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Killer Confessions: Case Files of a Texas Ranger - Season 1 - Episode 04: A Mother's Manipulation
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00:08Ma'am, ma'am, I can't understand you when you're screaming.
00:12A good friend of mine calls me and asks me for my assistance on a case.
00:18He has this long history of extremely weird cases.
00:27It was unspeakable tragedy late today in Texas.
00:31Two siblings, ages 2 and 16 months, were found dead in a hot car.
00:36The mother was expressing grief.
00:39My baby.
00:40But we had a hunch that she didn't tell us the 100% truth.
00:49You didn't accidentally leave your kids in the car.
00:51Oh, no, sir.
00:52The big question is, is this someone who lied about what occurred?
00:57It's much better for you to be honest.
01:00And did some things to cover it up.
01:03Convince me that this is an accident.
01:05Or is this a monster?
01:07What else do you want to clear up real quick?
01:36Generally, I get called in on cases that are just totally screwed up.
01:40And this one's twofold.
01:43One, because of the victims and their age.
01:47And two, because of the mother.
02:03Hecker County 9-1-1.
02:04Beус attacking.
02:05Be false.
02:06Many of them.
02:06My son is still alive.
02:11Ma'am.
02:12Ma'am.
02:13I can't understand you when you're screaming.
02:14What is going on?
02:16That mom is just kidding me.
02:18One, and a one-year-old.
02:19They are locked in the car.
02:21I think I'm locked up.
02:23Ma'am.
02:32Parker County deputies respond, and they find the mother of these two children, Cynthia Randolph, completely distraught.
02:41And the first deputy walks into the house and sees the children, Juliet and Cavanaugh Ramirez, ages 2 and 1.
02:50And on the kitchen table, seeing that their lips were blue, it was obvious they were dead.
03:04I was working that day on an out-of-town job.
03:07Cynthia called me frantically and said, Juliet locked herself in the car, she's not breathing, 9-1-1's on her
03:14way.
03:16Richard said, something's happened, I'm really not sure what happened, but Cynthia's screaming, will you please go to my house?
03:27And when I got there, I saw the ambulance sitting at the top of the hill.
03:36My husband said, it's not going to be good.
03:40Once I got to my actual residence, I saw one of the sheriffs.
03:45I'm like, okay, well, where's my son at?
03:47The sheriff said, they were both in that vehicle, and they both are deceased.
03:54You know, I'm just in shock.
03:57I see Cynthia.
03:59So when I ask her what happened, she's like crying.
04:02She's grabbing me.
04:04A sheriff said, you know, would you like to go in and see the kids?
04:08And whether it be in the small town it is, I went to school with a medical examiner.
04:13She's in tears.
04:14She said, Ricky, you don't want to go in there.
04:20Once I got there, I went inside the house, saw the two deceased children on the table in the kitchen
04:28area.
04:29In this line of work, and I did it for 27 years, you get used to seeing death in all
04:35of its forms, okay?
04:37But anytime you see pure innocence laying there, dead, that takes a little more out of you.
04:46There's a lot of stuff we didn't know at the time.
04:49And I was told that the Parker County investigator was talking to Cynthia Randolph, who was the mother of the
04:57two deceased children.
04:59I'm very sorry for the loss, okay?
05:02My baby.
05:05I'm sorry.
05:06That's okay.
05:09Cynthia, this is Tony Bradford, and he helps me out.
05:13We want to do what we have to do and get out of the way as quickly as we can,
05:18okay?
05:19To do that, I do need to talk to you and ask you if you're flushing, okay?
05:24So just tell me about your day today.
05:28Woke up at 7.30, kind of running a little late.
05:33Got the kids, put them in the car, and left.
05:35What did you go to do?
05:36Just to drop off my husband, because he was going out of town to work.
05:42Came home, I cooked for the kids.
05:44And then we watched movies in the living room.
05:47She stated that she was inside folding laundry, and the kids were inside the house playing.
05:52But at some point, she noticed she didn't hear them, and she just lost track of them.
05:58Two-year-olds, they wander, you know?
06:01And so I'm looking, and I go and look through the house.
06:04I look through the house first, and then I come out here looking for them.
06:06I'm just running around looking for them.
06:10The last thing I did was in the car.
06:18As soon as I found them, I broke the window.
06:22They weren't responding, so I called 911.
06:26And when I grabbed them, they were out to the side.
06:32I tried to do CPR.
06:33They weren't responsive.
06:37When you came out and saw them in the car, I'm assuming it was locked.
06:43My daughter had the keys and the phone in there.
06:46Had the keys and your cell phone?
06:49Yes.
06:50I guess she grabbed them and got in there.
06:54She said they went out the door, used a key fob, opened the door up, got in, shut herself in
07:03there.
07:04I wasn't buying it.
07:08I'm looking at these kids sitting there, and I'm like, is it even possible for them to open the door?
07:15But right now is not the time to push her.
07:17Right now is the time to just get her side of the story.
07:21Have you had anything to drink today?
07:23No, sir.
07:26You smoked pot today?
07:29Early this morning, got four.
07:32Okay.
07:32Yes.
07:34During the time that you didn't know where they were, where did you think they were?
07:38In the sunroom.
07:39You thought they were in the sunroom?
07:40Correct.
07:44You didn't accidentally leave your kids in the car?
07:46Oh, no, sir.
07:47Oh, no.
07:48Okay.
07:49No, sir.
07:50No, they come with me everywhere I go.
07:52Okay.
07:53Yes, sir.
07:54No, I would never leave my kids in the car.
07:56Okay.
07:56No, sir.
07:57Okay.
07:57My baby.
07:59Okay.
08:00I tell you, my daughter knows how to open these doors.
08:07Detectives are investigating the deaths of two young children.
08:10Weatherford is a very old-fashioned, close-knit community, and there was a lot of curiosity surrounding this case.
08:19It just somehow didn't fit.
08:21A two-year-old, 16-month-old, suddenly walked out, got in the car, locked the doors.
08:31It just seemed a little strange.
08:36We've got a lot of digging to do and a lot of stuff to look at.
08:40And so I went through the house and walked it and noted some drug paraphernalia, marijuana, in the kitchen area,
08:51in the bedroom, along with a couple of containers of alcohol.
08:58One thing that was curious at the house was that the bathtub had water beads in the bottom and a
09:06little bit of water pooled up, kind of like if you had used the bathtub.
09:09But Cynthia made no mention about the bathtub being used.
09:16At one point, she had stated that the kids had been playing in the sunroom, and the temperature was, I
09:23think, 104.
09:26The fact that that sunroom was so hot, the thought did cross my mind that maybe this didn't happen the
09:33way she said they didn't die in the car, but they may have died in the house.
09:39Then it's like, okay, kids die in hot cars. Let's go make it look like they got in the car.
09:45We don't like to think that a mother would intentionally cause harm to her children, but we're also getting our
09:54ducks in a row about this woman and why she might have done something like this.
09:57When you have mind-altering substances laying around, and you've got unusual circumstances, your spidey senses are telling you that
10:07this woman is not being truthful with us.
10:11We've got to get her to tell us what really happened.
10:26Two siblings, ages 2 and 16 months, were found dead in a hot car in Weatherford.
10:33Those children were found inside of the car here on their property.
10:36There's, like, news, media, and, like, three or four helicopters circling around. I'm like, oh, man, this is really happening.
10:44Authorities tell us this will likely be a lengthy investigation.
10:49I met Cynthia through a mutual friend. We just stay up to, like, two or three talking, just, you know,
10:56chilling and kind of led on from there.
11:03I was looking forward to the family part of it as well. I feel like we were in a really
11:07good spot. We were hitting our stride.
11:11And then everything changes in a flash, literally.
11:19At the end of the first day, the investigators wanted to treat Cynthia Randolph like a grieving parent.
11:24They knew that they had a lot more work to do.
11:26And so the next step was for the bodies of these two kids to go to the medical examiner.
11:35The autopsy basically showed that the kids died of excessive overheating.
11:42There was no signs of trauma.
11:44There were a little bit of glass fragments on one of the children.
11:48That, in my mind, confirmed that the kids were in the car.
11:53Cynthia's statement was that they had gotten into the vehicle by herself.
11:57We had nothing at that point other than what you would call a hunch that she didn't tell us the
12:07100% truth.
12:09So I called over to a pediatric specialist for an opinion.
12:14If Juliet, with her arm outstretched, would have been capable of reaching the handle on the Honda,
12:21is it even possible for them to open the door?
12:24She didn't consider it likely, but she could not testify that it was impossible.
12:33One of the most important things for investigators to do in a case like this is to find cameras close
12:39to the scene.
12:40But this is a rural area.
12:42There were a whole lot of houses on multiple acres,
12:45and so there just wasn't any kind of surveillance, even remotely close to available, to tell what happened.
12:53We didn't have any footage of anybody coming and going from her house.
12:58I mean, we had nothing.
13:00We had basically exhausted every investigative avenue.
13:05So I thought, this is going to come down to somebody going into the room with her
13:13without any evidence backing them up, and they're going to have to get it out of her.
13:18So I made the decision to call Jim in on this.
13:29Tony called and told me the story.
13:31As soon as I found out the victims were both children, I was in.
13:34I asked him to send me all the information.
13:37As a parent, I was committed to finding answers.
13:41I looked at the case for probably about a week.
13:45I got my hands on everything I could get my hands on.
13:48You know, I'm digging through this thing, and I guess what struck me from the get-go
13:52was the positioning of the children.
13:56You can actually see rigor mortis from the pictures, but based on the mother's initial
14:03statements that she lost track of them for around 30 minutes and then she looked for them
14:07for a while, what I was seeing didn't make sense.
14:11Based on the ambient temperature in the vehicle, the outdoor temperature, I would guess at a
14:17minimum, you would start seeing rigor mortis setting in maybe at the earliest an hour.
14:24More than likely two hours, three hours.
14:29I mean, there's lots of questions.
14:39So, a couple days later, I have Randolph brought up to the Sheriff's Department.
14:45Hey, how you doing?
14:46I'm Jim Hollins with Rachel.
14:47Hey, grab your seat.
14:54You doing all right today?
14:57I'm trying.
14:58Getting better?
15:00My original thought process was to basically sit down and start working through the case
15:05with her, and to go back through the original facts to see if she was going to tell me the
15:09same thing that she told the original investigators.
15:12Now, where are you staying now?
15:13At my mother's.
15:14Okay.
15:15Richard, the father, he's been kind of here and there, but also he's been keeping his distance.
15:21What's happening with the marriage?
15:24There's tension on both sides of the family.
15:26Just because now he has that on me.
15:31He has, you were the last one with him.
15:33You could have done this.
15:34You could have done that.
15:36And also me and one of my exes.
15:38We recently started talking again a couple months ago.
15:41Mm-hmm.
15:42And it was kind of off and on.
15:44Richard, on the other hand, was, you know, he wouldn't come home.
15:48I saw the women texting.
15:49I even have, right now, I have text messages of women texting me.
15:54Women are texting you?
15:56Yes.
15:56He's good at what he does.
15:58He makes everything seem so good where he puts that mask on.
16:02And then when the true colors come out, that's when you know who he is.
16:06Her story goes totally off the rails as soon as we sit down.
16:11She goes into this long backstory how, you know, he was cheating on me and I'm cheating on him.
16:16He's telling these women that I killed our kids.
16:19I did this.
16:19I did that.
16:20So I'm getting messages.
16:23So you think that your husband is telling everyone that you killed the kids?
16:26I can't even get into the interview because she's spending so much time talking about how she's being done wrong
16:32by her common-law husband.
16:34She was the epitome of deflection.
16:36Why do we keep talking about Richard Ramirez when we're talking about the death of the children?
16:41I know that parents that have suffered a loss like this can have different experiences and can have different reactions.
16:48He can manipulate all these women, baby this, baby that.
16:51At this point, I don't even think I could get her to stop talking to me if I wanted to.
16:55I'm just going to continue to give her a rope and see what happens.
17:07Today, the children passed.
17:10Cynthia had told us the kids had been playing and locked themselves in the car.
17:19I wanted to believe her that it was an accident.
17:22But I started to have my suspicions then.
17:26Because Richard was crying, you could tell that he was truly grieving.
17:34But Cynthia started acting calmer, more relaxed, not like someone who had just lost her children.
17:44My family really wanted to just confront her and just get the truth out of her.
17:49We got to arguing.
17:51I mean, that's what happened.
17:52We got to arguing.
17:53The next day, she left with her family.
17:56I stayed with my family.
17:58And that's when I just started rethinking everything from the beginning.
18:02About the truth of what actually happened that day.
18:11In the interview, Cynthia Randolph doesn't really want to talk about the kids or so much to death.
18:18She starts talking about an ex-boyfriend.
18:21And just when I think things are strange, they become even stranger.
18:31So, you've concluded that Richard is saying that you killed the kids.
18:35Why does he think that?
18:36Because he had found that I was talking to that other guy.
18:39But I cut it off before this incident happened with the kids.
18:44It's the ultimate redirection.
18:46Let's play the woe is me card.
18:48Forget about the kids.
18:50Worry about me.
18:51And everyone's treating me like shit.
18:53So, I hold back a lot of this stuff and I don't confront her.
18:57Because I just want to see where her story's going.
19:00So, let's talk about this other guy.
19:02Okay.
19:02When does that relationship get back together?
19:05Back in 2015.
19:07It was just back and forth texting.
19:10And I'm assuming at some point this gets into more than talking.
19:12Yes.
19:13And when does that happen?
19:15December 9th, 2016.
19:20I asked her, you know, when was the first time she had sex with this other guy?
19:25And she hammers the date.
19:29Okay.
19:29So, December 2016, you have sex with him.
19:32Right.
19:33All right.
19:33And where's the kiddos then?
19:35They're with Richard's mother.
19:37All right.
19:37Let's talk about the last time that you see him.
19:40This is important.
19:42Right.
19:45Richard was out of town working.
19:47I can't remember the exact date, but I know he got out for lunch at 3.
19:51In the afternoon?
19:52At night.
19:53In the morning.
19:543 a.m.
19:54Yes.
19:55He works overnight.
19:56So, you can go have sex with him during lunch?
19:58No.
19:58We never had sex.
20:00Because I had the kids with me and they were asleep.
20:02But it never got that far in the court with him.
20:05She's been having sexual relations with this guy.
20:08And she took the opportunity to do this when her husband had left town to go to work.
20:15You know, hello, similarity in where we're at right now because the husband leaves town and goes to work.
20:19And all of a sudden, the kids are unattended and in their death occurs.
20:24What happens after that?
20:25I told him I couldn't do this anymore.
20:27I can't juggle him and Richard.
20:28And I cut him off.
20:30All it was was just sex and I couldn't do that anymore.
20:33What did you want?
20:34Marriage.
20:36I mean, there was a time and point we were almost engaged.
20:40So, when does Richard find out that you were screwing around on him?
20:46Maybe the 20th.
20:48It wasn't that far off.
20:50May 20th?
20:50So, about six days before the kids die, he finds out that you're screwing around on him.
21:00She's talking about what she's doing with this guy.
21:02I was doing my best to kind of pull her back in, trying to get her to talk about what
21:08happened with the kids.
21:09I think it takes us around three hours to get back into actually what occurred that day.
21:20So, let's talk about May 26th, okay?
21:25How's the day begin?
21:28Richard gets up earlier that day because he had an out-of-town move for four days.
21:34Initially, she tells me what she had told Ranger Bradford, that she dropped off her common-law husband at work.
21:42He was on a four-day road trip to Georgia.
21:44And she brought the two kids home.
21:47But then she goes into this crazy, detailed story about how hard she was working around the house and how
21:55great of a mother she was.
21:56I start cooking eggs and I cook hash browns for them, too.
22:00They ate.
22:01I took them to the living room.
22:03You know, at that time, they were into Moana, so they'd watch that.
22:06Okay, how long did I do that for?
22:08For about an hour, an hour and a half, because they fell asleep around 12.
22:14What were you doing while they were asleep?
22:17Washing, getting rid of clothes that I didn't need, and tidying up the house.
22:21Okay, so they both go down at noon.
22:23Right.
22:24And how long did I sleep for?
22:27Two o'clock.
22:29It wasn't that long.
22:30So, 2 p.m., the kids get up, and then what happens?
22:33I open that sunroom door so they can play.
22:36Okay, and then what do you do?
22:37I'm still cleaning.
22:39So you go back in the house.
22:41Like I said, I went back to separating clothes because we had so many clothes in there.
22:45She just, you know, lies about little things.
22:50She's doing the superhuman cleaning of the residence and doing laundry and everything else.
22:56But you can see from the pictures, the place was a pigsty.
23:01But all these lies are becoming overly apparent to me.
23:04I could pretty much read her by what's going on with her right hand with tension in the fist,
23:10and then the opening up and almost pushing things away that she doesn't want to talk about.
23:15After a while, I didn't hear them anymore.
23:19So I kind of glanced out into the sunroom, so they weren't in there.
23:22So I go to the kitchen.
23:24She wasn't in there.
23:26So that's when I'm yelling, Juliet, Juliet, Cavanaugh, yelling for them.
23:31And so I go running down to the playground we have.
23:36I barely make it halfway to the pond.
23:38And that's when I saw the car, and I went running towards it.
23:45And I saw Juliet slouched over in the driver's seat.
23:52I pulled on the door.
23:55It was locked.
23:57I went around, tried all the other doors.
24:00They didn't open.
24:02So that's when I grabbed the pole for the jack.
24:06And I went and broke the passenger side.
24:10And I opened it, grabbed her, put her on this side.
24:14And I went around to the back, grabbed him, put him on this side.
24:18And that's when I rushed him inside.
24:22Sorry.
24:23I'm just seeing their faces.
24:25Sorry.
24:26I grabbed the phone, the keys.
24:28They were there in the car.
24:30Sitting there and staring at her in the face.
24:33I mean, looking at her in the eyes.
24:36She's dramatic.
24:37She's impassioned.
24:39She's a really good liar.
24:41Because this theory that the two-year-old had taken the one-year-old outside
24:45and gotten in the car with the keys and the cell phone.
24:48This is bullshit.
24:49Let me throw a couple things out there.
24:51And I'm not saying this happened.
24:52Okay?
24:52You ran around the block so the kids would take a nap.
24:55And you pulled back and left them in the car.
24:58Or you forgot.
24:59It's not a crime to forget.
25:03Mothers get tired.
25:04You know, your husband's gone for four days.
25:06You didn't sleep much the night before.
25:08You got a bad back.
25:09I mean, there's 50 million things that's going on.
25:11I fell asleep.
25:13I fell asleep back there in the back.
25:17Okay.
25:18Tell me.
25:18What happened?
25:20I started dealing with the clothes.
25:22I was feeling tired.
25:24And I fell asleep.
25:26All right.
25:27How long were you asleep?
25:28I don't know.
25:29Did you go back there and smoke dope or anything?
25:31And let me tell you something.
25:33Does that matter?
25:33No.
25:34You're not back there shooting up heroin, right?
25:36Right.
25:36But I'm telling you.
25:37I fell asleep.
25:38Okay.
25:39You sure?
25:42You know what?
25:42You're right.
25:43I took a hit.
25:46Right before I fell asleep.
25:49Every single thing that happened that day,
25:51down to the time frame,
25:53down to what television shows the kids were watching,
25:56what the kids ate,
25:58how she cooked,
25:59how she cleaned,
26:00all this stuff that she spends all this time detailing,
26:03she says it's all bullshit.
26:04None of that happened.
26:07She went home.
26:08She took a hit of marijuana,
26:10and she falls asleep.
26:17Well, I'll tell you this.
26:18You're a good liar.
26:20So I started confronting her about what really happened in that time frame.
26:23I need to do this for my kids.
26:25I need to be honest.
26:27That's what I'm doing.
26:28Well, we've been here for probably a couple hours now,
26:30and probably those couple hours were completely wasted.
26:34What's that?
26:34Based on, let's say,
26:35based on some lies,
26:37some things that were just stupid to even lie about.
26:39I mean, you obviously lie a lot.
26:41All it's going to do is prolong things
26:43or make you look guilty.
26:45Right.
26:45So that's what I'm telling you.
26:46What else do you want to clear up real quick?
26:58Do kids die in hot cars on hot days as an accident?
27:02Yes.
27:03Are the majority of these cases accidents?
27:07Yeah.
27:08It's sad.
27:08It's tragic.
27:09But it happens.
27:12The question is,
27:13is it an accident or is it intentional?
27:16And if it's intentional,
27:17this is much, much worse.
27:20I need to know,
27:21what is Cynthia Randolph's intent?
27:30But I'm telling you right now,
27:32based on some of the things I'm seeing
27:35and some of the things that you're saying,
27:38you're leaving something out.
27:40Does she have motive to commit murder?
27:42Yeah, absolutely.
27:43She's already stated that she wants to go live with her boyfriend.
27:46We know the kids are going to be a hang-up.
27:49She goes back and forth,
27:51sprinkling some truths,
27:52but there's more to it.
27:55It's much better for you, to be honest.
27:57Right.
27:57Don't you see that it's much better?
27:59Right, right.
27:59And I'm telling you,
28:00I took a hit before I fell asleep.
28:03That's why the blunt wretch was in the master room.
28:07Unless this is just straight premeditated murder, which...
28:10I wouldn't have.
28:11Those were my babies.
28:14So how we proceed from here is kind of up to you,
28:16but my thought process is,
28:18number one, are you willing to take a polygraph test?
28:20Yes, sir.
28:21Okay.
28:22What makes this case difficult
28:26is Cynthia's persona.
28:29She's intelligent.
28:31She's not going to want to come off of these lies
28:34unless tangible information is put in front of her.
28:37That's why I started thinking about polygraph.
28:40For the polygraph,
28:41what I'm thinking is not next week,
28:43but like the following Monday or Tuesday,
28:45because it gives you an opportunity
28:48to completely clear your mind.
28:51At the end of the interview,
28:53I'd had my fill.
28:54I was ready to get the hell out of that room.
28:56It was frustrating.
28:57You wanted to beat your head against the wall.
29:01But I felt like there was more to come.
29:05When Jim let her go,
29:07I remember I even asked him,
29:09I said,
29:09hey, I called you in,
29:11so I'm not questioning nothing.
29:12But I said,
29:12you sure you shouldn't have ran at her
29:14a little bit harder about the lies and everything?
29:16And he was just like,
29:17no, it's not time yet.
29:19She thinks she's smarter than we are.
29:22She'll come back and talk to us
29:23as many times as we want her to,
29:25as long as we don't make her mad.
29:29By this time,
29:30I've heard 10 different stories from her.
29:32So I'm just like,
29:33so what happened?
29:35You know,
29:36the law enforcement wants the truth
29:37for their investigation.
29:38I wanted the truth for my sanity,
29:40my sake.
29:42I wanted to know
29:45how my kids passed away.
29:51So two days after the first interview,
29:54surprise, surprise,
29:55Cynthia reaches out.
29:58She wants to go over some things.
30:01Because what tends to happen
30:03is when you are going to polygraph someone
30:05and you give them a heads up,
30:07if they'd lied in their initial statement,
30:10they start reaching out
30:12and they start telling you reasons
30:14that they're going to fail to polygraph.
30:17Cynthia Randolph has that playbook.
30:20So she is just sending me
30:23text after text.
30:25And she is having issues
30:28with her statement.
30:29She wants information from me
30:31so she can help fill in the blanks.
30:44So about a week and a half
30:46after I interview Cynthia the first time,
30:49I bring her back in.
30:58and the purpose is really a purge.
31:03It's to reduce her anxiety and stress
31:08because she's really worried
31:10about this polygraph.
31:11And I want it to be a clean polygraph.
31:22But we go back in there
31:23in the second interview
31:25and it just starts with the bizarreness.
31:28So what are you thinking now?
31:29Are you serious about the military or something?
31:31Or I guess your life's kind of opened up?
31:33Border patrol.
31:35Since I'm bilingual.
31:37Plus, you know,
31:37it's best just to get up
31:40and move on
31:41and do something productive.
31:45It's been less than a month
31:46since her children died.
31:48And the bizarreness is really
31:50Cynthia telling me
31:53how her children's death
31:55has opened up
31:56so many opportunities.
31:58You know, the more and more
31:59I think about it,
32:00there's a reason why this happened.
32:02Maybe I grew up too early.
32:03Yeah.
32:04And I...
32:04But you're young, you know.
32:06You see, my dad was in the military.
32:08My mom was
32:10wanting to be in the military.
32:11It was just she had me
32:12and she couldn't go.
32:13You know, her mother
32:14was handcuffed at a young age
32:16because she had Cynthia.
32:19But now Cynthia was free
32:20to do whatever she wanted to do.
32:24I mean, how would you begin
32:26to discuss the craziness
32:31of what she's saying?
32:34Well, I don't want to keep you
32:35too long today.
32:36Let's go through the statement
32:37real quick.
32:40Are you positive
32:41that the children died in the car?
32:44Yes.
32:45Without a doubt.
32:46Without a doubt.
32:48So your statement is basically
32:50what the polygraph's gonna be off of.
32:53And, I mean, if the statement's correct,
32:55then there's no issues.
32:56So we leave the second interview
32:58and everything's set up
33:01for the polygraph in four days.
33:03Am I worried that
33:05she's gonna take off
33:06or disappear?
33:08No.
33:09I think at the end of the day,
33:10she really believes
33:11that she can manipulate
33:13this entire thing
33:14to her benefit.
33:17I know that Cynthia
33:18was asked to take a polygraph.
33:22Cynthia is a great liar.
33:24She can look you straight in the face
33:27and she can tell you
33:28whatever you want to hear.
33:32And it's terrifying
33:34to know that
33:36about someone
33:37that is in your family.
33:41I don't believe Cynthia
33:42ever mentioned anything
33:43about the polygraph test.
33:45But I was all for it.
33:46I just wanted the truth.
33:55On the day of the polygraph,
33:57she takes the test
33:58and a short time later,
34:01I go back in
34:02and I begin to visit with her.
34:05Come on in.
34:07Hey, before we start again,
34:08you know that you're free to leave,
34:10you're not under arrest
34:11and all that good stuff, right?
34:12Okay, cool.
34:15There's three people involved, right?
34:17There's the polygrapher.
34:20There's me.
34:21And there's Cynthia.
34:23What does she think
34:24is going to happen
34:26with this polygraph?
34:36It's been a month
34:37since her children died.
34:39Cynthia Randolph
34:39agrees to take a polygraph.
34:46Okay.
34:48Why do you think
34:49you did it on the test?
34:52I feel that the time frames
34:57that's what's complicated.
34:58I felt like I didn't pass that part.
35:01Okay.
35:01Just because of
35:02I'm thinking of times
35:03and I wish I knew exact time.
35:05Okay, okay.
35:06You failed the test here today.
35:08I did.
35:09You failed the test here today.
35:11And Cynthia,
35:12there's no doubt
35:12in this investigation,
35:13you failed this test
35:15as much as someone can fail it.
35:19During the polygraph,
35:21Cynthia Randolph states
35:22that, you know,
35:23she didn't murder the children,
35:25one.
35:25It wasn't an intentional act,
35:27two.
35:28And that after she got home,
35:30she did not put the children
35:32back in the car.
35:34She takes the test.
35:35She's asked those questions.
35:37And she fails.
35:39You know,
35:39deception is indicated.
35:41If you don't complain
35:42and tell us the truth,
35:44it is not good
35:45because then we start looking
35:46at this thing as intentional
35:47and that's what
35:48the district attorney
35:48is going to think.
35:49Because what you're saying
35:51is not plausible
35:52and it's backed up
35:53by the polygraph.
35:54During the first two
35:55interviews,
35:55we didn't have anything
35:56concrete to confront Cynthia.
35:58So I took a softer,
36:00more low-key approach.
36:01But after she bombed
36:03the polygraph,
36:03it's time to go at her.
36:05The gloves are off.
36:06You placed those children
36:07back in the car
36:08after you returned home
36:09from dropping off, Richard.
36:10Every time I asked you
36:12that question on the test,
36:14you knocked it out of the park
36:15as far as failing, okay?
36:16Every single,
36:17consistently time, okay?
36:20That leads me to believe
36:21I'm nervous.
36:23It has nothing to do
36:24with nerves.
36:25I know, but it's...
36:26Being nervous has nothing
36:27to do with passing
36:28or failing a polygraph, okay?
36:29I took them kids
36:30out of the car.
36:31I know you did,
36:31but you also put them in there.
36:33No, sir.
36:34Yes, you did.
36:34No, I didn't.
36:35She knows at the end
36:36of the day
36:37that she's screwed on this
36:38because she's done something wrong
36:39and she hasn't walked away
36:41from it.
36:41She is worried
36:42about what's going to happen
36:43and she's trying
36:44to mitigate those damages.
36:45Convince me
36:46that this was an accident.
36:47Tell me the truth.
36:52I woke up.
36:55I looked through the sunroom.
36:56They weren't there.
36:59I looked through the house.
37:00They weren't there.
37:03I don't know
37:04where else they could have been
37:05when I found Juliet
37:06sitting in the front seat.
37:08Were the car doors shut?
37:10Yes, sir.
37:11And were they locked
37:12or unlocked?
37:12They were locked.
37:13You're lying.
37:14I remember.
37:15You're not telling the truth.
37:15We're past that.
37:16We're past that.
37:17It's done.
37:18When did you put them
37:18in the car?
37:20Juliet got in there.
37:22She opened it.
37:23I've seen her open doors.
37:25I've seen her put
37:26both of her feet on the wall.
37:27Then fine.
37:28Then she got in the car,
37:29all right,
37:30and you caught them
37:30out there playing
37:31and then you shut the door
37:32to show them a lesson.
37:34No, sir.
37:35Did you leave them in the car
37:36while you went inside
37:38for a little while?
37:40Did you put them out there,
37:41let them in there
37:41so you could get
37:42some time to yourself?
37:44I didn't.
37:50Take that extra step, Cynthia.
37:53There's a black cloud
37:54over your head.
37:57We're moving
37:58in the right direction.
37:59We're getting so close
38:00to the truth.
38:01The question is,
38:02are we going to get there?
38:05I mean, I've seen them
38:06both climbing
38:07through the same doors.
38:10I saw them.
38:12I can see Juliet playing
38:14like she's driving.
38:17I see Kavanaugh
38:18in the middle console
38:19heading to the back
38:21because all the toys
38:22are back there.
38:23And what'd you do?
38:26You shut those doors,
38:27didn't you?
38:34I remember the kids
38:37getting in the car
38:38and I shut the door
38:40and I said,
38:40Juliet,
38:41I told her,
38:43stop your shit.
38:44Get out.
38:45Come on.
38:46I opened the door
38:47and I said,
38:48all right,
38:48and I shut the door.
38:50And I went back inside.
38:53I smoked some weed
38:54and I fell asleep.
38:57When I woke up,
38:59I was like,
39:01they didn't get out the car
39:03because I don't hear them.
39:06It took us a long time.
39:08It took us,
39:08you know,
39:1015 hours almost
39:11in various interviews.
39:13At the end of the day,
39:15she was brought down
39:16by her own words.
39:18I remember I was
39:18just standing there
39:19just like,
39:20oh, God.
39:23I left them in the car
39:24and I shut the door.
39:26I should have brought them in
39:27and not try to teach
39:28Juliet a lesson.
39:29The intent in this
39:31is specifically
39:32what she said.
39:33She intentionally
39:34shut the door
39:35to teach them a lesson.
39:37And to make it look
39:38like an accident,
39:39did you break that window?
39:41I opened the passenger door
39:44and she was hot to the touch
39:46and I shut it
39:46and I panicked
39:48and that's when I
39:50broke the window.
39:53I just stood there
39:55like, what did I do?
39:56What have I done?
39:59We got to
40:00a large chunk
40:02of the truth.
40:04Is there motive?
40:06Hell yeah!
40:07She says the motive.
40:09She's in love
40:10with another man.
40:12She's obviously not
40:13mother of the year
40:15and she wants
40:16out of the house.
40:17What's the problem?
40:18Kids, right?
40:22We charged Ms. Randolph
40:24with injury to a child
40:25causing serious bodily injury
40:26or death
40:27because it carries
40:28the same punishment range
40:29as murder
40:30but has less elements
40:31of proof.
40:33Everything went the way
40:34that we wanted it to go
40:35during the trial.
40:36The jury convicted her
40:38and eventually sentenced her
40:39to the maximum sentence
40:40which was 20 years
40:41in prison.
40:4420 years is a long time
40:45but then you think about
40:46like, what did she do?
40:47Well, the kids aren't here anymore.
40:50So,
40:51it didn't seem like
40:52very long at all.
40:54Juliet and Kavanaugh,
40:56those were two
40:56innocent children
40:58that counted on her
41:00for security,
41:02for safety
41:03and she let them down.
41:06She put her selfish needs first
41:08and what she wanted first.
41:13What was lost that day?
41:17A one-year-old
41:18and two-year-old child's life.
41:23Who would they have become?
41:27The travesty is
41:28we're never going to know.
41:29because their lives
41:31were needlessly taken from them.
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