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00:00I love what you did there, John.
00:02You said we'd keep talking Pistons,
00:04which I'd love to do
00:06because it means we can delay talking Tigers.
00:08But we will accomplish both this hour.
00:10Good morning, 97.1. Jim Costa,
00:12John Jansen, Heather Park, Gov, and Greg
00:13behind the glass. On a Wednesday,
00:16Langdon spoke. You guys
00:17have responded. You guys also
00:20helped us out in a big way yesterday. Helped us
00:22put together a list of targets for the team.
00:257.35.
00:26We will go through
00:28your names. Thumbs up,
00:30thumbs down. Some are
00:32serious. Some are not.
00:34We'll get to that in about
00:3630 minutes. On Trajan Langdon
00:38yesterday, Tech says if the
00:40plan is to extend
00:41JD and Asar,
00:44draft a guard at 21
00:45and keep the band together,
00:47we won't be championship level better.
00:50You keep stacking
00:51stagnation, you risk Cade walking
00:53for a team that's serious about
00:55winning. If that's the plan, it's not good
00:57enough. You have to look at the GM and assess
00:59his job, Jason, in a car.
01:03The off-seasons
01:05work out extensions for our own
01:08and then what's too
01:09expensive to add that shot creating,
01:11that dribbling, that shooting,
01:14you're not going to make it as
01:15far as this team is capable of.
01:17Right, and the risk is
01:20you, we have a great
01:22opportunity. Cade is
01:23that superstar. You won the lottery.
01:25You got Cade Cunningham.
01:27You've, he's developed
01:28into one of the top
01:30five players
01:32in the NBA.
01:33You don't want to waste that.
01:35Yeah, and you are in his prime now,
01:36right? He finished
01:37in the MVP voting.
01:38We watched him carry this team
01:39as far as he could.
01:41You do not want to waste
01:42Cade Cunningham.
01:43So, I guess if I could build off
01:45of that text, that would be
01:47my biggest frustration
01:49is if Jalen Duren
01:51gets rewarded
01:52at a number to be
01:53named later
01:55and
01:56shooting's too expensive.
01:58If that combination
01:59happens this off-season,
02:01I won't be the only one
02:02flipping my top on it.
02:03If you say we can't get
02:05shooters because they're
02:07too expensive,
02:07but we overpaid Jalen Duren,
02:10you done goofed.
02:12That can't be
02:13the outcome
02:14of this off-season.
02:15Yeah, I know we wanted
02:16to get another shooter
02:17creator for Cade,
02:18but those guys are expensive.
02:20Meanwhile, Brink's truck
02:21is at Jalen Duren's residence.
02:23That would be a disaster.
02:26Would be.
02:27I know you're going to see
02:28how this gets navigated.
02:30Text says,
02:31the press conference
02:32was disappointing.
02:33Langdon isn't going to do
02:34what everyone watching
02:36the playoffs knows
02:37has to be done.
02:38The Pistons can't be
02:39a championship contender
02:40without a serious
02:42player who can create
02:42his own shot.
02:43Of course,
02:43he can't show his hand,
02:44but it didn't sound like
02:45he was willing to put on
02:46big boy pants
02:47and take a calculated risk.
02:52If Duren is just average,
02:54why didn't we get any,
02:56why didn't anybody else
02:56get that all-star spot
02:57signed Aaron?
02:59Two different things.
03:00Regular season,
03:01postseason.
03:01Right.
03:02Yeah.
03:02And it's,
03:03it's,
03:03it's two different seasons.
03:04It's,
03:04it's the regular season,
03:06which I have said
03:07is a fraud.
03:09And then it's the postseason
03:10where it really matters.
03:11You got to do good enough
03:12in one to get to the other.
03:14Did you notice
03:14at the press conference
03:15how we stopped saying
03:16postseason halfway through
03:17and it became
03:18the second season?
03:19I did hear that.
03:20Yeah.
03:20I'm like,
03:20how do we feel about that?
03:21Maybe that's just a,
03:23I don't know if that was
03:24a terminology that
03:26has been talked about
03:27in basketball parlance.
03:28I've heard the phrase
03:30before the second season
03:31in sports is
03:32another name for the
03:33postseason,
03:34but they,
03:35that just became,
03:36it came a regular
03:37yesterday.
03:38Yeah.
03:38Wojo had a question about it.
03:40Yeah.
03:40I think Rieger mentioned it.
03:41Yeah.
03:41I think once it gets
03:43put in your head
03:43that everybody Stoney
03:45and it was funny.
03:46I was listening to it,
03:47but I mentioned Jack
03:48was driving and he's like,
03:49is that Stoney?
03:50It's like when a John Gruden
03:52called the NFL playoffs
03:53the tournament,
03:55right?
03:58It's not what people
03:59commonly would refer
04:00to the NBA playoffs.
04:01The second season.
04:03But Campbell calls it
04:03the tournament.
04:04Yes.
04:05And then it catches on
04:06and people keep repeating it.
04:08At least locally.
04:09Yeah.
04:11Yeah.
04:11It's funny.
04:12Wojo asked him a question
04:13about it and then
04:14Trajan gave an answer
04:15and Wojo tried to
04:16rephrase it and Trajan said,
04:18no, I knew what you meant.
04:21Did you know he went to Duke?
04:22He's a very smart man.
04:23He knew what Wojo
04:24was asking.
04:25Yeah.
04:26Two, four, eight,
04:27five, three, nine,
04:2897, 97.
04:29A lot of Pistons talk.
04:30Fallout continues.
04:31This is the offseason
04:32is here.
04:33Season is very much
04:34still going for the Tigers,
04:35at least on paper.
04:38And it will be going
04:38for a long time.
04:40Yes.
04:40At least on paper.
04:41You say it like
04:41it's a threat.
04:45It feels like it is
04:46at this point.
04:47It feels like
04:50some type of
04:51waterboarding exercise
04:52that we're going through.
04:53It's that slow drip
04:54that just
04:55it's painful
04:57at this point.
04:59And
04:59they seem to be
05:01digging themselves
05:02a hole
05:03and they're playing
05:05a division opponent
05:06at probably
05:08the worst time.
05:09And you say,
05:10well, it's May.
05:11How could it be
05:11the worst time?
05:12Well, injuries,
05:14bats,
05:14all of these
05:15different things.
05:16Pitching
05:16have been
05:17really bad
05:18over the past
05:19three to four weeks
05:20and you dug
05:22yourself a hole
05:23before you played
05:23the Guardians
05:24where you're
05:25five and a half
05:25back of
05:27the division lead.
05:29Now,
05:29after two games
05:31with that division leader,
05:32you're seven and a half
05:33back.
05:34You got two more games
05:35and you could be back
05:37to where you started
05:38if you win a bullpen day
05:40and then you got
05:41Casey Mize
05:42on the mound tomorrow.
05:43If you don't,
05:45you're nearly
05:46ten back
05:46of the division leader
05:47and right now,
05:48correct me if I'm wrong,
05:49they're nine under
05:50500.
05:51Yes,
05:5220 and 29.
05:53You say,
05:54you know,
05:54flip it Leo,
05:55worst time of the year.
05:56From the standpoint
05:57of you really need
05:58someone to show
06:00some resolve
06:00and resilience,
06:01yeah,
06:02this is brutal.
06:03You're getting
06:04guys back later.
06:05You got to show
06:06some resolve
06:07and resilience now
06:08so that those games
06:09matter later.
06:11And I think
06:12we all expected
06:13a dip
06:14when you lose
06:15some of the names
06:15that they have
06:16on the injured list.
06:18But you can't
06:19be two and 12
06:20in a two-week stretch.
06:23You know,
06:24the old cliche
06:25is you can't win
06:26a division in April
06:27but you can lose one.
06:28And that even
06:29feels extreme.
06:31But we're about
06:31to hit Memorial Day.
06:33Can you lose
06:34a division
06:34by Memorial Day?
06:36You know,
06:37people will call in
06:38or text in
06:38the optimists
06:39of the world
06:39and say they came
06:40back in 24.
06:41They didn't win
06:42the division in 24.
06:45You know what I'm saying?
06:46And I think
06:46some of this
06:47is Cleveland's
06:48in town.
06:48That's the team
06:50that wins this division.
06:51And they overachieve.
06:53Think about it.
06:54Cleveland doesn't spend.
06:56They hardly hit.
06:57And they overachieve
06:59and win.
06:59And then we're
07:00looking at our team
07:01flailing
07:02and floundering
07:03and finding ways
07:04to lose games
07:05in every different
07:07way possible.
07:09And I just
07:09I wonder
07:10you know
07:11we got some audio
07:12from AJ
07:12from during this
07:13losing streak.
07:14He says
07:14and we'll play it
07:15but something
07:15to the effect of
07:17you know
07:17people are giving up
07:18on this team
07:19but we're not going
07:19to give up on ourselves.
07:21As a Tigers fan
07:22are you giving up
07:23on this team?
07:24We're not yet
07:25at Memorial Day
07:26but are you giving up
07:27on this team?
07:27This was AJ Hinch
07:28just the other day.
07:53Are you giving up
07:54on the Tigers?
07:57And you don't have
07:58to be excited
07:59about it.
07:59They may have
08:00just broken you
08:01but when you say
08:02hey I just
08:04I'm out.
08:04I'm out.
08:05It's really difficult
08:07right now
08:08because of the
08:10level of excitement
08:11that we entered
08:11this season with.
08:12We were all fired up
08:14that Kevin McGonigal
08:15made the opening
08:16day roster
08:17and he has followed
08:18through with a
08:19really good rookie
08:20campaign to this point.
08:22Riley Green
08:23even though he
08:23struggled early
08:24is having one
08:25of the best
08:27hitting seasons
08:28that we've seen
08:29in a long time.
08:31He is top
08:32what top five
08:33in Major League
08:35Baseball at this
08:36point.
08:36Yeah pick a category
08:37batting average
08:38and on base
08:39and OPS guy
08:39gets on base
08:40again multiple
08:41times last night.
08:42Right.
08:42It's been eight
08:43times in a row
08:43since they've been
08:45playing the Guardians.
08:46So there are
08:47some good things
08:48but the problem
08:49is we went
08:51into the season
08:51thinking hey
08:52we've got
08:53Scooble.
08:54he's going
08:55for his third
08:56Cy Young
08:56in a row.
08:57We've got
08:57Valdez.
08:58We've got
08:59Mize.
08:59We've got
09:00we went out
09:02and added
09:03Kenley Jansen
09:04to the bullpen.
09:05Like we've
09:05we've done
09:06everything
09:07and they went
09:08out and spent
09:09money.
09:09We're excited
09:10and the conversation
09:12was hey
09:12let's just get
09:13close to the
09:14trade deadline.
09:15Let's see
09:16what we need
09:16and we'll add
09:17some more.
09:18All of that
09:19excitement
09:20has gone
09:21I mean you're
09:21you're going
09:22down the highway
09:22with all four
09:23windows down
09:24and to pick a
09:25window that it's
09:26all going out.
09:27Yeah it's kind
09:27of a year from
09:28hell.
09:29Yeah everything's
09:30going wrong.
09:30They big old
09:31payroll before the
09:32year and everything
09:32has gone wrong
09:33since.
09:34How much is on
09:35injuries?
09:36Some.
09:37You're missing
09:38I looked at the
09:39opening day box
09:40score.
09:40They're missing
09:41five starters right
09:42now.
09:43That counts
09:43Scooble.
09:44Right.
09:45At the same time
09:46should you go two
09:46and twelve against
09:47bottom feeder?
09:48No.
09:49So it doesn't
09:50fully excuse or
09:51explain this.
09:52And this reminds
09:54me of a team
09:55like about 15
09:56years ago or so
09:57I think it was
09:57like the 2010
09:58Tigers.
09:59The bottom of
10:00the lineup after
10:01you get past
10:01four or five
10:02it's just horrendous.
10:04You're getting no
10:04contribution whatsoever
10:06but I'm sorry I
10:07know I've been on
10:07this for the third
10:08straight day this
10:08week now.
10:09I believe because
10:10of this situation
10:11that McGonigal and
10:12Green should be
10:12hitting back to
10:13back and I think
10:14it's criminal that
10:15Green hit fifth
10:16last night.
10:16I don't know
10:17what you're doing
10:19other than you're
10:19playing the matchups.
10:20The fact that
10:21you find any
10:23irony in the fact
10:24that Jemai Jones
10:24was the last out
10:25and Green didn't
10:26bat in the ninth
10:27because of where
10:28they were hitting
10:28in a lineup.
10:29Minor question.
10:30Dingler was the
10:31last or
10:31Dingler was the
10:32last spot.
10:32They didn't get to
10:33Riley.
10:34They had chances in
10:35the eighth and
10:35the ninth and
10:36Riley's only at
10:37bat he gets hit
10:37by a pitch and
10:38he doesn't come
10:38up in the ninth.
10:39But still trying
10:39to do this lefty
10:40righty matchup
10:41stuff when your
10:42lineup is more
10:43anemic.
10:44I think you have
10:44to put your best
10:45hitters up at the
10:46top and just
10:47grind out try to
10:48grind out a quick
10:49run or two.
10:50And Tom I think
10:50you're right and I
10:51think there's even
10:51a middle ground.
10:53If you want
10:54Jemai Jones in the
10:54lineup against the
10:55lefty.
10:56Okay.
10:58Bat him fifth or
10:59sixth.
11:00And get Riley
11:01extra ABs because
11:03he's playing like a
11:04man possessed.
11:05And if your
11:06thought is well I
11:07want to keep that
11:07three spot open so
11:08I can pinch hit
11:09Kerry Carpenter
11:10later in the game.
11:12AJ.
11:14Carp's not
11:15healthy.
11:16Carp can't come
11:17in the game.
11:17And Colt Keith
11:18could but Colt
11:19Keith has zero
11:20home runs this
11:21season.
11:21He has to be the
11:22pinch hitter in the
11:23third spot.
11:24I just fundamentally
11:26disagree with the
11:27fact that Jemai
11:28Jones hit third
11:29last night and
11:29Riley Green hit
11:30fifth.
11:31I don't know
11:32where.
11:33Where did that
11:34come from?
11:35Like where are you
11:36pulling that from?
11:37You're managing
11:37last year's team.
11:40But with that
11:41decision in my
11:41mind you're not
11:42managing this team
11:43right now.
11:43And I also think
11:44too that it is
11:45time to call up
11:46Max Anderson.
11:48Like he is just
11:49on a torrid pace
11:51in Toledo since
11:51he's come back
11:52from injury.
11:52Instead of Zach
11:53Short.
11:54Like I'll tell you
11:55that Zach Short
11:56is a slap in the
11:57face to me as a
11:58Tiger fan.
11:59So they tried to
12:00get rid of him.
12:01They DFA'd him
12:02this month.
12:04Right.
12:05How is he back?
12:07Well he wasn't in
12:07baseball was he when
12:08they brought him in
12:09here.
12:09I mean there's a
12:10thousand Zach
12:11Shorts out there.
12:12Get a different
12:12Zach Short.
12:13What do you mean he
12:13wasn't in baseball?
12:14Was he like stocking
12:16shelves?
12:17Like well I don't
12:17know.
12:17I don't think he was
12:18on a roster.
12:20My point is if they
12:21DFA'd him there's
12:22got to be somebody
12:23else.
12:24Anybody but Zach
12:25Short.
12:25Like let's get
12:26those t-shirts
12:27made.
12:28Yeah.
12:28And the Max
12:29Anderson point the
12:30guy's tearing it up.
12:31I just want to put
12:32sell him next to the
12:33Javir Bays.
12:34Oh yeah.
12:35Hey I want to back
12:36you up with some
12:37numbers because I
12:38think he just said
12:38something really smart.
12:39You said this is AJ
12:41managing last year's
12:42team and not this
12:42year's team.
12:43This season against
12:44lefties we talk about
12:45how Riley Green has
12:46cut down on strikeouts
12:47and increased the
12:48walks and getting on
12:49base.
12:49He's also crushing
12:51lefties.
12:52Riley Green this
12:53season is actually
12:54hitting lefties better
12:55than righties.
12:56He's got a thousand
12:57OPS against lefties.
12:59Manage this team.
13:01Manage this Riley
13:02Green.
13:03Hit him in the first
13:04three spots in the
13:05lineup.
13:06And yeah Jemite can
13:07grab a stick to hit
13:08lefties in the middle
13:10or lower part of the
13:11lineup because he's
13:12not hitting lefties
13:13nearly as well as he
13:14has in the past.
13:16If you're going to put
13:17Zach Short out there
13:18why don't you just go
13:18sign Andrew Romine.
13:21I saw someone suggest
13:22that we take current
13:24Alan Trammell and give
13:25him a bat.
13:27Any opposed?
13:29It's 97-1.
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