07:43I, I, I wouldn't give kid credit for establishing culture.
07:47He's, I mean, I would say, I would say to that the last two, I don't really count.
07:52I mean, I do.
07:54They traded Luco, but okay, but he was part of it.
07:57And that's not the catalyst for trading Luke.
07:59That was the whole, whole culture.
08:00I look at this.
08:02He is, and, and let us know on the fan text, how you feel about the Sean put out a
08:06tweet
08:07last night, put out a poll saying, are you happy or mad about Jason kid's departure?
08:12Happy time for change, mad, dumb move, or undecided.
08:15What do you think the poll results are?
08:17And, and let us know on the fan text.
08:18Are you happy about this?
08:19Are you mad?
08:20Are you not sure how to feel?
08:21My, my answer to his poll question, I, I am a little undecided.
08:25I'm happy that I, cause I think that everybody within that, that had a hand in the trade needed
08:32to go.
08:32Yeah.
08:32I do think it's the wrong basketball move.
08:35So that's, that's, that's the complicating factor.
08:38And I think that we can, I could come in here this morning and I do, I feel conflicted about
08:42this because it is, we wanted our pound of flesh.
08:45We got it.
08:47We got it.
08:49Now what?
08:52You know what I mean?
08:52Like, this is like, yeah, you went to the boss's office, you cussed him out and he told
08:56you to go take a walk.
08:57No.
08:57And now what?
08:58Now what are you going to do?
08:59I don't think it's that though.
09:01Um, like, I don't think it's necessarily now what, look, he got, are you in a better
09:06position coaching wise today?
09:10Or let's just not say today, cause you don't have a coach.
09:12Let's whatever they have.
09:13Depending on who Masai Ujiri has in mind, very well could be.
09:15Well, okay.
09:16I mean, all right.
09:18Have there not been times when you've watched Jason kid coach that you have.
09:21I thought probably an equal number of times.
09:24He is one of the best coaches in the NBA and dear God, how does he have a job?
09:28He does some, there are some times where I am so impressed with Jason kid.
09:32He is one of the most fascinating studies to me as an NBA coach, because I think there
09:37are times that he has been a massive advantage for them.
09:40I agree.
09:41And I think there are times that he doesn't, there's times you're not paying attention.
09:43I think he's cost them at other various times.
09:46And I think there's times where he's like, not even watching the game.
09:49And then he comes up with a play.
09:52The sensitivity to the last couple months.
09:53It was in those clips at the opening with the, the bye, bye, bye drops or whatever.
09:57He got so defensive at the end.
10:00That one where he bit the reporter's head off and goes, I know what the F I'm doing.
10:03He does not like, that was somebody trying to pay him a compliment.
10:06And he broke, like he cut them off.
10:08He is, he is like a lot of, a lot of athletes don't want to hear it from people who
10:14are fans
10:15or media who never played the game at a high level.
10:17I get it.
10:19Like fact, fact.
10:23And people who play professionally know more about how to play the sport than we do.
10:28Fact.
10:31You can't even make the argument.
10:33Ooh, fan text here.
10:34Uh, two, one, four.
10:36He's the Mavs version of Jason Garrett.
10:41Uh, and what, and what?
10:43I don't understand that.
10:44I would assume because it's just, there are things that you like about him and some other
10:48things that you're like, what the hell are you doing?
10:50Okay.
10:50That's fair.
10:51And I mean, he, Jason Garrett had similar successes.
10:55He didn't get to a Super Bowl, but I mean, he was, he had, we're fine.
10:58He had similar runs of like, oh, the team's really good.
11:00Oh, they're bad.
11:01Oh, the culture's really beneficial.
11:03Oh, this is just, they're not.
11:04I think at the end, I think a lot of us were like, all right, it's run its course with
11:07Jason.
11:10And, you know, I think we all thought we'll get a, we'll get a good coach with Jason
11:15kid.
11:15It's like, all right, we, we, we got rid of him.
11:18He's gone.
11:19We're happy about that for a different reason.
11:22My issue with this, my, my issue with the, with, with, with this move.
11:26And again, I know it's not a firing, but it also is like, if they really wanted him there,
11:32he didn't want to mutually agree he was getting fired.
11:34Yeah.
11:36Um, I do have a problem when it's, when you're making a move that is not a, for a basketball
11:45reason, you know, like I think, I mean, he, if he was part of the idea of pushing Luke
11:51out, that's a basketball reason.
11:52And, and, and if you want to talk about some of the, you're not firing him for his coaching.
11:56Well, you had some mismanagement and new guys want their guys.
12:00I get it.
12:00I get that.
12:01That, that makes more sense.
12:02Henry, Henry Abbott, Henry Abbott from true hoop wrote this last night.
12:06I covered Jason kid when he played for the nets.
12:08I know one of his childhood friends.
12:10I've been to his house, met his kids, then wife and Pilates instructor.
12:15And I have insight from many people who worked with him in his coaching years.
12:19This is a great firing.
12:20And I, when I saw that, I first saw that early on Senator, you are no Jack.
12:25And those are very Lloyd Benson.
12:27I laughed so hard at that.
12:29It's a funny lie.
12:29I was like, man, that did not go where I was expecting that to go.
12:32I do love Henry Abbott.
12:34Uh, some of the fan texts here, uh, three, two, one kids should have stayed one more
12:37year just to continue to develop flag, uh, four, six, nine happy.
12:41He either agreed with the Luca trade or wasn't respected enough to speak up about it.
12:45Overrated coach.
12:46Uh, one of our Spurs fans in Terrell says,
12:50overjoyed that kid is gone.
12:51Can't wait to get doc rivers in here.
12:53Ha ha ha ha.
12:54Boy, you would, you would have a cow.
12:57If this was a doc river's job, it's not, it's not going to be done.
13:00You, you, you don't know who it's going to be.
13:02It's not going to be done.
13:03It is a great day though.
13:04The reset that the cleansing has occurred.
13:07Justice has been served.
13:09Jason kid is out.
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