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00:02Welcome to NBA Showtime, presented by AT&T.
00:09So Victor Wimbenyala makes a statement with his return,
00:11but watch this play, guys.
00:13Rudy Gobert in the spin cycle
00:15is still trying to figure out exactly what happened.
00:18What happened was Wimbenyala.
00:19Waiting to go.
00:20Yep, 27 points and 17 rebounds.
00:23Welcome back inside.
00:23Round and round we go.
00:24Round and round we go.
00:26Round and round we go.
00:28That's exactly what we're going to do on NBA Showtime.
00:31Maria Taylor, the Hall of Famers here.
00:32Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter, and Carmelo Anthony.
00:35Yes, they went around the world.
00:37That's exactly what happened.
00:38The Spurs laying on the hammer to the Minnesota Timberwolves
00:42and Victor Wimbenyala really coming back
00:44and making a difference in this game.
00:45We can go back to the first six minutes
00:46because I keep pointing to it.
00:47He had 16 points, guys, and five rebounds.
00:51Before we looked up, he was sitting down on the bench
00:53and he had already made a statement, V.C.
00:54Yeah, that's what it's all about.
00:55I mean, this is your star player taking onus
00:58and he said, yes, I put you guys in a situation
01:00where I was not available.
01:02This is how I make up for it.
01:03The first six minutes, I'm going to put my imprint on the game
01:06and we're going to roll from there
01:07and they never look back.
01:08Never look back.
01:09This was, the first six minutes
01:10was Wimbeny's public apology to the team.
01:14Right?
01:14I like that.
01:15I like that, man.
01:16That was a public apology to the team
01:18and I think the team,
01:20I don't think, I think he came out
01:22wanting to really set that tone.
01:23Like, I don't like what happened.
01:25I don't like what I did.
01:26I don't like the scrutiny that's coming with this.
01:29I'm a basketball player first
01:31and this is playoff basketball
01:32and I'm going to set the tone
01:34in these first six minutes.
01:35And his team followed them
01:37and it was great to see tonight.
01:38It was great to see him.
01:40He took over this game.
01:42I mean, the skill set was on display
01:44from, you know, him putting the ball on the floor,
01:47getting downhill,
01:49stretching the floor,
01:51defensively.
01:52Everything that a basketball player
01:54could do in a game, he did it.
01:58All the good stuff, so.
02:01Again, he just put his imprint
02:03all over this game
02:04and like Mel say,
02:05those first six minutes, man,
02:07he let it be known
02:08that I apologize to my team
02:10and to this organization
02:11and I got us from this point on.
02:13Can we give some love to Keldon Johnson?
02:16Let's do it.
02:16Big time.
02:1721 points off the bench
02:18for Keldon Johnson.
02:19The most he's ever scored
02:20in a playoff game is 11 points.
02:22He's in his seventh season
02:23but he was huge, full of energy,
02:25added exactly what they needed
02:26off the bench.
02:27That's it.
02:27He found his way.
02:28Eight for 11.
02:29I mean, just efficient,
02:30continued to attack early.
02:31He didn't see the ball go in
02:33but he was still in attack mode
02:35and how do you do that?
02:36Go rebound, make plays,
02:37hustle plays, run the floor
02:38and he started just to see the ball go in.
02:4121 points.
02:41I mean, they had 49 points
02:43off the bench
02:43and he had almost half of them
02:45just with his energy and effort.
02:46I'm going to tell you what he did.
02:4668 points in the paint
02:47to 36 is crazy.
02:49That's where I was going.
02:50I'm going to tell you what he did
02:51because he's been struggling
02:53with his shot a little bit.
02:54He got into that paint
02:56and he used his muscle, right?
02:58He applied that pressure
02:59and it looked like
03:02he understood that
03:03this is a very physical series.
03:05I need to apply that.
03:06I need to be physical
03:07because the way he was
03:08getting downhill
03:08and getting to that paint
03:09and using his body to finish,
03:11he had it on his mind too.
03:13He had his...
03:14Yes, yes.
03:15Mr. Sixth Man of the Year,
03:16by the way, Keldon Johnson,
03:17doing exactly what he's done
03:18all season long,
03:19applying it to the playoffs as well.
03:21Okay, so if you're Minnesota,
03:23let's take a moment
03:23and think where do we go
03:25from here, T-Mac?
03:26Obviously, you're going back home,
03:27so that's great.
03:28You have pulled out
03:29some victories there,
03:30but what do you have to do
03:32and change the tone
03:33of this series?
03:34Well, it's the tale
03:36of real two teams, right?
03:38When I watch Minnesota,
03:40I watch an indecisive team.
03:42I watch...
03:43It's not fluid to me.
03:46It's all over the place.
03:47When you watch the Spurs,
03:49it is well-oiled.
03:51They're very decisive.
03:53They're very deliberate
03:54in where they want to go
03:55with the ball.
03:56Minnesota, on the other hand,
03:57it's just...
03:58It's all over the place.
03:58It's sporadic.
03:59So for me, it's like...
04:00If Ant-Man is not having
04:02a good game,
04:03who's going to step up
04:04for Ant-Man,
04:05and we haven't figured out
04:06who that guy is consistently,
04:08we know who could step up
04:09for San Antonio.
04:11And like I said,
04:12just Minnesota,
04:13we don't know.
04:14Dylan Harper step up.
04:15We've seen Stefan Castle
04:16step up.
04:17And it's almost like
04:18Ant-Man has to have
04:18a great game.
04:19He has to have a great game
04:20because we don't even know
04:22who his number two is.
04:24Julius Randle's supposed
04:25to be his number two.
04:26In this series,
04:27he hasn't performed like it,
04:28and I think it has to be him.
04:30What do you think, Mel?
04:32I'm just looking at
04:34Julius Randle.
04:35You know,
04:35when we talked about
04:36who is Ant's number two,
04:39right?
04:39And I don't want to let
04:40Ant off the hook either.
04:41Like, when he get a ball up,
04:42Ant on the double team,
04:43go back and get the ball.
04:44Like, I just want to
04:45throw that out there.
04:45Don't stand to have it.
04:46Especially when things
04:47are stagnant.
04:47Especially when things
04:48are stagnant.
04:49But Julius Randle,
04:50to me, like,
04:51what is wrong with him?
04:52He's just settling to me.
04:54Like, he's settling, bro.
04:55Mac, you know that.
04:56If we, if 12,
04:58three games straight
04:58with 12 points
04:59in the second round
05:00of the playoffs,
05:01were you supposed
05:01to be the number two guy?
05:03That's just unacceptable,
05:04and I think he's settling
05:06too much.
05:06He's overthinking the game.
05:08If you look back
05:08at the conference finals
05:10last year with Julius Randle,
05:12he was aggressive.
05:13He was downhill.
05:14He was physical.
05:15He was playing out
05:16the double teams.
05:17He was passing.
05:18He was just a confident player.
05:19I don't see that same confidence
05:21in Julius right now.
05:23To me, he's, oh,
05:24it's like he's thinking
05:24too much in the game
05:25of basketball.
05:27With a player struggling
05:28from shooting three-pointers,
05:30right?
05:30Because for me,
05:32Minnesota has to make
05:33threes to beat them.
05:34Wemby is protecting that paint.
05:38Rightfully so.
05:39So you have to knock down threes.
05:41But for Julius Randle,
05:43like, there's so many other areas
05:45where he can be effective,
05:46and he's not utilizing that.
05:48And I hope he's watching film
05:50with his coach
05:51or with whoever their player
05:53personnel or whoever
05:54he's watching film with
05:55to be able to break down
05:56certain areas
05:57where he can actually
05:58impact the game
05:59for himself to build
06:01a confidence.
06:02Because, yes,
06:02he can stretch the floor,
06:03and he can keep Wemby honest,
06:06right, keeping him away
06:06from the basket.
06:07So he has to find that way.
06:09Okay, I'm just hearing
06:10that Dylan Harper
06:11is sitting down the rookie
06:12who has been amazing
06:14off the bench
06:15and gets to join NBA Showtime.
06:18Hey, Dylan,
06:19let's just start with this
06:20being your first playoffs.
06:22You're a rookie,
06:23but you have seemed so poised
06:24throughout every single game.
06:26Just walk me through
06:27your mindset
06:27and the way you've been
06:28attacking the postseason.
06:29I mean, the biggest thing
06:31for me is to be me.
06:32I think coming into the playoffs
06:33is more like,
06:34obviously,
06:34it's the biggest age of basketball,
06:36but how do I just
06:37have that same mentality
06:38coming into every game
06:39and I think I'm doing that well?
06:41Deal, Mack here.
06:42So you've got two grades
06:43right there on the left side.
06:46Come on, man.
06:50So as a rookie, man,
06:52you're not playing
06:52like a rookie
06:53in these playoffs
06:54and this is high-level basketball.
06:55Tell us where you get
06:56that swag
06:57and that confidence from.
07:01I think just being
07:02in the gym all the time,
07:03I think that's where
07:03my confidence comes from
07:04and I think the swag,
07:05I was kind of just
07:06born with it,
07:07to be honest.
07:08I think this is
07:09the way I carry myself.
07:11I always try to be
07:12the hardest worker
07:12and I think that
07:13in moments like this,
07:14I think it pays off.
07:16Dylan, this is VC here.
07:18It seems like you've taken
07:19the Mono Ginobili
07:20six-man role
07:21to where you come in the game
07:22and you change the pace,
07:25make the difference
07:25or whatever the case may be.
07:27Talk about that.
07:28Like, you ready to go
07:29as soon as you step
07:30into the game.
07:31Yeah, I mean,
07:32sitting on the bench,
07:33I mean, I just try to
07:34figure out what the team needs
07:35and what the game
07:36is calling on me for.
07:37So I feel like today
07:38was more just physicality,
07:40rebounds and pushing the pace
07:41and finding my guys.
07:42But every game, you know,
07:43is something different.
07:44I mean, me, KJ, Luke,
07:47first three come in,
07:48I feel like we do a great job
07:49of just bringing the energy up.
07:51You spoke about IQ
07:52and just sitting on the bench
07:54and trying to just watch the game
07:56and see what goes on.
07:57You 20 years old, man,
07:58in your first NBA playoff series.
08:01Your dad got five rings.
08:03Your mom played in college.
08:04Your big brother's in the league.
08:06Like, do these moments,
08:07how much of what you,
08:09what we're watching right now
08:11is just everything
08:12that they prepared for you?
08:14How they prepared you for it.
08:16Yeah, I mean,
08:17they had me in the gym
08:18forever since I was born.
08:19I mean,
08:20I've kind of been around the game
08:21for a long time.
08:22And I mean, like you said,
08:23my dad got five.
08:24I'm trying to go chase me
08:25and get me a couple rings too.
08:27So I mean,
08:27I think it's always competitive
08:29in the family,
08:30no matter what.
08:31Yes, sir.
08:31I think that's just
08:32the greatest part
08:33about my family
08:33is that we're just so competitive.
08:34and I think everyone
08:36embraces and love each other,
08:38but I feel like we all
08:38got that little edge
08:39to each other.
08:40I have another question.
08:41This is VC again.
08:42In preparation for this game,
08:43we know,
08:44we knew Wimby was going to come out
08:46ready to play
08:47and fired up,
08:48but you also knew
08:49the level of physicality
08:51was going to go up
08:52another notch.
08:53How were you guys
08:53able to play the game
08:56under control and poised
08:57and support Wimby with that?
08:59Because you noticed
09:00there was a lot of pushing around,
09:01but everybody still stayed
09:02under control and poised.
09:03How were you guys
09:04prepared for that?
09:05I mean, yeah,
09:05we got his back all the time,
09:07but just try to be appropriate
09:09with the physicality.
09:11I mean, coming out,
09:11not really overreacting
09:13to anything
09:13because like you said,
09:14we knew when we came
09:15in the game
09:15what it was going to be.
09:16So just having his back
09:18and just, you know,
09:19making sure dead balls,
09:20timeouts,
09:20we bring it in
09:20and just calm each other down
09:22because at the end of the day,
09:23we all hear this to win.
09:24Do you still watch
09:25film with your mom?
09:29She sent me a long text today.
09:31She sent me a long text today.
09:33Okay.
09:33But yeah,
09:34I mean,
09:35definitely where we get the chance
09:36in the summertime,
09:37things like that.
09:38She definitely come to the gym,
09:39you know,
09:39talk the whole time,
09:40but that's motherly love.
09:42I love it.
09:43Yeah, shout out to mom.
09:44You know,
09:44just some days removed
09:45from Mother's Day.
09:46So congratulations
09:47on yet another win
09:48to Dylan Harper,
09:49playing so good,
09:50so poised in his rookie season
09:52and doing a great job
09:53helping to lead his team.
09:54The Spurs now
09:55with the 3-2 lead
09:56over the Minnesota Timberwolves
09:58in the Western Conference Semis.
10:00But guys,
10:00that's all the time
10:01that we have for you
10:02right now on NBC.
10:03No, no,
10:04you ain't going nowhere
10:05because you can join us
10:07on Peacock and NBCSN
10:08for more NBA Showtime.
10:10What we're going to do
10:11is have more reactions
10:12from T-Mac,
10:13Vince,
10:13and Melo.
10:13He's not going anywhere,
10:14okay?
10:15The Spurs,
10:16they certainly dominated.
10:16We're going to take another look
10:18at game five tomorrow.
10:20And we're two days removed
10:21from Mother's Day.
10:21Two days removed
10:22from Mother's Day
10:23on my birthday.
10:23See you on Peacock
10:24and NBCSN.
10:32NBA Showtime.
10:33Let's head to the podium.
10:34Anthony Edwards,
10:35Ayo DeSumo,
10:36addressing the media
10:36right now in San Antonio.
10:37is kind of the biggest
10:39problem tonight.
10:43I think they had
10:44a lot of second chance points.
10:50I don't know, man.
10:50I got to go look at the film
10:51to really answer that question.
10:53But first thing
10:54that came to mind
10:54is second chance points.
10:55I'm trying to find
10:56the offensive rebounds.
10:57I can't really find them.
10:5939.
11:00I mean, 27.
11:0127.
11:02How many rebounds
11:03have we had?
11:03No, they had 11.
11:04They had 11 offensive rebounds.
11:06I mean, we had 10
11:07offensive rebounds,
11:07so it's kind of even.
11:09But I think they converted
11:11on theirs more than we did.
11:15And it's been a couple games
11:17now in a row
11:18with slow starts
11:19to the game.
11:20You guys have kind of
11:21been digging out of a hole
11:22at the start.
11:22What do you think
11:23has been going on
11:24just at the start?
11:26I mean,
11:30tonight,
11:32some of the stuff
11:33that Wimby was doing,
11:33you can't,
11:34you don't really have
11:35too much of an answer for it.
11:39Just kind of hope he misses.
11:41But he was making,
11:42he came out high,
11:43he made a bunch of shots.
11:44I feel like we adjusted,
11:46fought back,
11:46fought back,
11:46fought back in the game.
11:49Tried to dig ourselves
11:50out of the hole,
11:51but I mean,
11:52eventually they created
11:54another league
11:55and running out
11:57in transition.
11:57We got to get back,
11:59get matched up.
12:00but just game plan
12:02mistakes that we keep making
12:03and it's too late
12:04in the series
12:04to make these mistakes.
12:05Is it like going under
12:07guys on screens?
12:08Is it transition defense?
12:09It's a little bit of everything.
12:11It's a little bit of everything.
12:14Not knowing a game plan,
12:16executing on offense.
12:18Like we know they're going
12:19to come out
12:19to be physical defensively.
12:21We know how to
12:23go against that.
12:25And then us defensively,
12:27we know our coverage
12:27is what we're supposed
12:28to be doing
12:28when they're in pick and roll.
12:29and I think we're
12:31just not doing it enough.
12:32I know you guys
12:33fought back to tie the score
12:35in the third quarter
12:36and then they outscored
12:37your 30-12
12:39from that moment on.
12:40Where do you think
12:41that got off the rails
12:42for you guys?
12:43What, maybe one or two
12:44things that happened there?
12:45Like Ann said,
12:47I think a lot of it
12:48has to do with
12:49game plan mistakes.
12:51Just, you know,
12:52when you're in a tight
12:53series like this
12:54and, you know,
12:55two-two game
12:57on the road,
12:58anything,
12:59any momentum,
13:00they feed off of that.
13:01So I just think
13:02that down the stretch,
13:03not even down the stretch,
13:04I think after we made a run,
13:06I would tell Ann,
13:07we was,
13:08it was a tight game,
13:08I think he missed a jumper,
13:10and then we came down,
13:12gave up a three,
13:14and it just went,
13:15you know,
13:15down here from there
13:17in terms of them
13:18going on a run.
13:18But what I would say
13:20off the top of my head
13:21is game plan mistakes.
13:24Anthony, you've played,
13:26I think, 40, 40,
13:27and 39
13:28the last three games.
13:29You're about to get
13:29a two-day break.
13:30How welcome is that
13:31within this series?
13:33I'm so happy.
13:34Yeah, I'm ready
13:35to get two days.
13:36I mean, it's not going
13:36to really be a break,
13:37but it's going to be two days.
13:39I'm excited for it.
13:40So you feel like
13:41the overall belief level,
13:43obviously you're down 3-2.
13:44You would have to come back
13:45here in a seven,
13:45but that you guys can kind of
13:47still climb out of this.
13:48Yeah, I don't see nobody
13:52in the locker room.
13:52That's too worried.
13:54At the end of the day,
13:55man, it's another
13:56basketball game.
13:58So you come out,
13:59put your boots on,
14:00and get ready to go to war.
14:02Yes, is there a challenge
14:04to game plan disciplines
14:06you guys are talking about
14:07in a road environment
14:08that's maybe a little
14:09more difficult,
14:11whether it's the crowd noise
14:12affecting communication
14:13or things like that
14:14that makes it maybe
14:15a little more difficult
14:16than maybe at home?
14:18I can't really pinpoint
14:20why we keep making
14:21the game plan mistakes.
14:23We just got to be
14:24better on it.
14:27Yeah, it's just that simple.
14:28We just got to be better
14:29at whatever the coaches
14:30draw up for the game plan,
14:31we got to go out there
14:32and execute it
14:32at the highest level.
14:36Ayo, much like in game two,
14:38they blew the game open
14:39when Jaden McDaniels
14:41was in foul trouble.
14:42He goes out,
14:43and you guys were down
14:44by, I think, 18
14:45at the end of the third quarter.
14:46What does it do for you guys
14:47when he's in foul trouble,
14:49and does it give them
14:51an advantage
14:51when he's resting like that?
14:53Of course.
14:54He means so much
14:55to our team.
14:55I always get selfishly frustrated
14:59when he gets in foul trouble,
15:00just because his presence
15:01out there on the defensive end
15:03and being able to make plays
15:04and be aggressive,
15:06we need that.
15:07So when he goes out
15:09in foul trouble,
15:11it hurts us
15:12because he means so much
15:13to our team.
15:14He's one of our anchors
15:15defensively,
15:16and he's been in those
15:19positions before also.
15:21So, yeah,
15:22he means a lot
15:23to our team for sure.
15:24Anthony kind of mentioned
15:26what Wemby did early.
15:28Is that the type of energy
15:29y'all kind of expected
15:30from him coming out
15:31considering what happened
15:32last game?
15:33I guess from your perspective,
15:34how hard is that type
15:36of burst for him
15:37to contain?
15:38Yeah, I mean,
15:38he's one of the best players
15:39in the league,
15:40so I always say
15:42playoff times,
15:43the best players
15:44rise to the occasion,
15:45and at any given moment,
15:47they can go off.
15:49If you've seen Ant last game,
15:51how he was able
15:52just to erupt
15:54and once he gets it going,
15:56it's like it's hard to stop,
15:57and I think Wemby,
15:58he came out
15:59with that same mindset.
16:00He made some easy ones,
16:02and then the basket
16:03starts to look a little
16:04big for him.
16:04So I wouldn't say
16:06we expected it.
16:07We came into the game
16:08trying to win the game,
16:09and we understand
16:10what kind of player he is.
16:12So when you're a good player
16:13like that,
16:14at any given moment,
16:15you can just break out.
16:17Ant, two years ago,
16:19you were in this
16:19same situation.
16:21You lost game five
16:22to Denver,
16:22and you came back
16:23and won the series.
16:24What do you maybe draw
16:25from that experience,
16:26and how did you guys,
16:28looking back on it,
16:29kind of refocus
16:30backs against the wall
16:31and come back
16:32and get that series?
16:34I mean,
16:37we know,
16:38like I said,
16:38the game plan.
16:39We know what we got to do
16:40in order to beat the team,
16:43and I think
16:44everything starts with
16:47Jaden McDaniels
16:47trying to keep him
16:48out of foul trouble
16:50because he's so important
16:51to the team.
16:52He's so important to us.
16:54It hurts everybody
16:55when he gets in foul trouble,
16:56and some tough calls
16:58being made out there
16:59against a man,
17:00so it's not too much
17:01we can say,
17:01but yeah,
17:03we just,
17:03we try to avoid him
17:04getting in foul trouble,
17:05and if we can do that,
17:06we give ourselves
17:06a great chance
17:07to win the ball game.
17:08Awesome.
17:08Thanks, guys.
17:09So,
17:09Jaden McDaniels
17:10had five fouls,
17:1117 points in this one.
17:13Meanwhile,
17:14the Timberwolves
17:15were outscored
17:1668 points to 36
17:17in the paint.
17:19They shoot it
17:19just 27% from the field,
17:21and Wimby was Wimby.
17:22He had 21 points
17:23and 11 rebounds
17:25at halftime,
17:26the first player
17:26with at least 20 and 10
17:28and a half
17:29these playoffs.
17:29Let's hear from
17:30his head coach,
17:31Mitch Johnson,
17:31in the locker room
17:32after the win.
17:35You guys said he told me
17:37he came out executed,
17:39he played with pace,
17:40the communication
17:41was phenomenal,
17:43especially early on.
17:46But that's the level
17:48of game plan execution,
17:50which is the schematic stuff
17:52that we've been talking about,
17:55and then that's the level
17:56of the togetherness
17:57on the thematic stuff,
17:59the communication,
18:01the passing,
18:01the trust in your teammate,
18:03along with whatever
18:04the nuances of
18:05that we're giving you guys,
18:06for game plan execution.
18:08That's how you put it together.
18:10That's how you
18:11walk down a series
18:13when you continue
18:13to play the same team
18:15over and over and over,
18:17and they know
18:17what we're doing,
18:20and we know what they're doing.
18:23That's a high-level performance
18:24you guys should feel good about.
18:27All right,
18:28two second-round series
18:29have wrapped up,
18:29but we've got two more
18:30still going.
18:31Tomorrow night on ESPN,
18:32it'll be game five
18:33between the Cavs
18:33and the Pistons.
18:34Then Friday,
18:35a doubleheader
18:35of game sixes.
18:36That'll happen on Prime.
18:37The Pistons visit Cleveland,
18:39where the Cavs are a perfect
18:406-0 so far this postseason,
18:42and the Spurs will head
18:43back to Minnesota,
18:44looking to close out
18:45the series
18:46against the Timberwolves.
18:47By the way,
18:48this evening,
18:48the Philadelphia 76ers
18:50announced they had
18:51parted ways
18:51with team president
18:52Daryl Morey
18:53after six seasons
18:54in charge of the organization.
18:56The former Warriors GM,
18:57Bob Myers,
18:58who serves as president
18:59of Harris Blitzer Sports
19:00and Entertainment,
19:01will lead the process
19:02of hiring Morey's replacement.
19:04Now,
19:05the 76ers reached
19:06the playoffs five times
19:07in six seasons
19:08under Morey,
19:09but failed to advance
19:09past the second round
19:11of the playoffs,
19:11which included a sweep
19:13at the hands of the Knicks
19:14this season
19:15in the conference semifinals.
19:16Now,
19:16Philly hasn't made
19:17the conference finals
19:18since 2001.
19:19That's the third longest
19:21active drought
19:21in the NBA.
19:23I guess the process
19:24is dead.
19:25That's me.
19:26Meanwhile,
19:29Wimby is still rising,
19:31okay?
19:31The Spurs playing well.
19:33They take the 3-2 lead
19:34against the Timberwolves.
19:35The statement has been made.
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20:00Now let's go back
20:00to the podium.
20:01Stephon Castle,
20:02he had 17 points.
20:03Eight of those 17
20:04coming in the third.
20:05He really poured
20:05some water on the fire
20:07that the Timberwolves started.
20:08He's at the podium now.
20:08Defense and the way
20:09y'all responded,
20:11you know,
20:11first half y'all came out
20:12really strong
20:13and then second half,
20:14I know they made
20:14a little run,
20:15but then y'all came back.
20:16Just talk about the way
20:17y'all were able
20:17to still be physical
20:18in that game.
20:20Yeah.
20:22I thought I had to start
20:23the game.
20:23We knew it was going
20:24to be physical.
20:25So just making that
20:26at a point of emphasis
20:27and trying to keep them
20:28off the offensive glass.
20:30I feel like we started
20:31the game off well
20:32and that's where
20:32our runs came from.
20:34But obviously,
20:35they're a good team.
20:36They're going to go
20:36on their own run.
20:37So just try not
20:40to hang our head
20:41when that does happen
20:43and be able to respond
20:44and spark another run
20:46for ourselves.
20:46So coming out of that
20:49halftime,
20:49you had that slow start
20:50and you kind of
20:51got it triggered.
20:52Was that your mindset
20:53or was it the game
20:54just come to you?
20:56Yeah.
20:56I mean,
20:57just trying to let it
20:57come to me.
20:59You know,
20:59not really trying
21:00to force any shots,
21:01trying to take the shots
21:01that, you know,
21:03were the right ones
21:04and that were there
21:05for me.
21:06When I was able
21:07to draw two
21:08and kick out,
21:09you know,
21:09we had a lot of success.
21:10So, you know,
21:12eventually they're going
21:12to have to start
21:13fanning back out
21:14and that's when
21:15the paint opened up
21:16most for us.
21:17Steph,
21:18as the series
21:19has gone along,
21:19as much as there is
21:20talk about playoff
21:22basketball and this
21:23is the way it is
21:23and whatnot,
21:25specifically in this series,
21:26have you gotten a little
21:26bit more used to
21:27the way the officials
21:29are calling this game
21:29or does it seem like
21:31it still varies
21:31game to game?
21:34I don't know.
21:36I mean,
21:36we knew everything
21:37that happened
21:38in like the last
21:3948 hours
21:40that they were going
21:40to call it,
21:40you know,
21:41pretty tight,
21:42especially early on
21:42in the game.
21:43So,
21:44I mean,
21:45that's just,
21:46that's just a thing
21:46you have to work
21:47through game
21:47because,
21:49I mean,
21:50if you're not
21:51physical with them,
21:52I mean,
21:52I said it before,
21:52you know,
21:53they have a lot of guys
21:53that can score
21:54in ISOs
21:55and play one-on-one.
21:56So,
21:57in order to get stops
21:59and be able to contest
21:59with them,
22:00you have to be physical.
22:01But,
22:01yeah,
22:02just trying to play smart,
22:03you know,
22:03see how the ref is calling it.
22:06Yeah,
22:06Steph,
22:06coach was saying
22:07that,
22:08you know,
22:09you guys might have
22:09gotten,
22:10Devin at shoot-around
22:11said that you guys
22:12might need
22:12upset Vic tonight
22:13to,
22:14you know,
22:14make a statement.
22:15Coach said
22:16you might have
22:16called him
22:17mature Vic instead.
22:18Which version
22:19do you feel
22:19that you guys
22:20got tonight
22:20and just how
22:21important was he,
22:22you know,
22:22coming back
22:22and adding him
22:23back into the lineup?
22:25I mean,
22:26I feel like we got
22:26the Vic
22:28that you've seen
22:28all year.
22:31I just think,
22:32I think his maturity
22:34level was off the charts.
22:37I mean,
22:37he played smart,
22:39you know,
22:39didn't really foul much,
22:41you know,
22:41took the shots
22:42that were there for him.
22:43So,
22:43I mean,
22:44when he's playing like that,
22:45playing aggressive
22:45with everything
22:46that he brings
22:47for us defensively,
22:48I feel like we're
22:49pretty hard to beat.
22:49So,
22:51yeah,
22:52I think just
22:52where his mindset
22:53has been at,
22:54you know,
22:54the last 48 hours,
22:56I know he wanted
22:57to finish game four,
22:57but,
22:58you know,
22:58not letting that get to him
22:59and come out
23:00and play like that,
23:02I thought it was a big reason
23:03why we won.
23:03What was he like
23:04at, like,
23:05shoot around
23:05and pregame today?
23:06Did you notice anything
23:07where you're like,
23:08you knew this guy
23:08was going to come out
23:09and have a big first half
23:11like he did?
23:13I mean,
23:13nah.
23:15I mean,
23:16I damn near expect
23:16that every game,
23:18but I thought
23:18he was pretty,
23:19pretty normal
23:20as shit around.
23:20I mean,
23:21I couldn't really,
23:21I couldn't really
23:22sense anything
23:23different from him.
23:25Just,
23:26what do you think
23:26that Sean Sweeney
23:27has meant to you guys
23:29start of the season
23:30to where you are now?
23:32I mean,
23:32he's been great for us.
23:34I mean,
23:35one of the main reasons
23:36why,
23:37you know,
23:37we're one of the top
23:38defenses in the league,
23:39so,
23:40I just think
23:41his attention to detail
23:43on everything
23:43and the way
23:45he can explain things
23:46to make it make sense
23:47for us
23:47and,
23:48you know,
23:49where he puts guys
23:50at on the spots
23:51and,
23:52you know,
23:52helping us out
23:53with tendencies
23:53and what guys
23:54like to do.
23:56I feel like
23:56it's a big reason,
23:57like I said,
23:57it's a big reason
23:58why,
23:58you know,
23:58we're one of the
23:59top defenses in the West.
24:01All right,
24:02guys,
24:02let's take an early look
24:03at the line
24:04from DraftKings Sportsbook
24:05for tomorrow's Game 5
24:06between the Cavaliers
24:07and the Pistons.
24:08The home team
24:08has won the first
24:09four games of the series
24:10and Detroit is a
24:11three-and-a-half-point
24:13favorite at home tomorrow.
24:15The Motor City,
24:16they're trying to keep it rolling
24:17and we're going to talk about it.
24:18Which star will shine brighter?
24:20Donovan Mitchell
24:20or Cave Cunningham
24:22in a pivotal Game 5
24:24in this Eastern Conference Semis?
24:33With DraftKings,
24:34it's more fun
24:35when it's for fun.
24:36DraftKings.
24:37So tomorrow night,
24:38the second round continues
24:40back in the East
24:40with Game 5
24:41between the Cavaliers
24:42and the Pistons
24:43on ESPN.
24:44That series is all
24:45tied up at 2-2
24:45with the home team
24:46winning each
24:47of the first four games
24:48and we're going to see
24:49who takes control
24:50in the Motor City.
24:52Obviously,
24:52Donovan Mitchell,
24:53that's exactly what he did
24:54in the second half
24:55from what we saw
24:56in Game 4,
24:5739 points
24:57and the team needed
24:58every one of them.
24:59They needed them
25:00to come out the locker room
25:00and play exactly the way
25:01that he did.
25:03But let's talk about
25:03Cleveland taking that
25:04same sentiment on the road.
25:05Like, we got to get that
25:06to show up in Detroit
25:08or on the road
25:08in the postseason
25:09in general for the Cavaliers.
25:10If you're the Cleveland Cavaliers,
25:11you must figure out
25:13how you can duplicate
25:15the second half
25:16of that game.
25:17Meaning,
25:19I mean,
25:19everyone,
25:20but Donovan Mitchell
25:21coming out playing well
25:22because they played
25:23a very solid first half
25:25but Donovan Mitchell
25:26was not there.
25:26Now,
25:27how can you put
25:28everything together
25:29and figure out
25:29how you can get
25:30your win on the road
25:31because we already said
25:32the first team
25:33to win on the road
25:34gives you a chance.
25:35Well,
25:35for the Cleveland,
25:36you need to win
25:37on the road
25:37to win this.
25:38If you're Detroit,
25:40you don't want
25:40to put yourself
25:41in that position
25:42at Game 7.
25:43Yes,
25:43you earned the right
25:44to have a Game 7,
25:46but the way this series
25:47has gone,
25:48you don't want
25:48to play with that.
25:49I think for Cleveland,
25:50treat Game 6
25:51like it's Game 7,
25:52right?
25:52So,
25:53you're going in
25:54with that mentality
25:55like you have
25:55to close this game out
25:56and what I think
25:59they should do
25:59is what they've been doing.
26:01Target K.E. Cunningham.
26:03Wear him down
26:03because he's the engine
26:05to everything
26:05they do offensively.
26:07So,
26:07every chance you get,
26:08put him in pick and roll
26:09and go at him
26:10and see if he would stand
26:11guarding
26:12and then going on
26:13the other end
26:13and playing efficient basketball
26:15on the offensive end.
26:16I would like to see
26:16Cleveland put two halves
26:18of basketball.
26:18Oh,
26:19are you coming to me?
26:19Hey,
26:20there you go back.
26:20I would like to see
26:24Cleveland put two
26:25good halves together,
26:27complete halves
26:27as opposed to
26:28just the second half
26:30or the first half
26:31or a couple guys
26:32playing good
26:32in the first half
26:33and then the next
26:34couple guys
26:34are playing good
26:35in the second half.
26:36Like,
26:36how can we get
26:36a full game
26:37on the road,
26:38attention to details,
26:40let's leave it out there.
26:41James have a great game,
26:42Donovan have a great game,
26:44Evan Mobley have a great game.
26:45That's the X-Fact.
26:46No, no.
26:47That's the X-Fact.
26:48That's the X-Fact.
26:49On the road.
26:50Yes.
26:51Mobley is the X-Fact.
26:52Obviously,
26:52all switches,
26:54guarding the guards
26:55on pick and rolls,
26:56protecting the basket,
26:57being in the passing lanes,
26:58doing everything.
26:59He has to be the X-Fact.
27:00And he did a little bit
27:01of everything defensively.
27:03Yes.
27:03Yes, in game four.
27:04He had eight rebounds,
27:05five blocks,
27:05and three steals.
27:06So he was a little bit
27:07of everywhere
27:08on the defensive end.
27:09Let's talk about the Pistons
27:10just a little bit.
27:11We talked about Jalen Duren
27:12and really just his struggle
27:14so far this season.
27:15Averaging nine points
27:16less than he did
27:17in the regular season,
27:18you're the call-em-up guy.
27:20So call him up to the front.
27:21Call him up.
27:22Yeah, come on up
27:22to the front, this fella.
27:24Control that paint.
27:26Be a brute down there.
27:27Be physical.
27:28Catch first.
27:28Catch and finish
27:30with force, right?
27:32Finish with force.
27:33And then on the defensive side,
27:35anything,
27:36be a rim protector, right?
27:37Set great screens,
27:39roll, finish at the basket strong.
27:41Just have your imprint
27:42all over this game
27:43the best way you can.
27:44You could do it.
27:45Average 19 in the regular season.
27:47Hey, man,
27:48just get it out your head
27:48and just go play.
27:49Call him up, Mac.
27:52What do you need to see
27:53from Jalen Duren?
27:55Game one,
27:56Duren,
27:56he needs to find his way
27:57in the building.
27:58And the reason I say that
28:00is his aggressiveness,
28:01his approach to the game
28:02was,
28:03I'm going to be more physical
28:04than you,
28:05but under control.
28:06Because when he did that,
28:08he put Jared Allen
28:09on the bench immediately
28:10and they took over the game.
28:11That took away a shot blocker,
28:12you're able to get into the rim,
28:14and everything opened up for him.
28:15But when you have
28:16those twin towers
28:17over there in Cleveland
28:18flying around,
28:19blocking shots,
28:19running the floor,
28:20getting offensive rebounds,
28:21creating opportunities,
28:23it's been a tough way for them.
28:25Tough postseason for him.
28:26Go ahead.
28:26Can we get,
28:27can we,
28:28as Cleveland,
28:28can we get,
28:29I'm taking his we.
28:31I love it, yeah.
28:31Can we get two guys
28:33off the bench
28:34for Cleveland
28:35to step up?
28:37Who are the two guys
28:38that's going to step up
28:39on the road in Detroit
28:41for this game?
28:41And that's pivotal for,
28:44I mean,
28:44it don't matter who it is.
28:46I think Cleveland
28:47need two guys,
28:48two role players
28:49that really have
28:50impactful games
28:51to win this game.
28:51on the road.
28:52Okay, yeah, yeah.
28:54Well, what about for Detroit?
28:55We saw Karis Levert
28:56and how on Pivotal,
28:57I mean,
28:58he played very well,
28:59obviously didn't end
29:00the way that they wanted to,
29:01but that was something special
29:02that you can kind of
29:02take away from game four.
29:04I like the approach
29:05and the confidence
29:06of Karis Levert, right?
29:07So if he can,
29:08if he did that in Cleveland,
29:09now you're home.
29:10You got your home crowd
29:11behind you.
29:12Could you duplicate that?
29:13But could you put together
29:14a four game
29:15as opposed to just
29:16having one good half?
29:18Could you do a 48-minute game
29:19or the minutes
29:20that you're going to play,
29:20can you be as impactful
29:22in this game
29:23as you were in Cleveland?
29:24Would you guys agree
29:25this is an identity game
29:25for Detroit?
29:27All right,
29:27all that has going on,
29:28we didn't play well
29:29in Cleveland.
29:30Now we're back on our floor.
29:32It's time to, you know,
29:33implement our identity
29:34in this game
29:35because if I feel like
29:36they're more the physical team
29:37and you get help,
29:39you allow K to be K
29:41in the second half.
29:42games at home.
29:43That's what I'm saying.
29:44They're back at home.
29:44So now this is that
29:45identity game.
29:46Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:46Just be who you are at home.
29:48Do that.
29:50Be that in the Motor City.
29:52Victor Wimbanyama,
29:52he's sitting down
29:53at the podium
29:53as we speak.
29:54Let's take a listen in
29:55as he addresses the media.
29:56You're starting with,
29:58with figuring out
29:59what a flagrant two was
30:00in Minnesota.
30:01What has the last
30:0248 hours been like for you?
30:09I've been working
30:10with the team
30:11to come back
30:12after a loss,
30:14taking care of my body,
30:15watching film,
30:17being locked in at practice.
30:19Simple as that.
30:21Victor,
30:22your,
30:22your start tonight,
30:23how much of that
30:24was concerted,
30:26looking to get
30:27going early
30:28and how much of that
30:29was within the flow
30:30of the way the game started?
30:32I think it's,
30:33it's super important
30:34for us.
30:35The way we started
30:37the game
30:37because it sets the tone.
30:40Now,
30:41the challenge is to do it
30:42for 48 minutes.
30:44Yeah,
30:45whether it was
30:46stemming from
30:46the flagrant two or not,
30:48something Devin said
30:49at Shooter on this morning
30:49was that the Spurs
30:51were going to need
30:51to upset Vic
30:52to come out tonight
30:53to, you know,
30:54get this win.
30:55Mitch called it
30:56more of a mature Vic.
30:57I'm just curious
30:58if there's either one
30:58of those that you prefer
30:59or maybe another word.
31:01Just, you know.
31:02They ain't mutually
31:03exclusive,
31:04so I'm looking
31:07for both.
31:11Victor,
31:12after having time
31:12to reflect,
31:13is there,
31:14would you have
31:15done things differently?
31:16Did you have
31:17any regrets
31:17about the elbow?
31:20Just reflecting on,
31:21after having time
31:22to reflect.
31:25I mean,
31:26it was two games ago.
31:28It's the playoffs.
31:29I'm focused.
31:30I was focused
31:31on the game today
31:32and now I'm focusing
31:33on the game
31:33in Minnesota
31:34in three days.
31:36It's the playoff.
31:37We got to move on
31:38and I got to care
31:41about my team.
31:42Victor,
31:43obviously,
31:43when they would grab you,
31:44you would ever,
31:45you appeared frustrated
31:46in the past,
31:47but tonight,
31:47it seemed like
31:48it didn't phase you anymore,
31:49that there was a point
31:51where IO early
31:51in the game
31:52was coming over
31:52to you saying something
31:53and you just kind of
31:54seemed to laugh it off.
31:55Do you feel like
31:56after maybe getting
31:57that release,
31:58the physicality
31:58doesn't phase you
31:59in the same way anymore
32:00and you're more used to it?
32:07Yeah,
32:08I feel like
32:09the rage baiting
32:10would have been
32:11maybe one of the strategies,
32:13so I feel like
32:16we need to stay
32:17composed as a team.
32:19Vic,
32:20just how much
32:22were you itching
32:22to just get back
32:23on the court
32:23after what happened
32:24in game four?
32:24Sorry?
32:25How much were you
32:26just itching
32:26to get back
32:26on the court?
32:29Very,
32:29very much.
32:29I mean,
32:30I was fresh,
32:33feeling good,
32:34but honestly,
32:34it's hard to tell
32:36if it's just,
32:37it was just game five.
32:39Obviously,
32:40I'm going to be excited.
32:41I'm going to have
32:42butterflies,
32:43you know,
32:43so excitement
32:45is not something
32:49abnormal,
32:49at this point
32:50in the playoffs.
32:54The effort
32:55from your team
32:56defensively tonight
32:57and throughout
32:57the playoffs,
32:58how would you
32:58put that into words?
32:59The defensive effort?
33:00Yes.
33:08I would say
33:09it's an area
33:10where you need
33:12to be willing
33:13to do it
33:13and to do the sacrifices
33:15and to do the extra effort,
33:18and it's been working
33:19pretty well.
33:19We can get better,
33:21but when we're
33:23locked in
33:23and apply
33:25to scouting,
33:26we're really,
33:27really good.
33:28What role
33:29do you,
33:30or how much credit
33:30do you give Sweeney
33:31for what you guys
33:32have become defensively?
33:34Oh,
33:34I mean,
33:35all of it.
33:40Victor,
33:40there's a viral video
33:42of you going around
33:43arriving back
33:43in San Antonio
33:44and Coach Pop
33:45is waiting for you
33:46at the airport
33:46and you look very
33:47attentive to what
33:48he's saying.
33:49I'm not asking you
33:50to give away
33:51anything private,
33:52but what does it
33:53mean to you
33:53knowing that Coach Pop
33:55was waiting for you
33:56at the airport
33:56after such an
33:57emotional game?
33:58And was there
33:59something from
33:59that conversation,
34:00whether it was
34:01a lesson,
34:02a message,
34:02or a tone
34:03that stayed with you
34:04heading into
34:05tonight's game
34:05or in tonight's game?
34:10Yeah.
34:11I mean,
34:11I feel like
34:11I'm not going
34:12to leak anything
34:13he said,
34:14obviously,
34:14but he maybe
34:16wanted to,
34:17you know,
34:18make a statement
34:18or make his
34:20talking even more
34:21impactful by being
34:22there,
34:23but he gives
34:24feedback and
34:25talks to us
34:28regularly,
34:29you know,
34:30throughout series,
34:31throughout games.
34:32So,
34:33as always,
34:34when he speaks
34:34everybody listens.
34:37So good to hear
34:38from Wimby
34:38after that win.
34:40They passed out
34:40a bunch of
34:41basketballs.
34:41This might be
34:42our last time
34:42in the studio
34:43together.
34:43I feel like...
34:44Man, no way.
34:44It might be.
34:45Mello,
34:46just the way
34:46the playoffs led.
34:47Next time you
34:47see us,
34:48we might be
34:48on the road.
34:49I feel like
34:49somebody has to...
34:50Can't wait
34:50to get on the road.
34:51You've been on the ride.
34:53No, no, no.
34:53I need the world
34:54to see.
34:55I need the world
34:56to see this ball
34:57on one hand.
34:57That was behind
34:58the scenes,
34:59Mello.
34:59Woo!
35:01Woo!
35:02Woo!
35:03Okay, Mello.
35:04Okay, okay, okay.
35:08She's showing us
35:08off now.
35:09She's showing us
35:10off.
35:11With the iPad
35:12and four-inch heels.
35:14Man.
35:15It's just
35:15on the birthday.
35:16On the birthday.
35:17On the birthday?
35:18Listen, y'all.
35:19Okay, Mello.
35:20Okay, what a suit
35:22jacket on.
35:23Let's go.
35:24Shout out to Rick Therese.
35:25Listen, listen.
35:26All I know is
35:27we can beat
35:28Jamal, Reggie,
35:29Tariqo,
35:30anybody want to show up
35:32and challenge
35:32NBA Showtime,
35:33we got you.
35:34We are the
35:35Eastern Conference
35:36finalists.
35:37We have really
35:38enjoyed you.
35:39We hope you enjoyed
35:40the Spurs.
35:41We hope you enjoyed
35:42the Timberwolves.
35:43Fellas.
35:43There you go.
35:46It's been real.
35:47Thank you.
35:50We'll be right back.
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