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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 08: A Deadly Argument
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00:099-1-1, what is the address of your emergency?
00:11Yes, I need an ambulance. 3028, no road.
00:14Tell me exactly what happened.
00:16My girlfriend's not breathing.
00:18Okay, stand online with me, okay?
00:20We've got help on the way.
00:22Nicole!
00:28Okay, listen carefully.
00:30Pump the chest hard and fast, at least twice per second and two inches deep.
00:34Start now.
00:39Count out loud so I can count with you.
00:42One, two, three, four.
00:53One, two, three, four.
00:57Keep going, don't stop.
01:00One, two, three, four.
01:19Female not breathing.
01:20She's got no pulse.
01:22We have someone take the bag for him, and Chris is going to get on the chest here.
01:26Hey, Brian, we do have three dead.
01:28All right.
01:29All right.
01:30All right.
01:32All right.
01:32All right.
01:33All right.
01:33All right.
01:36All right.
01:46All right.
01:47All right.
02:01Who is this?
02:02I don't know her name.
02:16What's her name?
02:17Nicole.
02:19What's her name, sir?
02:20Tom.
02:21What happened?
02:22How did you guys...
02:23We were arguing.
02:25She said she wasn't feeling great.
02:26She fell over on the floor.
02:28I need you outside with me, okay?
02:30I want to be with my kids.
02:31I understand that, but I need you outside.
02:32I'm not leaving my kids, sir.
02:33Sir, I need...
02:35Sir, go on.
02:37It's going to be okay.
02:38I need to talk to you, okay?
02:40I need to figure out what's going on.
02:44Look, I...
02:45Can you wait?
02:46Can I be with my kids from here?
02:48Sir, I need...
02:49Listen, I'm trying to figure out what is going on so I can help her.
02:51I told you as much as I can.
02:53Can I please have a moment with my kids
02:54and try to get a hold of somebody from my kids?
02:56Okay, okay.
03:02Is that your wife or their mom?
03:04That's...
03:05That's their mom.
03:06I hope I'm the mother of my family, yes.
03:07I need your help with this so we can help her.
03:09Can you give me a minute?
03:10Can you leave me alone, please?
03:12Janelle.
03:17He's being completely uncooperative.
03:19They were arguing, and he said she just fell over.
03:21Where is he?
03:22Right here.
03:24Sir, we need to talk to you.
03:25Sir.
03:28Okay.
03:29I know you're going through a lot,
03:31but we have to talk to you to get some ideas of what's going on, okay?
03:35Sir.
03:36Can you leave me alone, please?
03:37No.
03:37I need to understand...
03:38I've got to get a hold of somebody from my kids.
03:40Okay.
03:40I need to know what's going on.
03:42Go find out what's going on.
03:44I don't know what's going on.
03:45You're right here when this all happens.
03:47What is her name?
03:48Her name is Nicole.
03:49Nicole what?
03:50Nicole Booth.
03:51Boo, does she have any medical issues?
03:54Not that I know of, no.
03:57Did you guys see anything?
03:59You leave them alone.
04:00No.
04:01Sir.
04:01Ma'am.
04:02We need to understand what...
04:03Can you please stop that?
04:04I asked.
04:05I asked to give me a minute, please.
04:07Listen.
04:07I'm trying to figure out what's going on.
04:09I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:10So you can stop.
04:11No.
04:11I just asked for you to give me a minute.
04:12That's the first thing I asked him.
04:14Okay.
04:15I didn't have a chance to call nobody.
04:16I was trying to get my kids.
04:17Okay.
04:18I got you guys here.
04:19Listen.
04:19I've been trying to get...
04:20Shut your mouth.
04:21We're trying to understand...
04:22Please not talk to me like that.
04:23How about listen to me?
04:24I have not listened to you.
04:26Will you please listen to me?
04:27I'm trying to talk to you.
04:28And I'm trying to be nice about it.
04:30I'm trying to figure out so we can help the EMTs,
04:33so they can understand what's going on.
04:35What does she use?
04:36I told you what's going on.
04:37She said she wasn't feeling good.
04:38She fell over.
04:41410, are you still in route here?
04:42This mail is completely uncooperative.
04:53It's probably what's going to happen.
04:54As so far, he's given the name of Nicole Booth.
04:58They were arguing a little bit ago,
05:00and then she fell out.
05:0421 here.
05:06All right, sir, I need you to come with me.
05:08Now.
05:08Stand up.
05:10Please, sir.
05:11Stand up.
05:11Please, sir.
05:12Outside, come on.
05:17Outside.
05:23You need to take a seat.
05:26Okay.
05:27Listen.
05:28Please don't do this.
05:28Let me talk to my kids.
05:29Let me talk to my kids.
05:29Listen.
05:30Let me talk to my kids.
05:31You need to calm down.
05:32I'm trying to calm down.
05:34I'm trying to help the EMTs so they could save Nicole.
05:37Nicole.
05:37Okay.
05:38Nicole.
05:38What happened?
05:39How did she end up on the floor?
05:40We took a shower.
05:41She wasn't feeling good.
05:42We took a shower.
05:43We went out to the couch.
05:45She said she wasn't feeling good.
05:47She got down on the floor, and she fell over.
05:50I tried getting her up.
05:52I got some water.
05:52I threw some water on her.
05:53She didn't wake up.
05:55Okay.
05:55You need to stand up.
05:57Stand up.
05:57Can you take these off?
05:58No.
05:59Absolutely not.
06:00Please.
06:00Absolutely not.
06:01I need to get my hands over my head.
06:03What's a phone number we can call for someone to be here?
06:06I don't know phone numbers, sweetie.
06:08They're holding my phone.
06:09Give me a name.
06:11She knows how to work your phone.
06:12Give me a name.
06:13I was calling my sister.
06:14Okay.
06:15You have to understand.
06:16We're trying to figure out what's going on as well.
06:19You have to be cooperative.
06:21I am being cooperative.
06:22You weren't.
06:22Give me a name.
06:23You're not telling us anything because you're here to help your kids.
06:25Sir.
06:26I'm not walking away.
06:27I'm going to sit down, man.
06:28Have a seat right there.
06:29We're not going to deal with this nonsense.
06:31I'm not dealing with nonsense.
06:34So you're telling me you guys were in an argument and she magically just fell and passed out right
06:39there.
06:40So far, we have a 21.
06:42Still trying to figure out what's going on here.
06:44Listen.
06:45Oh, please.
06:46What is your name?
06:48Tom.
06:49Okay.
06:50Tom what?
06:51Craley.
06:52Craley?
06:53Okay.
06:54What does she use?
06:58What does she use?
07:00You need to tell me so I can help her.
07:02We need to know what she used.
07:05You're not going to tell us?
07:07Then you'll go to jail because you're uncooperative.
07:10Sit up.
07:11You need to stop.
07:12You need to stop.
07:13You are going to fall off the steps and you are going to hurt yourself.
07:16No.
07:21Pulse return.
07:34Not vertical.
07:36Oh, God.
07:37What are you doing?
07:38I can't believe you.
07:39Oh, you got a bumpy, buddy.
07:41I can't do it.
07:41Yeah, I can't do it.
07:42I can't do it.
07:42I can't do it.
07:43I can't do it.
07:44I can't do it.
07:45I can't do it.
07:46Please, God.
07:47Yes.
07:47Don't worry about the feet.
07:53Oh.
07:59Ready?
08:00Yep.
08:01Go.
08:02Back.
08:04Slow your breathing down.
08:05Deep breaths.
08:06Deep breaths.
08:07You'll catch your breath.
08:08Deep breaths.
08:09Do it for your kids.
08:10Calm down.
08:14I can't get my hands.
08:16Please.
08:18I've got to get my hands up.
08:21Sir, you're making it worse on yourself.
08:23Please.
08:25You're going to make it worse.
08:27I can't breathe.
08:28My face is going up.
08:30Get my hands up.
08:34Get my hands up, please.
08:35Sir, what do you want me to do for you?
08:37My face is going up.
08:37I can't breathe.
08:38Get my hands up on my head so I can expand my lungs.
08:42Come on, please.
08:43Sir, you're going to hurt yourself, okay?
08:46You're going to end up in the back of my car if we don't stop.
08:50You need to stop.
08:52Your kids are right here.
08:53You need to stop.
08:54You need to calm down for them.
08:57Do you need a hospital, sir?
08:59Did you take any narcotics or any other drug today that is affecting the way you are acting?
09:07Is this what happened to Nicole?
09:09Did she use a drug?
09:14Also, they're transporting her to the hospital.
09:17They're still working on her with the machine.
09:27Can I step in the back to look at her?
09:35We had a full arrest.
09:37It's a 30-year-old female.
09:38We had a return of pulse.
09:40She's at 95 for pulse right now.
09:42She's still unresponsive.
09:45I say a helicopter for this.
09:47Go ahead and call dispatch to tell them to get a helicopter here.
09:50Are we able to get a helicopter started over here?
09:53We can't over.
09:54I can try.
09:55Nobody's going to find out today.
09:57It's just a pretty critical patient.
10:10You don't think any of this is from when she fell?
10:12I don't know.
10:13Where she was?
10:14No.
10:14Not for that.
10:15She's all bruised and had the...
10:17Yeah.
10:17She's got broken teeth.
10:18I think she's got jaw fractures.
10:21423 to 410.
10:22If you got pulse, I don't want to...
10:2733, don't let him out of your sight.
10:31This evening through tomorrow, 19, first alert weather day in effect.
10:34Area-wide snow with a clipper system.
10:36Lake effect then follows it.
10:38And the winds, the winds are going to be a really, really big deal with this storm.
10:42This is Jerobo community care.
10:43We have a post-arrest.
10:46Looks to me from blunt force trauma, because she's covered head to toe in bruises.
10:51She has some teeth knocked out.
10:54I was trying to get a helicopter out.
10:56I was trying to get a helicopter out.
10:56I think you have to come forward.
10:57I think you have to come forward.
10:57I guess.
10:59What do we got going on here?
11:01He's...
11:01Why is this guy laying in the doorway with a blanket on him?
11:03He's half naked.
11:04Okay.
11:07All right.
11:07I want you to stand up.
11:08Hey, what's...
11:09Tell us what's going on here so we can figure this out.
11:11You're laying down...
11:13He's...
11:13He's cuffed.
11:14This ain't happening.
11:15So we're going to put him in a police car.
11:16Yes, that's...
11:17Okay.
11:29Once we get in our car, then we can start to sort through this in a rational, logical
11:34way.
11:34But when you're laying in the doorway and there's kids crying, that's not helpful.
11:40Don't you agree, Tom?
11:41That's not helpful.
11:48You can catch it for often.
11:50Warm.
11:51Heat.
11:51Yeah, it's warm.
11:52It's warm in there.
11:54Heat high.
11:55High.
11:56Okay.
11:56Sit tight in there.
11:57Can I get my hands above my head?
11:59Nope, please.
11:59Sit there.
12:01Okay, what's happening?
12:02Okay, so got called here, obviously, for a response to female.
12:05Okay.
12:05Unknown circumstances.
12:06I show up.
12:07He's running around sweating crazy.
12:10Okay.
12:10She's laying in the living room, like near the dining table area, completely unconscious,
12:15not breathing.
12:15They're giving her CPR.
12:16Do you see any injuries on her when you're looking at her?
12:17Oh, absolutely.
12:18Do you see her legs?
12:19I haven't seen her yet.
12:20She is black and blue, wrapped up cuts.
12:23They still want to land a helicopter?
12:24Nope.
12:26They're flying from all hospitals.
12:28All right.
12:35You got some food, man?
12:38No, no.
12:42Where did you see mom at when she couldn't breathe?
12:47I had a soda.
12:49You had a soda, okay.
12:50It was a soda.
12:53That's fine.
12:54That's fine.
12:55That's fine.
12:56You guys.
12:57Okay.
12:58Is it wet because he put some water on mom to try to help her?
13:02Okay.
13:02423, I said 4.
13:06423.
13:08Females being transported to Geauga.
13:14Is this like a shower?
13:16Yeah.
13:17It's so much money to do a shower.
13:19Oh, it's a lot.
13:20Yeah.
13:21Who's in a wheelchair?
13:23My mom was using it for a shower.
13:25Oh, does she have a hard time walking?
13:28Oh, she does?
13:29What happened?
13:30No problem.
13:34Can I talk to you outside?
13:35Yeah.
13:36Okay.
13:38Okay.
13:39What's going on?
13:39She has, I think, a broken jaw.
13:41Her teeth are all broken.
13:43Okay.
13:44Her eye is all cut up.
13:46This eye is all bruised, swollen shut.
13:48Okay.
13:49Her legs are covered in bruises.
13:51Her arms.
13:51Your stuff are old stuff.
13:53The face is brand new.
13:54Okay.
13:55So, I didn't see where she was laying.
13:59Oh, okay.
14:00I tried to, there's no skin or anything under her nails.
14:03I tried looking at that.
14:04Okay.
14:05But these are, these kind of look a little old, but it's kind of hard to tell with all that
14:09on.
14:10The stuff on the face looks pretty fluffy.
14:11Yeah.
14:12Okay.
14:14If they let me get that real quick, that's all, that's new.
14:17Okay.
14:18For sure.
14:18Yeah.
14:18Yeah.
14:19Okay.
14:19I'll make it before.
14:20I'll make it before.
14:22Oh, okay.
14:26Okay.
14:36Yeah.
14:37Hey, Grandma and Grandpa here.
14:38They're going to hang out with you for a little bit right here in the foyer area.
14:41Hi.
14:43Can you get your turn quick?
14:44Yeah, it's really short.
14:46You quit calling everybody.
14:48Yeah, he's really, he's blowing up everybody's phone.
14:51Yeah, normally they don't have a phone, so he's.
14:54Oh, okay.
14:55They're not even allowed to touch a phone.
14:57Oh, those aren't their phones?
14:59No, I told them to go grab a phone to call.
15:01Oh, okay.
15:02She didn't know very much number.
15:04Okay, but you don't need to be calling 5,000 people.
15:07Okay.
15:07Why did you call?
15:09Whose one is this one?
15:10That's the dad.
15:11This is the dad's?
15:11Okay.
15:11And whose one did you just put in your pocket?
15:13I have no clue.
15:14If I have it back, grab it back.
15:15I'll take them all.
15:16Just until we, yeah, well, we need to figure out what's going on.
15:20Who called Aunt Nita to come get them?
15:22The dad kept trying to call a bunch of people when I was first here.
15:25To come and get them?
15:27I don't know.
15:28He was just trying to call people.
15:30Well, just because nobody takes their kids.
15:33Nobody.
15:35They've spent one night away from their mom and dad since they've been born.
15:39Obviously, today's a little different than usual because things that happen today don't usually happen.
15:44He's sitting in my car.
15:46He won't say what's happening.
15:47I need to sit down.
15:52Hi, babies.
15:54How bad is Nikki?
15:55Can you guys tell me that?
15:56No.
15:57No?
15:58Where did you guys take her?
15:59Geauga.
15:59Geauga.
16:00Yes.
16:01That's who I was at.
16:02Have they gotten a hold of her parents at all?
16:03Okay.
16:04Everything is in the very early stages.
16:06Okay.
16:06So you guys are pretty much the first people.
16:08I'm pretty familiar with a lot of things that go on here.
16:11Is that right?
16:11Okay.
16:12I come out here a lot.
16:13The kids will tell you that.
16:14Yeah.
16:14I've been to check on Nikki a few times.
16:17Okay.
16:18Maybe, Geauga, you want to speak to her outside so that everybody in the whole world doesn't have to hear
16:22everything?
16:23Yeah.
16:26Let me go out here and talk to her.
16:27I'll be right back in to you guys, okay?
16:30How are you?
16:31Hello.
16:31I'm good.
16:32How are you?
16:32I'm okay.
16:33All right.
16:34Just give me a minute.
16:34I'm going to talk to him real quick, okay?
16:42Hi.
16:44Did Matt already tell you everything?
16:46Did Matt already briefed you on?
16:47Yeah.
16:48I tried talking to the kids when we first got here.
16:50They were in the bedroom, and the guy was back there, and I'm trying to, like, ask him his name,
16:54what's going on.
16:55He went and talked to me.
16:56Where's he at now?
16:57In Matt's car.
16:59Right down here.
16:59And I tried talking to the kid, and I tried to talk to the kid, like, hey, what happened?
17:02And he was like, no, don't.
17:03He won't let them talk to me.
17:05So they might open up a little bit.
17:06She said she knows some stuff.
17:08This is a sister.
17:09Hi, I'm my sister.
17:13Nice to meet you.
17:14Nice to meet you.
17:14Nice to meet you.
17:15Yeah, I've been out here to check on Nikki a couple times.
17:18Okay.
17:18I know that my brother has been physically abusive to her in the past.
17:25Last time I was out here was probably about two weeks ago, and Nikki was unrecognizable.
17:31Honestly, I've been in fear to contact you guys.
17:34She's asked me not to contact you guys.
17:36What's his name?
17:37Tom.
17:38Tom, what's his name?
17:38Grayley.
17:39Grayley, okay.
17:41Is he in jail?
17:42Is that what I'm guessing?
17:43No.
17:43No.
17:44He's in someone's car.
17:45Yeah, he's in the back of one of the cars.
17:50Oh, he's here.
17:51Okay.
17:51Okay.
17:52Yeah.
17:53Um, yeah.
17:53What do you mean unrecognizable?
17:55Like you, she didn't look like my sister-in-law.
17:58Like cuts, bruises, scrapes?
18:00Beat the f*** up.
18:05She's begged me not to call you guys, I think, in fear of what may happen.
18:10Okay.
18:10To her.
18:12That was two weeks ago?
18:13About two weeks ago, I would say.
18:15Does she have any bruising or anything on her legs or arms?
18:17Uh, she was covered up.
18:19Okay.
18:20So, I don't know, but I know that she couldn't move very easily, so I would have to say so.
18:26Okay.
18:27The kids did say she has some trouble walking, um, but...
18:32They didn't say why she couldn't breathe, like...
18:36No, they said they didn't really see anything.
18:38So, but I think it's in fear that he has told them not to talk.
18:44Probably.
18:45This is...
18:45Is that usually what happened?
18:47Um, I just...
18:48It doesn't say a lot to them in front of me.
18:50Okay.
18:51Um, I just know that he...
18:54He doesn't like the cops, and that he's kind of trained the kids the same way, if you will.
18:59Yeah.
19:01Um...
19:01Okay.
19:04Yeah, I don't...
19:04I don't know what happened.
19:05When's the last time you talked to her?
19:07To her?
19:08Mm-hmm.
19:08They were actually just at my house...
19:12Two nights ago, I believe?
19:14And she...
19:15Have any marks on her then?
19:16Uh, her face was still swelled and stuff.
19:18Like, her eyes were bruised or anything?
19:20I really didn't see.
19:20I know her nose looked, like, a little wide.
19:22Okay.
19:24Um...
19:24Like I said, I didn't see her very clearly.
19:26It was nighttime when they went through her there.
19:29Okay.
19:29I'm gonna come up here so I don't have to look up at you.
19:31Sorry.
19:33But, um...
19:33Yeah, she, um...
19:35Her lips looked a little swelled, too, you know?
19:39Okay.
19:39Um, like I said, I couldn't see her face real clearly.
19:41Is it typical, just arguments, or is it, like, the same thing you think?
19:45I know that they fight a lot.
19:47Um, I think Tom needs help.
19:50Um, Tom is, like, a conspiracy theory.
19:53He kind of...
19:54He's out the back.
19:55I love him, but he's my brother, and he's f***ed up.
20:03Can I get this handcuff losing, please?
20:07It's killing me.
20:08Hey, Sergeant, you...
20:11Yeah.
20:17This one on my right is really...
20:19Okay, I'll take a look at it.
20:21Come on.
20:24This one's way better now.
20:26So tell me, how's that one feel now?
20:27That one's way better.
20:28Okay.
20:29I'm trying to handcuff.
20:31You're in the back of the police car.
20:32I'm gonna advise you of your rights.
20:34You're the right to remain silent.
20:35Anything you say can and will be used against you for a while.
20:42Tom, look at me.
20:43You guys ever get physical?
20:44Can you do me a favor?
20:47What's that?
20:47What in favor?
20:48And I'll talk to you for hours if you want.
20:51What do you need?
20:52Let me go in and sit with my kids and hold my kids,
20:56because I'm gonna need to give you things anyway.
20:59You're gonna need to give me things?
21:01I want to give you things.
21:02I have tons of things to give you.
21:05Like what?
21:14It doesn't help me.
21:16I'm interested in what happened tonight, okay, Thomas?
21:24You've been arguing.
21:27I'm feeling good.
21:29Okay.
21:30I think we were in the living room.
21:33We started arguing again,
21:35and she said that she didn't feel good when it fell.
21:40She fell?
21:42Mm-hmm.
21:44Thomas, listen to me.
21:46Hey.
21:49Nicole didn't sustain those injuries from falling,
21:52and you know that.
21:53I know.
21:56I'm not saying you're a bad guy.
21:57I think things just got a little carried away tonight.
22:00Would you agree?
22:01Would you agree?
22:02Would you agree with that?
22:06I'm not agreeing with that.
22:08You're trying to put me in a position I don't want to be in,
22:11and that's making me upset.
22:13I don't want to.
22:14I wouldn't want to be in that position either.
22:16I get that.
22:16I understand.
22:18As for one thing,
22:20please just let me put my arms around my kids
22:22and give you whatever you need.
22:24I'm not uncuffing you
22:25and having you put your arms around your children.
22:27It's not going to happen.
22:31I can't do it.
22:33Those handcuffs aren't coming off until you get to jail.
22:45Lieutenant Ward's going to kind of give us an idea
22:47of what he wants everybody to do.
22:48Until we figure out what's going on,
22:50I don't want anybody in this house, okay?
22:52Everybody's going to have to get,
22:54I don't want anybody taking anything.
22:57So I need you guys to go out to your cars
23:01so we can do what we need to do in here.
23:03Don't be afraid to talk to these guys, okay?
23:05They're here to help.
23:06They're here to help you, okay?
23:08And your mom.
23:08And your mom.
23:09That's the most important thing.
23:10We need to help your mom, okay?
23:12Okay.
23:12Because she's not doing well in the hospital.
23:14The doctors need to help.
23:15Okay, listen.
23:16They need to know what happens
23:17and what goes on here, okay?
23:24Talking to the kids.
23:34You guys are okay, okay?
23:36When you're done talking,
23:38you can come out and sit with mom and papa.
23:41You're all right, baby girl.
23:42I need my shoes.
23:46In a minute, okay, bud?
23:47You good?
23:49Yeah.
23:49All right.
23:50Do you want to help your mommy?
23:52Do you want to get out of this situation
23:53so your mommy's safe?
23:54I know that daddy's told you guys
23:56not to talk to people,
23:57but sometimes you have to.
24:00Have they been fighting the past couple days
24:01like they do when Aunt Ada comes out to visit
24:04and check on you guys?
24:06Yes.
24:06Yes?
24:08They have been?
24:09There's a great bucket.
24:10I'm used to help you.
24:13Have hair?
24:14Okay, so in the shower,
24:15I did see a clump of hair in the shower.
24:17Okay.
24:18Okay, yeah.
24:19There's a bucket of hair in the shower.
24:24Just whatever you guys can remember,
24:26we need to talk to these guys
24:27and we need to talk to them, okay?
24:30That way they can go first.
24:33This will help your mom.
24:35This will help your mom
24:36and this will help your dad
24:36get the help that he needs, hopefully.
25:06You won't listen to me,
25:08you won't listen to me,
25:08nobody will.
25:09I am listening.
25:10Listen, we have to ride to the county jail
25:11and I will listen to you.
25:12Yeah, but all the things
25:14that I'm telling you I need
25:15for my evidence,
25:16you're going to destroy
25:17because people are going to be in my house.
25:20You're not going to get it all.
25:21I've offered to give it to you
25:22and I've tried to talk to you
25:24and you guys just make a mockery of me.
25:26Is it not good enough
25:27that I'm trying to talk to you?
25:28Is it not good enough
25:29that I called for services?
25:31Is it not good enough
25:32that I tried to give you information?
25:34It's honestly, Tom.
25:35From nobody, I didn't do nothing.
25:37I didn't create no problems.
25:39The only thing I asked for
25:40was to give me a moment
25:42so I could come down
25:43and counsel my kids.
25:45When someone needs help
25:46and you want to give us a box of papers,
25:48that's no good.
25:49You know there's nothing in my f***ing house
25:51that's going to save her.
25:53There's nothing in my house
25:54that's going to save her.
25:55What happened to her?
25:57You were there and we weren't
25:59and if someone could tell me
26:01what happened in your house
26:01before I got there
26:03and I could pass it on to the doctors,
26:04it might make the difference
26:05between her living and dying.
26:07So I don't want to talk
26:07about boxes of papers.
26:09So why don't we talk
26:09about what happened to her
26:10so we can help the doctors
26:11understand what's going on
26:12so they can develop a plan
26:15to help treat her
26:15and try to get her to live.
26:17I'm not a doctor.
26:18What do you want me to tell you?
26:19Well, what happened in the house
26:20before we got there?
26:22I'm not a doctor.
26:23What do you want me to tell you
26:24that's going to save her life?
26:25What caused her injuries?
26:27What caused her injuries?
26:28You can tell me what caused her injuries.
26:29What caused her injuries
26:30is a great start.
26:32Me and her.
26:33What does that mean?
26:35That means just what I said.
26:36It means me and her.
26:37She hurt herself?
26:38Yes, she's hurt herself.
26:40Okay.
26:40I told the 911 dispatch.
26:42She said she wasn't feeling good
26:44and she passed out.
26:45She quit breathing.
26:46So how did her face
26:47get all like that?
26:48Changed the subject on me.
26:49No, I'm saying she said...
26:51Changed the subject on me.
26:52Okay.
26:55Please, sir, will you listen to me?
26:57Pull over here on this...
26:58I'm not going to pull over.
26:59I can hear you just fine.
27:00There's no reason I have to stop
27:01to be able to listen.
27:02I can listen and drive.
27:03But you're going to miss
27:04the most important things for me.
27:07But yet you've said nothing yet.
27:09I'm trying to tell you
27:11but you won't listen.
27:13How am I not listening?
27:15My ears are wide open.
27:16You just ain't saying nothing.
27:17You asked me what was in the boxes
27:19and I told you lots of things
27:21and then you turn around
27:22and mock me like,
27:23oh, well, that's how that's going to save her.
27:25Right, because that's what's most important.
27:26Yeah, right.
27:27You don't care one bit about her.
27:28You could care less.
27:30No, I don't care a thing about you
27:32because you don't treat me like a human.
27:33You haven't told us one thing
27:34that would help that woman.
27:35I don't care a thing about you
27:36because you don't treat me like a human.
27:37The doctors want to know about her injuries.
27:39They're seeing injuries
27:40and they want to know
27:41what caused the injuries
27:43and they don't know.
27:44I tried to tell you what caused the injuries.
27:46Tell me again.
27:47I don't listen good.
27:48Tell me again.
27:48My ears are open.
27:50No.
27:50Tell me again what caused the injuries.
27:52The mother of your children
27:53is in the hospital
27:54fighting for her life.
27:55She needs somebody to...
27:56I'm not a doctor.
27:57Okay.
27:57And you won't even help.
27:58You won't even say what...
27:59It's like I'm not a cop.
27:59You won't even say what happened.
28:01Saying what happened
28:02ain't going to change nothing
28:03and it ain't going to save her life.
28:05I told you,
28:06check her lungs
28:07and check her head.
28:08What more do you want from me?
28:09I'm not a doctor.
28:10I'm a criminal.
28:12That's how you treat me anyway.
28:14A worthless piece of s*** criminal.
28:16Oh, you've been treated
28:17far from that, Tom.
28:18I'm done talking to you
28:19because you don't do nothing
28:20but treat me like a f***ing fool.
28:23Well, you'll have to think about that.
28:24Well, what?
28:25I'll have to think about it.
28:27You guys have the burden of proof.
28:32You said your mommy
28:33had the wrap on her.
28:34I saw that.
28:35I also saw like
28:36the black and blue marks.
28:37What happened?
28:39Did your daddy cause the bruises?
28:42Yes.
28:42Did he hit her with something
28:44or did he hit...
28:45What did he hit her with?
28:45Part of a BB gun.
28:47Part of a BB gun?
28:48Part of a BB gun.
28:48Where is that BB gun?
28:50Do you know where that is?
28:51I think it's...
28:52Don't touch it.
28:53Don't touch it.
28:53Don't touch it.
28:54I think it's either
28:55over there in the arm.
28:57We'll leave it for the detective.
28:59Don't touch, baby.
28:59Don't touch.
29:00Don't f***ing hurt me.
29:01I need a f***ing over there.
29:02Right now.
29:03Okay.
29:03Right there.
29:03Okay.
29:04Just don't touch it.
29:04When did that...
29:05Was that today?
29:06I think last night.
29:08Last night?
29:09Did you hear mommy fall today, too?
29:10I think so.
29:11I think she was already on the floor.
29:13Right there.
29:13Right here by the couch.
29:20So there's a BB gun in there.
29:22He hit her in the face
29:23with the BB gun.
29:24Is that what...
29:25Who said that?
29:25The kid.
29:26The daughter.
29:28I know last time I was out here...
29:29No.
29:30No, it wasn't two weeks ago
29:31when I was out here.
29:32The time before that
29:33that I was out here,
29:34I gave her a hug.
29:35I was getting ready to leave
29:36and she did...
29:36She was worried in my ear.
29:37Please don't leave.
29:38He's going to tell me.
29:50I can't stand here
29:51and tell you thing
29:52after thing after thing.
29:53Oh, you told me nothing.
29:54Not even one thing.
29:56No, I didn't tell you nothing.
29:57Okay.
29:58Four, 10, so far.
30:01Signal 5, West door was open.
30:04No, I didn't tell you nothing.
30:06I did not tell you nothing.
30:08You'll have a chance
30:09to talk to the detectives, Tom.
30:10You should at least
30:11keep going to the house.
30:16Good evening.
30:19Thomas Grayley
30:19is going to be placed
30:20in a holding cell by himself
30:21until he's interviewed
30:23by a detective.
30:23Okay.
30:24Come on.
30:29Bye, buddy.
30:33Bye.
30:33Thanks for...
30:35It's probably slippery.
30:37Step down slowly.
30:38Step down slowly.
31:00You guys are aware
31:01that Nicole sustains
31:02some pretty severe injuries.
31:04I heard.
31:09I'm just trying to figure out
31:10if this has been
31:11an ongoing issue
31:12with them.
31:14CJ and Nikki fought.
31:16You mean...
31:17You mean...
31:17What do we mean?
31:18I mean,
31:19I've never seen him hit her.
31:21Mm-hmm.
31:23We both know
31:24that he has
31:25macked her.
31:26He's told never again,
31:27don't let us see it,
31:28don't let us hear about it.
31:29But anything like this...
31:33God, we had no clue.
31:35He's a control freak.
31:37He has to be in control
31:39of everybody's life.
31:41You had indicated
31:43that you've been friends
31:44with Thomas Grayley
31:46since elementary school.
31:48Junior high.
31:50Sixth and seventh grade.
31:51I mean,
31:51it sounds like
31:52you were probably
31:53closer...
31:54Than anybody else.
31:56Than anybody else.
31:56I mean,
31:57in all reality.
31:58Which is,
31:58I guess,
31:59why I feel so guilty.
32:00He called me
32:01on the 25th
32:03in the morning
32:03and I went out there
32:04and Nikki was beat up.
32:05And you said
32:06that was the 25th
32:07of October.
32:08Yeah, yeah.
32:08It looked like
32:09she'd been punched
32:09in the f***ing numbers
32:10is what it looked like.
32:11Because right here
32:12was all black and blue
32:13and then I was like,
32:13what the f*** is going on?
32:15Right.
32:15You know,
32:15and then we went outside
32:16because I wasn't going to
32:17stand there and talk
32:18in front of the kids.
32:19He told me,
32:20he punched her.
32:20He told me he punched her.
32:22He told me he did that.
32:50Thomas, my name is Detective Ward.
32:53You have the right to remain silent.
32:54Anything you say can will be used against you in a poor law.
32:57Do you understand your rights?
32:59Yeah.
33:00I tried to be as honest with you as I could yesterday,
33:03and you just pretty much took me for a joke.
33:06No, I didn't take you for a joke.
33:08You took me for a joke.
33:09I asked you to take me in the house,
33:11and I would give you everything I could to help you out.
33:15In exchange for hugging your kids,
33:17you either want to discuss how Nicole sustained her injuries
33:22and how she has bruising all of her body
33:26that's in various stages of healing,
33:30how she ended up with a lacerated spleen.
33:34Sir, I don't want to hurt you with you.
33:36I don't want to give you a hard time.
33:38Okay.
33:39My question to you directly is,
33:40how did Nicole sustain the injuries with you?
33:42And I'm not talking to you about the question.
33:45Okay.
33:46Here's my problem, sir.
33:48This isn't what you've done.
33:49Okay?
33:49Detective, can you listen to me?
33:51No, I'm not going to.
33:52You're talking circles.
33:53I've got a search warrant to collect your DNA.
33:56That's your copy.
33:57Everything that I say or do
33:59will be used against me in court of law.
34:01It doesn't matter what I say or do.
34:04My words are twisted around and...
34:08I don't need to say anything.
34:10Nicole's injuries speak volumes.
34:12Okay.
34:15Sir, I tried to help you.
34:16I told my children I...
34:18You didn't try nothing.
34:19I didn't try nothing.
34:21That's why I tried to give you a box.
34:22This is paperwork, right?
34:23I'm tired of hearing about paperwork.
34:25Unless the box of the paperwork
34:26has to do with the confession
34:28I'm not overly concerned about the box of paperwork.
34:32Can I get some water, please?
34:34Wanna pop?
34:35Please.
34:37Eat that cup so it would be great.
34:39What's that?
34:40Eat that cup.
34:41It would be great.
34:42In a cup?
34:44Can't drink it out of a bottle?
34:48I'm not nervous.
34:50You can have this pop.
34:51I'm not going to run out and give you a cup.
34:55Okay?
34:56I asked you specifically how did Nicole sustain the injuries that she had.
35:00Your response was nothing for a moment.
35:04And then you said,
35:05We've been fighting since June.
35:07We got into a fight tonight.
35:09We showered and then she fell down.
35:11That's what you told me last night.
35:13Unless they're falling from a 10-story building,
35:16somebody's not going to get a lacerated spleen or a liver
35:19and fractures and broken ribs.
35:23If I stand up and fall down right now,
35:25I'm not going to sustain those types of injuries.
35:27You provided no assistance whatsoever
35:31in trying to clarify what happened with Nicole.
35:34Okay?
35:36You say you're a lover,
35:37but your actions say something different.
35:40I'm trying to get some information.
35:43Can we come over?
35:44Simple, please.
35:45What was difficult to understand?
35:48A lot of things are difficult to understand.
35:51All right.
35:51I'm not going to keep going.
35:52You're bouncing around.
35:54I'm not bouncing around.
35:55I'm going to be confused.
35:57Okay.
35:58Can you get your piece of paper and write something for me?
36:00Nope.
36:01Here, let me get your piece of paper and write something, please.
36:04Nope.
36:05I want you to think about it, please.
36:08What do you want me to write?
36:10I don't know.
36:11I was going to have to take a second to think about it.
36:15Okay.
36:15All right.
36:16You got...
36:18It's 10...
36:1910-19 right now.
36:21You got...
36:22I'm sorry.
36:22It's 10-20.
36:23You got the 10-25 to start making sense,
36:26or else this interview's...
36:34I've been with Nicole for a little over 10 years.
36:37I cannot make sense of what is going on myself.
36:42Why can't you...
36:43Especially in five minutes.
36:44Why can't you make sense of what's going on?
36:48Because Nicole has lied to me and manipulated me and made me forget portions of my life.
37:00I was going to try to help you.
37:02You're saying that she manipulated you and lied to you.
37:05Is that when you kick her ass?
37:11Or did she kick her own ass?
37:13I think you're...
37:14Or did she kick her own ass?
37:15Because I will be asking...
37:17You can say whatever you want to say.
37:19Her injuries tell a different story.
37:22Her injuries speak volumes.
37:24Okay.
37:25But I don't understand what she meant by that.
37:26You don't seem to understand much of anything.
37:29You're not going to control this interview like you've controlled Nicole.
37:36Sir, I have been honest with you as I can.
37:39Do you have it?
37:39Yes, I have.
37:40I told you I can't even understand 10 years of my life.
37:42How do I make you understand in five minutes?
37:45I don't understand 10 years of my life.
37:48How do I make you understand in five minutes?
37:51I'm done talking to you.
37:52I'm done.
37:52I'm done.
38:09New developments now.
38:10A woman violently beaten to death.
38:13Deputies believe her killer is the one who actually called for help.
38:17A woman is now dead and police believe this man, Thomas Grayley Jr., had something to do with it.
38:23Grayley is now sitting in the county jail.
38:25He was in court on Wednesday and is facing felonious assault charges.
38:29Murder charges will probably be coming next for him.
38:38Hello, this is a free call from Thomas Grayley.
38:42An incarcerated individual at Ashtabula County Jail.
38:45This call is subject to recording and monitoring.
38:52How are you?
38:54They offered me 30 to life.
38:55Oh, did they?
38:56I'd be 68 years old after 30 years.
39:00So you're going to trial then, right?
39:02That's why some of the investigators are starting to investigate.
39:05All I'm going to say is you don't want them digging through your stuff.
39:10I don't know what you're talking about.
39:12There's some things in there that nobody should see.
39:16Like what?
39:18Stuff that you wrote.
39:19Just not good stuff.
39:22Everybody clearly knows that I put my hands on Nikki.
39:25But nothing says that I beat the **** out of her.
39:29You're not stupid.
39:31Okay, well, they're going there.
39:34Like it or not, they're going there.
39:36So I guess you need to clean.
39:41They only planned a certain amount of time to prosecute you to bring me to trial.
39:45But they're going there.
39:47So whatever you're so worried about everybody, you can get it the **** on.
39:51Yeah, well, there's a burn call there.
39:54We'll have a big fire.
40:11To everyone, here it is for the world to see.
40:19I have done ****.
40:21That's no good.
40:26Not a **** bit.
40:28You see, I touched Nicole a little bit with some cigarettes.
40:33Because I was trying to get Nicole to answer some basic questions about what's going on here.
40:40And she wouldn't say nothing to me.
40:43And I try to talk to her.
40:46And I try to love her.
40:48And I try to explain it.
40:50I just want to be 100% transparent.
40:53Because I think she's trying to set me the **** up.
40:57That even though she looks like she does, I'm trying to explain to her that there's a judgment coming.
41:06And if she thinks this is bad, wait until she gets to judgment.
41:13Because I want to make it very **** clear.
41:16This is my boat.
41:18And I run this ****.
41:20And I just want to make it clear that I don't beat on Nicole.
41:23I don't beat on Nicole at all.
41:26I teach Nicole hard lessons out of love.
41:46I appreciate you meeting with me.
41:48I appreciate you meeting with us.
41:50So my whole goal of all this is to try to keep you informed as much as I can.
41:55If there's anything that you want to talk about, feel free.
41:58I haven't seen Nicole for five years.
42:01Or the kids.
42:02They were coming around and visiting us.
42:05And, you know, we were seeing the kids.
42:07And then our son became a police officer.
42:10Tom paid police officers.
42:12So they weren't allowed to come around with us anymore.
42:15You've got to understand, we never abandoned our daughter.
42:18I think he brainwashed her and the kids.
42:21The kids for sure.
42:22Now do you talk to this monster?
42:24There's any way that he can find out that we have the kids.
42:28And they're going to grow up to be police officers.
42:31I want him to know that because anything will ease him more than anything in that jail.
42:35I want him to know about those things.
42:40And now I want him to be.
42:40I want him to feel with my.ข
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