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Grant & Danny react to some of the quotes from Dan Quinn, who offered insight on his observations from the rookie class.
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00:22We should tip our cap to the commanders,
00:24not only for getting the Sonny Stiles deal done ahead of minicamp today,
00:28but their entire rookie draft class is signed, sealed, and delivered.
00:31This is not the accomplishment that it would have been 10, 12 years ago.
00:35With the slotted system now, pretty rare that there are any issues,
00:39but it is also not completely common that the entire class is under contract
00:43this early either.
00:44So kudos to the commanders for getting that done.
00:47I think the second round is the round generally where there's some weird terminology.
00:53You'll hear the term offset language used a bunch in reference to that
00:56where it's not done because of that.
00:58They have the benefit of not having a second round pick to worry about that.
01:01So if they did, maybe you'd have everyone but that player signed at this juncture
01:04because they wait for the other dominoes to fall
01:06to see what kind of language they can get in their deal.
01:08But I thought that was a big deal today to see that they announced
01:11that Sonny Stiles is getting $37 million in guarantees,
01:14that he is going to be ready with Penn already put to paper
01:17when he gets on the field in training camp,
01:19looking ahead to the start of the season.
01:22Dan Quinn spoke today about some of the rookies in this class.
01:25He talked about Joshua Josephs.
01:27I found his answer on Josephs enlightening.
01:30This is the edge defender from Tennessee.
01:32Washington drafted him in the fifth round.
01:35They very rarely under Adam Peters have made picks
01:39where people thought they got someone like a round early,
01:43excuse me, a round later than they should have.
01:44Normally, everyone thinks they got him a round early.
01:47See, Luke McCaffrey or some of the guys that they really liked,
01:49like Ben Sennett.
01:50This was a, wow, that guy was still there?
01:52That's quite a find for you.
01:55Listen to what Quinn said about Josephs, though.
01:57A chance to spend some time with him today after our walkthrough to go in.
02:00And it's the football knowledge also that goes with it.
02:03Josh has been somebody at Tennessee that's been versatile.
02:05He can drop.
02:05He can rush.
02:06That's why he's here to rush.
02:08But I'm excited to have that type of length, get off,
02:11demonstrated pass, rush ability.
02:13I found the more of that that you have and develop it.
02:17We were talking about traits earlier, how important that is.
02:19He has that.
02:20And we look forward to developing that trait to see if we can take him from this space
02:24into the next one.
02:26Maybe I should not be surprised by this.
02:29But I thought when they drafted Joshua Josephs,
02:32he was going to be more of a rundown guy early on in his career.
02:36And you bring him along and hopefully eventually get some pass rush out of him.
02:40You look at the last couple of years, 15 tackles for loss was one of the highest graded
02:44run defenders on the edge in the SEC at times over the last couple of seasons.
02:49That was just the vision I thought they had.
02:51He said, we brought him here to rush.
02:53And then he talked about him as a pass rusher two or three different ways during that answer.
02:57It's hard not to notice that, right?
02:58Makes you think they think there's a lot more in the tank.
03:01He only had a sack and a half two seasons ago as a junior.
03:04Four sacks as a senior.
03:05So five and a half sacks the last two years, a total of nine and a half sacks in four
03:11years
03:11isn't a whole lot to write home about.
03:13When you watch him, the plays where he does hit the quarterback, it's pretty impressive.
03:18He's got some speed.
03:19He blows quarterbacks up.
03:20Often the ball is forced out, like with sack fumbles as well,
03:23which was a bit of a calling card for him when he got to the QB.
03:27But that seemed way more like they think of him as someone who can help on passing downs
03:32pretty quickly than a big body with length who's going to play the run,
03:36which is kind of how I was viewing this.
03:37Yeah, it's hard not to notice that, right?
03:38I mean, he's got that kind of, you know, the look of a pass rusher, right?
03:43I mean, so that's what he looks like getting off the bus.
03:45But that wasn't necessarily where he was more productive.
03:48Had 15 tackles for loss over the last couple of years.
03:50But that's what they drafted him to do.
03:51It was more the opposite, maybe, of kind of what we anticipated.
03:54It was a, he'll rush the passer for now.
03:56Maybe we'll teach him how to do the other stuff eventually.
03:58It could become more of an every down guy.
03:59But right now, we'll give him one thing to worry about, and that's get upfield.
04:02I thought that was pretty interesting.
04:03Here's another telling answer from Dan Quinn today.
04:05As he spoke to the media during rookie minicamp in Ashburn,
04:09he talked about possible competitions.
04:14The idea of, you know, how much the roster's unsettled came up in a question.
04:18And he highlighted two positions where he could see camp competitions,
04:23which I thought was pretty revealing.
04:24At a number of spots, it's one of the things I love,
04:27just promoting that type of competition and what we'll do.
04:30And so there'll be a number of positions that we'll talk about, you know,
04:34in the months ahead of where those competitions will be.
04:37I honestly feel like that's how we get the best out of one another.
04:40Those competitions at positions, different styles and roles,
04:45that's how it all kind of comes together.
04:47And so whether we're talking about kicker or center or, you know,
04:50different spots along the way, we just keep battling for it,
04:54and we'll see it all the way through.
04:56So those are the two front of mind for Dan Quinn,
04:59where he doesn't know who his starter is, I guess, is kicker and center.
05:02I buy one of those, I sell the other.
05:04I think one of those is true.
05:06At kicker, Jake Moody earned the job,
05:09or this kid Drew Stevens will come in and steal it from you.
05:12He's got a bigger leg.
05:13We don't really care who kicks.
05:14We have no horse in this race.
05:15Yeah, no affiliation.
05:16May the best man win.
05:17I think they want to act like there's a competition at center,
05:21and I just don't think there is one.
05:22They said as soon as they got rid of Biotish,
05:25when he was released, it was a pretty stunning development.
05:30Externally, we all thought, what was that about?
05:32They have no answer here.
05:33And when you start making calls or asking people over there,
05:36they go, oh, well, there's going to be a competition.
05:38They like Allegretti.
05:39He'll probably be the starter, but they're going to push him.
05:41He's going to have to compete.
05:42They're not going to give him anything.
05:42But they didn't really bring anyone in that can actually push him.
05:47Julian Good-Jones has just been here, part of the fabric,
05:50practice squad type, the last few years.
05:52I guess it's possible he could supplant him and win that job.
05:56That would be pretty shocking.
05:57They just drafted a center who was at rookie minicamp today in Matt Golbin,
06:03who I guess they could claim has a chance to win the job,
06:07but he was drafted in the seventh round.
06:08So I would say I'm skeptical of that.
06:11That's pretty dubious.
06:12So I don't believe the competition at center thing.
06:14We're going to hear it a million times.
06:15I can already tell.
06:17But this is Nick Allegretti's job.
06:19I will only believe there's a real competition when someone else starts a game.
06:22And I'll bet you it's one of those things where they keep saying,
06:24yeah, there's a competition at center,
06:26yet Allegretti's getting all the first two grabs.
06:27And he's winning it, yeah.
06:28Yeah, he's starting in every preseason game.
06:30That's not really what a competition is.
06:31We talked about this in the past with quarterbacks.
06:33Yeah, and any chance like sort of a post-June 1st cut tree gets shaken out
06:38and they feel like there's going to be a market for it
06:40because that's an inexpensive position?
06:42The next Teller Biotis comes free?
06:44Any chance of that?
06:45Maybe second round of free agency where it's super, super cheap?
06:48I don't know.
06:49Possibly, but that's not what he was talking about today.
06:51Me neither.
06:51Because you're not going to tip your hand that you're going to do that.
06:53But it basically sounded to me like,
06:56I am required to say competition.
06:59Wink.
06:59Wink, but I'm not actually saying the word wink.
07:03That's why they did it.
07:04That's why they moved on from Biotis.
07:05I think there actually could be one at left guard, by the way.
07:07I know I'm in the minority here.
07:08Because Chris Paul played really well in the first half of last season
07:11and overall last season I thought he was very solid.
07:15In fact, in one of the two ways that we grade linemen,
07:21he was a top five lineman positionally in all of football, according to PFF.
07:26But pass pro, as a run blocker, they didn't have nearly as favorable a grade for him.
07:30But I say that only to say, he hit free agency.
07:33We were told, wait till you see how much he gets.
07:36The market is going to fight over this guy.
07:39I waited.
07:40Weeks went by, and he came crawling back to Washington for pennies.
07:44That was pretty telling.
07:45In addition to that, he drafted Brandon Coleman in the third round.
07:48And it was almost the second round.
07:50I think he was like four picks out of round two.
07:52Two, effectively, a late second round pick is just standing here now without a role.
07:58If he's a swing tackle, there's value in that.
08:00If he's backing up three positions, I guess you could tell me it was worth it
08:03taking him where they did.
08:05But he played well enough at tackle.
08:06I still want to see him more at guard, where he struggled at the beginning of last year
08:09before he got benched for Paul.
08:12But nobody's really talking about the possibility that Coleman could overtake Paul at left guard.
08:16I could definitely see that happening.
08:18I bet you he gets a chance, whether it's camp or the preseason at some point, to try to close
08:23that gap.
08:23I'd bet on Paul simply just the recent precedent of they don't seem to really care much for Brandon Coleman,
08:31despite every time I get my rudimentary eyes, look and go, okay, he seems to be pretty solid.
08:35Seems to play well.
08:35Like he has to come in for Tunsil when he's banged up or step in at the guard spot or
08:40the left tackle spot
08:41or move all over the place.
08:42Seems to be pretty strong, versatile, and solid.
08:44I'm not telling you I've seen the next, you know, the second coming of Anthony Munoz or something like that,
08:48but it seems to be pretty good.
08:50But they don't really seem that interested in having that guy contend for the job.
08:54It was like once he lost it, it's shh, shh, shh, have a seat right over there.
08:57You can clap with everyone else.
08:58Going through a couple of Dan Quinn's interesting answers today from minicamp.
09:02Started the show with his breakdowns of the fit of Antonio Williams in the passing game,
09:07why he loves Catron Allen, what he's going to bring to the offense as a back,
09:10and then also how they'll ease Sonny Stiles in to the linebacker position.
09:14How about what Dan Quinn had to say about just what the rookies would get done at minicamp in the
09:20next three days?
09:21The first thing, I guess we're onboarding these guys.
09:25Number one, just some of the learning to see, all right, we installed some things with them.
09:30Now can we carry it onto the field?
09:31Some of the movements, but I want to see communication.
09:34I want to see their connection with their other teammates.
09:37The individual portions are more important right now than the team parts.
09:41None of these guys have worked together, so it's just the first part of the onboarding.
09:46So I would say it's an important part of the process.
09:48Have fresh eyes for the guys to go.
09:50I'll generally look at as much on some of the guys here on a tryout basis
09:54than I will on some that are already signed or in that space.
09:59But looking forward, I'm just looking for the communication, the movement skills.
10:02That's first and foremost.
10:05So we got the, by the way, we got to play a Dan Quinn.
10:07The Dan Quinn bingo.
10:08Bingo card at some point.
10:09We got the to go.
10:11The one you sleep on, Danny, and Dara sleeps on is to go.
10:14I don't even know.
10:15I never catch that one.
10:17It's at the end of a sentence.
10:18He always says to go.
10:20It's just a tacked on two words that don't need to be there.
10:22So we got that.
10:24In that space is the obvious one, which I don't really know what that means.
10:28Again, I think it's one of these phrases that you could just take out
10:30and the sentence doesn't change.
10:31But I think he means like, I don't know.
10:34What does he mean in that space?
10:36Meaning like guys that are in that situation or something like that.
10:39But almost always, I think if you take those words out,
10:42the sentence doesn't change.
10:44And there's another one he does all the time that is very noticeable.
10:48In that space to go.
10:52I'll think of it.
10:52Play that again.
10:53Let's rock and roll.
10:54Is it that one?
10:54Well, that's a different thing.
10:56But let me let Danny here to go.
10:59Installed some things with them.
11:01Now can we carry it on to the field?
11:02Some of the movements.
11:03But I want to see communication.
11:04I want to see their connection with their other teammates.
11:07The individual portions are more important right now than the team parts.
11:12None of these guys have worked together.
11:14So it's just the first part of the onboarding.
11:16So I would say it's an important part of the process.
11:19Have fresh eyes for the guys to go.
11:21So I'll generally look at as much on some of the guys.
11:24So he does that all the time?
11:24Oh, yeah.
11:25I never noticed that.
11:26No, to go is a major statement.
11:28Like he never wants to eat here.
11:30He wants takeout.
11:32Every time.
11:33Every single time.
11:33So what is that when he said to go right there?
11:35What is that about?
11:36That's what I'm trying to explain it.
11:38Was he also ordering and they asked if he wanted for here or to go?
11:41And he said, oh, to go.
11:42And then kept answering the question.
11:43I think he had an earpiece in and one of the PR guys was like,
11:46Dan, is this for here or?
11:47And he goes, no, to go.
11:48But it was just mid-sentence.
11:49You know what I'm saying?
11:49What was he saying to go about?
11:51It's just what he said.
11:52He tacks it on at the end.
11:55I never notice it.
11:56Now I will.
11:57Now we're going to have it to go counter.
11:58I think we have to go back and watch the video.
12:00I think Charlie Mule leaned over and asked him if he wanted.
12:03He might have.
12:04For here or to go.
12:05In that space is the other.
12:06In that space, we know.
12:07But there's a third one.
12:08I have three on his bingo.
12:09I know there's a third one.
12:10I just can't pull it right now.
12:12Maybe we'll get it in our next answer.
12:14I loved what he had to say, though.
12:17This is a weird thing.
12:19But cut six here, bouncing back from a bad season.
12:21When you just hear someone acknowledge how bad the year was, it feels good.
12:25It just means something.
12:27Okay, you saw it too.
12:27Thank God.
12:28Yeah, that you know what we know.
12:29And he basically was like, yeah, last year was awful.
12:32Like, it should get tested, you know, to find where your medal is when you have a season that goes
12:36well.
12:36And then one that just went terribly, you want to dig in, you want to find answers, you want to
12:41make sure you can tweak things that need to be tweaked.
12:44But one thing that I know to be a fact, like there's some real competitors in this locker room.
12:48And the standards they have as ballplayers and teammates, those are the things that, you know, help you get to
12:55where you want to get to get to.
12:59He called last season terrible.
13:02It went terribly.
13:04I've never heard him say that before.
13:05Thank God.
13:06We all know it went terribly.
13:07Yeah, I know.
13:07You know that he knows it went terribly.
13:09He had to answer some tough questions.
13:11It's okay, there was a fire.
13:12Ah, thank God.
13:13Okay.
13:14And we're far enough removed now where you could do it, whereas the day after the season, it's probably not
13:18as good for him to say, yeah, that was terrible.
13:20But now we're far enough.
13:21It was a distant.
13:22Because you make fun.
13:22When Spurrier goes 5-11, everybody makes fun of that.
13:26Distant future.
13:27A distant past, same thing.
13:29Days of future past you.
13:30Yeah, you can now look back and go, man, who was the coach of that team?
13:35Right?
13:36But I just, hearing that in my car today, I was very happy.
13:39I don't know why it does give me that little bit of juice and excitement.
13:43Because, again, we all know it was bad.
13:44It doesn't make it better.
13:45But when you pretend that it was fine or, like, don't want me to, the thing I can't be in
13:51general is lied to.
13:52You know what I mean?
13:53Like, you can't tell me I didn't see the thing that I saw.
13:55And when you try to gloss over it, I go, yeah, you're trying to fool me.
13:58Nope, you can't do that.
13:59And then I won't let it go.
14:00Thanks.
14:01Now I can move on.
14:02I'm good now.
14:03Bernie in Potomac Falls speaks Quinn.
14:05He says he knows what he means when he says to go all the time.
14:08Bernie, what's he trying to say?
14:10I think this is what he's trying to say, gentlemen.
14:13When you get something in a restaurant, you can have it there and only there, and you're enjoying it in
14:19that environment.
14:19When you want something to go, you're going to take it to wherever you want and use it in whatever
14:24capacity.
14:24I think it means flexibility and the ability to use it wherever.
14:29So to go is just a cliquish way of saying that skill set, that thing, wherever I can apply it.
14:35It's portable.
14:36It's versatile.
14:37It's portable.
14:38It's versatile.
14:39I'm taking it to go, meaning I might not even have figured it out.
14:42So when you eat in a restaurant, you're eating with their silverware.
14:44You're eating in that environment in an hour time.
14:47This to go means applicable in a yet-to-be-determined environment.
14:51That's my take.
14:52Okay.
14:53Well, so he actually thinks he's referencing, in other words, it's synonymous with portable, essentially, where he's like, look, this
14:59offense, we're going to run the ball.
15:01We're going to be able to play play action.
15:03We can make big plays.
15:04We can win at home.
15:05We can win on the road.
15:06This offense will be to go.
15:07I think you're, frankly, giving way too much credit.
15:11I think it's just a saying.
15:12It's just words that it's a, I have them.
15:16We all have them.
15:16We have a million.
15:17Crutches, catchphrases, things that we say, things that we do.
15:20What was the thing you always talked about early on that you said a lot in radio?
15:24Oh, I used to, but every transition, I'd go, that's good stuff.
15:26Then I moved to something else.
15:30I didn't have anything else to say about it to either the co-host or to a guest.
15:37I mean, I didn't realize I was saying it.
15:39You've definitely gotten out of it because I don't hear that very well.
15:41Well, I got shamed.
15:42I mean, our old producer, AJ, put together a montage where I, they literally, I had to stop them.
15:47After 50 different times of me saying, that's good stuff, good stuff, it's good stuff, it's good stuff, it's good
15:51stuff, it's good stuff.
15:52I go, enough of that.
15:53I'll never say that again.
15:55You know, I thought bad of that one.
15:56But yeah, I've got a million crutches.
15:57I mean, who's our, is it Nate, our buddy Nate Elger, who put together the great nanny bingo?
16:01They're all me.
16:02You have like two of them, and it's like nine things of me being like, I say this every day.
16:07I got to think of the other Quinn, Quinn-ism.
16:09Because we know, as soon as we hear it, we'll know it.
16:11Yeah, Ben Standing's on six.
16:13He's to go.
16:14He'll know, because he's in all of those press conferences.
16:17So we can ask him that.
16:18That's 40 minutes from right now on Grant and Danny.
16:21I want to talk about Jawan Jennings getting a one-year deal from the Vikings.
16:24Is that a guy Washington should have been more in on?
16:26It sounds like they didn't really ever do much due diligence on the wide receiver from the 49ers.
16:31They might have their eye on another wide receiver from San Francisco.
16:35Good stuff.
16:36Good stuff.
16:36Good stuff.
16:36Good stuff.
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