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00:04Start the clock.
00:38Thank you very much, people.
00:40How are you?
00:43Okay.
00:47Thank you, real-time regulars.
00:49I appreciate it.
00:53You sound like a great crowd.
00:59And I know why you're happy.
01:03Great news.
01:04Peace at last.
01:05We have an agreement, a deal, a peace deal.
01:08Not the Iran war.
01:09Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
01:12That's who I'm talking about.
01:14Oh.
01:17Man, were you reading about this?
01:19For like a year went on.
01:21All this arguing ensuing.
01:22And then it turns out, no settlement money at all.
01:25Just over a movie called It Ends With Us that everybody hated.
01:30Did you see that movie?
01:32It was harder to get through than the Strait of Hormuz.
01:41Oh, yes.
01:42Okay.
01:43Well, the war.
01:43Okay.
01:44So we are officially ended with Operation Epic Fury.
01:47And now we have moved on to Project Freedom, which is also over.
01:53Really?
01:54No, I'm not kidding.
01:56That was Project Freedom.
02:00That was our attempt to escort the ships through the Strait of Hormuz, where there are now 1,800
02:05ships stuck.
02:06Last person who needed this many escorts was Hunter Biden.
02:17So, but Iran, yeah, they are blocking the Strait, and they say they're going to collect tolls now of all
02:23the ships, and Trump is furious.
02:26Furious that he didn't think of it first.
02:30So it's a game of chicken, and Trump said he wants the Iranians to know America does not blink.
02:39Lose interest and wander away?
02:41Yes, we do that all the time, but we don't do it.
02:44But we kind of have to.
02:48We kind of have to, because we've apparently used up all our missiles.
02:53Yeah, they found, not all, but our stockpile is greatly depleted at, this is so ridiculous.
02:59America, the most strapped country in the world, ran out of bombs.
03:05It's like Diddy running out of baby oil.
03:06I mean, and, oh, but let's not be gloomy, it's Mother's Day on Sunday.
03:18Do you have mothers?
03:20I had one, it's very common.
03:23And, of course, there's a baby boom over at the White House.
03:26You know this, in the administration, a lot of people having babies over there.
03:29And for the press spokesman, you've seen her, Carolyn Levitt.
03:32Yes, she just, what timing, she just had a baby.
03:34They asked her, you know, are you excited to be a mom again?
03:37And she said, what a stupid question, do your research.
03:41Of course I'm excited to be a mom.
03:46Now listen, if you are old enough to be watching this show,
03:52you were born when your mother could have an abortion.
03:55She had the right to have an abortion.
03:57And that is not the case anymore, really, in a lot of this country.
04:00So maybe when you write a card this year, say, thanks, Mom,
04:03you could have killed me and you didn't.
04:09Oh, and speaking of killing,
04:15apparently they found Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note.
04:21Apparently it was from the guy, his cellmate,
04:23who Epstein says tried to kill him.
04:25But he's the guy who found the note.
04:28And it says, they investigated me.
04:30And then in all caps, it says, found nothing.
04:33Three explanation points.
04:35What does that sound like?
04:38I can't quite place it.
04:40I, uh, no.
04:43No, I'm not suspicious.
04:45I'm not suspicious, but the note does end by saying,
04:48thank you for your attention to this matter.
04:51I, I...
04:57Okay.
04:59Good news for Gen Z.
05:01Uh, we may be wearing masks again.
05:05Uh...
05:06Well, because you heard about the cruise ship?
05:08There's a cruise ship out there that has Hantavirus.
05:11Ooh, probably this is nasty.
05:12Three people have died.
05:13Hantavirus.
05:14And, uh, the first report said there was, uh,
05:16a flight attendant who got it from the passengers.
05:20Boy, suddenly spirit doesn't sound that bad, does it?
05:23I...
05:24But, no.
05:30But, no.
05:31The flight attendant tested negative,
05:33which is good news, because it would be ironic
05:35if the flight attendant, uh, had Hantavirus
05:37and the cure was peanuts.
05:39All right.
05:40Uh, we've got a great show.
05:41Representative Dan Crenshaw and Donna Brasile.
05:44Senator Ziller here, but first up,
05:45he is a Democratic senator from Pennsylvania,
05:48and he is my friend, Senator John Fetterman,
05:51is over here.
05:53John?
05:56Bill, how are you?
05:58Good to see you again.
05:59All right, Bill.
06:02All right.
06:03All right.
06:05John, you're wearing your good black.
06:07Did you have a...
06:08Yeah, yeah.
06:09Did you have a speech on the Senate?
06:10I mixed it up to, you know...
06:11Did you have a speech on the Senate floor or something
06:14where you had to look your...
06:15your best?
06:16No, I...
06:17I...
06:18I...
06:18I like your outfit.
06:20I do.
06:21I...
06:22Uh, so...
06:23I read your, uh, op-ed today,
06:26I think it was,
06:26in the Washington Post.
06:27Um, and it's interesting
06:29because we often find ourselves
06:31sort of in the same place,
06:33politically, I think.
06:34Exactly, yeah.
06:35Where, when your values haven't changed,
06:38but the party really has changed
06:40and it's kind of put you at odds, and...
06:42Yeah, you, you use the term
06:44increasingly lonely.
06:45You said you feel increasingly lonely
06:47as a Democrat.
06:48Do you want to unburden yourself
06:50and tell us about that?
06:52Yeah, well, I mean,
06:53some people think it's, like,
06:54a glamorous life,
06:55and it is not,
06:56at least, uh, for me.
06:58You know, we have, uh...
06:59Plainly.
07:00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:02Well, we...
07:03No, I mean, uh...
07:05I mean, from a lonely perspective,
07:08uh, you know,
07:09things that used to be part
07:10of our values here as a party,
07:12uh, that they're only shifted,
07:14you know, whether it's, like,
07:15specifically Israel
07:16and the Jewish community
07:17and now also the border security
07:21and then also recently
07:22the two longest shutdowns in history,
07:26and I've, you know,
07:28had to vote against the caucus.
07:30I don't...
07:31I don't enjoy that,
07:32but we used to be the party
07:33that would always refuse
07:34to shut the government down,
07:36and now we now have shut it down
07:38and dropped a lot of mass chaos,
07:40and I just couldn't be a part of that.
07:43Yeah, I think we get the same, uh,
07:45charged, levied against us
07:47that we're picking fights with the left.
07:49We're not picking fights.
07:51We're just not avoiding them.
07:53I mean, you used the term
07:55an orgy of socialism recently.
07:56You said that what you see...
07:58Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:58...it's what you see
07:59in the Democratic Party.
08:00I do, too.
08:02Yeah, well, I mean,
08:03you have whether it's, like,
08:04the mayor in Seattle.
08:06I mean, she's absolutely a socialist.
08:08Uh, in New York,
08:10and a lot of these candidates
08:12across the country,
08:13and that's really moving towards that,
08:16and people that are proud
08:17to be labeled as a socialist.
08:19That used to be, like,
08:20was a smear
08:21when I was running my first cycle,
08:23and now that's becoming more normalized,
08:26and now I think
08:27that's a very dangerous,
08:28slippery slope for us to be,
08:29and now I've spoke to people
08:32that had to live under socialism
08:33and or communism,
08:35and they are, like,
08:37they are morons
08:38if they think that socialism
08:39is the answer.
08:40You know, I've lived under that,
08:42and thank God we are now...
08:43Well, we already have
08:45a great deal of socialism,
08:46and I've made the point
08:47a million times on the show,
08:49as we should.
08:49All Western democracies
08:51are quasi-socialist.
08:53There are certain things
08:54that the government should do.
08:56You don't want the private enterprise
08:57to be controlling the Marine Corps,
09:00and, you know,
09:00Social Security
09:01and Medicare, Medicaid.
09:03Obviously, these things,
09:04we have socialism.
09:06They're just proposing something
09:07way more than that,
09:09and by the way,
09:09you said socialism,
09:11dirty word?
09:12I mean, yes and no.
09:13What really was a dirty word,
09:15which isn't anymore,
09:16is communism.
09:17Yeah.
09:18I mean, this woman in New York
09:19who is Mayor Mondami's
09:22right-hand woman,
09:23she tweets out,
09:25elect more communists.
09:27This guy, Graham Plattner?
09:30Yeah.
09:31Yeah, it's not a slur
09:33if I refer to him
09:35as a communist.
09:36That's his own term
09:37that he used for himself.
09:38Yes.
09:39Antifa
09:39and these other kinds
09:41of extreme things.
09:42Now, that's his own words.
09:43That's not my view,
09:45and I'm not using that
09:46as a slur.
09:49But the idea
09:50that communist
09:51is not a dirty word,
09:52I think we need
09:53to pause here
09:53and say,
09:54okay,
09:54this is a watermark.
09:56This is a watershed mark,
09:58a moment in American history
10:00where we should pay attention.
10:02And my guess is,
10:03because AI
10:05is going to be
10:06taking everybody's jobs,
10:08communism is only
10:09going to get more popular.
10:11Well, I sure hope not,
10:13because, you know,
10:14like,
10:15if our party,
10:16it's like that,
10:17it's that expression,
10:18you know,
10:19bad ideas refuse to die,
10:21and now that's coming back.
10:22And a lot of this,
10:23the Trump and the backlash
10:25is making more and more
10:26things possible
10:27in the Democratic Party,
10:29and I'm consistently
10:30going to resist
10:31those kinds of extremes
10:32and those extremes
10:33that cost us in 2024.
10:35We all have to remember
10:37that we need to have
10:38an election
10:39against both sides.
10:40We're accountable
10:41for both sides
10:42in these kinds of states
10:45that really depend
10:46to deliver
10:48for the presidency.
10:49And that's why
10:50I refuse to be
10:51and engage.
10:53I know how to pay the bills
10:55as a Democrat right now,
10:56and my colleagues
10:58and people that are running,
10:59whether for the Senate
11:01or the House,
11:01they are literally
11:02running on fuck Trump.
11:04I mean,
11:04that's literally,
11:05they have campaign commercials,
11:08that,
11:09and it's absurd.
11:11And we are getting
11:12to that point,
11:13and I refuse to engage
11:14in that extreme,
11:16those terms.
11:17We have to find
11:18a better way forward,
11:19and now I've been punished
11:21to try to find value
11:23in certain views.
11:25Now, like Philip Bullroom,
11:27you know,
11:27we've talked about that.
11:28I don't care about
11:28the ballroom.
11:29I don't either.
11:29Yeah, I mean,
11:30it's like...
11:30It's so stupid.
11:31It's such a rorschach test
11:33of whether you just hate.
11:35Yeah.
11:35Because, first of all,
11:36like we saw
11:37with the assassination attempt
11:39a couple of weeks ago,
11:41America probably does need...
11:43You know what the problem is?
11:44I said it to you
11:45today on the podcast,
11:46which I think
11:46is on next week.
11:48It's the word,
11:49ballroom.
11:50It sounds...
11:51Ballroom.
11:52Sounds like, you know,
11:53fops are pirouetting around.
11:54And if they called it
11:57the state dinner
11:58national center,
11:59it would be different.
12:00But this is America.
12:02And we don't want people
12:03sitting in tents
12:04to have dinner.
12:05I mean, it's just...
12:06Exactly.
12:07It's just...
12:07I mean, you know,
12:08I was two tables away
12:11at the White House
12:12correspondent's dinner.
12:13I've witnessed this.
12:14Two tables from the killing?
12:16Yeah.
12:16From the attempt,
12:17you mean?
12:18Yeah, and that's...
12:20I had to see
12:22that I'm like
12:22the entire line of succession
12:23was right there
12:24and realized
12:25that we've put...
12:26There's real danger there.
12:27We got really lucky there
12:28for a lot of reasons.
12:29So now we need
12:30to have a more secure...
12:32more secure
12:33to do these kinds of events.
12:35But I don't care about...
12:36You know, like,
12:37just build it.
12:37I mean,
12:38he won't even be president
12:39if it's even finished.
12:41Yeah.
12:41I mean,
12:42concentrate on the big things,
12:43the things that really matter.
12:45Exactly.
12:45That's what I keep
12:45trying to say here.
12:47So there's no truth, right,
12:49that you're actually
12:50going to switch parties
12:51because I know
12:51Trump has offered you.
12:53I mean, you said
12:53I would be a shitty Republican.
12:56Yeah, well, yeah.
12:57That's, you know...
12:58And, you know,
12:59if I ever decide to change
13:01and I won't,
13:02I'll be, you know,
13:03have me on
13:04and I will announce that.
13:05But it's not gonna...
13:07It's like, you know,
13:08I'm a committed Democrat
13:09even though
13:10if I vote 93% of the time...
13:14With the Democrats.
13:14Yeah.
13:14I thought we were supposed
13:15to be a big tent party.
13:18So that's...
13:18I'm not really sure
13:19how I become an issue
13:21for any of the Democrats
13:22just to having
13:23some different views
13:24in these other issues.
13:25No, you said you're...
13:30You said before,
13:31you're pro-choice,
13:33you're pro-weed,
13:34you're pro-gay rights,
13:35you're pro-labor.
13:36Yeah.
13:37You also throw in there
13:38I'm pro-ribeye
13:39and not bio-slop.
13:40I don't know why
13:41that has to go in there.
13:43That sounds like
13:44a great Republican to me,
13:46but...
13:46Yeah, what is your thing
13:48with...
13:49Look, and by the way,
13:50I don't eat fake meat either.
13:52I mean, my friends at PETA
13:53would love it if I did,
13:54but look, I mean,
13:56the science is the science.
13:57I don't think that stuff
13:58is really better for you
13:59than organic real meat.
14:01I mean, certainly not better
14:01for the animal
14:02that getting killed.
14:04But as far as the science goes,
14:06but you actually want to bend.
14:08That doesn't seem...
14:09Yeah, I just think...
14:11I mean, as I'm a member
14:12of the Agriculture Committee
14:14and I really stand
14:15with our farmers now.
14:17And now, of course,
14:18we don't want, like,
14:19the factory farm situation
14:21absolutely opposed
14:22to animal cruelty.
14:24But for me,
14:25if I lived on Mars,
14:26yeah, you know,
14:28those kinds of...
14:29That kind of...
14:31What's the lab meat
14:33would be a great opportunity.
14:34But for me, right now,
14:35like, it's...
14:37But you want to ban it?
14:38I mean, shouldn't people
14:39have the right to eat it?
14:40It's like, actively,
14:42I mean, if people have a chance
14:46to...
14:46But overall, for me,
14:49I think, you know,
14:51someone that's really...
14:52I mean, we are just...
14:53I thought, you know,
14:55the really highly,
14:57highly processed food,
14:59I mean, that's exactly
15:00the essence of that.
15:01Yeah, but there's a lot worse
15:03highly processed food.
15:04I mean, I could go
15:05into the supermarket
15:05and pick up...
15:06Well, we don't want
15:07to ban all of that.
15:08People have the right
15:08to eat what they want,
15:10don't they?
15:10I mean, don't tell
15:11the population of America
15:12that they can't eat
15:13what they want.
15:14Well, I mean, it's...
15:15You think they're up in arms
15:16about shit now?
15:16You'll really have a riot
15:18on your hands.
15:19Well, I mean, overall,
15:20it's not a top priority for me,
15:22given everything else
15:23that's happening right now.
15:25So overall, as someone
15:27that is a committed Democrat,
15:28I find myself isolated
15:30by my party.
15:30As things continue,
15:32I'm going to just have...
15:34play, you know,
15:35balls, strikes, and just...
15:37Yeah, okay.
15:38Well, you know I'm your fan
15:40because the Democratic Party
15:42certainly needs someone
15:43to keep them honest,
15:44and it's the man in the shorts.
15:46Thank you, John.
15:48I appreciate it.
15:50All right, John Fetterman,
15:51he's going to towel over me now.
15:53All right, let's meet our panel.
15:55Thank you, John.
16:01Hello.
16:02Hello, brother.
16:03How are you?
16:04All right, he is a Republican
16:05congressman for a couple more months
16:07from Texas, author of
16:08the best-selling book,
16:09Fortitude, and host of the podcast
16:10Hold These Truths with Dan Crenshaw,
16:12Representative Dan Crenshaw.
16:16And she's a veteran
16:18political strategist,
16:19ABC News,
16:20and former DNC chair,
16:22Donna Brazile is over here.
16:25How are you?
16:27All right.
16:30Okay.
16:31So, the midterm elections
16:33are about six months away,
16:34and it usually happens
16:36the party out of power
16:38does well in the midterm elections,
16:40and the party in power right now
16:41is historically unpopular,
16:44mostly because of what I call
16:45the three I's.
16:46That would be ICE,
16:47Iran, and inflation.
16:49And it would...
16:50It seemed only a few weeks ago,
16:52maybe months ago,
16:53that it would be impossible
16:54for the Democrats
16:55to lose this election.
16:57No way.
16:58Well, headline today,
16:59way.
17:01There is a way.
17:03And it's because of what they do.
17:05When they don't win,
17:05they cheat.
17:06I mean...
17:07So, this is the big story today,
17:09gerrymandering.
17:10This has gone nuclear,
17:11and Republicans are winning
17:13the gerrymander war.
17:14We talked about it last week,
17:16but a lot has changed since then.
17:18As you know,
17:18it started with Texas,
17:20your state.
17:20Trump said,
17:21gerrymander Texas.
17:22Okay.
17:23So, they got, like,
17:23four or five new seats in Texas.
17:26California responded and said,
17:27okay, we're going to do the same thing.
17:29All right, so now we're...
17:30This is a terrible road to go down,
17:31but at least we're even.
17:33Okay.
17:33Now, the Supreme Court ruled last week
17:35on the Voting Rights Act.
17:37Everything is different now.
17:38Eight states have new maps now,
17:40and five more are planning to.
17:42Texas, Florida, Ohio, Missouri,
17:45North Carolina.
17:45They're all now more Republican,
17:47these states that had districts
17:49that minorities were electing candidates from.
17:54Virginia did it on the Democratic side,
17:56and the Supreme Court in the state
17:58said they can't.
18:00So, that's a big loss for the Democrats.
18:02They're not going to get that
18:03to even the score.
18:04And Tennessee now.
18:06Show the map of the Tennessee.
18:08This is really what's going on here.
18:09Look at this.
18:10They've taken Memphis,
18:11a majority black city,
18:13and they moved it into three different districts
18:16to dilute the vote.
18:18Now, I'm going to turn this over
18:19to the former chair of the DNC
18:21for your commentary,
18:22because I'm sure you have a lot to say.
18:25Well, first of all,
18:26it's always a great honor
18:27to be back here in California with Bill,
18:29and congratulations on the Mark Twain Award.
18:31Oh, thank you.
18:32Oh, I appreciate it.
18:35I mean, you know, Bill,
18:37I can't keep up with you, baby.
18:39Every time I...
18:42I go for months,
18:43congressman, without seeing this man,
18:45and he makes all kinds of trouble.
18:47I have to come back in
18:48and clean up your shit.
18:49I mean...
18:50He begs.
18:51He begs.
18:54Talk about a desperate housewife.
18:58Come on, baby.
18:59Clean your own stuff up.
19:00But let me just say this, Bill.
19:02Let me just say this.
19:04The rumors that the Democratic Party is dead,
19:07those rumors are as old as Methusen.
19:10We have about 179 days.
19:12It's going to be a tough election,
19:14no question about it.
19:15But you know what?
19:15We have a small tailwind.
19:18No, I do not like what's going on with redistricting.
19:21You know why, Bill?
19:22I come from one of those states
19:23that all of a sudden,
19:26the Supreme Court said,
19:28well, we don't like partisan gerrymandering.
19:31No, we don't like racial gerrymandering.
19:32So one out of three voters in Louisiana
19:35is a black voter.
19:37One out of three.
19:37And they're now thinking of eradicating.
19:40So that's as if people from some parts of Louisiana
19:44can represent New Orleans
19:46better than the folks who are representing
19:48or Baton Rouge.
19:49It's wrong, it's immoral, and it's unjustified.
19:52Bill, let me just say this.
19:59And I saw what the congressman tweeted today
20:02after Tim Kaine.
20:04But here's it.
20:05I'm old enough to run this.
20:06Well, what do you tweet?
20:07I don't know.
20:08Well, he's going to have...
20:09Tim Kaine is wrong.
20:10Well, he's wrong.
20:12No, he's not usually.
20:14He's saying, well, the Constitution is...
20:17They made it based on Constitution.
20:19They made it based on...
20:20They said, well, the voters were already voting
20:22when the state put this law into place
20:25so that the voters can decide.
20:26The voters decided in, as you well know,
20:29California and the voters decided in Virginia.
20:33Politicians should not choose their voters.
20:35But I have one broad question.
20:36Well, they've done it forever.
20:37What?
20:38We've never...
20:39Don't I know that, Bill?
20:41The Constitution, 1787.
20:43Wait a minute.
20:44Well, what Tim Kaine said?
20:471787.
20:47I'm going to give you another Tim Kaine more.
20:501787, the Constitution.
20:51When did my family get the right to vote, Bill?
20:541965.
20:5561 years ago.
20:57So my daddy served in war
20:58and could not vote for that.
21:00My grandparent...
21:01My grandmother was 77
21:02when she got the right to vote.
21:04Yeah, I'm on your side.
21:05Don't yell at me.
21:05So we understand...
21:06Are you on my side?
21:07Yeah, of course.
21:07I didn't know.
21:08If you're on the side of the Constitution,
21:10you're on the side of democracy.
21:12So, Congressman,
21:13I will let you describe
21:14why you went into Tim Kaine's ass today.
21:21He tried to put his entire size 11
21:24in the man's ass.
21:26Phrasing, you know, phrasing.
21:27I don't...
21:28You know, at least he's the last ass
21:29I would go into.
21:32Okay.
21:33But, uh...
21:34You know, Kaine...
21:35Kaine was...
21:36He was making the case
21:38that the Supreme Court
21:38doesn't know what it's talking about
21:39and that they're misreading it.
21:41I pointed out
21:42that he should...
21:43I know reading is time-consuming,
21:45but you might read
21:46the actual case
21:48that the Supreme Court wrote.
21:49It's very well-written.
21:50It's very logically written.
21:51It's pretty irrefutable.
21:52I mean, it was a 10-to-1 vote.
21:54They're making the case
21:55that simply the Constitutional Amendment
21:57was in itself unconstitutional
22:00because of the process they followed.
22:01That's what the Supreme Court argued.
22:03It was not about the ability
22:04to politically gerrymander.
22:06Let's start with, like,
22:07one principle
22:07just taking a step back here.
22:08Your states can do political redistricting.
22:13That's how our federal Constitution
22:15is written.
22:16If we'd like a better system
22:18and we're smarter than the founders,
22:20then we can figure out
22:21a better way to do that,
22:22but it's inherently political.
22:23Every state has a different way
22:24of doing it.
22:25Some have independent commissions
22:26or bipartisan commissions.
22:28Even those are chosen
22:29in a political way,
22:31a political process.
22:31It will always be political,
22:32so just get used to it.
22:33But second,
22:34one more thing to point out.
22:36To say we're winning,
22:38Republicans are winning
22:39the redistricting war,
22:40I think we're catching up.
22:41And if I can point to the facts
22:43on, look, let's go to Illinois.
22:44You've got a 14-to-3 ratio.
22:46Washington, you've got a 10-to-2 ratio.
22:48New England has, like,
22:48a 21-to-0 ratio.
22:50California, out of 52 representatives,
22:54they're going to have
22:54maybe five, six Republicans.
22:56You know, in Texas,
22:57we redistricted.
22:58We're 30-to-10.
22:59Florida's now going to be 20-to-7.
23:01Like, Democrats have been
23:04winning this battle
23:05for a long time.
23:06I'm not sure about that.
23:08North Carolina.
23:0910-4.
23:1010 Republicans,
23:114 Democrats.
23:12Ohio, 10 Republicans,
23:145 Democrats.
23:15Texas, 25 Republicans,
23:1713, in a state
23:18that is majority or minority.
23:19Can I just show...
23:20Okay.
23:21Let me just show you.
23:22Why does skin color,
23:24like, automatically
23:25impose political beliefs?
23:27Because race has always
23:29been identified
23:30as a political consideration,
23:32not only as it relates
23:33to the Constitution
23:34of the United States,
23:35but also how it is
23:36implemented at the state level.
23:38That's why these districts
23:39were always drawn,
23:40so that they took race
23:42into consideration.
23:43So that's my point.
23:44Yes.
23:45But why?
23:46Why should the enlightened society
23:48believe that?
23:50Because of the history
23:51of the United States.
23:52Well, there's a history,
23:53but as we grow out
23:54of that history,
23:54which I hope we would have
23:55by now,
23:56an enlightened society
23:57would not say
23:58that your skin color
23:59is an immutable characteristic
24:00as an indicator
24:01of your political persuasion.
24:03To me, this is always
24:03the problem
24:04with the Supreme Court.
24:05They don't really take
24:06into account practical effect.
24:08Remember the Citizens United
24:09ruling about as much
24:11dark money as you want
24:12in politics,
24:13and Obama was at
24:14the State of the Union,
24:15and he said,
24:16this is going to change
24:16everything in Alito mouth.
24:18No.
24:19Yes.
24:20Yes.
24:21Yes, it did.
24:22They don't take this
24:23into account.
24:24As I said last week,
24:25I guess you didn't
24:26watch the show.
24:27They're not supposed to.
24:28Or else you wouldn't know.
24:28They're literally
24:29not supposed to take
24:30that into account.
24:30I know, but I said,
24:31we're not living
24:31in the future.
24:32It would be nice
24:33if that was where.
24:34And we are way,
24:35way different than we were
24:3720 years ago,
24:3850 years ago.
24:39The world is very different,
24:40and I've certainly
24:41taken my shit from the left
24:43for pointing out constantly
24:44that they are hyper-focused
24:46on race,
24:47and when they say things like,
24:49racism has never been worse,
24:51you're just ridiculous.
24:52But we are also
24:53not living in the future.
24:55Show this map, please.
24:56This is what the map
24:57could look like
24:58in the south
24:58of what it used to look like.
25:00See those blue?
25:01Those are blue districts.
25:03This is what it's
25:04going to look like now.
25:05There are districts
25:06that have been carved out
25:08so that minorities
25:09are represented,
25:10for sure.
25:10That is racial gerrymandering.
25:12It has to happen
25:14until we are living
25:15in the present,
25:16in the future,
25:17and we're not.
25:18And if you think
25:19that you're going to take away
25:21all these black representatives
25:22in the United States Congress
25:24without repercussions,
25:26I mean,
25:26you take away that many
25:28and have them,
25:29black people have scant
25:31representation in Congress,
25:33this is not going to say...
25:34The new governor of Florida
25:35is likely going to be black.
25:37You know,
25:38this is,
25:40white Republicans
25:41are voting him in.
25:42Look,
25:42first of all,
25:43let me just say this.
25:44For most of my childhood,
25:46I was represented
25:47by a white female,
25:49Lindy Boggs.
25:50She was outstanding,
25:51amazing.
25:52And when the moment came
25:54in history
25:54that she said,
25:55you know,
25:56I have served my time
25:57and this is an opportunity now
25:59to expand the electorate,
26:01to give more people
26:02a seat at the table.
26:04Look,
26:04we have black representatives,
26:05as you well know,
26:06who represent largely white.
26:08I mean,
26:08we had...
26:09Utah has had two blacks,
26:11not one.
26:12They're Republicans.
26:12And by the way,
26:13if you can elect
26:14more black Republicans,
26:15go ahead,
26:15I'll elect more black Democrats.
26:17We got a black Democrat
26:18out of Rhode Island.
26:19We got a black Democrat
26:20in Washington State.
26:21Ain't nothing wrong
26:22with being black
26:22and living in Nebraska
26:23or Kansas.
26:24That's okay.
26:25What I'm saying
26:26is that in the South,
26:27where half the black
26:29population reside.
26:31We should not be told
26:33that we no longer
26:34have a seat at the table.
26:35We do not.
26:36And this is my only thing.
26:37Bill,
26:37I do watch your...
26:40I watch him on Friday night
26:42and I went on ABC
26:43on Sunday,
26:44hotter than July.
26:45So I say,
26:45I've got to stop
26:46watching Bill
26:47because you really
26:48packed me up, baby.
26:49I didn't want to lose my job.
26:50You packed me up.
26:51I don't know.
26:52I said,
26:52ooh, ooh, ooh.
26:54Ooh, ooh, ooh.
26:56All right.
26:58I think that...
27:00And by the way,
27:01nobody gave us a voting right.
27:02We bled for it.
27:04Okay.
27:05All right.
27:05Thanks.
27:09The only thing to say
27:10about the Supreme Court
27:11decision here
27:12so that people
27:12are informed about it
27:14is they struck down
27:16this idea,
27:17and it's an idea.
27:19It's not written in statute.
27:20Oh, Lord.
27:20It's an idea
27:20that there has to be
27:21majority-minority districts.
27:23That was not
27:23in the Voting Rights Act.
27:24There's nowhere in there
27:25that says that.
27:26You're right about the...
27:27It's interpreted.
27:28That's policy.
27:28It's become tradition.
27:29You're right about the
27:30letter of the law.
27:31That's correct.
27:31But you know what?
27:32Find a new law.
27:33That's why you have
27:34a whole wall of law.
27:34Then write a new law.
27:35That's behind you.
27:36Then write a new law.
27:39That's the process.
27:40We got one.
27:41The John Lewis Voting Rights Act,
27:43and I hope you become a sponsor.
27:45We would love your support.
27:46If the majority
27:47of the American people
27:47want this...
27:49I can see you.
27:49And again, again,
27:50I would just...
27:51Oh, baby.
27:54That's...
27:54Okay.
27:56How many kisses?
27:59Just one kiss?
28:00You don't want my foot.
28:05I'm going to kiss...
28:06Look, we need support.
28:08We need to fight.
28:09Make it weird.
28:10And by the way...
28:10Let's make it weird.
28:11I'm not weird.
28:12No, let's make it weird.
28:14There ain't nothing
28:15can't hear about me.
28:16Okay?
28:17Hello?
28:17Unless I'm in the kitchen
28:18with my apron on.
28:22It covers up things, man.
28:25Okay.
28:26Look, the Voting Rights Act
28:28ends in all kinds of schemes
28:30that kept not just blacks' bill,
28:32but poor whites.
28:33Think about the poll tax.
28:34Think about the literacy test.
28:36It kept poor whites, too.
28:36It was necessary.
28:37It was absolutely necessary.
28:38So it was important
28:39that we struck down
28:40those laws and those rules
28:42so that we could have
28:43free and fair elections
28:44across the country.
28:45I am worried
28:45that we are going
28:46to be able to go to the South
28:48and want to see the SEC play.
28:49Oh, we got black athletes,
28:51but they have no representation.
28:54Where is it?
28:55Oh, through the South.
28:56Who doesn't?
28:57I mean, you're going to see
28:58black athletes playing this fall,
28:59throwing for LSU,
29:01throwing for Tennessee, Alabama,
29:03but no black representation
29:04in Congress next year.
29:05Oh, I see what you're saying.
29:06That's my point is,
29:07you know, I am very disturbed
29:09by this.
29:10I'm disturbed that we are
29:11turning back at a time
29:13when America's about
29:14to turn 250.
29:15I got my red, white,
29:15and blue gown, baby,
29:16and you're going to take me
29:17to the Dallas?
29:21I mean, again,
29:26the letter of the law
29:27is written for a perfect world.
29:29We don't live
29:29in that perfect world.
29:30I don't mean to speak
29:31for the black population.
29:32That is your job,
29:33but I'm just channeling...
29:34No, I can't speak
29:34for white people either,
29:35so you're okay.
29:36I'm just channeling
29:37the black folks I know.
29:41They like white people
29:42more than they used to
29:43because we are nicer
29:43than we used to be,
29:44but trust us?
29:46No, and I don't blame them.
29:48So there's just a lot
29:49of black folks
29:50who are not quite ready
29:52to vote for the white
29:53representative.
29:55They don't understand
29:56their life,
29:58because we are still
30:00a divided country
30:01in many ways.
30:02Yes, we are.
30:02I mean, when my friend
30:03Killer Mike puts out
30:04an album,
30:06I have to read the lyrics,
30:08and even then
30:09I don't understand it.
30:12It's like...
30:12I'm serious.
30:14I'm saying this
30:15to make a point.
30:16If that's the case,
30:18it's as different
30:20from English
30:20as Chaucer is,
30:22and that's just
30:23pointing out
30:24that we are not
30:26quite living in the future.
30:27Well, if you want
30:28to start living
30:28in the future,
30:29you have to go back
30:29to original principles,
30:30and original principles
30:31say that immutable
30:32characteristics...
30:33such as skin color
30:35should not be an indication
30:36of your character.
30:37That's an original principle.
30:38That's a foundational
30:40liberal principle.
30:42In a Constitution
30:43where slavery was legal,
30:45so...
30:46And then we fought a war
30:46to end it.
30:47I know.
30:48Because of our
30:48Declaration of Independence
30:49and the values,
30:50those original principles
30:51that we stated there,
30:52that was used
30:53as the argument
30:53against slavery
30:54by the Republicans.
30:55And look,
30:56maybe we need
30:57another period of enlightenment,
30:58because I'm going back
30:59to all of those theories
31:00that gave us
31:01this so-called
31:02great Constitution,
31:03the Bill of Rights,
31:05and of course
31:05the Declaration of Independence.
31:07But let me just say this.
31:08As you well know,
31:09it took women
31:10almost 144 years
31:12to secure the right to vote.
31:13Right.
31:13And look,
31:14we just had to fight
31:15once again
31:16for a medication
31:17that is safe.
31:18Safe!
31:19The Fifth Circuit
31:20saying that we should not
31:21receive our medication
31:22in the mail.
31:23It's medication.
31:24And people keep saying
31:25it's an abortion pill.
31:26Women need to have
31:28full access
31:29to the range
31:29of reproductive health care.
31:31No one should die
31:32having a miscarriage.
31:33Okay.
31:33All right.
31:36All right,
31:36I have to move on.
31:39I have to move on.
31:40You have a miscarriage.
31:40No, there's this.
31:41Very important thing.
31:42Ooh, you got hard work.
31:44Wait, wait,
31:44let me tell you
31:45what this is.
31:45A couple of weeks ago,
31:48maybe a month ago,
31:49I did a whole editorial
31:49about aliens
31:51because, you know,
31:52the world has changed now.
31:54I mean,
31:55it used to be
31:56the people
31:57who were talking about it
31:58were not the most
31:59serious people in the world.
32:00And now they are.
32:01It is the most
32:02serious people,
32:03military people.
32:04Two movies.
32:05One is a documentary.
32:06One is the Spielberg movie
32:07that's coming out.
32:08They both use the word
32:09disclosure in the title.
32:11We seem to be at that place.
32:13Trump is on board with this.
32:14He keeps teasing
32:15that we are going to see the files.
32:17Well, today was the day
32:18they released
32:19a lot of the files.
32:21Now,
32:21some of it
32:22is probably nothing.
32:23Some of it is interesting
32:24that I never heard before,
32:25like the astronauts
32:26on the Apollo 17 flight
32:28saw things
32:29that they were talking about
32:31that they thought
32:31were strange.
32:32Do you think
32:32they were really there, though?
32:33Oh, I don't know.
32:34But what I do know,
32:36and don't ask me
32:37how we got it,
32:38we got a hold
32:39of the stuff.
32:47Some of this
32:48hasn't even been released yet.
32:49Would you like to hear
32:50this is all about
32:51what we don't know
32:51about the aliens?
32:53Because,
32:53all right.
32:55For example,
32:57oh, this is so interesting
32:58right here.
32:59They never wash
32:59the anal probe.
33:01I, I...
33:02No.
33:05What else?
33:06Oh,
33:07their central computer
33:08was once destroyed
33:09by the illogic
33:10of North Dakota
33:11getting two senators.
33:13That's...
33:15Um...
33:16Oh.
33:17They don't reproduce
33:19through physical contact,
33:20just like Gen Z.
33:22Oh.
33:28Sometimes after
33:29the anal probe,
33:30they say,
33:30now do me.
33:35Oh.
33:37Very interesting.
33:38They did build
33:39the pyramids
33:39and also gave us
33:40the Bible,
33:41but only as a joke.
33:44Um.
33:47Oh.
33:48They refer...
33:49They refer to the
33:50missing Malaysian airliner
33:51as our bad.
33:57Oh.
33:59This is kind of sad.
34:01In the universe,
34:01we're considered
34:02a shithole planet.
34:03I, I, I...
34:04I find that...
34:09Oh, fascinating.
34:11They have over
34:1227 different genders,
34:14five fewer than at NYU.
34:15Um.
34:18And...
34:19I forget.
34:21Uh.
34:22They don't say,
34:22take me to your leader.
34:23They say,
34:24wait,
34:24this is your leader?
34:26Oh.
34:31Oh.
34:32And also,
34:34they want to know
34:34why the Michael movie
34:36left out all the stuff
34:36about kids.
34:37All right.
34:39That's, uh...
34:41All right.
34:44I want to talk
34:46about the Met Gala.
34:48I have never talked...
34:49What?
34:49I thought you just were.
34:52I know.
34:53Uh,
34:53the outfits are pretty much
34:54what the aliens might have.
34:56I've never...
34:57Wanted proof.
34:58There's your proof.
34:59I never talked about it
35:00because I know...
35:00I guess I never really
35:01understood it.
35:02there was a lot of
35:03controversy about it this year,
35:04so I'm reading about it.
35:05It's actually a charity.
35:07You know,
35:07the show,
35:08some of the people,
35:09I mean,
35:09this happens every year.
35:10The celebrities show up
35:11and they're wearing
35:12just the most outrageous
35:13things.
35:13I just thought,
35:14oh,
35:14they're celebrities.
35:15They're fucking nuts.
35:16That's what they do.
35:17They just,
35:18they're weirdos
35:19and they're attention whores
35:20and they just wear weird shit.
35:21I've seen them do it
35:22in other places.
35:23Yeah.
35:23No,
35:23this is actually a charity.
35:25Yes.
35:26For the Costume Institute
35:27at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
35:29Okay,
35:30I didn't,
35:30I never got that.
35:31It's for like fashion and art.
35:32All right.
35:32It's not like,
35:33for poor people.
35:34this year,
35:34there's a lot of controversy
35:36because it was apparently
35:37sponsored by Jeff Bezos.
35:39spent $10 million for it
35:41and they got very upset
35:42about this,
35:43the people I call
35:45the,
35:45uh,
35:46liberals in theory.
35:47Uh,
35:49and some people said
35:50they weren't going to go.
35:51Well,
35:51it turned out
35:51just about everybody went.
35:53And I guess
35:53the question I'm asking is
35:55for the party
35:56that's always talking
35:57about money
35:58and have kind of made
35:59making money evil.
36:01Now,
36:01I do believe
36:02that there should be
36:03an upper number
36:04that we tax on,
36:05that you can't have
36:06more money than,
36:07you know,
36:08some of these people
36:08have over $500 billion.
36:10That's crazy.
36:11But I am the farthest thing
36:12from a socialist.
36:13I don't,
36:14I think making money
36:15is good.
36:16Wanting to be rich
36:17is good.
36:17That's what,
36:18part of what makes America.
36:19America,
36:20we conform to human nature,
36:21which is greedy.
36:23But you can't have it
36:24both ways.
36:25I mean,
36:26Beyonce was there.
36:27She's wearing,
36:29she's wearing
36:30a $50 million necklace
36:32and the queen
36:33of Kalari diamond.
36:35Wow,
36:35I don't even know her.
36:36And I say,
36:37you go, girl.
36:38Look,
36:39I know her mother,
36:40but Beyonce,
36:42call me.
36:43I think I need
36:44to help her.
36:44I need to help her.
36:45Okay.
36:46Okay.
36:47I need to help her.
36:48No,
36:48but no,
36:48she's a little fabulous.
36:49But don't you think.
36:50She might have rented
36:51that shit, Bill.
36:52You know,
36:52she leased it
36:53so that she can brand it.
36:55I know,
36:55they give it to her to wear.
36:56And I say,
36:57good.
36:58I'm glad.
36:59Everybody should be able
37:00to do what they want
37:01in America
37:01and be as rich as they,
37:02not quite as rich
37:03as they want.
37:03I take that back.
37:05Don't steal my money,
37:06though.
37:06Don't steal the taxpayers' money.
37:07I'm sick of that shit
37:08right now.
37:09I'm sick of it.
37:10Too many graphic,
37:12greedy people
37:13stealing our money.
37:16Well,
37:17I was saying this
37:18the other week.
37:19You know,
37:19the problem is
37:20that when Bernie Sanders
37:21says,
37:21millionaires and billionaires,
37:23it's so outdated.
37:25Millionaires?
37:25You know that
37:26one out of six households
37:27in America
37:29are millionaires?
37:30One out of six.
37:31So when you say
37:31billionaires
37:32and you lump them in,
37:33this is what I was
37:33complaining about.
37:34Please don't.
37:35Don't lower my property value.
37:36Not right now, Bernie.
37:37I'm a little...
37:41But, you know,
37:42claiming you don't pay a...
37:43I pay a shit ton of taxes.
37:45Me too.
37:46It's the super rich
37:47who don't pay taxes.
37:48In fact,
37:49I call my husband Sam.
37:51He's a paper man.
37:53I pay him.
37:54And by the way,
37:55Gladys,
37:56Miss California,
37:57just gave me $4 back.
37:58I came on your show
37:59twice last year
37:59and I owe them money, Bill.
38:01What the hell's wrong with you?
38:03You bringing me out here
38:04to pay your taxes.
38:05That's not...
38:06Come on now.
38:08No, I'm...
38:09Bill, you're right.
38:11You'll love this.
38:12You know who the...
38:13I can call the democratic capitalist.
38:15That's it because I own my house.
38:17I mean, shit,
38:18I grew up in poverty.
38:20I've earned my money.
38:21I've earned the right.
38:23I love my nieces and nephews.
38:24I've given them everything I can.
38:26I want to enjoy the rest of my life.
38:29Right.
38:30But I also...
38:33Here's where Bernie makes...
38:35Here's Bernie's point.
38:37Bernie believes that we live in two Americas.
38:39Two Americas.
38:40And it's wrong that one set of Americans
38:42can no longer afford the American dream.
38:44One set of Americans keep, you know,
38:46working harder and having to pay more.
38:49And the other set seem like the rules
38:50are working for them.
38:52So that's Bernie's point.
38:53He may not be talking in 21st century language.
38:55He's got to update it because millionaires...
38:57It's like saying,
38:58here's a dime for the phone.
39:00Okay, it's a quarter now
39:01and we won't even have those anymore.
39:04He's also...
39:05I mean, I think he's just misrepresenting the truth,
39:06so he's got to stop doing that as well.
39:08So, I mean, we just go from statistics.
39:10Like, where does federal revenue come from?
39:12They say they're not paying their fair share.
39:13Well, the top 1% pays 40% of federal revenue.
39:16The bottom 50% pays 3% of federal revenue.
39:20Is that fair?
39:21Is that proportion fair?
39:23This is a subjective question.
39:25We actually believe, in our country,
39:27and we have for a long time,
39:28that there should be a progressive tax system.
39:29It's one of the most progressive,
39:30if not the most, in the world,
39:32when you conclude state and local.
39:33So the rich, not even...
39:35It's not even that everybody pays their, like, 20%.
39:37No, the rich pay a higher percentage in addition to.
39:41So the idea that they're just not paying taxes
39:44is factually incorrect, just by the numbers.
39:48So the question is then, like, what is fair?
39:51How are we defining it?
39:53Or is it just a populist rallying cry
39:55to build on resentment that people have?
39:58But would you say there should be a upper limit?
40:00In other words, if your personal wealth
40:02is worth 2% of gross national product,
40:06shouldn't we be able to cap something on the upper limit?
40:09No?
40:10No.
40:11$1 trillion?
40:12Yeah, why?
40:12Why?
40:13Where do they do it?
40:14Is that money a checking account?
40:15That money's not a checking account, first of all.
40:17They're using that to buy.
40:18We're talking about Elon,
40:19because I think that's the only person
40:20who even comes close to that.
40:21Well, some of them are...
40:22Like, how many companies and amazing things
40:24has he started?
40:24How many people has he employed?
40:26How many investments has he made?
40:27It's not like it's just sitting in a checking account.
40:30The guy's working 24 hours a day.
40:33Like, you know, and also that top 1%
40:35is a very fluid group of people, too.
40:37It's not the same people.
40:38It's usually made up of new people
40:40who, like, sold their business.
40:41They worked forever to build
40:42and finally sold it that year.
40:44They get lumped into the 1%,
40:45and then they're out the next.
40:46And wealthy Americans can afford accountants
40:49that can find those loopholes.
40:50They understand how to get tax breaks
40:52when they want to move their companies into a state
40:54and say, hey, you know,
40:55make sure I don't have to pay property taxes
40:57for the next 20 years.
40:58Look, the system is not working.
41:00That's why so many Americans
41:01are right now disgruntled.
41:03That's why Donald Trump is underwater,
41:05even on his strongest attributes.
41:07And that's why Democrats
41:08are the big, beautiful, ugly piece of shit.
41:12Seriously?
41:12You're going to close rural hospitals?
41:14You're going to take people off of Medicare?
41:15We put $50 billion into rural hospitals,
41:18literally put it into hospitals.
41:20And meanwhile, we can't afford health care
41:22for average Americans working $65,000 a year.
41:25You can afford it a lot less
41:26if you're paying more taxes.
41:27All right.
41:28So you need $1,000 more?
41:30No, the American dream
41:31should be affordable for all people.
41:33That's my position.
41:34I know.
41:35And I still like you.
41:37I still like you.
41:38The facts.
41:39Health care is expensive
41:39because Obamacare made it expensive.
41:41It created a market
41:42that is completely unviable.
41:44Wow.
41:45I love that you believe narratives, folks.
41:47I love it.
41:48But you've got to look at the facts
41:50and health care policy.
41:51More Americans have health care
41:51because of Obamacare.
41:51What actually happens in insurance markets.
41:53Well, they have health care,
41:55but it is true
41:55that very often they can't use it
41:58because part of that is
41:59because the Republicans
42:00tried every way they could
42:01to rat-fuck Obamacare
42:03after it was passed.
42:04They didn't even know.
42:05The Democrats passed it
42:06and said,
42:06well, we'll read it afterwards.
42:07I mean, they didn't know
42:08it was in it either.
42:09Okay.
42:10I mean, they took out some of the...
42:11I mean, it was...
42:12The only thing that got changed
42:13was zeroing out
42:14the tax penalty
42:15for not buying it.
42:16Well, until you have a replacement, Floyd,
42:17so until you have a replacement,
42:19we should keep what is working
42:20that keep America healthy and safe.
42:23That's obviously not working
42:24because there's many complaints about it.
42:26Oh, yeah.
42:28They're complaining all over the country.
42:30And it's not just health insurance.
42:32People are worried
42:33about their property insurance.
42:35They're worried about being able
42:36to pay for flood insurance,
42:37all of the things
42:38Well, then why do you guys
42:38want to raise their taxes?
42:39We don't want to raise their...
42:41Every Democrat voted against
42:43our primary bill
42:44that we all got elected
42:45and we did this first.
42:46We made tax cuts permanent.
42:47Yes, we made tax cuts permanent.
42:48you have wars after wars after wars
42:50and we cannot pay for it.
42:52We're about to raise
42:53the defense budget
42:54to $1.5 trillion
42:56while we bring in new ornament
42:57and new ammunition
42:58and new munitions
42:59but not looking at the...
43:00We're changing the subject.
43:01Yeah, let's do that.
43:02Let's change the subject.
43:04It's the subject.
43:04Wait, wait, wait.
43:05I want to change the subject.
43:07To this subject.
43:09Because, I mean,
43:10depending on budget,
43:11they're asking for
43:12a $600 billion increase.
43:13That is big.
43:15In an age
43:15when we are finding out
43:17from the Ukrainian war,
43:21it's drones, baby.
43:23And drones are cheap.
43:25So what are we spending?
43:27I guess...
43:28So it's not as crazy as it sounds.
43:31One, we're waking up to the fact...
43:33Nobody thought that they could fight Russia
43:36to a standstill.
43:37I didn't.
43:37I thought they were going to lose that war.
43:39And they did.
43:40That is the nature of warfare.
43:42The Gatling gun comes along,
43:43machine guns come along,
43:45planes, tanks,
43:46and the offense versus defense changes
43:48and war changes.
43:49We are at that moment now.
43:51Wars are completely being changed by drones.
43:54And it seems like we are financing
43:55the last war
43:56as well as fighting the last one.
43:58No, we're not.
44:00To make you feel better,
44:02we absolutely are investing a lot
44:04into drones.
44:05Drones of all types.
44:06From space down to the bottom of the ocean.
44:09Space is the new frontier.
44:13You know, China has known this for a while.
44:15That space is a warfare domain.
44:17We have refused to believe it for a long time.
44:19And there's finally investments in that space.
44:21And so a lot of this money is Golden Dome.
44:23A lot of this...
44:24Which, you know,
44:25back in Reagan's days and Star Wars,
44:27like the technology was not there.
44:28But now it is.
44:29But you've got to invest in it
44:30and put it up there.
44:32One of the reasons I've been in L.A. all week
44:33is visiting all these space companies
44:34that are out here.
44:35Because L.A. has one of the...
44:37Just has the ecosystem of labor
44:38that works in the space industry.
44:40It's flourishing.
44:42People like...
44:43And companies like SpaceX
44:44have obviously pioneered that.
44:46So a lot of investment in that.
44:47A lot of investment in paying it forward
44:49to save the taxpayer money in the long run.
44:51So instead of the stupid way
44:52that we often have bought weapons
44:54or new munitions,
44:55we pay more and more and more later
44:57because we tell companies,
44:58like, hey, we might buy some later.
45:00Right?
45:00And so what does that do?
45:01It raises the cost of production every time.
45:03So no.
45:03Put a final...
45:04Like, put an actual amount seven years out.
45:06So a lot of it is paying it forward
45:07and putting that investment in now.
45:10AI is another big one
45:11that you have to invest in.
45:13Shipbuilding industry as well.
45:15So that's the reason
45:16for that massive increase.
45:17And it's not obvious
45:18that it would be to continue to be that.
45:20But Bill, the problem is
45:21it's like a layer cake
45:23where you put on the bottom layer
45:24and then we've got a top layer
45:25and another layer.
45:26Well, this is...
45:27The bottom layer is going to stay the same,
45:29which is about $600, $700 billion.
45:32And then we add another $200...
45:35I used to work on Capitol Hill
45:36and the defense budget.
45:37You know, it's like going to a jewelry store
45:39and you're like,
45:40I like that one, I like that one,
45:41I like that one.
45:42We need to have a new strategic framing
45:44for 21st century wars.
45:45And you're absolutely right.
45:46We can learn a lot from Ukraine,
45:48but we shouldn't keep layering
45:49and layering and layering
45:50as if the taxpayers can afford this.
45:52All right.
45:53We have to close it there.
45:55Thank you for all your
45:57spirited discussion.
45:58Time for New Rules, everybody.
46:00New Rules.
46:09New Rule, we should all support the police,
46:11but it does have its limits.
46:12Like for this officer
46:13who was convicted of stripping naked
46:15and masturbating in a park.
46:18And I would just like to say to him,
46:20you keep your hands where we can see them.
46:29I would say you're a disgrace to the uniform,
46:31but I see you've sidestepped that issue already.
46:37New Rule, Baroness.
46:39The longest verifiably measured
46:41wild snake in the world.
46:43Better not be lying
46:44when it claims to be 23 feet 8 inches long.
46:55Because if we go on a date
46:56and it turns out Baroness
46:57is really 23 feet 4 inches,
46:59I'm going to be pissed.
47:07I said it in my profile.
47:09No games, no liars.
47:13New Rule, the next time a toddler
47:15gets stuck inside
47:16one of those arcade claw machines,
47:19the parents have to buy
47:21a couple rolls of quarters
47:22and try to win them back.
47:29I don't pay thousands of tax dollars
47:32to have fire and rescue
47:33pull your kid out of a box.
47:34I pay thousands of tax dollars
47:36to have fire and rescue
47:38pull lost dumbasses
47:39off the sides of mountains.
47:43New Rule, since the Met Ball
47:45and the Kentucky Derby
47:47happened in the same week,
47:48next year they have to
47:49swap outfits.
47:57The stupid, ridiculous hats
47:59that people wear to the Derby,
48:00I want to see those
48:01on Kim Kardashian,
48:02Bad Bunny, and Doja Cat.
48:08And at the Derby,
48:09the rednecks who love
48:10the animal abuse
48:11that is horse racing
48:12must come dressed like this.
48:22New Rule, the winner
48:24of the European
48:24Seagull Screeching Championship
48:28must be referred to
48:29as the loser.
48:36Because anyone can screech like that.
48:38There's a homeless guy
48:39on Hollywood Boulevard
48:40who does it all the time.
48:50You want to prove
48:51you can act like a seagull?
48:52Steal a French fry out of my hand
48:54while I'm eating it.
49:00And finally, New Rule,
49:02Luigi Mangione,
49:04Cole Thomas Allen,
49:05Tyler Robinson,
49:07and the ghost of Thomas Crooks
49:08must form a boy band
49:10called New Kids on the Glock.
49:21Just to drive home the point,
49:24these are not your father's
49:25political assassins.
49:27Things have changed.
49:29For one thing,
49:29today's assassins
49:30have popular support
49:32with the kids.
49:33Up to 40%
49:34of America's young adults
49:35say violence is okay
49:37to achieve a political goal.
49:39Wow.
49:40Seems like five minutes ago
49:41when one of the big causes
49:43of the left
49:43was gun control,
49:44but now guns are the answer?
49:46I guess,
49:47because Luigi
49:48is a fucking rock star.
49:51He's the OG hot assassin.
49:53The young assassins coming up
49:55even name-check him
49:56in their manifestos.
49:58When this guy was arrested
49:59for burning down
50:00a giant warehouse,
50:01he said it was like
50:02when Luigi popped
50:03that motherfucker.
50:06Before this college student
50:08threw a Molotov cocktail
50:09at Sam Altman's mansion,
50:11he talked about Luigi-ing
50:13some tech CEOs.
50:15And the asshole
50:16currently on trial
50:17for allegedly starting
50:18the big fire out here
50:20last year
50:20was Luigi's biggest fanboy.
50:23Good to see the kids
50:24have role models, huh?
50:33Another way this new breed
50:35of content creator assassins
50:37is different,
50:38they have jokes.
50:40Cole Allen called himself
50:42a friendly federal assassin
50:44and told his friends
50:45he was going to D.C.
50:46for a personal emergency.
50:48Wink, wink.
50:49His manifesto opens with,
50:51hello, everybody.
50:53It sounded like
50:54that form letter
50:54I get every Christmas
50:55telling me how everyone
50:56is doing in a family
50:57I don't care about.
51:07Tyler Robinson
51:08wrote little jokes
51:10on the bullets
51:10he fired at Charlie Kirk.
51:12Things like,
51:13if you're reading this,
51:14you're gay, LOL.
51:16I mean,
51:17John Wilkes Booth
51:18was an asshole,
51:19but at least
51:20when he did the deed,
51:21he said something serious.
51:23Sic semper tyrannis.
51:24Not,
51:25I fucked your mom.
51:32Cole Allen
51:33took selfies
51:34before enacting
51:36his diabolically clever plan
51:38of running fast.
51:44You know,
51:45Cole,
51:46why do I think
51:47this is more about you
51:48than the cause?
51:49because you're running
51:50through the metal detector,
51:52but maybe you're really
51:53chasing clout.
51:54Allen wrote
51:55that he was
51:56consumed by rage thinking
51:57about everything
51:59this administration
51:59has done.
52:01Yeah,
52:02join the club.
52:03Donald Trump
52:04is infuriating.
52:05I know this personally.
52:06That's why
52:07whenever I'm around him,
52:08I'm so nervous
52:09I need a drink
52:09right away.
52:21You're not really mad at him.
52:23You're mad at your life.
52:25This is about being 31
52:26and still living
52:27with your mom
52:28in Torrance.
52:29Life was supposed
52:30to come out better.
52:32This guy went to Caltech
52:33for Christ's sake.
52:34He dreamed of being
52:35a video game designer,
52:37but really was
52:38a substitute teacher.
52:40Do you think
52:41if he'd ever sold
52:42actually a video game
52:44and got rich,
52:45he'd be doing this?
52:46Look,
52:47I feel for that generation.
52:48You guys grew up
52:49with the iPhone,
52:50which fucks people up,
52:51and now AI.
52:52No wonder you're always
52:53wearing a hoodie
52:54in the fetal position.
52:59Plus,
53:00as long as you can remember,
53:01the president
53:02has either been dead
53:03or this guy.
53:10So,
53:13sympathy,
53:14for you,
53:14yes,
53:15but also,
53:16it's always been thus.
53:18Sadly,
53:19your parents and teachers
53:20didn't prepare you
53:21for this,
53:22so you have no idea
53:23how hard or easy
53:24you have it,
53:24but because you're
53:25so entitled,
53:26you just assume
53:27you have it tougher
53:28than anybody ever did.
53:29You don't.
53:30In fact,
53:31your generation lives
53:32an historically easy life.
53:34You can get sushi
53:35or a weighted blanket
53:36delivered in hours.
53:37You can do it.
53:38You can do your banking
53:40sitting on the toilet.
53:43They sell weed
53:44in a store now.
53:53In a financial pinch,
53:55you can sell pictures
53:55of your feet.
53:59Your biggest hardship
54:00is when the Wi-Fi drops
54:02and you have to briefly
54:03experience the 20th century.
54:06And yet,
54:07you've convinced yourselves
54:08that your current level
54:10of discomfort
54:10justifies revolutionary violence.
54:13Cole Allen's life
54:14only sucked
54:15by his own
54:16unreasonable standards.
54:18He wasn't on welfare.
54:19He was on LinkedIn.
54:27For his assassination attempt,
54:29he stayed at the Hilton.
54:32If your assassination
54:34comes with Hilton
54:35honors rewards points,
54:44Gen Z lives
54:46are not that bad.
54:47Most of our lives
54:48here in America
54:49are not.
54:50How we live right now,
54:52in the year
54:53we're actually living in,
54:54in the country
54:55we're actually living in,
54:57doesn't warrant
54:57condoning political violence.
55:00I can see it
55:00if you live under
55:01a truly oppressive regime,
55:04communism,
55:05fascism,
55:06Catholicism.
55:09But that's not
55:10where we are now.
55:11You're not storming
55:12the beaches at Normandy.
55:13You're not standing
55:14in bread lines.
55:15You know,
55:16just like our
55:17no kings
55:18we had here,
55:19the protests,
55:20they also had them
55:21in Iran.
55:22But over there,
55:23the protesters
55:23got shot in the street.
55:25And yes,
55:26ICE did that too,
55:27twice.
55:28The Iranian thugs
55:29did it 30,000 times.
55:31Have some perspective.
55:33Get real.
55:41Stop blaming America
55:42for all your fuck-ups.
55:44What this is really about
55:45for today's young assassins
55:47is when life lets you down
55:49and doesn't properly reward you
55:51for being the awesome person
55:53you're sure you are.
55:55There's one big save left.
55:57Convince yourself
55:58you were meant
55:58for a cause
55:59bigger than yourself.
56:01And for Cole Thomas Allen,
56:02it was I'm fighting Hitler.
56:04And I get why
56:05that's a tempting thing
56:06to cosplay.
56:08If Trump is Hitler,
56:09then you're Tom Cruise
56:10in Valkyrie.
56:11Nobody trying
56:12to take him out.
56:18Yeah.
56:27I get mistaken
56:28for a conference.
56:29It's a theme show.
56:31What can I say?
56:34But Trump isn't Hitler
56:35and you're not Tom Cruise.
56:37And you don't really live
56:38on the desert moon
56:39of an evil umpire.
56:41You live in Torrance,
56:42which I understand
56:43is not exactly L.A.
56:44or London,
56:45but please,
56:46you're not in Haiti
56:47or Afghanistan.
56:48You're at Coachella.
56:58life doesn't really suck so bad.
57:01You would just rather
57:01be a martyr
57:02than nobody.
57:04The whole tone
57:05of Cole Allen's manifesto
57:06was,
57:07sorry guys,
57:08but America needs me.
57:09A hero has risen.
57:11You're not a hero.
57:12You're just the guy
57:13who runs out
57:14into the field
57:15during a baseball game
57:16to get attention
57:17and in 10 seconds
57:18gets tackled
57:19by security
57:20except in your case,
57:21no,
57:22that's exactly your case.
57:24All right.
57:25That's our show.
57:26I want to thank
57:27Representative Dan Prenshaw,
57:28Donna Brazile,
57:29and Senator John Fetterman.
57:31Club Random
57:31every Monday on YouTube
57:32or listen wherever
57:33you get your podcast.
57:35Now go watch
57:35Overtime on YouTube.
57:37Thank you very much,
57:38ladies and gentlemen.
57:40Okay.
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