00:00Most people would agree that a child, a three or four year old,
00:03shouldn't be blamed for what their parents decided to do.
00:13They also don't have access to health care.
00:15They don't have access to welfare.
00:17What's your age?
00:196 years old.
00:20Are you at school?
00:22No.
00:22Why not?
00:24No.
00:25The idea that a family should be tainted by association is so fundamentally unfair,
00:32and that if we allow for that kind of thinking, then where does that end?
00:43My job with Human Rights Watch in Iraq is to go into the field,
00:47so when we write about abuses, we have that direct firsthand testimony.
00:57In a country like Iraq, as you can imagine, there are hundreds if not thousands of human rights issues.
01:02If I work on this issue right now, is there a chance that we can bring about change?
01:07Is there a chance that we can stop the abuses from happening?
01:30I'm entering a camp south of Mosul that's holding hundreds of families.
01:35Some of these families are accused of having links to ISIS.
01:39They're accused of this because they have fathers or brothers or sons who are said to have joined the group.
01:46In many ways, camps like this represent a mass exercise of collective punishment against these families.
01:54This is illegal under international law, and this could represent a war crime.
02:00These families lost their documents when they were fleeing fighting.
02:03Sometimes ISIS took their documents.
02:05Sometimes Iraqi security forces took their documents.
02:08And they ended up with absolutely nothing proving their identity.
02:11Now, as they try to get their documents back, when they go to governmental offices,
02:16they're told, your father was ISIS, you are ISIS.
02:20You do not deserve your documents.
02:21We will not give them to you.
02:28Who made the cake?
02:30Who made her cake?
02:30Come on, I don't know.
02:31This is the government's decision.
02:33This is the school's decision.
02:35My parents are very few kids.
02:38And they are very few kids.
02:49in the context that these women, of course, have children
02:52and are raising children in a growing atmosphere of anger and resentment
02:55for the fact that they're being punished not for anything they did
02:59but what their loved ones, their husbands, their sons might have done.
03:19I mean, what would they do if they were to kill them?
03:24She has two sons who she said joined ISIS and later died.
03:29Now she is raising her son's children and other children that were left in her care.
03:35Right now she has nine children she's taking care of
03:38and she's taking care of them all alone in this camp.
03:41I told her my husband, but I didn't get it with her, all the time.
03:44She returned to her, I said her son's father, and I took care of her.
03:49She was getting married.
03:51She was all around.
03:51And then all of them were all over.
03:54She was all around her and I was all around her.
03:55They are going to take care of her.
03:57I'm the one who was born with her.
03:58She has had an immune system.
04:02I was not able to get married to her.
04:06She couldn't get married to her.
04:22The minute that I leave that tent and I'm leaving this person to their thoughts, having
04:27just dredged up old and painful memories is something that causes me a lot of concern.
04:36There are many very difficult stories that I've heard and had to process.
04:41The upbringing that I had really helped me to deal with some of the stuff that I see
04:45in my work.
04:46I had the benefit of growing up in Switzerland, a very safe country, a country where I had
04:50access to education in a very stable environment.
04:54Coming out of that, what I felt very acutely, and I already felt this in sort of my early
04:58teens, was that because I was given all of that, I really do have an obligation to use
05:03what was given to me to help those who don't have the same opportunities.
05:22I do really worry about the kids in these families in particular and the extent to which they're
05:29going to become radicalized.
05:30ISIS, which continues to be a concern in Iraq and isn't gone, is going to take that opportunity
05:36to target these children and to recruit them.
05:39I really fear that you're just going to see the next wave in Iraq of radicalization.
05:45I think most sensible people would agree that keeping that child out of school is not only
05:51unfair but it's actually dangerous to the country.
05:53It's dangerous to have thousands, perhaps tens or hundreds of thousands of kids kicked out
05:59of the education system, prevented from getting things like access to healthcare, access to
06:04welfare.
06:04That is going to damage the fabric of Iraqi society.
06:20What we want is for these families to be able to go home, for their kids to grow up at
06:24home.
06:25But at least this would be in a limited way, a certain measure of success that these kids
06:30would be in school.
06:31I say to families, the problems that you're facing right now, I can't fix them.
06:36All I can do is promise that I will share with the world the words that you gave me.
06:42The work that we do can fundamentally bring about change.
06:45We are able to use stories that people give us, give them a platform, an ability to speak
06:53very directly to a global community.
06:56That ultimately is what brings about change.
07:12То, for you know what's happening...
07:13Those who've heard really weren't much overlap, all of the world the world is combined.
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