00:00All right, good afternoon. Let's get to business abbreviated show, but we got a lot to get through and I
00:06kind of I'm going to throw a change up at Rico here because I have two things now. I had
00:10one regarding the Tigers and we're going to get to that second.
00:14Cole Keith.
00:15No.
00:16Oh, did you see that?
00:17Didn't I five of them?
00:18Yeah.
00:18Okay, guys, you've talked about it for 15 minutes.
00:20Yes, I'm aware.
00:21Now, let's just please focus.
00:23Guys, look, I know there are things that bother me that don't bother normal people.
00:30I've accepted this.
00:31Let me just throw this your way.
00:33Okay.
00:33I want to know if Jeremy Otto represents Metro Detroit and we and I want to I feel like I
00:41have to say this because people can't tell the difference between like reality and fun.
00:45Like I really like Jeremy.
00:48I think Jeremy Otto is one of the sweetest guys in the building.
00:51Okay, but we do like to bust his chops because his reactions to us sabotaging his updates are the sunshine
00:59in my day, but before he took the air, we're having kind of a back and forth about the Tigers
01:05and he was like befuddled that we didn't have like a Barnum and Bailey circus in here with elephants and
01:13popcorn and a and like the flying Tanzanis in the ceiling.
01:17And I'm like, Jeremy, what do you want me to say brother there?
01:22What are they 11 11 under 500 now?
01:24Yeah, he goes.
01:25Well, well, well, they're playing better.
01:27And I'm like, yeah, then what then then well, it's they're better this month and last month.
01:35I go right.
01:36But Jeremy, look, man, I'm it takes a while to earn me back.
01:42I'm happy they're playing better, albeit not last night, but today today was fun.
01:48But it's it's this long grind in baseball.
01:51And I Jeremy has like an innocence about him where he's like, but they're getting the best picture in the
01:55game back.
01:56And I'm like, yeah, and I want him traded.
01:58So, uh, uh, so it was this weird thing where I look around other places and your teams in last
02:10place and your 12 games under 500 headed into today, all right, 28 and 40.
02:17And I feel like sometimes I live in a simulation, like in Boston, they're talking about all the terrible ways
02:25they can, they can ruin Craig Breslow's life as the GM of this team and get them out of town.
02:32And the Red Sox have like, uh, they're, they're, what are they one game better than you?
02:36Like, I, and I'm not even playing this game of, if you were in all these other divisions, I'm saying
02:41just on the level, here's, here's what you are.
02:44I can't erase 60 games of, of largely mediocre to at one point, the worst team in baseball with nine
02:54games.
02:55Now, seven and two, it's a really nice start to the month, but it's so weird because people like Jeremy,
03:02and that's not a, those people blast.
03:04Jeremy's a sweet guy, but I told him, I said, dude, I've done this for in total, Jesus, 20, 25
03:13years.
03:13And down here, I'm in my 22nd year.
03:16I go, Jeremy, I've seen it all.
03:18I'm too jaded to do this little, Jeremy's like a kid at his first camp.
03:23He's just excited.
03:24He's at band camp and he's going to show you a trick with his flute.
03:28But the point I'm making is I want to know if Jeremy represents the average fan because I can just
03:38take it at face value.
03:39I look, they took a series from the twins.
03:42Congrats.
03:42The twins are horrific.
03:43Good.
03:44But it doesn't materially change where this team is at, what the math is.
03:49And they, I told you, like, is it a flaw in me of my many flaws until, or unless you
03:55get to 500, I'm just, I'm sorry.
03:59I'm not going to be throwing a Chuck E. Cheese party.
04:02And Jeremy just kind of whimsically looked at me.
04:06I want you to answer this honestly.
04:08You won't hurt my feelings.
04:09No, I think honestly, he does.
04:11I think honestly, Otto represents a lot of the people who said, I'm done with this team.
04:17But, yes, I'm done with this team.
04:19Oh, wait, they're winning again.
04:20I like this team again.
04:22So, yes, they're on again, off again.
04:25Okay.
04:25Can you be entertaining?
04:27I don't think that Otto or a lot of the fan base can say the words World Series and not
04:33chuckle and laugh because that's not the ultimate goal.
04:37The ultimate goal is not to stumble out of bed in the morning.
04:39And guess what?
04:40In the last couple of games, they haven't.
04:42They actually got up, brushed their teeth, and were productive citizens.
04:46I've heard that.
04:48So, yes, I do think that a lot of people are like that where they couldn't hit home runs.
04:54They've already surpassed their month of May home runs.
04:57Yeah, they're in this power surge, and Dylan Dingler's on fire.
05:01Riley Green has tapped into a little bit of power.
05:04Carpenter's not the player he was before injury, which was terrible.
05:07You got Cater Maddox on the mound today.
05:10I'm just saying, they're fun to watch.
05:13So, in the summer, that's all that a lot of people need is that bridge.
05:19Get me the Lions.
05:20I'm asking because I don't need nor do I want people to do it the way I do.
05:26I'm just telling you that when a team puts themselves a zillion games out of first and is 12 games
05:32under .500, now 11 with the win today, buddy, it takes more than nine games to get me going.
05:38And, yeah, the series against Cleveland will be super interesting, and maybe if you swept them and you found yourself,
05:46you know, what are they, nine games out, eight and a half games, I don't know, five and a half
05:49games out, maybe it does take a different tenor.
05:51I don't know.
05:52I got to see it to believe it.
05:54And the reason why it has a different tenor, Mike, because you're looking at it, you're taking ten steps back
06:00and looking at the big picture.
06:01Yeah, being an adult.
06:02No, you're looking big picture.
06:04Most people are just looking day to day.
06:05They're looking five minutes from now.
06:07Yeah, that's what kids do.
06:08And can you've just described children?
06:12That's what kids do.
06:14There's some adults that do that, too.
06:16Yeah.
06:16Well, children, did you see outside the Knicks game last night?
06:21Not a lot of long view there.
06:24No.
06:25Can you just win games?
06:27Because you're not going to trade anybody.
06:29But see, okay, let's add this to the mix.
06:32That plays into my reaction to this.
06:34I don't fear, but I have a concern.
06:39They're going to fool themselves into thinking everything's okay, not trade their impending free agents, not just the guy we
06:47talk about, and then fall short.
06:50And then what was it all for?
06:52And you harm the organization.
06:54So there's a part of me, when you get to be this bad, I don't necessarily need you to get
07:01up off the floor.
07:02I kind of think it's okay if you just stay there, and I'll move on to the NFL.
07:06Right.
07:06But they have time now, in this month, to just keep going.
07:12And at a certain point, I'll be able to enjoy it.
07:15Right now, it's just like, did you do your homework?
07:18Yes, you did.
07:19You took two or three from the Twins.
07:21I don't celebrate you doing the bare minimum.
07:24No.
07:25But I think with this team, and not winning.
07:27Otto sure does.
07:28No, no.
07:28Wow.
07:29Because, Mike, they're like...
07:30He dissolved and evolved.
07:32Because, let me give you an example.
07:34Maybe this will help you out.
07:35Go ahead.
07:36For you, you're looking at big picture World Series.
07:43So, this Tigers team is like that neighborhood carnival that pops up on the corner.
07:49You go to it.
07:50It's entertaining.
07:51It's fun.
07:52Because it's there.
07:54Because it's what you have.
07:56You don't have to travel.
07:57You don't have to do a lot of things.
07:58You're not going to spend a ton of money.
07:59You're not going to...
08:00It ain't Disney World.
08:02Okay?
08:02It has its limitations.
08:04But you realize that it's a corner carnival.
08:06That's what this team is.
08:07You go there.
08:08You have fun.
08:10You get your daiquiris.
08:11You sit in the sun.
08:12And, hopefully, you can be entertaining enough to get me to September when football kicks in.
08:19That's why I think the people like Otto are...
08:22Yeah, and I want to reaffirm this, too, because it is Snowflake City.
08:26There's nothing wrong if that's Jeremy or your viewpoint.
08:29If you want to do the day-to-day emotional highs and lows of baseball, you're welcome to.
08:34But this team's got to earn me back.
08:37And I don't care.
08:38You could be like, who cares about you?
08:39Nobody.
08:40I'm just making a point.
08:42No, no, no.
08:42I'm making a point that I don't think any fan in my position should be persecuted where it's like, oh,
08:48how dare...
08:49How dare I what?
08:50But they plunged to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.
08:53It's not my problem.
08:55Play your way out of it.
08:56Earn your way back.
08:57I mean, a team goes 15 games under .500.
09:02They have a 7-2 run, okay?
09:06That's like someone having their first day sober, and you're acting like it's been 20 years.
09:12You got work to do.
09:14Correct.
09:14So, like, I just...
09:15Jeremy was, like, aghast.
09:17First of all, good use of the term, Mariana Trench.
09:20Well, thank you.
09:21Second...
09:21Geology's my jam.
09:23Second.
09:26And then, David, we'll get to you, but you see that throughout this entire city, Mike, where there are some
09:32who...
09:33And we're going to see it a lot in the fall.
09:35Is it Super Bowl or bust, or is it, you know what, I'm just going to enjoy this game.
09:39I'm just going to enjoy this week.
09:40I'm just going to enjoy this team.
09:41Why can't you be happy, okay?
09:43Team's winning.
09:43Once again, children.
09:44I don't want to deal with children.
09:46And I think you see that in every aspect, whether it was Piston fan, Wings fans, Tigers fans, Lions fans,
09:52anyone.
09:52You have those who say, look, the ultimate goal is the goal, winning, trophy, goal.
09:59And there are others who are like, no, the journey and the ride.
10:02That's the goal.
10:03That's what kids do.
10:042-4-8-5-3-9-97.
10:07David, talk to me, buddy.
10:10Where do you side on this?
10:12And again, we're all big fans of Jeremy Otto.
10:14This is not an attack.
10:15And David, it's okay if Mike considers you a child.
10:18Because I think some people just are in the moment.
10:22Factually, you described the behavior of a child.
10:27That's how kids look at the world.
10:29How do I get my next nutter butter?
10:32They're not thinking about anything other than did they poop their pants that day and what's for dinner.
10:38Come on now.
10:39That's not true.
10:40Okay then, David.
10:41Yeah, I can't live like Jeremy Otto.
10:43I can't live like Jeremy Otto.
10:45It's black and white for me.
10:46But you love kids.
10:47Are you winning championships or are you not winning championships?
10:50And right now, they're not in a spot to do that.
10:52So, I cannot sit here and be happy because they blew a team out 11-0.
10:57Sorry.
10:57They had a bad May.
10:59They're having a good June, but man, they got a lot more work to this.
11:02But I said it at the beginning.
11:04When we were on, Mariko, you weren't here.
11:06And I said they got to flip the month.
11:07And I know that's not realistic.
11:09But that's basically what they have to do for me.
11:12They had a bad month.
11:13Do this the rest of the month and then we can talk.
11:16That's where I'm at.
11:17Like, we're going to celebrate America 250 if the Tigers are good.
11:21Get to 4th of July weekend.
11:23Let's assess where we're at.
11:25I mean, Jeremy's already taken his pants off.
11:27No, but he's running around pantsless.
11:29It's unbelievable.
11:30When you look at the city of Boston, different goals.
11:33So, therefore, they're not happy.
11:36But why can't we have those same goals here in Detroit?
11:38Because you're children.
11:39Because Boston has had how many parades in the last 20 years?
11:43Uh-oh.
11:44That's fair.
11:46Not acceptable, but fair.
11:48People, I'd like to just tell you, Rico's outfitted Dave over the Greater Life body bag.
11:52Oh, my God.
11:54No, I'm just saying.
11:54That's why.
11:55Because they've seen it in every sport.
11:59That's won a title in the last 20 years.
12:02We haven't.
12:04So, let me ask the people.
12:05Because I actually had something fun out of this game.
12:08But Jeremy, it peaked.
12:10What was that?
12:12Oh, hold on.
12:12We've got a collection of those.
12:17We've got a bunch.
12:19I was fascinated by Jeremy's kind of, he was shocked we weren't going to do like a,
12:25hey, what was your 38 favorite things from the game today?
12:27I'm like, no, we've got an update on the Soresby thing.
12:29We've got what happened in New York last night.
12:32Which home run was your favorite?
12:33Right.
12:34And I'm like, what?
12:35Did you see they didn't high-five Colt Keith?
12:392-4-8-5-3-9-97-97.
12:44Where are you at?
12:45Are you team auto minus the copious amount of pregnancies?
12:50Or are you more team me and Rico?
12:52This team's got to earn you back.
12:55And we'll follow it day by day.
12:57And I'm glad they're playing well.
12:59But kind of still want to make the trades.
13:02Kind of still have doubts.
13:04See you 4th of July.
13:05What side of it are you on?
13:06I don't think there's wrong or right, good or bad.
13:10I just, I think Jeremy's a little bit bricked up for the moment.
13:13And I do have something fun out of this game that I'll get to next.
13:16And we'll get to your calls.
13:1797-1.
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