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00:26It looks like she's gonna stab like
00:33I need you guys to leave and walk over there, please. So we can do our job. Okay. All right
00:48Can we get a med bag med bag? Hold that as good as you can, okay? She was agonal when
00:54I got here
00:56No pulse when I got here
01:00Yeah
01:05Someone on the help road the structure
01:07That way, that way. Yep. One, two, three up. Nope. This way, this way, this way. Go, go, go
01:26All right, we got this
01:27There we go. That was on the back side. Yeah. Okay
01:39Manny, get any information about the fleeing suspect
01:42Perfect. Yep. All right. What did you see?
01:45What did you see?
01:50We just
01:52No way this is happening right now
01:55She's my twin sister
01:57What's her name? Taylor Drakovich
01:59Why was she here today?
02:01So we just came back from the movie theater
02:03Okay, all the all three of you?
02:05Yes, okay
02:05She was about to drive home and all of a sudden
02:08We heard her screaming
02:09Okay
02:10We thought it was the neighbors downstairs
02:13But
02:15We came down
02:16Mom's arm like this
02:17Okay
02:18Did you didn't see anybody?
02:20No
02:20You just heard her screaming?
02:21All we saw was there was a car
02:22A gray car
02:23And it's flying down, you know, this way
02:26And then she
02:27No
02:28And then they took off
02:31Okay
02:31Come on Taylor, are you in there?
02:34Only thing we got right now is a gray SUV
02:38Left at a high rate of speed
02:39North Mountain
02:44Hey
02:47Okay, does she have a boyfriend?
02:49Yes, um, she has a previous boyfriend
02:51Okay, what's his name?
02:53What's his name?
02:55Jeff
02:55Jeff what?
02:57Jeffrey
02:58Jeff, you're hard to get this
03:00Does he have a vehicle that you know?
03:02Yes, he drives
03:04Black Chevy
03:05Yes
03:06Oh my god
03:08Would you mind if we just search through your apartment
03:10and make sure nothing happened in there?
03:12Okay
03:12Of course
03:12You can walk with us up there
03:168-2
03:17Myself and Baker 22
03:19are going to be clearing apartment
03:23No one else should be inside, correct?
03:29You're not featuring all the lights
03:31Oh, perfect
03:32No one else should be inside?
03:33No
03:34Okay
03:35Just me
03:35Yeah
03:35That way
03:40No, she doesn't live
03:43No
03:43We were just together
03:58And she never made it inside?
04:01No
04:01Okay
04:02Looks like good
04:24Search is complete
04:25Search is complete
04:26Sorry
04:26We just found out that
04:27The owner does not have any room here
04:38We'll go 35
04:39Okay
04:40Um
04:40Multiple stab wounds to the back
04:42In the apartment
04:43Or out here
04:44Right here
04:44Okay
04:45Is Vic's car here?
04:47Presumably this one
04:48Okay
04:49Mama's right there
04:50Okay
04:51They didn't see anything?
04:53Nobody saw what the hell went down?
04:55Not one
04:56I think so
04:57See, I'm just going to go take a look here
04:58There's blood
05:00On the passenger floorboard
05:02And then some of her hair
05:03Which there's some of her hair over there too
05:05That she probably lost
05:06In the stabbing
05:08So this door was open?
05:09But there's this bag here
05:10So I think probably she tried to get back in here
05:12Was the door open though when we got here?
05:14No
05:15No
05:15We were shutting it
05:15Her keys are there
05:16Okay
05:17So I think maybe she tried to get in her car
05:19That makes sense
05:20And then just
05:21Over there
05:22Sure
05:23Okay
05:23So we're
05:24No weapon
05:25I checked under all these cars
05:27Everyone?
05:28Yeah
05:28Okay
05:28Okay
05:30They believe who witnessed
05:32The person leaving was in a gray SUV
05:36Yeah
05:38So we need to get on flock and start checking
05:42Wester
05:43Get a hold of management
05:46She's right there
05:47Okay
05:47Do they have cameras to go down the main road?
05:49I'll take
05:50I'll look but generally
05:51I don't think they have anything
05:52I'll check the main office though
05:54So maybe that's different
05:56Coming into the parts in between now
05:58We've got three stables to the head
06:00Depression
06:01Uh we do have
06:02Pretty much down to the skull on our head
06:04I have not muted back yet
06:06CPR is in progress
06:07This is a hard rhythm
06:08You do uh
06:09I have an attempted shock on board
06:11Do you have pulse?
06:16I can't feel one
06:17You can just keep going
06:18It's just showing heart rate
06:19So it might be
06:20Continue
06:21Breath
06:22Is he nice and smooth on the stairs please?
06:24Nice and smooth all the way out guys
06:27Go ahead
06:28Yeah
06:32Do you have her ID?
06:34Yeah
06:36I'm good
06:37Okay
07:04If they get there.
07:07I'd like to know if there's that gray SUV associated with him.
07:13I'm just trying to put everything together.
07:15So what I'm getting is her ex, they have issues, he's got a PPO and he's been making some threats.
07:22It sounds like she doesn't want to be with him and he's getting a little crazy about it.
07:25I just want to make sure we covered everything and we can put all the pieces together.
07:30I saw him on video.
07:34I'm trying to keep my date straight.
07:36It's been...
07:3714.
07:38It was like two weeks ago he showed up at her work and he spent the night in jail.
07:46I think like, I think it was two weeks ago.
07:49Yeah.
07:49He got out in the morning.
07:51They have the video.
07:52I think it was two weeks ago.
07:53I think it was two weeks ago.
07:55I think it was two weeks ago.
07:58I think it was two weeks ago.
08:01I think it was two weeks ago.
08:05I think it was two weeks ago.
08:09I think it was two weeks ago.
08:09I think it was two weeks ago.
08:11I think it was two weeks ago.
08:11I think it was two weeks ago.
08:13I think it was two weeks ago.
08:13I think it was two weeks ago.
08:16I think it was two weeks ago.
08:48There's a cruise there, say again.
08:54There's a Chevy Cruze at his home, but they don't see an SUV.
08:58Clear, direct.
08:59You want to just, with caution, have them in contact with him.
09:15I'm going to find a landing behind here.
09:20Calmosu Police, search warrant.
09:21Anyone inside 3B, come to the front door, please.
09:25Calmosu Police, search warrant.
09:31Calmosu Police, search warrant.
09:33For apartment 3B, anyone inside, call on now.
09:38Calmosu Police, search warrant.
09:41I'll work over there.
09:45Police Department, search warrant.
09:47Police Department, search warrant.
09:49I'll hold up.
09:55Clear.
09:56Clear.
09:59Clear.
10:00Hello.
10:04Clear.
10:06Clear.
10:08Clear.
10:14Clear.
10:14He's not here.
10:17We do have a telephone number for him.
10:19Not sure if we want to start a thing.
10:22Please.
10:25Is there anywhere else he would go?
10:27Other than the apartment.
10:29I think we went there.
10:30He's not there.
10:31Do you have a good address for his parents or names?
10:35Um, Melissa and Mike.
10:37Melissa and Mike.
10:39His sister lives there, too.
10:41What's his sister's name, ma'am?
10:43Jasmine.
10:43Jasmine.
10:44For me, everyone there's going for a second change.
10:45What you think about.
10:49You just don't need to stop!
10:49It's asور..
11:10It's as those papers have been told stop!
11:10How they want to pop up?
11:12The fragment.
11:13Becas�?
11:14I am and don't need to get guessed down.
11:28Hi, I'm looking for Jeff.
11:30Is he around?
11:33Why are you looking for my Jeff?
11:35Kalzoo wants to talk to him about something.
11:37They asked a couple of us to come out here and try and find him.
11:40Is he home?
11:41He's not even here.
11:43Do you know where he stays at?
11:44He has his apartment.
11:47Alrighty.
11:48Okay, I appreciate it.
11:56He's not here.
12:11Go again, Baker.
12:34Hey, one of our deaths is behind that car.
12:38Okay.
12:40The car must have been in the garage.
12:43I watch him pull out of the driveway and head east.
12:45I'm going to haveнего.
12:48Hey.
12:50Hey.
12:54Yeah.
13:13Hey.
13:14Hey.
13:19Great GMC, 26th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:25215.
13:2926th Street, 63rd Ave.
13:30We'll be out on the penalty stop.
13:38Driver, show us your hands!
13:41Step out of the car, show us your hands!
13:48Who else is in the car with you?
13:51Just you?
13:54Can you step back here for me?
13:59Just keep your hands where we can see them, okay?
14:01There's nobody else in the car?
14:02Okay.
14:03I was going to get my lottery.
14:06Why you guys are kissing a gun?
14:10I know.
14:11I know.
14:12I know.
14:12I know.
14:13I know.
14:28I know.
14:30I know.
14:30I know.
14:33Bull .
14:34Ma'am.
14:34You're going to stay here, okay?
14:35I can do anything, Mom!
14:39Just her.
14:40This is Mom.
14:40This is Melissa.
14:41Okay.
14:42And car's empty, I'm guessing?
14:43Car's empty.
14:44She say anything about where he is?
14:45She's just pissed off that we're harassing.
14:47Okay.
14:48Okay.
14:51So, we think that he took off in this car from the scene.
14:55So, obviously, if she's got it, she had some kind of communication with him.
14:59Do you still have eyes on that house?
15:00I don't think so.
15:01I can go slide back there.
15:02If we could get some more eyes on the house, we'll talk to Mom real quick.
15:07Hi, ma'am.
15:08Why did I get a gun cut on me?
15:10I understand.
15:11No, it's .
15:12They both pulled a gun on me.
15:13I'm sure you're very worried and frustrated about everything that's gone.
15:17I have no idea what's going on.
15:18Allow me to explain everything, okay?
15:20We need to talk to Jeff.
15:22Jeff and Taylor got into it, and we got to talk to him right away.
15:25They got into it?
15:26Yes.
15:27Did he go to see her or something?
15:29Yes.
15:30Do you know, is he back at your place?
15:31No.
15:32Do you know where he's at?
15:34No.
15:35Melissa, can I come talk to you over here real quick?
15:38You can talk to me.
15:39That's fine.
15:42Melissa, you are in a horrible spot right now because your son has put you in the middle
15:49of a big mess, all right?
15:51I know that Jeff was in that vehicle within the last couple of hours, and I know that that
15:57vehicle made it back to your place and left.
16:01We need to get a hold of him because we are concerned for his safety.
16:04I don't know how to get a hold of Jeffrey.
16:09I worry about Jeffrey's safety, too.
16:12I mean, he already tried to commit suicide once.
16:14Mm-hmm.
16:16What are you looking for in my car?
16:20I'm just looking, ma'am.
16:21You know what?
16:22Open the doors.
16:23You can look all through my car.
16:24I don't have anything.
16:26It's just my work stuff.
16:30You know what?
16:30I'm gonna open the doors and you can...
16:32Oh, hey, Melissa.
16:33Melissa, Melissa.
16:33Melissa.
16:34You're irritating the hell out of me because if you're gonna look in my car, I'll open
16:37the doors.
16:38You can look in through my whole car.
16:40Would you mind keeping talking to me while he's just looking around and I'm not even
16:44saying that he's gonna go in your car, but you're okay if he does?
16:47I don't have anything in there for him to...
16:49Yeah.
16:50Exactly.
16:52Oh.
16:53That looks like vomit.
16:55See this right here?
16:57Right under the phone?
16:59What is it?
17:00Oh, the blood?
17:01Yeah.
17:07There's blood in the front seat, so she got this car from him somehow.
17:14You know what?
17:15I'm not gonna answer any more questions because...
17:17We're...
17:18Unfortunately, you can't get back in your car right now.
17:21All right?
17:21So you can stay here and talk with me if you'd like.
17:24Ma'am, are you injured at all?
17:26Why would I be injured?
17:27Well, it just looks like there's some blood in the center couch.
17:30I'll just make sure you don't need any medical attention or anything like that.
17:34Do you have any injuries that we need to know about?
17:39You're okay?
17:40Yeah.
17:45It's like Detective Knopf said.
17:47There's blood in your vehicle.
17:48Do you know where it came from?
17:57Where is there blood in the car?
18:03I just want to look at it.
18:05I'm not gonna...
18:09Right by the phone.
18:11By my phone?
18:13Whatever...
18:14Who has every phone that is in the middle?
18:15That's my phone.
18:18And it looks like in the trash can as well.
18:22Oh, that might be my lipstick.
18:25So here's our concern.
18:27Our concern's that it's...
18:28That might be my lipstick.
18:30Hell.
18:32I don't think it's blood.
18:33Everybody knows it's not blood.
18:35I don't know that it's not blood.
18:38Okay.
18:45The phone is pinged.
18:46I went right back to the house.
18:53There is a silver focus in the driveway that's registered to your S1's sister, Jasmine Kucharski.
19:01Alright, um...
19:03Did you see any movement at the house?
19:05No.
19:06Okay.
19:10Who's over at the house right now?
19:12My daughter and her boyfriend.
19:14Jasmine is back.
19:17Step over here and talk with me, okay?
19:19I'm gonna let you know what's going on.
19:23You can't tell my car!
19:25I gotta go to work!
19:26You'll find out if you let me talk to you.
19:29Melissa, let's go back over here so you can...
19:30No, I need to get my work stuff out of there for my car.
19:33I need to get my purse.
19:34Melissa.
19:35What?
19:35Do you think we're out here for a PPO violation?
19:38I don't know what you are out here.
19:39I honestly don't.
19:40I really swear to God, I don't have any idea.
19:43I don't...
19:44I'm telling you the honest truth.
19:46Alright.
19:47Taylor is dead.
19:49Alright?
19:50And we need to find Jeff before he does something to himself.
19:54Taylor's dead?
19:55Yes.
19:55What?
19:56We're not out here for some little thing.
19:58You're, you're, you're, you're lying!
19:59I'm not lying.
20:00Oh my gosh!
20:01Are you serious?
20:02Taylor's dead?
20:03Think about everything that's happened in the last hour.
20:06I love Taylor.
20:06At this point we know that Jeff is involved and he was at your house.
20:12When was the last time you saw Jeff?
20:15I saw Jeff a couple days ago.
20:16He...
20:17Jeff is putting you into the point where you could be an accessory after the fact that you
20:20murdered.
20:21Do you understand that?
20:22I didn't...
20:22I didn't...
20:22I don't know anything!
20:23I don't know anything!
20:25Oh my gosh!
20:25I can't believe Taylor's dead!
20:28We will find him.
20:30We will arrest him for this.
20:31Do you also want to share a cell with him?
20:35I don't know anything.
20:37Please.
20:39Please just don't talk to me, okay?
20:41Please just don't.
20:44Please just don't.
20:46If you can get her wherever is most convenient for her, because we're going to head to their
20:55house and deal with Jasmine and Zach and the search warrant and everything related to
21:01that.
21:02I could drop you at a hotel if you don't got family.
21:05Are you comfortable with one of the hotels?
21:07Yeah.
21:07I guess so.
21:08Okay.
21:09Before we get in the car, before they really get rolling on that thing, is Jeff going to
21:13pop out behind the door and try to stab one of us?
21:17No.
21:19Be there in a second.
21:29Please come to the front door with your arms in the air.
21:34Van Buren has just lit up the house and they're doing announcements now.
21:38We'll let you know if anyone comes out.
21:46Oh, we got contact at the front door.
21:50Jasmine?
21:51Yep.
21:52Yep.
21:52Who's with you, Zach?
21:54Yep.
21:54Keep walking out.
21:58There we go.
22:00Can you just put your hands on top of the truck hook?
22:03Zach, right?
22:04Okay.
22:05We would like to talk to you guys about something that happened earlier today.
22:09You're not under arrest or anything like that.
22:11And then we'll just have a conversation.
22:13Mike?
22:13Mike.
22:17Hi, Jasmine.
22:18Hi.
22:18Hi.
22:18Are you warm enough?
22:20Yes.
22:20Okay.
22:22Sorry, I'll block the light here.
22:24It sounds like Jeff and Taylor kind of got into it earlier today.
22:29Have you talked to him or seen him today?
22:35That was when you last talked to him?
22:39I think so, yeah.
22:40Just for my peace of mind, would you mind showing me your phone, like the text messages
22:44and the call logs just so I can say he hasn't texted or called her since 3 or whatever?
22:50Is he listed as Jeff or what's he listed under?
22:54Yeah.
22:55Is this you on this side?
22:56Yeah, I think so.
22:58So he said cops are here at 6.53, you said 20 minutes out, lawyer.
23:04Is this you talking to him?
23:05Yeah, I guess.
23:06He said, call mom, tell her to tell them to leave.
23:10You don't remember that?
23:12I don't know.
23:13Yes, I don't know.
23:14He was...
23:15Oh, my God.
23:17Now that you mention it, I'm so sorry.
23:18Yeah, I just...
23:20I just...
23:21Um, he just...
23:23I guess he panics all the time about the cops when I write it off.
23:26How come you told him to get a lawyer?
23:28Because if she said he broke PPO and he didn't, or he did, then he's gonna go back to jail.
23:32And if he goes back to jail for three months, he's just gonna kill himself.
23:47Jasmine, is Jeff inside the house?
23:49No, I don't think so.
23:51I don't know.
23:52We've been gone all day.
23:55All right.
23:55Um, give me just a minute.
23:56I'll be right back.
23:57Okay?
24:02Uh, the dad's just arriving also.
24:04I'm gonna go make contact with him.
24:06Hi.
24:07Hi.
24:07Michael?
24:08Yes.
24:09All right.
24:10Um, I'm sorry.
24:12I apologize for everything that is going on here.
24:14My name is Brian Deltman.
24:15I'm detective.
24:16I know your wife reached out to you at some point.
24:19Have you talked to Jeff at all tonight?
24:21No.
24:22Um, did you have your phone with you?
24:24You know when the last time you would have spoke to him was?
24:27That would be...
24:30April.
24:32Do you guys have any weapons in the house or anything like that?
24:36I, I do have, uh...
24:39My dad's gone.
24:41Uh, it's a .22.
24:43Okay.
24:44All right.
24:44Hang tight with us for a couple of minutes.
24:46Okay?
24:49We can go up to the side and come across.
24:51Yep.
24:51Are you ready?
24:52Yep.
24:53Great.
24:59Drone's airborne.
25:00Overwatch.
25:00Secured.
25:04Overwatch.
25:08Stay on the stairs.
25:09You need to go over.
25:14I got your window over here, guys.
25:17I got your window over here, guys.
25:28Kalamazoo police.
25:29Anyone inside, come to the front door.
25:37Kalamazoo police.
25:38Jeff, come to the front door.
25:44Kalamazoo police.
25:45We have a search warrant.
25:46Anyone inside, come to the front door.
25:54Good to go.
25:56Okay.
25:58Kalamazoo police.
25:59Search warrant.
26:01I got the hall here.
26:01Jake's downstairs.
26:03I'm with you on the left.
26:05Check that corner there.
26:07Slow and steady.
26:09Jeff?
26:11Jeff, public safety.
26:12Call out, bud.
26:13Wider to the right.
26:16I'm with you.
26:17Yep.
26:17Cat over here.
26:20Police search warrant.
26:21Police search warrant.
26:22Call out.
26:25Okay.
26:27Guessing this is the garage?
26:28Yep.
26:30I'm with you for the garage.
26:33Okay.
26:33Kalamazoo police.
26:34Search warrant.
26:35Anyone inside, call out now.
26:38Come on, Jeff.
26:39Call out, buddy.
26:41What is that?
26:42A coat or something?
26:43Looks like a coat rack.
26:45Yeah.
26:46Back there.
26:48I don't know what's going on here.
26:53Kalamazoo police.
26:54Anyone in the garage, call out now.
27:01Alright.
27:02Clear.
27:05Is that insulation?
27:07Is there a scuttle?
27:08Look up.
27:09Yeah.
27:10There's a scuttle?
27:11Uh, yeah.
27:12Do you see this?
27:13The insulation over here?
27:16Yep.
27:19Okay.
27:20Alright.
27:21We have to step here, step there.
27:24So, we could be up there?
27:26We can definitely go.
27:27Yep.
27:27We might want to toss the K9 up in.
27:31So, that's...
27:33It would be tricky to get the K9 up there, but I will say the drone guy is talking a
27:39lot about
27:39how their drones can just go inside and clear.
27:42That might be a good thing for getting that added.
27:45Alright.
27:46Yeah.
27:55Drone's coming up.
27:58Police department, call out if you're in here.
28:01Jeff, can you call out please?
28:03Come on out.
28:11You're gonna need more height on it, man.
28:29Go with, keep going, Jay.
28:30To the right, that will burst out.
28:34Yeah.
28:34There he is.
28:35Yeah.
28:36He's up there.
28:38He's got his.
28:43Hey, Jeff.
28:44What's that in your mouth?
28:45Uh...
28:46What's in your mouth?
28:46Ovate? Okay. Jeff, I want you to drop that knife, okay bud? Can you put the
28:52knife down? Jeff, hey listen, this is Tim. I know you're nervous. I know you're
29:01worried about what's going on, okay? We don't, we're not here to harm you or
29:06anything. We want to help. That's why we're here. I told your sister, I told
29:11your dad out front we were gonna do everything we could to help you out in
29:15this situation, okay? I can tell you right now, I wholeheartedly will let you talk
29:23to your dad and your sister if you want to come down right now, okay? I'd really
29:30like it for your safety, for my partner's safety and eyes. Could we just have you
29:36come on down with me right now? Okay, okay. Say, Tim? Yes. Would you let Jeff know,
29:44and I know you're making great progress? Yep. I'm glad he's talking with you. But in the next couple of
29:50minutes,
29:51unfortunately, if he doesn't start to make his way down, we are going to open a hole in the garage.
29:58Okay.
30:00Jeff, that's my captain, but I would like you to just come through this hole and then that way we
30:06can go
30:06outside and have a conversation and I can get you some water. Could we do that right now?
30:12Can I have more time?
30:14We're kind of not going to do the hole more time thing, okay?
30:19Unfortunately, I think this might be a little bit loud, but I just want him to be aware
30:24that we're going to be making some noise. Okay.
30:31Jeff, put the knife down. Listen to me. Listen to me. Drop the knife. Put the knife down, okay?
30:38Put the knife down. We care about you. We don't want anything to happen to you.
30:52All these gentlemen are doing is helping you get access down, okay? Jeff, listen to me, okay? Jeff.
31:02Hey, Jeff.
31:04Jeff.
31:07You got hands.
31:09Jeff. Jeff, we got a hole, so come on down in that hole right there if you can.
31:15We're good. We're good. We're good. One shooter.
31:19I can't see him, so.
31:21We have coverage, so if you want to move up and take a position elevator right behind you.
31:27Okay.
31:28All right.
31:31Jeff.
31:32Okay. You see me, bud?
31:34Okay. Look at me.
31:37Okay.
31:38What is going on down here is them wanting to see that you're okay.
31:43All right?
31:44All the way up.
31:44All the way up.
31:45I want you to drop your knife.
31:47I'll give you a shot.
31:48Come here, holster.
31:49Okay.
31:50I want you to drop your knife down to the floor over there by those guys.
31:55Can you do that?
31:56Just put it down in the garage.
31:59Can you do that for me?
32:00This is Ernie.
32:01I'm up.
32:01You have two people now that are in a insulated roof trying to help you to make sure you're okay.
32:08Get that to Ernie.
32:12If you just put the knife down, I'll walk over to you and we'll help you get down out of
32:20here.
32:23We can move this ladder to any of these holes at whatever's easiest.
32:29Okay.
32:30We're just moving.
32:31Did I have a shot?
32:33No.
32:34We're not even.
32:37I'm not even pointing at you.
32:39Okay?
32:42Now that you can see it face to face, I know that light was probably blinding you.
32:46Could you just set it down for a second and see what happens and then we can just keep talking?
32:51Okay.
32:53Okay.
32:54Thank you very much, Jeff.
32:55Could you do me one more thing?
32:57What?
32:58Could you just take your hand and maybe put it on the 2x4 so that you're just not holding it?
33:01It's still right there, but you're just not holding it.
33:04Could you do that for me?
33:06You're going to shoot.
33:08You see my hands?
33:10No one even has a gun out.
33:11We're not doing that.
33:12Okay.
33:12Gun's in my holster.
33:14I'm standing here and I'm closer to you because I want you to be able to see that I'm not
33:18trying to play games with you, okay?
33:20I'm not trying to trick you.
33:21I want you to talk to us.
33:22There's no games and I'll trick you.
33:23Okay.
33:23Why can't you guys just kill me?
33:25We don't want to do that and we're not going to do that.
33:29Okay?
33:29It's going to happen.
33:32Let's go down.
33:33Let's talk to your dad.
33:35Let's talk to your sister.
33:37Just put the knife down.
33:39No.
33:40No.
33:41No.
33:41No.
33:42No.
33:43God.
33:43I know we're talking in circles, but why can't you guys just f***ing die?
33:49That's not what we do.
33:49We don't do that.
33:51Why can't you just f***ing die?
33:52We don't ever give up, Jeff.
33:54We don't want to.
33:55I'd rather.
33:56At least better just be dead.
33:59It's dead.
33:59It's dead.
34:00Get him under power.
34:06Get him from under power.
34:08Get him from under power.
34:09Keep him under power.
34:09Got him.
34:11Go.
34:11Get up.
34:12Ow.
34:13Nice.
34:13Knife's out.
34:13Knife's out.
34:14Go.
34:15Hit again.
34:16I'm good.
34:18All right.
34:19Knife down.
34:20Knife down.
34:20Hey.
34:21Good.
34:22All right.
34:22All right.
34:23It's good.
34:24Let's get him up before he goes through.
34:26Okay.
34:26Cuffs.
34:28Don't drop him.
34:29Nope.
34:29It's all right.
34:30Watch your foot, Jeff.
34:31Got an extra body?
34:32Yep.
34:33Just stand up on the beam.
34:34Stand up on the beam.
34:36Hey, hey, hey.
34:37You did it.
34:38You did it.
34:39We're here.
34:40You got this.
34:42I'm doing great.
34:43Hold on.
34:44You're right.
34:45You're good.
34:45Hold on with your arms.
34:46Keep going.
34:47You got him?
34:47Yep.
34:48Keep going.
34:50Nope.
34:51Nope.
34:52Jeff, good.
34:54Let me get the other side.
34:55Watch out.
34:57Keep walking.
34:58Keep walking, bud.
34:58You're okay.
34:59Yep.
34:59Keep walking.
35:01There you go.
35:02Nice job.
35:04Almost there.
35:05Good job.
35:06Yep.
35:06Stay going.
35:10Watch the drywall there, guys.
35:11That's girls.
35:12Come on.
35:12Stand up.
35:14Stand up, Jeff.
35:15Jeff, come on.
35:17That's okay.
35:18Guys, can you help us with the legs?
35:20We can't.
35:20We raised you.
35:21Tell us if we can try to catch him.
35:23I think Velt and I can probably assist in a lowering here to help with the legs.
35:28Go ahead, Jeff.
35:28You go ahead.
35:29Good, bud.
35:29I got him.
35:30I got him.
35:31I got him.
35:31I got him.
35:31You're good?
35:33You're coming down.
35:33You're ready?
35:34Yep.
35:34Okay.
35:48That was awesome.
36:05Hop in, bud.
36:10Let me grab the seatbelt from you, okay?
36:13I want to make sure you're safe.
36:17Hey, brother, I'm going to have your sister come back so you can talk to her.
36:20Are you okay with that?
36:20Yeah.
36:21You want to do that?
36:22Sure.
36:23I want to make sure you're okay.
36:26Okay.
36:34Hey.
36:36What's up?
36:37Oh.
36:39You just...
36:39I don't...
36:40I don't know.
36:41I don't know.
36:42I love you still.
36:44I love you too.
36:45I don't know.
36:46I don't know anything.
36:49Yeah.
36:52I don't know what you want to say to me, but they let me talk to you.
36:56Yeah, I guess so.
36:57I guess just pay my bond, my bail.
37:02Call some lawyers.
37:04Well, you're genuinely insane, so I might be right on that.
37:07Yeah.
37:09All right.
37:10We're going to get rocking.
37:12I love you.
37:13I love you.
37:19Jeff, I'm so glad you're sitting here talking to me.
37:22Oh, my gosh, man.
37:23You have no idea.
37:26Yeah.
37:36All right, bud.
37:38I'm out.
37:40We didn't do our headquarters here.
37:42You want a walk?
37:46All right.
37:47Here we go.
37:48All right.
37:49We'll go up here.
37:51Sure.
37:52Close?
37:53Close.
37:54We obviously brought you down here so we could sit down like men.
37:57This is an opportunity for you to give us your side of the story about what happened here today.
38:04As far as your phone, is your phone up in the attic where you were at, or is it somewhere
38:08else in the house?
38:10It's somewhere in the house.
38:11Like where?
38:12I really don't know everything.
38:14Like when the cops came, I just ran into the attic.
38:17It's kind of just like blur.
38:20And you'd been up in the attic since they first showed up.
38:24Yep.
38:26What car did you drive when you drove to your parents' house today?
38:29What car was that that you brought there?
38:31I used Zach and Jasmine's car.
38:33The one that was in the driveway?
38:35Yeah.
38:36Is there any chance that maybe you were in your mom's car?
38:39No.
38:40Are you sure?
38:41Mm-hmm.
38:42You think, who was in your mom's car today then?
38:44My mom?
38:46Yeah.
38:47She had to run some airing.
38:50Well, wouldn't it surprise you if I told you that that car was in Kalamazoo this afternoon?
38:56Your mom's was?
38:57I guess she was probably in Kalamazoo.
39:00But she said she wasn't in Kalamazoo.
39:05Mm-hmm.
39:05We've been working since this evening, since this incident happened, but we can track exactly
39:12where you've been.
39:14We know that you didn't take your sister's little gray car.
39:20So, obviously, we didn't just show up at your house randomly today, right?
39:25We know that you were in your mom's 2019 GMC terrain.
39:30We know that you were over on Cork Street with Taylor.
39:34Your mom's car is right here at Cork in Old Cork.
39:39I don't remember that.
39:40You don't remember any of that?
39:41No.
39:42Okay.
39:44I don't like to speak to my lawyers.
39:47Okay.
39:48That's all right.
39:49It's absolutely fine.
39:50Yep.
39:50Okay.
39:51Yep.
39:52That's your right, Matt.
39:53So, what's next?
39:55What's next?
39:56Yep.
39:57Well, you're going to go to jail.
40:00Mm-hmm.
40:00And then this case will go before the prosecutor's office.
40:03Mm-hmm.
40:04And they'll decide what the appropriate charge is.
40:07Okay.
40:08Okay.
40:09A man charged with fatally stabbing his ex-girlfriend has entered a plea for the murder.
40:1428-year-old Taylor was stabbed in the face, head, and hands.
40:18Evidence recovered included a bloody knife and bloody clothes.
40:22Jeffrey Kucharski pleaded guilty today to second-degree murder.
40:39Jeffrey Kucharski was sentenced to 60 to 100 years in prison for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, Taylor Dragovich.
40:46Her brother had this to say to Kucharski.
40:49You are a piece of garbage.
40:51And because of what you did to my sister, I can't trust people anymore.
40:56The PPO that she was granted did nothing to protect her, and he was free to lie in wait and
41:02fatally attack her when her defenses were down.
41:04Taylor deserved better.
41:12We want to honor Taylor's generous spirit and beautiful soul as we bring awareness to the seriousness of domestic violence.
41:22She shouldn't be in a cemetery at 29.
41:25She should be here.
41:27So we're honoring the 28 years we were lucky enough to have her here.
41:32I miss her smile.
41:34I miss her laugh.
41:35That's the essence of her, yeah, just that big smile, and she had it on all the time.
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