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Crime in Progress - Season 1 - Episode 06: Kidnapper's House/ Mother's Nightmare
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00:16Hey, 3532 had someone come up to his door knocking on it, advising that they need officer assistance with the
00:24possible kidnapping and murder.
00:57You guys on the way, you guys need more personnel down there?
01:00We got several cars arriving, we should be okay.
01:03Take place as advising, please cut your sirens.
01:09All the way to the south, so somebody can get to the west.
01:15I'm pulling up on Glendale, man.
01:17That's that white one on the corner.
01:23We need cars on the west side of the house.
01:26That's affirmative.
01:36Okay.
01:36Recording.
01:37Dispatch recording.
01:40What's your name?
01:42My name's Cynthia.
01:44Cynthia?
01:45Okay.
01:46So, who are the people inside the house?
01:51Heidi.
01:53Heidi Hammond is her name.
01:55Heidi Hammond is that bitch's name.
01:59He's boyfriend named Carrie.
02:01He's the one that was the aggressor.
02:03He's the one that had the gun.
02:04He's the one that had the baseball bat.
02:06Well, I'm just, I want you to, I want you to tell me what happened.
02:10Heidi brought me over here to help her clean her house.
02:12And then Carrie invited me to the back room to sit down and eat.
02:16When I was sitting down, I just seen the kid's body.
02:21Where was the body located at?
02:24It was in the couch.
02:25Like, oh, there you go.
02:26But you tried this in the very back seat.
02:28Just relax, okay?
02:29We'll figure this out, all right?
02:31Like, after I found the body, they started freaking out, telling me I had to stay.
02:35And he told me I had to sit completely naked.
02:38And he took a baseball bat and put it in my face.
02:40And I said, I'm not.
02:41And I went out there.
02:45Okay.
02:47Hey, guys, the female I have here said that, uh...
02:50There's a subject in there named Carrie that threatened her with a bat,
02:53but he does have a gun inside the house.
02:55All right, just stand up for me real quick.
02:57Put your, put the cigarette out of him.
03:00Okay, just block off these roads.
03:01We got cars rolling through.
03:03We have a block off over here.
03:08Make sure somebody's walking the bat.
03:10They're walking the bat.
03:12We have cars on there.
03:13We got like...
03:13Someone watch in the back of that house.
03:14Coming up behind you guys.
03:19Tanks cut here.
03:20Behind you there, you're good.
03:22We shouldn't watch this in the heli.
03:25Uh...
03:25Don't go around the James side.
03:27We're watching the house on this side right now.
03:30I've got eyes on the back.
03:32Harris, if you can throw your spotlight or your area light on, on that.
03:36Harris is going to be on the PA.
03:38You've got to call him out.
03:40If you're in 1801, come to the door now.
03:47Anyone in 1801, come to the door now.
03:54Come on out to the front door now.
03:57Would you hear him?
04:00He called.
04:05There is a van sitting out on the side of the house.
04:08Put this light on right now.
04:10Okay.
04:11There's someone in that van.
04:14Anybody have eyes on that on the other side?
04:16Yep.
04:17I've got eyes on the back.
04:18And I've got eyes on this lady.
04:21Get out of the van now.
04:27I get it.
04:29Hey.
04:30Walk towards them over here.
04:33Call her to you guys.
04:33I'm a one man.
04:36I got you, Oxford.
04:38I'm down here.
04:39Hey.
04:42Yeah.
04:43Hey, guys.
04:43Watch crossfire.
04:47Ma'am, walk over here to them.
04:48Get out of the van and come to me.
04:50Walk towards them.
04:54Walk towards the back of your van.
04:57Come to me.
04:59Come to me.
05:09Turn around.
05:13Are you having me up?
05:15For a moment, yeah.
05:16I don't know.
05:16What's going on?
05:18What's your name?
05:19Heidi.
05:21Oh, God.
05:22Heidi what?
05:22Carter.
05:23Please, can I have something to drink?
05:25Not right now.
05:26I've got this girl in Coastal.
05:28Who else is in that van?
05:29Nobody.
05:30So who's the guy in there?
05:34Oh, my God.
05:35Oh, my God.
05:37He's...
05:37Talk to me.
05:38Carrie.
05:38I've got...
05:38Carrie what?
05:40He's...
05:41Carrie Hammond.
05:43Look.
05:43Carrie Hammond?
05:44Yes, he's been terrorizing me.
05:47Like, nonstop.
05:48I can't get...
05:48Just relax.
05:49Is anybody hurt in that house?
05:51Yes.
05:52Who?
05:52Who?
05:53Who?
05:53I'm trying to...
05:54I'm hurting.
05:55Who is hurt?
05:55Is somebody hurt in that house?
05:56Yes.
05:57Who?
05:58Two people?
05:59It's sick.
05:59It's the f***ing sick.
06:00Yes.
06:01Is somebody dead in that house?
06:02Yes.
06:06I need to get away from you.
06:07She's saying somebody's dead in the house.
06:08Okay, listen to me for a second.
06:09Take a breath.
06:10Take a breath.
06:10I need to know who is in that house.
06:13There is...
06:14Alive.
06:15Yes.
06:16Well, I don't know now, but...
06:17Um...
06:18Try to get names.
06:19Um, I...
06:20Amanda.
06:21She's being...
06:22Can you get out of here?
06:23You break your face.
06:24He killed Amanda?
06:25I don't know.
06:26He was trying to...
06:27No, she was alive when...
06:29Just a minute ago, okay?
06:31He hit her...
06:32She's like, foot of the bed.
06:33He's like, um...
06:34Snackles and s***.
06:35And I'm holding her.
06:36Because he's trying to make her strip down.
06:37And I'm holding her.
06:38And I'm trying to take care of the one...
06:40He killed her boyfriend.
06:42In front of her.
06:43In that house?
06:44Yes.
06:45He killed Amanda's boyfriend?
06:46Yes.
06:47I don't know his...
06:48Um, Tim.
06:49Tim, I think.
06:51It's so f***ed up.
06:53Did you guys hear me crying?
06:54Or is there somebody calling because I was crying?
06:59So, listen to me.
07:01Listen to me.
07:02Look at me.
07:03Carrie killed Amanda's boyfriend.
07:05Yes.
07:05How?
07:06He said, um...
07:07With his bare hands.
07:08Oh, so you didn't actually see it?
07:09No, I didn't see it.
07:09Did you see a body?
07:10Yes, there's a body in there.
07:12Of the boyfriend?
07:15Yes.
07:16He can turn a body.
07:17And a blanket.
07:20This girl's saying that Carrie Hammonds killed a girl named Amanda's boyfriend.
07:25Oh, my God.
07:25And the boyfriend is inside the house, Tim.
07:33Just get on the PA.
07:36Just...
07:36Hey.
07:39Anyone in 18-1 on Stenson come to the door now.
07:41That's all I want.
07:42That's all I want.
07:45No.
07:47Hey, if there's a possibility he's got a gun...
07:54Harris, if you can throw your stereo lights on on that.
08:00If you are in 18-01, Stenson, come to the door now.
08:08Hey, you guys on the southeast there.
08:10If they come out, are you calling to you?
08:12Okay.
08:13Anybody in 18-01, come to the front door with your hands, Michael, now.
08:18Come on out.
08:21Come on out to the front door now.
08:24With your hands up.
08:28Come out of the house.
08:29Come out now.
08:30Get out of here now.
08:32He keeps reaching out to the right of the door, though.
08:35Yeah.
08:35Hey, you want to move up and cover your guy on the PA?
08:37There's a possibility he's got a gun.
09:04He's got something in his hands.
09:06Hands up!
09:11Whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey, stop, stop.
09:14Don't shoot back there.
09:15Everybody, everybody, relax, everybody, relax.
09:17Yeah, we're good.
09:20Everybody hold.
09:23Everybody hold.
09:24Everybody hold.
09:26Do not move.
09:28Do not reach, sir.
09:29Do not reach.
09:31Do not reach.
09:34All right, how far are you with the Bearcat?
09:39I'm heading your way.
09:41It is on the perimeter.
09:42When I get the Bearcat here, we're going to get some guys with armor.
09:45We're going to go up and check them that way.
09:47Everybody else just hold.
09:52Everybody check in.
09:53All right, if you're rolling that Bearcat, bring it straight down Simpson from Broadway.
09:58Somebody, hey, can anybody, can anybody see on that side?
10:02Can you see him?
10:03Here.
10:04Keep an eye on him.
10:05You got him, Oxford?
10:07I got him.
10:08All right.
10:08All right.
10:10Oxford, cover the windows.
10:11Got it.
10:13Hey, get somebody to secure him.
10:15Guys, I'll go contact.
10:18And then watch, and then everybody else cover the door.
10:21Ready?
10:21Go.
10:22Go, go, go, go, go.
10:23Watch your door open.
10:27Over your shoulder, over your shoulder.
10:28I got doors.
10:33You good?
10:35Let's move up on the door.
10:38Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
10:41Yep.
10:42Okay.
10:43I need a couple more.
10:47Okay.
10:48Police department, you're in the house.
10:51Be known.
10:53Are you good?
10:54Ready?
10:56Last.
11:01Got a long haul, multiple doors.
11:04Great.
11:06Go, go, go.
11:07I got the long haul.
11:09Watch your closet.
11:10Watch your closet.
11:13We're clearing the house.
11:16Okay, you got one, too.
11:18Okay.
11:18Clear.
11:19Coming out.
11:20I'm a long haul.
11:22Bedroom right here.
11:24Stairs to the right.
11:26Coming up behind you guys.
11:27Coming out.
11:29Got one more dog right here.
11:30All right.
11:31All right.
11:31Police department, if you're upstairs, make yourself down now.
11:35On you.
11:36Ready?
11:36Go, Brian.
11:37Hey, one more.
11:46You got a long haul?
11:47Yeah, I got a long.
11:48I got a long.
11:49Go, D.
11:50Go, go, go, go.
11:51In cover, cover, cover, cover, cover.
11:54Need one.
11:55Need one.
11:56In there, in there, in there.
11:58Good.
12:00Back, dogs.
12:01Right there.
12:02Hold on.
12:02We got another room back here.
12:05Stay inside there.
12:06Stay back.
12:09Get back.
12:15Ma'am?
12:16Ma'am?
12:17You need to get up?
12:18I need an officer.
12:20Go, go, go, go.
12:21Go, go, go, go.
12:23Where you at?
12:23Where you at?
12:23Where you at?
12:24Back here.
12:24Back here.
12:25I got a female down and I got blood.
12:32Back up.
12:34Hey, you got any weapons?
12:36Okay.
12:36Hey, I need you to come.
12:38Thank you, boy.
12:41Okay.
12:42Come to me.
12:42No weapons, correct?
12:44Okay.
12:45What's your name?
12:46Amanda.
12:47Amanda?
12:48Okay, Amanda.
12:48I got blood on you.
12:49He beat me with a baseball bat.
12:51Who did?
12:53Who beat you with a baseball bat?
12:55What's his name?
12:55I don't know.
12:56Okay.
12:57Okay.
12:59Come here.
13:00Come here.
13:01Come here.
13:03He's coming to me.
13:06Guys, we're coming out.
13:08We need to get her out of the house.
13:09He's been hitting the head with baseball bat.
13:11There's a hammer on the way.
13:13Yeah.
13:14Good one.
13:16I got you.
13:17Okay.
13:18Keep walking.
13:19Keep walking.
13:20Not that one.
13:21Let him know he's coming out.
13:22We got a deputy coming out with a female.
13:25She's got a head injury.
13:27He's coming out the front door to house.
13:29Lukey, tell them we're coming out the front.
13:31Guys, we're coming out the front with a female.
13:32We're coming out the front with a female.
13:35Come back here.
13:36Keep coming.
13:37Keep coming.
13:38He killed my boyfriend.
13:41Who's your boyfriend?
13:42He killed my baby.
13:44Okay.
13:45Come back here.
13:46Come back here.
13:59Keep coming.
13:59We're going to sit back here by the street.
14:04My female back here is saying that the body is in the back bedroom on the left-hand side,
14:08covered up with a bunch of clothes and blankets.
14:10We need to check this blanket here.
14:14Guard your team?
14:16Yep.
14:16Supposedly a body under all this.
14:18Okay.
14:19You want to just kind of pull the covers back on body cam here?
14:28Yep.
14:29We got a body.
14:32Oh, duct tape?
14:33Yep.
14:36Now, now.
14:37Looks like it.
15:01We have officers that are available that can transport civilian witnesses to headquarters.
15:09Can you do it, sir?
15:10Yeah, for sure.
15:13Hey, girl.
15:14Got anything on?
15:15You just going to stick and poke me here anyway, shape or form.
15:17Anything?
15:18Hey, let me finish.
15:19Anything I need to know about before I find it?
15:25You don't have any on you currently?
15:28I don't know when I don't know what.
15:29Okay.
15:30Okay.
15:31Go ahead.
15:31We're going to stand up.
15:32My arms are hurt.
15:33You're okay.
15:34Ready?
15:35One, two, three.
15:38Hang tight right here.
15:39Is everybody dead?
15:40No.
15:41Hang tight right here.
15:42How do you do?
15:44What's in your pants?
15:46Is there a gun in your pants?
15:55It has been added to AMR 535-0525.
15:59Around 11 p.m., Evansville police officers were dispatched for a possible kidnapping and murder.
16:05An adult female victim was still on scene and told officers that she went to the residence to visit with
16:10Heidi Carter.
16:11She saw a dead body and ran out of the home to get help.
16:15Officers located 36-year-old Heidi Carter outside of the home near a vehicle.
16:22What's in your pants?
16:23Is there a gun in your pants?
16:25Can I maybe get a gun?
16:26Don't move.
16:32Don't move.
16:33One of the females over here has a fire on her.
16:37Let's get one of the females with a fire on her.
16:40Yep.
16:44Quit moving.
16:49Yeah, it's loaded.
16:51It's not my gun.
16:53Over here, I miss you.
16:56Don't move.
16:58What are you on here on west?
17:00Are you able to transport?
17:03Yeah.
17:05Okay.
17:06A male rushed out of the front door in an aggressive manner, and several officers fired at the suspect to
17:12stop the perceived threat.
17:14The suspect was pronounced dead on scene.
17:16Once officers cleared the home, officers located an adult female victim who had been tied up, shackled, and had visible
17:25injuries.
17:25Another individual was located inside the residence, but unfortunately was deceased and beyond help.
17:32He had been restrained, duct-taped, beaten, and strangled.
17:37The manner of death will be released by the Vandenberg County Coroner's Office at a later time.
17:44All right.
17:45Just hang on.
17:46We'll get it all sorted out.
18:13All right.
18:20We'll get it all sorted out.
18:21Right over here.
18:32Right here.
18:38It's Wednesday morning now.
18:40I want to go back about 24 hours, maybe a little more, and I want you to kind of walk
18:46me through what your day was like.
18:48Um, Carrie pushed me to, you know, just, like, randomly find a woman that, um, we could hook up with.
18:56Right.
18:56So, I do that, and I talk to, um, this chick that says, Amanda, well, she has a boyfriend, okay,
19:03and she was wanting to come over and have her boyfriend come with.
19:06I told Carrie, and he, he said no.
19:08So, that didn't happen.
19:09Well, then, fast forward, Monday, I don't think I've seen him Monday evening.
19:13Amanda said something about coming over, and I did make a comment.
19:17I said, um, your boyfriend's going to watch or something.
19:20And what happened once they got there?
19:22Did anything, like, sexual happen?
19:25Mm-hmm.
19:26Okay.
19:26Did anybody else come in?
19:28What happened when Carrie showed up?
19:30Um, he was very mad.
19:32He was arguing and stuff, and, um, he just wasn't comfortable with another man being there and everything.
19:38Mm-hmm.
19:39He had hit him, he had hit her, and he, uh, punched him, and he grabbed him with their hand.
19:46And, um, did he ever do anything to her?
19:50Yeah.
19:50What did he do to her?
19:52Oh, he did sexual things to her.
19:53Um, he, he hit her, um.
19:57Did you call 911?
19:59I couldn't call 911.
20:01I couldn't be the one that could, that standoff shit happened or.
20:04Why didn't you call 911?
20:05Because I call 911, I'm the reason why the cops come, and I'm the reason why he ends up killing
20:09everybody in the house.
20:10Like, I, he, he wanted, so, like, so.
20:14I don't know, I was, I was wrong, with the wrong, with the wrong.
20:16He's beaten and tied up and raped a girl in front of you.
20:19Yes.
20:19You didn't think to call 911?
20:23Oh, I can't, um, can I help you stay?
20:29Because I'm, there's, I don't even know if they're shot, you don't.
20:33I understand.
20:36So what happened with Cynthia?
20:38Did she help you guys clean?
20:39Yeah.
20:40In the house?
20:41Yeah.
20:41Did you ever tell her she couldn't leave?
20:43No, I never told her that.
20:44Mm-hmm.
20:44I mean, I, I.
20:48Okay.
20:49Give me just a minute, I'll be right back, okay?
20:50Okay.
20:52You need to use the bathroom or anything?
20:54Yeah, actually.
20:55Okay, hang tight for just a second.
20:56Okay.
20:58Okay.
21:09I, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to me.
21:13Um, so, Heidi's there, Carrie's there, hits Tim with the bat, hits you with the bat, restrains you.
21:22Okay, well, what happened after that?
21:24He raped me, and he was there, too.
21:27She wasn't touching me, but she was there and encouraging him.
21:31And then he would come in and he would hold a gun up to me.
21:35What happened after that?
21:36Yeah.
21:36Um, Carrie came in, and he started to rub the belt around his neck, and Carrie stood there,
21:42and he just, he kept holding it, and he was like, did you think you guys were going to get
21:46out of this?
21:49They told us the entire time that that's what they were doing.
21:52They were going to kill us.
21:53Well, what happened after that?
21:55I woke up at some point, and he was wrapped up in a blanket, but they pulled him out, but
22:02I don't know where they were taking him.
22:04Okay.
22:05Who moved him?
22:06Carrie and Heidi.
22:09Well, uh, Amanda, I'm sorry if I had to go through all this.
22:13Um, uh, Carrie did not survive, so.
22:19Okay.
22:20And we're going to make sure that the people are held accountable, okay?
22:30I'm back.
22:31Hi.
22:31Can you see her?
22:32Yeah.
22:33Okay, good.
22:34Good.
22:35Are we okay to keep talking?
22:36Um, yeah.
22:38So there's some things that Amanda told me at the hospital that don't exactly line up with what you're telling
22:45me.
22:46Uh, like, you helped restrain her.
22:50You helped tape up Tim.
22:53Uh, you encouraged him while he was raping her.
22:56I encouraged him?
22:57That you hadn't done it in that room and made threats to both of them to kill them both.
23:12I think, uh, the way she tells it, you were a lot more involved in what you're telling me here.
23:20I'm a, I'm a lot more involved?
23:22Like, like, how would I be a lot more involved?
23:24I have two shirts now.
23:26Can I take this one off?
23:27Nice.
23:28You need to.
23:28Nice.
23:29Um.
23:33Ultimately, you did nothing to help them.
23:36In the beginning, I mean, because he even said, because I didn't, I did nothing to help him?
23:41Okay, so, okay.
23:43You could have done a million different things to get help.
23:45What are you saying?
23:45I did the same s*** as him?
23:47I'm, what are you saying?
23:48Yeah.
23:49For the crimes that took place in your house.
23:51Oh, my God.
23:52You are just as much as responsible as he is.
23:55Absolutely.
23:58All right.
23:59Well, I'm gonna go for now.
24:02Okay.
24:02I haven't talked to the prosecutor, but there'll be charges stemming from what happened in your house.
24:12Heidi Carter was arrested and booked for the following charges.
24:15Murder.
24:17Rape.
24:18Two counts of felony criminal confinement.
24:21Assisting a criminal.
24:22Carrying a handgun without a license.
24:24And abuse of a corpse.
24:48She needed to pay for her part in it because she was acting like she was a victim.
24:54And Tim was the victim.
24:56He fought like hell.
24:58He fought to the last breath.
25:08And now that that trial is finally over, CB tells me she's grateful for the chance to reconnect
25:15with her now 19-year-old daughter who's been by her side during this recovery process.
25:25I caused lax towing.
25:32He, uh, is an inexperienced driver.
25:36Okay.
25:37Oh, yep.
25:40Yep.
25:46And he stopped.
25:47He put his car here on the angle.
25:49And he got out.
25:50And my two-footer was out.
25:52He went to get back in.
25:55He wasn't able because of being able to pull it out.
25:58I don't know.
25:59He's right there.
25:59Okay.
26:00He'll talk.
26:00Hey, partner.
26:01You want to talk to me real quick?
26:02Sure.
26:03I mean, I'm really cold.
26:04Is it okay if it's in here?
26:06Because it's fine.
26:08Oh, that's fine.
26:09I did not know that.
26:10No, please stay in the car.
26:13All right?
26:14Nobody else in the car?
26:15No.
26:16Okay.
26:16Just us.
26:16I'm the father.
26:17That's the mother.
26:17This is my son.
26:18He just got 20 minutes ago and said, Dad, I parked through the boat ramp and I messed up.
26:22I tried to get out of the car and slid down.
26:24Well, you're not hurt, right?
26:25You're okay?
26:25No, just a little cold is all.
26:27Thankfully.
26:28What were you doing down here, bud?
26:29Well, I felt like I needed to get out.
26:31Okay.
26:32And I figured, why not park here and just...
26:35Just relax a little bit?
26:36Just relax and think.
26:38Okay.
26:38And I parked on the boat ramp and I thought it would be easy to get out.
26:41Uh-huh.
26:41But yeah, then...
26:43Okay.
26:43Yeah, then it slid into the river.
26:45I was able to get out.
26:47We've called so many killing companies and nobody can help us.
26:51And then one of them said, just call the state police.
26:53We'll help you out.
26:53We called this, man.
26:54Just see how we're going to handle this, man.
26:57Sorry?
26:57Is he free to go?
26:59I'm sure he'd like to go home and get warm.
27:00Yeah, it's not a crash.
27:02It's...
27:03Okay.
27:03This is stupid.
27:04No.
27:05So, you can do that going.
27:07All right.
27:07I'm going to take him home then and then we'll come back.
27:29I have a quick question for you.
27:31Sure.
27:32It's a back bumper.
27:33I don't know.
27:33You can probably see it from here.
27:36It's a lot of red on the back of that.
27:40Yeah.
27:41Drip it down at all a little bit.
27:43Underneath the license plate.
27:46A little area right there.
27:47Okay.
27:48Okay.
27:48A lot of red.
27:51See?
27:51Looks like blood.
27:54Blood?
27:55Yeah.
27:56I don't know if your son hurt himself on his way out at all.
27:59He might have.
28:00He just didn't know it.
28:01I don't know.
28:02That's why I'm asking.
28:03That's a good question.
28:03He's at home.
28:04Is he making sure he's not got a cut or...
28:06He said he's going to bed.
28:07Get something out on him somewhere that he's not aware of.
28:09Maybe because his adrenaline was a little high.
28:12Maybe just have him do like a self-check.
28:14Make sure he's okay.
28:17Hello?
28:18Brian, are you okay?
28:20They see blood on the back bumper of the vehicle.
28:24Really?
28:25Yeah.
28:26Did you get hurt?
28:31No, I'm fine.
28:33There's blood on it?
28:42I'm going to move my car.
28:45I'm going to warm up while he works.
28:50Yeah.
28:50That's what I was thinking.
28:51I'm going to go sit in my car.
29:02911 is John.
29:03What's the address of the emergency?
29:04Hi, there's an emergency.
29:06I found something in my son's closet wrapped in a chocolate bag.
29:13Okay.
29:14What was it?
29:14I think it's a human tooth.
29:20It's a what?
29:21I think it's a human head.
29:23Why do you think it's that?
29:25Because it looks like it's on ear.
29:28Is it all bloody or anything like that?
29:31I just need to come.
29:33Don't do my heart.
29:56Can you walk me inside?
29:57Let me do it.
29:58Let's sit down.
29:58Come on.
29:58Sit down, please.
30:00Can I go in there and verify here first?
30:02Oh, yeah, please.
30:03We haven't seen it yet.
30:04We haven't.
30:04It's under the towel.
30:05Okay.
30:12Stay with you, Mother.
30:12Get up, love.
30:17I can sit there.
30:17You can go in this area, right?
30:19Uh, well, just...
30:20Sit right there.
30:21No, no, no.
30:21Yeah?
30:22I'll send it.
30:23Okay.
30:25I had a bad feeling about what's happened this weekend.
30:27Okay.
30:27She said there's a bag in this closet, and she opened it up.
30:31And she called me and said, get over here right now.
30:37I caught her with a towel.
30:39Okay.
30:39Let her see it, because we didn't want him to run.
30:42I don't want to look at it.
30:47That one's a thing.
30:49Yeah.
30:55That one's a thing.
31:0522, 42, are you clear for a call?
31:08Yeah, you might want to call investigations.
31:10The head's in the sink.
31:12What's that?
31:13Does it sound by my voice that it looks real?
31:17It is.
31:20There's no denying that.
31:23My son reached out to another.
31:27He left Friday night, late in the morning.
31:30Our phone rings at my house.
31:33Dad, this is Brian.
31:34My son, Brian.
31:35Same name, same birthday.
31:37My first one.
31:39My car's stuck in the river.
31:41Wait, wait, wait, what?
31:42So we go there, and he gives us a song and dance.
31:44How it was a full moon.
31:45He wanted to pull down a little water.
31:47And next thing you know, since it's a one-wheel drive, we tried to put it in reverse, and
31:50the car starts sliding, and next thing you know, he ended up in a roof.
31:53So we get there to pick him up.
31:54We call the police.
31:56So they called a tow truck company.
31:57Where's the car?
31:58Saw blood all over.
31:59Where's the car?
31:59Where is the car?
32:00So we towed it to Scottie's to see if they could fix it.
32:03So I called Scottie's and said, don't touch it.
32:04I already called him and said, don't touch it.
32:06Nothing was taken out of the vehicle?
32:07Yes, I did.
32:08What did you take out of the vehicle?
32:09I cleaned it up.
32:10So I put out bottles of this, and I'm like, Brian, why is there only a little bottle?
32:15Dad, I don't feel safe.
32:16There's a wallet in the car.
32:17And I'm like, Brian, whose wallet?
32:18Oh, I found just a boat lamp.
32:20Um, everything.
32:22Incriminating stuff.
32:23You know where that stuff is.
32:24Yes, it's all at the house.
32:27Yeah, it should be a green passenger car.
32:29His car should be at Scottie's, and it should be a green passenger car.
32:33Okay, we'll work on that now.
32:36I can't believe it.
32:41Oh, my God.
32:42It's kind of a time to not really know what to do, so.
32:47It ran them, too.
32:48I don't get it.
32:50I don't have any answers.
32:51How old is Brian?
32:52He's 19.
32:53He's 19.
32:54Yeah.
32:58Mom, what's your name?
32:59My name is Terry.
33:00Terry?
33:01Okay, are you okay?
33:01Do you need anything medical?
33:03But we're waiting on a call from my doctor.
33:05Okay, okay.
33:06So, like I said, we've got an investigation unit that's going to come here.
33:09So, just, I know you guys have a lot going on right now.
33:12It's a lot to process, so we'll work with you every step of the way as much as we can.
33:17All right, so hang tight right here.
33:19I get to chat with my partners again, okay?
33:23Okay.
33:24Okay.
33:41What's going on, man?
33:45What's going on, man?
33:47Okay.
33:48So, parents have some concerns of some stuff they may have found in your room?
33:52Um, yeah, I believe so.
33:55And what would it be?
33:59A human head and hands.
34:04Like, for real human head and hands?
34:07Yes.
34:08From?
34:09That fellow who went missing recently.
34:12Which fellow was that?
34:13Warren Brown.
34:14When did he go missing?
34:17The night of the 27th.
34:21Okay.
34:21And how did you end up with him?
34:24I murdered him.
34:25With what?
34:27A knife.
34:28Okay.
34:28Do you have anything on you?
34:29He's going to cut, poke, hurt, stigma, anything without reaching for nothing?
34:32Don't reach for nothing.
34:33My phone and my wallet.
34:34That's it.
34:35Well, I'm going to have you face that way.
34:36Put your hands on top of your head for me real quick.
34:37I just want to make sure you know that interlates your fingers for me real quick, all right?
34:39Go ahead.
34:43Okay.
34:43Where's the rest of his body at?
34:46Huh?
34:47Where's the rest of the body at?
34:48What parts?
34:50The body, Brian.
34:50Where's his body?
34:51Down the river.
34:53Okay.
34:54I'm going to have you walk over here.
34:55You're going to sit in the back of my partner's control bar for a minute, okay?
34:58Just sit back there and hang out for me, okay?
34:59How are you?
35:00I'm good, sir.
35:00How are you?
35:01Can you say your name is Brian?
35:02Yeah.
35:03I'm not feeling too well.
35:04You're not feeling too well?
35:05All right.
35:05Well, these past few days, I've been very, very anxious.
35:08That's understandable.
35:09What we're going to have you do here is I'm just going to have you sit in the back here,
35:12okay?
35:12Uh-huh.
35:12I'm going to turn on the air for you in a second.
35:15That way you're not too hot.
35:16Are you a hot-blooded or cold-blooded kind of guy?
35:18I am very cold-blooded.
35:20I prefer cold.
35:21Well, no.
35:21Actually, sorry.
35:22Hot-blooded.
35:23Hot-blooded.
35:23So you prefer the cold.
35:24Okay, fantastic.
35:25All right.
35:26So hop in here.
35:26I know you're tall, so it's a little bit of a tight squeeze, but like I said, I'll give
35:29that air in for you.
35:30I'm sorry about that.
35:31All right.
35:33Okay.
35:33So I'm going to have investigators come out here to talk and do everything.
35:38We'll keep everybody out of the house so I can just secure the house because we'll have
35:42to do a search warrant and all that stuff, okay?
35:44All right.
35:44Okay.
35:45Can I go in and get my things?
35:47Like my hair dryer and my deodorant?
35:50Not for right now.
35:52We're just going to leave it the way it is.
35:55I'm having the suspect head to the sheriff's office now.
35:58Just take him down to investigations.
36:03All right, Brian.
36:06We're headed to the sheriff's office.
36:12Okay, Brian.
36:15No problem, sir.
36:16There's no problem.
36:24So have a seat and we'll be with you in a moment, okay?
36:27Okay.
36:27Thanks, Brian.
36:36This is Lisa.
36:37Hi.
36:38How are you?
36:39I'm okay.
36:40Good day.
36:41Everybody's good.
36:42Just okay.
36:43Okay.
36:43Can you straighten me your seats?
36:46Oh, this is a special chair, right?
36:50No, this is a special chair because it's softer, right?
36:53So we haven't ever met, have we?
36:55No.
36:56Okay.
36:56And how did you get here?
36:57So, because, I mean, Murray's going to jail for this 15 years, probably.
37:04Well, I figured, oh, I fight it.
37:06Okay.
37:06Um, let's see.
37:08Yeah, it was the night of February 27th.
37:12It was a full moon.
37:15I'm cruising around and eventually driving underneath the bridge near the sheriff's office.
37:22I'm like, have...
37:24Can I?
37:24Oh, yeah.
37:25Go help me.
37:32So, let's just say this is the office, right?
37:35Take a turn, and here is the bridge.
37:39And it was right here.
37:42And I was driving along, and I see a shape here on the railway truck wrapped in a canvas.
37:49So, I'm like, oh, interesting.
37:53That's a homeless person.
37:55So, I grabbed my knife, and I took the knife, I pulled back the canvas, and I stabbed his neck.
38:02And I said, I've been wanting to do this for a long time.
38:08And when I was finished stabbing him, he took out his last breath, a grunt.
38:14And then, and then, and then I cut off his head, and I took the head, and I took the
38:19head, put it in a leftover pizza box for the dinner a few nights ago.
38:24I cut off his hands, and then I cut off his right arm, threw it out, and then I took
38:35the left armpit, threw it out.
38:37It's somewhere around the bridge.
38:39Yeah.
38:40Yeah.
38:40They're still there.
38:41There were all the blood is.
38:44Were you worried about, like, leaving evidence behind or getting caught?
38:48Totally.
38:49Tell me about that and what you did there.
38:51I'm going to try going to sleep, but I was worried.
38:54I decided that's too much evidence.
38:57The body needs to be dumped in a river.
39:00Okay.
39:00But God knows where he is now.
39:03So keep an eye out for any river related activity.
39:06Okay.
39:35Yeah.
39:37It's right here.
39:39What do you see?
39:39Yeah.
39:41Because there's an arm.
39:43There's an arm, there's another arm.
39:46Okay.
39:47Do some pictures.
39:50Right, here's a leg.
39:53Well, it could be the upper arm or a leg.
39:55Well, there's three.
39:57There, there, and there.
39:59Yellow tape it and then hold it.
40:02Because the potential is that there's a secondary by the boat launch.
40:07If we can get the lab out here, that would be the best thing.
40:10Yeah.
40:11Get forensics out here.
40:14Holy hell.
40:15Yeah.
40:15Well, it's up.
40:27You know, Brian, I have to ask.
40:28I think you've answered it, but I'm not 100% sure.
40:31You said you've thought about doing this.
40:34Yeah.
40:34Yeah.
40:36Have you ever done it before?
40:38No.
40:38No.
40:39Okay.
40:40You've got to ask, right?
40:41Yeah.
40:42I'm not a serial killer by no means.
40:46I'm very curious.
40:48How do you feel about all this now?
40:53I mean, the next 15 years of my life, book set in stone, prison.
41:01Um.
41:06If I go back that night.
41:07I wouldn't have done it.
41:09Knowing.
41:10Yeah.
41:10Knowing what it felt like.
41:13Knowing how this will turn out.
41:15I wouldn't have done it.
41:25The sentencing hearing started with the outpouring of grief for Warren Barnes, a beloved member of the downtown community.
41:32Especially Terry Cohee, the defendant's mother.
41:41And the lesson I took from this, no matter who you are, no matter where you are or what you
41:48do, you are loved just like Warren and you will be missed.
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