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The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 Episode 21
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00:00Kyle can get people off the show.
00:02Did I tell you that?
00:03Do you know how many people we've gotten rid of a long time ago there?
00:07Let's do the list.
00:10Every time I wanted to have a conversation with Kyle, she's like, everyone, everyone.
00:14Like, she was collecting her minions.
00:16First of all, I am minion to none.
00:18Minion to none.
00:19I did not say that you did not love your stepkids.
00:22You said you didn't know about them having two moms.
00:25I did not say that.
00:27I'm very sorry.
00:29But do you mean it?
00:32No, Erica.
00:33I'm a cold-hearted .
00:43What were you very hurt by?
00:45Something you said to me at the table.
00:46So what was it?
00:47Why are you trying to save yourself?
00:48You're doing this to save yourself.
00:50Don't put your hand in my face.
00:51You know what? When I said-
00:52Don't do that.
00:52You need to work and you need to contribute,
00:54I didn't mean you need to be a .
00:57Oh, God.
00:57Oh, Jesus.
00:59She said you're coming after me to, like, save your job?
01:03Yes.
01:04On this show?
01:05Yes.
01:05So that's what hurt you?
01:06The most.
01:07You could call me a all day, that doesn't really work.
01:09Out of everything else, that was the one thing that turned me completely out.
01:13Because?
01:15Because it's not true, and because it's hurtful.
01:17That touches such a tender point in all of us, when you're trying to be open and vulnerable.
01:23When you're trying to tell your story.
01:25But yes, that is something I just did not.
01:27It does not sit well with me then, nor now.
01:29Well, Erica, you have to understand from my point.
01:31I do understand.
01:32I'll let you speak.
01:35First off, don't.
01:37Don't what?
01:38Don't talk to me like that.
01:39Don't talk to you which way?
01:41Talking over me.
01:43Let me finish how I feel.
01:45Okay.
01:45Finish.
01:46That is exactly why I'm in the position that I'm in, or how I feel.
01:50Okay.
01:50And that's it.
01:51You unleashed on me.
01:52Yes, I did.
01:53What was it that made you explode like that?
01:57I'll tell you when I f***ing lost it.
01:59You said, Bose has supported me more than anybody in this group.
02:02Bose, you came to me, and you have shown me, in this group, more support than everyone
02:08put together.
02:10Wow.
02:10That hurt you.
02:11Beyond.
02:12Okay.
02:12See, I understand that.
02:13Yeah, it hurt me too.
02:13And had you said that to me, I would have said, Erica, you know what, I know that feeling.
02:18I remember you said the same thing to Kyle and I at Anne Marie's house.
02:22I went through something very tough recently, and I would say that the group as a whole were
02:27not there for me.
02:29Yes.
02:30I was hurt.
02:30Yes.
02:31Very hurt by that.
02:32Right.
02:32So you understand where I'm at.
02:33Absolutely.
02:34Well, now that she's told you those two things.
02:37Yes.
02:37What you just said is, wow, I understand why you would be upset.
02:41Yes.
02:41So is there anything you want to say in response to those two things?
02:45Do you want to apologize?
02:46I'll say it again.
02:48Apologize for what, Andy?
02:50Wait.
02:51I just understand.
02:52Would you two talk about it?
02:52Wait a second.
02:53Yeah.
02:53For saying the things that I said?
02:56Yes, I know, Andy.
02:56She's saying that it made her flip when you said she was doing that for her job.
03:01So do you want to apologize for saying that?
03:03I did.
03:03Oh, you did?
03:04You did?
03:06I did.
03:07When?
03:07When she said that, I said, Erica, had you told me, I said, I would have understood that.
03:11I said, I'm sorry.
03:12I would have understood had you told me both of those things.
03:14I would have understood.
03:16And I'm sorry that I made you feel that way.
03:19I did not understand how you were one person up until the night before at 3 in the morning
03:25and not even 12 hours later, there was a completely different person.
03:30No, Dorit.
03:30This had been bubbling and building.
03:32Okay.
03:33Well, there was no sign of it.
03:35Well, there was.
03:35Well, there was.
03:37You did call her a .
03:39Relentlessly over and over and over again.
03:41No, I didn't, Kyle.
03:42And she just said, you can call me a 75 times.
03:45Stop giving me that.
03:46You see how when she can say that she's supporting you for 10 years, you say.
03:49You came in and you're saying something.
03:52Completely with different reactions you need into her.
03:53Okay.
03:54You went upstairs and even called us.
03:55You are relentless, Kyle.
03:58Relentless.
03:59Okay.
03:59Okay.
04:00I will say we are going to get into Italy in a minute.
04:03I want to get back to the thing that set this all off.
04:06Dorit, you said that Sutton buddying up to Amanda was an attempt to score points with Kyle.
04:12I know.
04:12Because Kyle cares.
04:14I mean, what is that?
04:15How would that work?
04:16Well, obviously her rooming with Amanda when she really didn't have a nice relationship
04:22with her was a little bit strange.
04:24I think everybody was questioning that.
04:26Yeah, somebody had to do it.
04:28Somebody had to do it.
04:29And Amanda, you're just going to have to take this with a grain of salt.
04:32I'll do my both.
04:33Okay.
04:33And they came to me and said, Sutton, you and Jennifer are going to be rooming together.
04:38To be honest, I said, this is not fair to Jennifer.
04:41She's a frickin' movie star person.
04:44Like, no.
04:45And they said, well, you and Jennifer are like sisters.
04:48And I said, you have real sisters.
04:50So, you know, and so then they said, we'll do Amanda and Natalie.
04:54Natalie was not having that.
04:56It was Natalie until she volunteered.
04:58She wanted to be alone.
04:59Bose called me and said, you're sharing with Amanda.
05:02And I said, girl, I'm traveling with a vibrator.
05:03I don't think she wants to share my bedroom.
05:05And then I heard Natalie was not real super fond of sharing a room.
05:11So, I was like, you know what?
05:13Well, she's not here.
05:14Doesn't matter.
05:15So...
05:23Really, I was like, Amanda's having a tough time and I have been part of this.
05:27So, I was like, you know what?
05:28I'll do it.
05:28That's it.
05:29There was, like, no strategy.
05:33Like, I'm not that smart.
05:34I am...
05:35I don't play, like, that war game.
05:37I don't do that.
05:38I'm just, like, with my headphones on, I'm just doing my thing.
05:41Like, who cares?
05:42Get over it.
05:45Tori, on Watch What Happens Live, you called Sutton a social climber.
05:49Which is ridiculous.
05:50Why is Erica lucky to have Sutton as a real friend in her life now?
05:56Um, because Sutton is a social climber, so she has a lot of friends.
06:02Do you believe that?
06:03Where am I climbing to?
06:04Explain you're a socialite.
06:05Explain that I'm a socialite?
06:06Oh, yeah.
06:07Not a climber.
06:08Listen, that's part of her world and, you know...
06:10Party in the world?
06:11Where do I need to go?
06:12Well, I think you like to be invited to parties and...
06:14What parties do we...
06:15You like to...
06:15I don't know.
06:16I'm not in that world, so I don't really know.
06:18So you don't know, but you're gonna say that I like that.
06:20Yes.
06:20I mean, I just want to point out, with the exception of Rachel Zoe, she's the one that's been to
06:27the Met Ball...
06:28Many, many times.
06:29Many times.
06:29Excuse me.
06:30Excuse me, I've been to the Met.
06:32Oh, sorry.
06:32Don't leave me out of this.
06:33Okay, sorry.
06:34But, I mean, I'm saying she seems like an actual socialite.
06:38Were you offended when I called you a social climber?
06:40Well, it's not the nicest thing to say.
06:42Okay, so I apologize.
06:45Okay.
06:46You bought that apology?
06:49I don't care.
06:50What did you mean?
06:51I don't care.
06:52Exactly.
06:52I don't care about your apology more.
06:55So your friendship is in the s***.
06:57Will it come back?
07:00I mean, Wilson.
07:02I don't know.
07:04All right, let's leave this here.
07:11Coming up...
07:12Kyle, you went into this season...
07:14No.
07:15...with a plan.
07:16Oh, God.
07:16You went into a season with a plan.
07:18You came in with a plan.
07:19Doreen, you don't really believe that, do you?
07:30This is like the first year that I haven't had any sip of alcohol.
07:35Yeah.
07:36First reunion ever.
07:37That she hasn't had a sip this morning.
07:39Like, no sip of anything.
07:40That's really good.
07:41Yeah.
07:42You've done really well.
07:43I know.
07:48Welcome back to The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Reunion.
07:51This year, Bose rebranded herself as a woman madly in love, looking to expand her family.
07:58Wow.
07:59But when Bose felt knocked down by painful setbacks in her IVF journey, Keeley was more than willing
08:06to get down on one knee and pick her right back up again.
08:09Take a look at Bose's road to happily ever after.
08:13Aww.
08:14How are you feeling about meeting Keeley these days?
08:17Oh, um, pretty good.
08:18Yeah?
08:18When he's, like, proposing, I'd want him to ask me.
08:21You want him to ask your permission?
08:23Yeah.
08:23Like, you're my dad?
08:24Yeah.
08:25What?
08:26Keeley and Liel have developed a very sweet relationship.
08:29I got it.
08:30I got it.
08:31Yes, thank you.
08:31Sorry.
08:32I am so ready to move forward with the plans of Keeley because he wants a baby.
08:37We had two eggs that were retrieved.
08:40Unfortunately, neither has made it to the plasticist stage.
08:44Where in this process did things cause I'm so sorry, Bose?
08:48I can barely hear anything else beyond the roar in my ears that this hasn't worked.
08:55Right now, let's just focus on being as healthy as we can.
08:58Right?
08:58For this next round.
09:00Oh.
09:04Oh, my God.
09:09Babe.
09:11Yes, of course.
09:12Yes.
09:15This guy will go to the ends of the earth for me, and that's the kind of partner I want.
09:20Oh, my God.
09:20I'm glad that we have champagne because...
09:24Oh, my God.
09:26Oh, my God.
09:27Oh, my God.
09:28Oh, my God.
09:29Oh, my God.
09:29Oh, my God.
09:30That is so beautiful.
09:31That is beautiful.
09:32Wow.
09:33I love that Omicad.
09:35It's so good.
09:36What?
09:36Watch out, Mama Watson.
09:38There's a new missus in town.
09:42All right, congratulations, Bose.
09:46That's so great.
09:47I'm really happy for you.
09:48How's wedding planning going?
09:49Oh, my God.
09:50Well, I don't know who told me to have two weddings.
09:52I have a wedding in Ghana and a wedding in Beverly Hills, and who told me to get, like,
09:56two weddings on two continents?
09:57Like, I don't know why I'm doing that.
09:58That's a lot.
09:59That's a lot.
09:59Who here is invited to the wedding?
10:01Everybody's invited to the wedding.
10:03Oh, that's nice.
10:03I am.
10:03As long as I'm getting along with you.
10:06Will there be a bachelorette, and will there be strippers?
10:09You know what?
10:10There will be a bachelorette.
10:12I'll be in charge of the strippers.
10:14All right.
10:15I've evolved.
10:16Yes.
10:17You don't want to put me in charge of strippers.
10:18Oh, wow.
10:20It was really a year of high highs and low lows.
10:23I was so sad watching your results of your fertility journey.
10:28Where are you now with that?
10:30So, we're doing a step-by-step.
10:32We're still harvesting my own eggs.
10:35If that doesn't work, we're considering donor eggs.
10:37If that doesn't work, we're considering adoption.
10:39Great.
10:40Wow.
10:41You have a lot of options.
10:42We do.
10:43It's a privilege.
10:44You know what I want to say to that is that I think in single life now,
10:47I just want to make a point because I've been dating younger guys.
10:51Not like in their 20s, but younger guys.
10:52I never thought about, wait, they actually want a child.
10:56Well, what are you going to do then?
10:58Well, well, well, not right now.
11:03Bose, fans had a strong reaction to the dinner that you and Keely and Leal had in San Diego.
11:09Oh, Lord.
11:10What if, like, I lost my source of income or lost my job?
11:17You know, how would you still feel about me?
11:21Pam Oliver on Twitter said, y'all are really not listening to these men.
11:26They tell on themselves every time.
11:28He's setting the stage for when he no longer has an income.
11:32It's a red flag.
11:33You did not seem worried by what he said.
11:36No, I wasn't worried at all because in that moment we were sharing our vulnerabilities about what our biggest fear
11:41is about each other.
11:42I mean, look, I think most men feel like they're providers.
11:45He knows I have been independently wealthy for a long time.
11:48And so for him, he's like, hey, look, if I don't have any income, like, are you going to leave
11:52me?
11:53And I don't think that there's anything wrong with being vulnerable about that.
11:56Oh, no, Steph.
11:57Kyle, you were asked on the after show what you would say if your man said that to you.
12:02Well, how would you feel if your penis fell off? Because it just did.
12:06You're right.
12:07Kyle, you said that.
12:08Kyle.
12:09No, I wasn't referring to him.
12:11I'm saying if my husband said, what if I, you know, didn't have my job to take care of me.
12:15But by the way, I think that a lot of men equate their money to their penis.
12:19Yeah.
12:19You know what I mean?
12:20A big dick and a big wallet.
12:21No money, no honey.
12:23Okay.
12:24Well, Boze, I asked you on Watch What Happens Live what you think Amanda is good at.
12:29And you responded, scamming.
13:00I didn't, I didn't, I didn't actually mean it.
13:04I was pretty angry at the time.
13:07I was like, what the hell is she comparing us for?
13:09I know, when did I compare us?
13:11Girl, you compared us a lot.
13:12Tell me.
13:13I was jealous of you.
13:14What do you think Bo's just trying to compare her own accomplishments to yours?
13:17Because her digital course doesn't make money and mine makes millions of dollars.
13:21I didn't say you're jealous of me.
13:23You said I was jealous of you.
13:24There were so many things that you were saying afterwards that I was like, wait.
13:28I didn't hear any of this when we were together.
13:31That's not true.
13:31So I was angry and I said you were scamming.
13:34But it was more like the fact that I didn't understand what the hell you're doing.
13:38I don't think you're jealous of me.
13:39Thank you, because I'm not.
13:41Amanda, Bo's was one of the first people that you spoke to about your business.
13:45And during that conversation, I'm wondering if you got the feeling that she was skeptical about you
13:50or did it catch you by surprise once the show aired and you saw what she had to say about
13:55it?
13:55I'm going to take it in parts.
13:57Oh, boy.
13:59Okay.
14:00I feel like no matter what I say, it's being questioned.
14:03There is no room to explain myself.
14:05I love my stepkids as my own.
14:07That's questioned.
14:08Like, everything was questioned.
14:10No, no, no, no.
14:10That was questioned.
14:12I did not say that you did not love your stepkids.
14:14So don't do that.
14:16Okay, what did you say?
14:17I asked if they were his kids.
14:19How many kids do you have?
14:20Four.
14:21You're four?
14:22Yeah.
14:22The older two are my stepkids.
14:24They're nine and seven.
14:25They're his kids.
14:27His.
14:28I'm raising them.
14:30And that is a very different thing from do you love your stepkids.
14:34How did you conflate those two things?
14:36Because you said in your interview, I don't know about this, the kids having two moms, but
14:39that's the reality.
14:40No, I did not say that.
14:41Again, misquoting me.
14:43What did you say?
14:44How did I conflate it?
14:44You made it sound like I said you shouldn't love your stepkids.
14:47Like, I don't believe that children should be loved if they are not birthed by you.
14:51I didn't say that.
14:51And that is insane.
14:52I would never say that.
14:54You said they can't, you didn't know about them having two moms, but-
14:57I did not say that.
14:58Is that not what was in the interview?
15:00I didn't say that, no.
15:01What was the interview say about, something about two moms?
15:03We'll find it.
15:04I don't know if I'd like another woman calling my daughter her daughter.
15:09There's only one mama.
15:10That's me.
15:12I said they can't have two moms?
15:14I never said that.
15:15Who would say that?
15:16I don't know.
15:16All right, I want to move on to a sensitive topic, something that, unfortunately, Amanda
15:21and Bo's share in common, which is that you both have been through the tragedy of losing
15:27a child.
15:28As a parent, I just cannot imagine what you've endured, and we're so grateful to you for
15:34sharing your stories.
15:36Amanda, was there any catharsis in sharing Zion's story with the world?
15:42Yeah, surprisingly, I didn't expect it.
15:45But a lot of people who lost babies in the NICU at early ages, a lot of thanking me, I
15:51didn't expect that.
15:52It was nice.
15:54Bo, as you said, this was an example of Amanda guarding information to use as currency.
16:00Yeah.
16:00What do you mean by that?
16:01I mean, obviously, like we said, I have an experience that is similar.
16:06And when I face those anniversaries, there are some days when I can't get out of bed.
16:12And it is very difficult to talk about any kind of death like that, because people will
16:19shut down.
16:21So I just found it to be using it in a very strategic way versus in an emotional way.
16:28It wasn't strategic.
16:29I just didn't know how else to tell you I couldn't.
16:32And when you said it in the moment, it wasn't that it didn't register.
16:39First of all, when I approached you, I wasn't looking for a fight.
16:43I was looking to understand.
16:44I think we had a few things going on at once.
16:46I had just left speaking with the psychic, which made me emotional.
16:50And yes, the cost was a harsh word.
16:52But it was harsher than I had experienced you.
16:55Like, we had only had really, really nice interactions.
16:57That I'm seeing this side of you that did feel, you know, more aggressive.
17:03I think I said an attack energy.
17:04You were not attacking me.
17:06You thought I was accosting you.
17:08That's the way you interpreted.
17:10Okay, but we're talking about that moment.
17:13Right.
17:13For the state of mind I was in, I see why I felt that way.
17:17And I'm aware you didn't know.
17:19I didn't think it was.
17:20I wish I did.
17:21I wish I knew at that point.
17:24Okay, I think we made some progress.
17:27Well, I'm going to move on.
17:28While an overwhelmed Dorit looked for support this season,
17:32Kyle's comments about her spending and her erratic behavior
17:35landed with a bigger thud than the plane Dorit boarded almost two hours late.
17:41And when Erica got dragged into the mess, things got so heated,
17:45even the Tuscan gelato couldn't cool everyone down.
17:49Let's take a look.
17:50Today at the store, she was shopping like crazy, by the way.
17:53Just fine, too much stuff.
17:55In my opinion, that's too much fun to be spending in a situation.
17:57I like this.
17:58I love this.
17:59I'm going to have a whole new workshop.
18:00That one didn't go through.
18:01Do you have another one?
18:02No, I don't know.
18:03I wasn't even worried when I heard she bought, like, a Kelly like yours.
18:08What the hell?
18:09I bought it for my birthday.
18:10But you've got a looming financial crisis.
18:13I don't know if it's a magnet or if it's, like, OCD kicking in.
18:18And of course I am concerned about Dorit and what she's going through.
18:20But I'd rather talk to the people Dorit is actually listening to and maybe they can get to her.
18:27She's kind of in her own little world.
18:29Yeah.
18:29On the phone and looking for her.
18:31Right, right, right.
18:31A little OCD.
18:32She's just, like, kind of all over the place.
18:34Kyle is just, like, I'm worried about Dorit because she's buying things and sometimes you show up late to things.
18:40Her moods are erratic a little bit.
18:42She knows I'm going through a contentious divorce right now.
18:45And she thinks this is the best course of action to give him something to use against me.
18:51By the way, everyone has been saying this.
18:54I'm not going to let you do what you do.
18:56He literally does it every time.
18:57Feels like Kyle is just trying to drive a wedge between me and whomever.
19:01All right, let's go, girls.
19:02I'm not going anywhere.
19:04I am.
19:06She really just drove off and left us here.
19:09This friendship sucks.
19:10Like, this is not a girl friendship.
19:12I don't care if you bought a Kelly with your advancement.
19:14It seems like you do.
19:15Quit whiting my ass all the f***ing time.
19:18Oh, gosh.
19:19What is your real reason for having this resentment towards me?
19:22Or am I just a scapegoat for your misery in your life right now?
19:25She's going through a f***ing time.
19:26We're all going through a f***ing time, Rachel.
19:28I agree with that.
19:28You're going through a f***ing time?
19:29My husband went to prison.
19:31Eh?
19:32Dorit, you're an asshole.
19:33And you're a f***ing.
19:35There's only so much that friends can take before they go, you know what?
19:38This is not what it is.
19:39I don't need to be treated like this.
19:42Maybe PK wasn't wrong.
19:43Oh.
19:44I can't believe I just said that.
19:45No, me neither.
19:52What's your reaction to that?
19:53You know, it's something else.
19:56These two women can sit here on the couch, screaming.
20:00The s***.
20:02Not you, Erica.
20:03But the s***.
20:04The last few months.
20:06I was going through so much s*** with PK.
20:10With my kids.
20:12And I had to show up every single day.
20:14And I had to have something else directed from you, Kyle.
20:18From you.
20:19And you can sit here and argue how everything is about the group.
20:23Everyone both said it.
20:24And Rachel said it.
20:25And Amanda said it.
20:27Kyle, you went into this season...
20:29No.
20:29...with a plan.
20:30Oh, gosh.
20:31You went into this season with a plan.
20:33You came in with a plan.
20:34She wanted to make me look bad.
20:35No.
20:36No, Doreen.
20:37Are you kidding me?
20:38Kyle, don't react to that.
20:38That's all you've done.
20:39Every time.
20:40Doreen, you don't really believe that, do you?
20:58What was the plan?
20:59She wanted to make me look bad.
21:01No.
21:01No, Doreen.
21:02Are you kidding me?
21:03Kyle, don't react to that.
21:04All you've done.
21:04Every time.
21:05Doreen, you don't really believe that, do you?
21:09Yes.
21:11I have never said anything bad, ever.
21:14Kyle, do you really think saying that I'm manic, saying that I'm erratic, when I'm going
21:18through the divorce that I'm going through, when you yourself are claiming that I should
21:23be worried because you're so afraid of what PK is going to do to me?
21:25I said to you, in Italy, that was the wrong choice of words.
21:29You said to me, in Italy, after you had said it to every single woman.
21:32And Bo was on the phone with me.
21:33And by the way, Bo said things that she was concerned about.
21:36It wasn't aired for whatever reason.
21:38She said something, too.
21:39To clear things up, I told Doreen, who disagreed with me, that I believe that your concern
21:45was valid.
21:45Yes.
21:45I did see that.
21:46I said that again and again.
21:47Multiple times.
21:48And again.
21:48And again.
21:49And it wasn't shown?
21:50Yes.
21:51I saw it.
21:52I saw it.
21:53She wants to make the effort, but is having a hard time because you're not letting her in.
21:58I believe that Kyle, it has your best interests at heart.
22:02I actually do believe that Kyle is very concerned for you.
22:06So here's my thing.
22:08Her feeling is that you were initiating these conversations.
22:12I think this is a very big point that she's making so loud.
22:16She's not hearing it.
22:16Okay.
22:17So do you feel that you were bringing up the topic to others?
22:21I brought it to the table.
22:22When I was speaking with, when we were at the airport, it was both Rachel and I stressed
22:26about her being so late.
22:27Okay.
22:28In the Hamptons.
22:29She said something about, you know, when you're in a financial crisis and whatever.
22:32We were both talking mutually.
22:33That's what I was trying to explain to Dorit.
22:35Kyle, you brought it up to every single person.
22:36That's not true, Dorit.
22:37Every single person first.
22:38It's all aired.
22:40Can you step in, please?
22:41Lori said this.
22:41When we talked in the Hamptons, we started talking about how she was behaving.
22:45And I said, gosh, well, I'm concerned too because she has a looming financial crisis.
22:50That's right.
22:50And then I got really scared.
22:52Then I took it to Dorit.
22:54If there was trust between the two of you, she would need me.
22:58To come and tell that, like, hey, look, I'm worried about Dorit.
23:01She would need me.
23:01You really think that she's worried?
23:03I think she's worried.
23:04You really think she's worried?
23:05Yeah.
23:06And I always defended you, your care and concern.
23:09When we got to her book party, I felt foolish.
23:12We had not been speaking, obviously, since Italy.
23:15And even on the best of terms, it would have been so hard to pull off getting dressed and
23:21going and filming when I was, my daughter was getting married in a couple days at that point.
23:25Literally.
23:25So I sent Dorit a text because she is important to me.
23:28And then you go off on your interview speaking so negatively, trying to paint this portrait
23:31of me being this horrible friend to her.
23:33And I didn't show up.
23:34Kyle is making it really, really difficult to continue to defend that I believe her intentions
23:39are good.
23:40That just feels like, oh, come on.
23:41You could have put a little effort.
23:42However, if she's truly concerned about Dorit's financial situation, then she would be here
23:48tonight to celebrate Dorit's financial win.
23:50But she's not.
23:52Look, I also am not psychic.
23:54I hadn't talked to you.
23:55I didn't know why you weren't going.
23:56I talked to Sutton.
23:58I'm trying to have this friendship with you.
24:00Yeah.
24:00And I love you.
24:01I think you're amazing.
24:02And I'm like, I see that.
24:03And I'm like, I'm never going to be able to have that friendship with you because of
24:06this.
24:06And I can understand how it would feel like that.
24:08I want to feel like there's room for us.
24:10Yes.
24:10As separate from the situation.
24:12And that's why I asked you to work out with me.
24:13I didn't want to knock you over the head with a dumbbell.
24:16Sutton and Erica, Dorit believes that the two of you turned on her.
24:20No.
24:20Because Kyle got to you.
24:21No.
24:22Well, first I want to say, I'm sorry that you feel like I turned on you.
24:26That I really am.
24:27Because that's exactly how I felt.
24:29And I'm really sorry about that.
24:32I think it felt like every time I wanted to have a conversation with Kyle, she's like, everyone,
24:35everyone, everyone, like she was collecting her minions.
24:38She's not, first of all, I am minion to none.
24:42Minion to none.
24:43Yeah, there's not a jumping on the Kyle train.
24:45No one can make me do anything.
24:48That's a very hard task.
24:50And I would not follow Kyle's orders.
24:54I just wouldn't.
24:56You wouldn't bow down to the altar of Kyle Richards?
25:01I, Sutton Strack...
25:03Yes.
25:04...am not going to bow down at the altar...
25:09To Kyle.
25:10...of Kyle Richards.
25:13No, ma'am.
25:15There he goes.
25:16You've cleared it up.
25:17Dorit, what is it about Kyle that you think makes everyone want to please her?
25:22I think they think that she has the power to get anyone off the show.
25:28Well, don't speak to me when you say that, because I don't feel that way about Kyle.
25:31You know, Erica thinks that?
25:32I know Erica thinks that.
25:34You think that Kyle could get people off the show?
25:36Did I tell you that?
25:37Yes.
25:37Do you know when people would have gotten rid of a long time ago there?
25:40I mean...
25:41Let's do the list.
25:42I mean, I definitely would have been off then, huh?
25:45Kyle owns Bravo.
25:47Andy, you've got to watch this step.
25:48Watch it, Andy.
25:50I don't think that.
25:51Wait a minute.
25:51Whoever did say that, it's not true.
25:54I know that.
25:54I mean, just because I've been here.
25:56I know that.
25:56But trust me, if she had that power, I would not be here.
26:00It is a misconception out in the world, though.
26:02People would be like, is Kyle a producer?
26:04Did Kyle bring you on?
26:06Well, that's what they used to say about Vanderbilt.
26:08That used to be a narrative about Lisa.
26:11Didn't Camille say that the reason why she was not on the show is because Kyle blackballed her?
26:17I know one of the big gripes with Dorit this year was her lateness.
26:21But with all due respect to you, aren't you always kind of late?
26:26Yes, this is what I mean.
26:27Okay, so was it worse this year?
26:29Yes, and Dorit is a very important part of this cast and making it work.
26:33And when you disappear for two hours, we need you in the conversation.
26:36Right.
26:36We need you in the conversation.
26:38We need you on...
26:39What are you talking about, disappear for two hours?
26:40The pizza party.
26:42Where did Dorit go?
26:43Did she leave for the night?
26:44I'm not sure.
26:45I don't know where she is.
26:46I don't know what she's doing.
26:48Everyone followed within five minutes.
26:51Because you left.
26:52I was at the pizza party the entire night, Erica.
26:55I got up very late.
26:56Even though it's been 30 minutes, it was actually way more late.
26:59Okay, okay, can I say this?
27:01You don't seem especially sorry about it.
27:04No, I'm tired of being attacked.
27:08Attacked.
27:08Nobody attacked you.
27:09What do you think this is?
27:11Gentle coddling?
27:13I'm tired of having defend myself constantly.
27:18No one said anything to you in Italy.
27:20And you know why we don't?
27:21You say, come to me.
27:22Well, we can talk about it.
27:23The reason nobody wants is because you're agnist.
27:24I said, don't talk me out of my back.
27:27That's what I said.
27:47No, when we say it to your face, you get defensive.
27:53We're saying it now when you are.
27:56I'm very sorry.
27:58But do you mean it?
27:59No, Erica.
28:00I'm a cold-hearted f***ing c***.
28:06You really like that word.
28:07Yes, I mean it.
28:09Okay.
28:09And I have a lot of empathy for people when they are late.
28:12Sutton was four hours late in Sedona.
28:14Did Sutton get reamed?
28:16It was in four hours.
28:17Can I ask you a question?
28:18Something that really struck me was how hard Erica was crying at the table after you left.
28:26I've never, in ten years of her being on the show, seen her like that.
28:32I'm sorry, honey.
28:34These two have protected me and helped me.
28:42And the three of us are very tight.
28:44When you saw that, it made you step back and think, as much as she lashed out at you, she
28:50clearly was in pain about your friendship.
28:52And I would say, Andy, had the situation not happened with the cover release, it would have.
28:58But, you know, she didn't even bother to text me, call me, let me know.
29:02Is there anything she has said to you today?
29:05She's now told you the reason she flipped.
29:08Yes.
29:09She has told you that you saying to her that she was trying to save her job.
29:15Right.
29:16By speaking up to you.
29:19Which, I'm assuming you feel denigrates your intention towards the conversation.
29:25Not only the intention, but the relationship, all of it.
29:28Right.
29:29Yeah.
29:29I guess it was out of character.
29:30You and I don't have that friendship.
29:32It didn't feel like anything I did merited.
29:34And that's why I asked you, please tell me what I said.
29:37Please tell me what I did.
29:38What did I do to you, Erica?
29:39Share with me what I did.
29:40Do you not remember what you did to me in Italy at the table?
29:42Tell me.
29:43How low you went and all the things you said?
29:45Tell me, please.
29:46I said to you a hundred times, Erica, please tell me.
29:49Because I could not say it out loud.
29:54All you kept saying?
29:55Kylan, I feel.
29:56Kylan, I feel.
29:57Kylan, I feel.
29:57I said, Erica, please tell me what I did.
30:00Me thinking that you had that big reaction because you had to do this.
30:05Because someone's telling you, you have to go after Dorit.
30:08No one ever told me that.
30:10Because it felt like that was the reigning theme.
30:12No one has ever asked me to go after you.
30:16Okay.
30:16So, hold on.
30:17What I see in your behavior happens to agree with what she sees.
30:22It's different for us.
30:23Okay, but you never said a word.
30:24That's right.
30:25Honey, I'm saying to you, here, now, because you're telling me for the first time, and I
30:30said both times, both things.
30:31I just wanted to say it in this forum.
30:34She said it ten, well, you said it ten minutes ago.
30:36Did I just say to you over there, I don't want to say this, but I will?
30:40Yes.
30:40I said it to him.
30:42I don't want to say what?
30:42She didn't want to say to you that she was upset because you accused her of lashing
30:50out at her to save her job.
30:52In order to save my job, I f***ing told him!
30:54She didn't want to say it, and I said, you have to say that to her.
30:57That's the reason, and you have to figure out why that hurt you so much.
31:02For that to be enough to not show up, to not message me, that hurts.
31:08Yes, but that is the key component to me just being like, f*** this entire situation.
31:23I've, I was really sad.
31:27Well, I'm sorry.
31:32Dorit, I have a question.
31:34Yeah.
31:34And I don't want to be a troublemaker, but I am curious.
31:37I'm sitting and looking at two people that the three of you have loved each other, and
31:43I'm feeling a little bad for my baby sister sitting at the end, because it seems to me
31:51that the way I'm feeling is that you really are only caring about what Erica...
32:00I love that you're coming in for her, and you, you see that.
32:04Kyle and I had a long, full day of back and forth, back and forth.
32:08Okay, but I just feel like you haven't been, like, up front with her and told her what it is.
32:13It can't just be because she talked with PK a few times on the phone.
32:17No.
32:18Do you know what I'm saying?
32:18No, because she was talking behind my back to everybody, telling them I'm erratic, and I said to her,
32:24I'm going through an acrimonious divorce.
32:25Do you know what you're doing, potentially, to me, by putting it out there?
32:30Dorit, I never had bad intention in any of this.
32:33The problem with you is you want to have only yes people around you.
32:36No, I don't.
32:37And any time someone says something that you don't like...
32:38I don't have yes people around me, Kyle.
32:39They're the enemy.
32:40No.
32:41But that's my try.
32:41You only want yes people.
32:42You sit in your interviews, trying to portray me...
32:44Kyle, you are fighting too hard for a relationship that no longer exists.
32:48No, now I'm fighting to defend a character that doesn't...
32:50I don't...
32:50That's whatever.
32:51Now I'm fighting to defend this character that you made up for me that doesn't exist.
32:55I'm sick of defending this character with you.
32:56Oh, I've made it up, Kyle.
32:57Yes, you have, Dorit.
32:58But also, too, you ripped down the cameras and stole the van.
33:03Si.
33:03Voy a turnar.
33:09I'm good.
33:10Okay, you're good?
33:11I'm good.
33:11All right.
33:13See you back at the...
33:13I'm taking...
33:14I'm turning these off, just so you know.
33:15Yeah, all right.
33:16Hey!
33:18You've got to be kidding me.
33:19Okay, I want to move on to something else.
33:21Dorit, you may not agree with the judgments that were thrown your way this year,
33:25but I wonder if there's anything that was said that did make you stop and think and say,
33:30wow, I should really work on that.
33:32Listen, I think the late thing, it gives me a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety.
33:36I don't want to be late.
33:37Okay.
33:38In fact, today, if you notice, coming into the...
33:42I was not going to be the last person to read it.
33:44I was not going to be the last person to stage.
33:47You were second to last, though.
33:48Was I last?
33:49No.
33:50No, no.
33:50Was anyone waiting on me?
33:51No.
33:52Okay, was anyone waiting on me?
33:53No.
33:55So, you know, I have to say, Kyle, Dorit, and Erica, you have been through an incredible
34:01amount over the years, whether it's Dorit's robbery, Erica's legal issues, Kyle's separation.
34:10I wonder where you go from here.
34:13For me, I don't hold a grudge.
34:16You know, I'm sad about this because, regardless, I do love Dorit, and I do want the best for her.
34:23You know, right now, maybe we just need to have that little space.
34:29You know, this is selfish of me, but I want the Dorit back that I know and I love.
34:33Oh.
34:34Well.
34:34And, you know, well, I'm just saying how I feel.
34:37I'm sure you do.
34:39I'm sure you do.
34:40But she's not here right now.
34:42So, I'm good on a break.
34:44I'm good with, like, having a break.
34:46I heard an expression.
34:47You find out who your real friends are, not when things are easy, but when things are difficult.
34:52Want to know who your friends are?
34:53Go broke.
34:54Want to know who your friends are?
34:55Go to jail.
34:57Want to know who your friends are?
34:58Ask them to help you bury a body.
34:59I don't know.
35:00You'll find out who's there for you.
35:02So, I'll knock on your door when things are really good with me.
35:05Don't worry, Erica.
35:07Okay.
35:07I actually prefer it that way.
35:09I don't want to invest my time and energy in friendships that my heart is in it, but
35:16for them, they only want to be around when things are good.
35:23Me getting upset and taking a step back for a second, that's for me, not for you.
35:28No problem.
35:28And for you to say something and discount our friendship like that lets me know where you
35:34are, how you feel, and how you view me.
35:36For me to say that to discount our friendship, do you know what you just said?
35:39Yeah, I do.
35:40You said, I want the Dorit that I knew, so I'm going to take a step back until she comes
35:45back.
35:45What's wrong with that?
35:47Because this person is not really nice right now and not going through a lot.
35:50Why should I be Erica?
35:51Erica.
35:51Because I love you and we are friends.
35:54Erica.
35:54And I don't deserve this.
35:55Honey, listen to me.
35:56To be perfectly honest with you.
35:58I'm drawing a boundary.
35:59I'm drawing boundaries.
36:00Sounds like you both are.
36:01Because to me, guess what?
36:02Like, I think that two people can do the same thing.
36:05Yes, exactly.
36:05And you can respect that.
36:07That's right.
36:07But you can't, like, on it.
36:11I came into the reunion tonight and I very much wanted to hear because I hadn't spoken
36:15to Erica and I wanted to voice how I felt and the same thing with Kyle.
36:19But I need, I need a break.
36:22It sounds like you both do.
36:24Yeah.
36:24And on that note, we're going to take a break.
36:28Yes, thank God.
36:29We'll be back with final thoughts after this.
36:47Hi, we're wrapping right now.
36:50Cassie is literally talking.
36:52That's right.
36:53We're finishing now.
36:54Five, four, three, two, one.
36:58All right.
36:59It is Andy back with final thoughts from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
37:04Ladies, this has been a year of change.
37:06Newcomers made big impressions.
37:09Longtime friendships were tested.
37:11And sitting here right now, I think it is clear that we are not going to be able to put
37:16everything back together today.
37:18As we wrap up, I want everyone to look forward and tell me what they're manifesting
37:23for the year ahead.
37:25It's the Amanda Francis impact.
37:29You're welcome.
37:31Isn't it a moment?
37:33You're a moment.
37:34I could use a cheese and meat moment.
37:37You're a moment.
37:38You don't like my butter yellow moment?
37:41It's really a moment.
37:44Kathy, what are you manifesting for next year?
37:46Happiness and good health for everyone and for all of us to be full of joy.
37:52Tilly?
37:53That I will win the main event at the World Series of Poker.
37:56I like that.
37:57I like that.
37:57Wow.
37:58That's a big one.
37:59Amanda?
38:00What am I manifesting?
38:01Yes.
38:02You better have an answer.
38:04Okay.
38:04I'm manifesting more goodness for everyone here.
38:07I'm manifesting more of everything I want.
38:09I have a great life.
38:09I want more of it.
38:12Erica?
38:13Being completely free from my old life, meaning, you know, everything wrapped up in beautiful
38:17and a bow, and on to new things, you know, on to a new existence.
38:24Sutton Brown?
38:25A man in my life.
38:27Ooh.
38:28Man-o-festing.
38:30Someone already owns the title of that course.
38:33Oh, Lord.
38:34Rachel Zoe?
38:35Hot girl fall.
38:37Honestly, that I keep laughing my way through life and a guy that makes me laugh and that
38:41I want to make out with.
38:42Oh.
38:43Dorit?
38:44That PK and I can stay on a good track, and the future in 2026 is exactly what I think
38:51it's going to be, which is my year.
38:54All right.
38:55Kyle?
38:55I'm manifesting that I survived my daughter's moving out, and I'm manifesting peace for myself
39:03within and within this group.
39:05Okay, Bose.
39:07I'm manifesting never hearing the word manifesting again.
39:09Hallelujah.
39:10How about that?
39:11I like that one.
39:12And I want to finish things off with a toast.
39:16In Beverly Hills, matcha is having a moment.
39:19So we thought apropos to channel that into our drink of choice tonight, a ceremonial-grade
39:27matchatini, Amanda.
39:29What an impact I had.
39:30And yes, Tilly, it has alcohol in it.
39:34And while we hand these out, let's also celebrate the birthday girl.
39:39Yay, Kathy.
39:41Love you, Kathy.
39:42Love you, Kathy.
39:44Yay.
39:44Take a toast.
39:45Make a wish.
39:46The big one's from me.
39:47Cheers.
39:48The big one's from Kyle, Kathy.
39:50Oh, my goodness.
39:51Yay.
39:53Who wants to make a toast?
39:55Here is to hopefully learning and growing from everything we went through this season together.
39:59May everybody find peace and happiness in this year within themselves and their relationships,
40:04and especially right now, I'm feeling in this group.
40:07And regardless of what anything we've gone through, I do love and care back to Dory,
40:11and I hope we can all find peace together one day.
40:13And I love you all, too.
40:14Cheers.
40:15Cheers.
40:16Cheers.
40:16Cheers, everyone.
40:17Cheers.
40:18Cheers.
40:18Cheers to 15 more seasons.
40:20Macho's wonderful.
40:21I want to thank the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills for a banger of a season.
40:25I'm Andy Cohen.
40:26Good night, everybody.
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