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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 86: Conan O'Brien, Matthew Fox
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Conan O'Brien and Matthew Fox
00:08with the Kletos!
00:11And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:30Thank you for watching, thank you for coming and joining us here in Hollywood.
00:40I don't know if you saw it, but it's very exciting.
00:43Just, we're directly across the street from the Dolby Theatre
00:46where they've already rolled out the red carpet for the Oscars on Sunday.
00:50Look at that, they made Conan do the carpet rolling out himself.
00:54You know, there's a lot more to hosting than just doing the show.
00:56There's a good deal of manual labor involved.
00:58And tonight, we have the host of the Oscars.
01:01Conan O'Brien is here with us.
01:03He's making that show for the second time.
01:06He's here for the second time.
01:08Not only is Conan hosting the show, he is in a nominated movie.
01:11He has a big part in the movie, If I Had Legs, I'd Kick You,
01:15starring Rose Byrne, who is nominated for Best Actress.
01:18Conan had a lot of scenes with her.
01:20Guillermo, this is, this is what it would be like
01:22if you had been nominated for Best Actress the year I hosted the show.
01:26Yeah, exactly, yes.
01:27You'll be on the red carpet this year, right?
01:29Yeah, I will be right there, Jimmy.
01:31Okay.
01:31Making people happy and getting drunk.
01:34Oh.
01:35You know, I'm glad you brought that up.
01:36Yeah.
01:37Because last year, we had a real controversy.
01:40I was very upset about it.
01:41One of the other red carpet guys tried to steal, and in fact did steal, Guillermo's signature
01:46move of giving tequila to the stars.
01:48And the name of that thief is Mario Lopez.
01:51And I just want to say, for his sake, I hope it doesn't happen again.
01:55Because you don't mess with Guillermo twice.
01:58This little mogwai will turn into a gremlin like that.
02:02And I would, Mario, I would hate to see anything happen to that beautiful face of yours.
02:07The mood around the Oscars is a little bit tense this year.
02:11You know, they beefed up security after the FBI warned law enforcement here in California
02:17that Iran is aspiring to launch a drone strike on the West Coast, which is where we all are right
02:24now.
02:24So that's...
02:25Isn't this how Iron Man 3 started the movement?
02:28We can't handle a drone strike.
02:31We barely survived the writer's strike here, okay?
02:34And I hope these Iranians realize, Donald Trump wants you to bomb us.
02:39For him, that would be a win-win.
02:41He might even bomb us himself and blame it on you, okay?
02:45Just keep that in mind.
02:47I wonder how we're gonna look back at that.
02:48You know, I mentioned last night, many of Trump's advisors are urging him
02:51to just declare victory in Iran and get out.
02:54And with the midterms coming up, some members of the House and Senate
02:57would like him to consider that advice, too.
03:00I think we ought to say to our heroes, thank you for a job well done.
03:04This has been absolutely amazing.
03:06It's been astounding.
03:07It's been historic.
03:08And now it's time to declare victory.
03:10Yeah.
03:10Sounds like a man with a lot of confidence in his commander-in-chief.
03:13Dinner was great.
03:15Thank you so much.
03:15Good night.
03:16I'm leaving.
03:17Somehow we are in an even bigger mess than we were last month and the month before that.
03:22Our president is a disaster, and everyone around him is too scared to bring that up.
03:26I mean, we have credible threats of retaliatory drone attacks on California.
03:32And this guy today is in Kentucky, reminiscing about the way Obama went down the stairs.
03:38The only thing I admired about Barack Hussein Obama, which was nothing, actually.
03:42The only thing is the way he bobbed down.
03:45Remember, he'd bop.
03:47Hey, you talk about unpresidential.
03:50He's bopping.
03:51And I couldn't believe that he made it without at least a noticeable major fall.
03:57Yeah, that's right.
03:58Real presidents don't bop.
04:00They waddle.
04:01Okay?
04:02And then Trump got a visit from a celebrity who could be our next president of the United States.
04:09Come here, Jake.
04:10Say it if you want.
04:13Yeah, what Mr. Trump has taught me is courage.
04:16You know, we never back down from a fight, even if they're much bigger than you, much, much bigger than
04:21you.
04:21I wonder if Jake knows Trump got a note from his podiatrist to dodge the draft.
04:25Do you think maybe he kept that a wonderful secret from Jake?
04:29But I'm glad he's inspired.
04:30We need, you know, I'll tell you something.
04:32If there's one American who even has a chance to bring the world together, it definitely isn't Jake Paul.
04:37It is the Pope.
04:39Pope Leo, who's from Chicago, urged both the United States and Iran.
04:43He said, stop the spiral of violence before it becomes an irreparable abyss, which is such a Chicago thing to
04:51say.
04:52At St. Peter's today, Pope Leo met a, look at this, a baby version of himself.
04:57Which, don't worry, the kid is not his.
05:01Well, he looks just like him.
05:02The Pope blessed the little pontiff.
05:04It's very cute.
05:05The costume really paid off.
05:06You have to eat that baby Yoda, you know?
05:09In New Mexico this week, state investigators in Santa Fe are searching Jeffrey Epstein's former property, which is known as
05:17Zorro Ranch.
05:18They named it after Zorro because it looks like they redacted his face.
05:22But what they're looking for, I don't know.
05:25And all this time Epstein was being investigated, they never thought to search his ranch.
05:30I mean, he bought it in 1993.
05:32What do these investigators think they're gonna find now?
05:36UB40 CDs?
05:38His Mrs. Doubtfire on VHS?
05:40The head of the House Oversight Committee, James Comer Pyle, was on Fox News today to explain why the Department
05:47of Justice didn't finish their investigation in New Mexico.
05:50Here he is doing his best to tap dance through this.
05:53The federal government asked New Mexico to stop their investigation, I believe, back in 2019.
06:01Wait, wait, wait.
06:02Who was president in 2019?
06:04Oh, Trump?
06:05Okay, got it.
06:06But I'm sure that had nothing to do with the investigation being stopped.
06:09By the way, today Epstein's accountant reportedly told the House Oversight Committee that the Epstein assay paid a settlement to
06:16one of the women who made accusations against a certain current president of the United States.
06:21Which is nice, you know?
06:22Friends taking care of friends.
06:24It's a positive thing.
06:25This friendship between Don and Jeff has now been memorialized with a sculpture that was done by an anonymous artist
06:32depicting Trump and Epstein in a piece inspired by the movie Titanic.
06:37They're kings of the world.
06:40Which is, um...
06:42I don't know, I think that would look great in his new ballroom, right?
06:45And while Epstein and his friends are being investigated in the House and the Senate, there are signs that the
06:51MAGA coalition is starting to crack.
06:53Senator John Kennedy, no relation, who's from Louisiana, took a little shot during a discussion of sugary drinks at Robert
07:00Kennedy, the Secretary of Health.
07:02I voted for Secretary Kennedy to be the president's choice.
07:07I like Secretary Kennedy.
07:09I don't agree with everything that Secretary Kennedy has said and done.
07:15Um, we have some differences.
07:18Um, I use a toilet seat to sit on.
07:23If you don't get it, RFK recently revealed that he snorted cocaine off a toilet seat.
07:29And John Kennedy just wanted us to have the visual of him sitting on one, so thanks.
07:33The Senate this week approved the use of AI chatbots for lawmakers and staff doing official business.
07:41Once again, illustrating that no one in our government has seen any of the Terminator movies.
07:45It's unclear exactly how the senators would use AI, but one thing we do know is that when it comes
07:51to tech, these guys know their stuff.
07:53Don't you think your hyperbolic statements undermine your credibility?
08:01What hyperbolic statement did I make?
08:03On February the 11th, 2026, you posted on BlueSki.
08:14BlueSki, it's a social media site for Polish liberals.
08:18BlueSki, you know, we got a lot of old guys in charge.
08:22And that's, that's so good for the future.
08:27Meanwhile, our founding frauder is still trying to prove he won the election he lost six years ago.
08:34The FBI seized records related to a comprehensive election audit in Phoenix that was ordered by their Republican state Senate
08:42in 2021, which concluded that not only wasn't the election tilted in favor of Joe Biden, when they counted it
08:48all back up, Biden got 99 more votes than he was originally reported.
08:52And Trump had 261 fewer votes.
08:54But that doesn't stop the bigliest loser.
08:57Trump keeps screaming about 2020.
09:00Here's how long that election went.
09:02In 2020, Kim and Kanye were still married.
09:05We hadn't even heard the word squid and game together yet.
09:08The number one song was WAP.
09:10And Will Smith was still everyone's favorite non-slappy movie star.
09:14All right.
09:14They have already investigated this.
09:17Remember the cyber ninjas?
09:19They found no evidence of fraud.
09:21They were testing ballots for traces of bamboo to prove the Chinese had meddled with the election, which is like
09:29looking for prints of wooden shoes to prove the Dutch have been sleeping with your wife.
09:33They found nothing.
09:35And of course, this is all to convince their people to support what Trump is calling the Save America Act.
09:40This is his attempt to fix the midterm election and save his own ass.
09:44I brought this up during the monologue the other night, and I guess this didn't sit too well with one
09:48of the Schmidtheads on Newsmax who would like to report me to the authorities.
09:52Next up, Jimmy Kimmel on the Save Act, aligning our country with every other first world secure election process and
10:00also something that about 80% of Americans actually want.
10:03And Kimmel's up there talking about it like that on a comedy show on a federally regulated network.
10:07Again, ABC is defiant.
10:11They are against what what the FCC is supposed to regulate.
10:14ABC breaks that law every single night.
10:17And it's about time that they learned a lesson for that.
10:19That is not a comedy show.
10:20That is propaganda.
10:21I think of it as a little of both, you know?
10:24Oh, they're such cattle tales, such little carrot.
10:28They're so worried about cancel culture until I come on.
10:31And then they're like, call the FCC.
10:32He's breaking the law.
10:34How does this not embarrass them?
10:36This channel he's on, Newsmax, I don't know if you see, they're literally on a payment plan right now.
10:41They owe $67 million for spreading Trump's election lies.
10:44They paid $20 million two months ago for their lies.
10:48They have to pay another $20 million in January of next year.
10:50But we're a propaganda.
10:52Newsmax is basically, Newsmax is to the Trump administration what the fearless flyer is to Trader Joe's, all right?
10:59Can you tell I've had enough of this?
11:01You know, between the war and the hypocrisy, the injustices, the lies and the drones, things are looking pretty bleak
11:09right now.
11:10And I feel like we need something positive.
11:12So I asked a friend, a friend who's probably the most enthusiastic, exuberant person I know, to give us something
11:19good, to give us a shot of sunshine.
11:21And, of course, he said yes.
11:22And I'm so happy he did.
11:24And so please welcome the most positive, most optimistic person I know.
11:28Here he is.
11:29Say hello to Upbeat Bobby, everybody.
11:34Hi, everybody.
11:36Hi, everyone.
11:38Hi.
11:39Hi, everyone.
11:45Hi.
11:47Thank you so much.
11:48I'm Upbeat Bobby.
11:51My friend Jimmy told me you might need a little pep talk.
11:53Is that true?
11:54Is that something?
11:56I said, is that true?
11:57Is that something?
11:59OK.
12:00Listen, I know that life can be a lot sometimes, but there are so many things to feel good about.
12:05I mean, every night, most of us, we go to sleep on a pillow and clean sheets.
12:09We can get kittens if we want, for free, and puppies, and baby popes.
12:15Have you seen the baby pope?
12:27First we had a baby Jesus, and now a baby pope.
12:31There's so much to be grateful for, like masturbating, and Chinese food, and the fact that Dolly Parton is alive,
12:38and Harvey Weinstein is in jail.
12:41Here in California, you can buy marijuana from a store.
12:45You can say, honey, I'm going out to a store to buy marijuana, and they won't even arrest you.
12:53You can buy birthday cake all year long.
12:56It doesn't even have to be your birthday.
12:57You can just go get one.
12:58They'll put your name on it, no questions asked.
13:01At Benihana, they'll flip a shrimp right into your mouth if you want it.
13:06Even the fact that we are here is a miracle.
13:09Your sperm beat millions and millions of other sperm to your mother's egg.
13:14You're a winner.
13:15You were born winners.
13:16We all were.
13:21So when you start to feel down, don't think about what's wrong.
13:25Think about what's right.
13:27Right, Guillermo?
13:28Right, Mr. Bobby.
13:31That's the spirit.
13:32Now, what I want you to do is get out there and turn those frowns upside down.
13:37I mean, taste the rainbow.
13:39Life is finger licking good.
13:41Eat fresh.
13:42Think outside the bun.
13:44Every kiss begins with K-I.
13:46Bobby, come with us.
13:47Come with us.
13:48Let's take a walk, Mr.
13:49Yeah, yeah.
13:49Where are we going?
13:50Just for a walk.
13:50It's going to be nice.
13:52It's a place nice, Bobby.
13:53Can we get Chinese food?
13:55Sure.
13:55Absolutely.
13:56Bye, everybody.
13:57Be positive.
13:59Be happy.
14:02Wow.
14:03Thanks.
14:03Thank you, Upbeat Bobby.
14:05We are all grateful for the good cheer.
14:07Thank you so much.
14:08Upbeat Bobby, everybody.
14:10We had a fun show for you tonight.
14:12Matthew Fox is here.
14:13And we'll be right back with the host of the Oscars, Conan O'Brien.
14:27Hi, there.
14:28Welcome back to the show tonight.
14:29He has a new series called The Madison.
14:32The artist formerly known as Dr. Jack Shepard from Lost, Matthew Fox is with us tonight.
14:38Tomorrow night.
14:39Oh, I have no record.
14:41Tomorrow night, Will Forte and Bunny XO will be here with music from the unlikely duo of Nora Jones and
14:46Joshua Homme.
14:47So please join us for that.
14:49Our first guest tonight is the tallest and pinkest man ever entrusted to host the Academy Awards.
14:54He returns to the Oscars live Sunday night, 7 Eastern, 4 Pacific, right here on ABC and on Hulu, too.
15:01Please welcome Conan O'Brien.
15:20What's that?
15:21Have a seat.
15:22How are you?
15:23I'm good.
15:24How are you?
15:24I'm good.
15:25I'm good.
15:25I'm not asking like a, how are you?
15:27How are you?
15:27I'm not asking like a, how are you?
15:28That's great.
15:32Okay, that's great.
15:33You sound like an angry jury.
15:35So just settle down.
15:36That's more alarming than fun, but I appreciate it.
15:39I should probably not point out, but this is my show and none of them chanted my name when I
15:44came out, when I walked out here.
15:46There's a lot of anger in that chant.
15:47You're already in the lead.
15:48I'm just telling you.
15:48Yeah, I owe them all money.
15:50You're hosting the Oscars in like three and a half days, I guess?
15:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:54Not even four days.
15:55You've been there and there are many challenges.
15:58Today was a very long day.
15:59Was it?
16:00And yes, today was a very long day of all media.
16:02You do a lot of press.
16:03Right.
16:04And you tell each city in America that you're my favorite city.
16:07Uh-huh.
16:09Oh, you did that thing?
16:10Yeah, and then the station in Bangor, Maine said that you just cheated on them with Cincinnati and it all
16:16gets very nasty.
16:17But I've been working on this for a while and I've been out workshopping jokes in different clubs.
16:23Yeah, I think it's interesting that you do that.
16:25I was always too paranoid to go and read the jokes to an audience in a club because I worried
16:30that somebody would give it to TMZ or something.
16:33But it seems like people, and I'm really heartened by this idea that the one thing that people will still
16:39protect is punchlines to jokes and the endings to movies and TV shows, right?
16:44Yeah, I also think if the jokes aren't great, they don't repeat them.
16:48You know?
16:50And that's my secret.
16:52How do you decide where you're going to go to test the jokes?
16:55You know, I have a terrific writer who worked with me for years and worked with me on the Oscars
17:01last year and this year and also works for you, Laurie Kilmartin.
17:04Yes, yes.
17:04And Laurie Kilmartin is great.
17:08And Laurie Kilmartin is like my coach and she's a terrific stand-up in addition to being an amazing writer.
17:14And she will say, all right, Conan, tonight you're going to, you know, the Chatterbox in Covina.
17:19And the next thing you know, I'm changing passports.
17:24I mean, I'm driving for a really long time, but I go to these places and I love it there.
17:29A lot of young comics.
17:31And they all hang out in an alley before the show.
17:33And there's just a great vibe.
17:36Yeah.
17:36It's really fun to get out there.
17:38And they're probably very excited that you're there, right?
17:41I mean, the audience...
17:42It's nice.
17:42Yes, they are.
17:43They get over the shock of seeing what I look like in person.
17:46And then once they recover from that, we have a really good time hanging out.
17:50And what's lovely is you go to these different places.
17:53I mean, I played places where you have to hold the joke because you can hear that bowling is going
17:57on.
17:58And behind a wall, like you go to these different joints.
18:01And I love showing up where no one expects me to be there.
18:05They don't particularly want me to be there.
18:07Uh-huh.
18:07And it's really fun just to pop up and do it.
18:10And have they liked the stuff?
18:11Has it been...
18:12They have.
18:13They also...
18:14There are times where there are certain areas we cannot crack.
18:17One of them is the movie Train Dreams.
18:20Yeah, right.
18:21Can't get a good joke for Train Dreams.
18:23Which maybe means there is no good joke for Train Dreams.
18:27And let me ask this audience.
18:28Who has seen Train Dreams?
18:30Go live.
18:31Okay.
18:31Let's do it again.
18:32That's eight people.
18:33No.
18:35One of the issues.
18:36And so I think my writers, they write a lot of jokes and I keep going out and trying them
18:41out.
18:41I think they've written 5,000 jokes on Train Dreams.
18:45Right.
18:45Not one of them is any good.
18:50And these are very good writers.
18:52So I blame Train Dreams.
18:54Yes, that's right.
18:55I think it's the fault of the movie.
18:55Because...
18:55It's a movie about a lumberjack.
18:58You know...
18:59It's a lot more serious than that.
19:00Like, if you have seen the movie, it's probably worse, right?
19:03It's very...
19:03It's a tough...
19:04I mean, first of all, it's a beautiful movie.
19:05I don't mean to align the movie.
19:07Yeah.
19:07It's a beautiful movie, but it's just no joke sticks to it.
19:10So I might move on.
19:11Skip Train Dreams.
19:12Skip Train Dreams.
19:14Who's gonna care?
19:15Will you sing this year?
19:17Will you sing or you're not singing?
19:17I can't reveal what I'll do.
19:19All right, all right.
19:19But they saw a huge ratings drop when I sang last year.
19:23I mean, just a hole that dropped off the earth.
19:26People threw away their flat screen televisions.
19:29But...
19:30Last year, did anything go wrong?
19:32Something that you expected to go one way, and it did not go that way?
19:36You know, no.
19:37And I don't know if...
19:38I mean, you might be the same way, but my philosophy is prepare, prepare, prepare,
19:43and then I kind of want something to go sideways.
19:47100%.
19:48Yeah.
19:49Because it's exhilarating.
19:52Yes.
19:52And people in the audience and at home see that something has gone wrong.
19:56Now there's good gone wrong, and then there's bad gone wrong.
20:00Right.
20:00I don't want bad gone wrong.
20:02Right.
20:03I want good gone wrong.
20:04And so you just have to see if that's going to happen or not.
20:07When that happens, I think it's one of the few times that the audience knows that what
20:10you're saying is truly spontaneous.
20:13In the moment.
20:13In the moment.
20:13Yeah.
20:14They know that this wasn't written.
20:15It wasn't scripted.
20:17That old woman just fell.
20:22And so I am spreading oil, olive oil, all over the floor.
20:27That's good.
20:27Here comes Dame Judi Dench, you know.
20:31I'll do what it takes to get a good show.
20:33Do you have jokes that you've decided you will not do that you could share with us?
20:40No.
20:40Okay.
20:43Because they're bad.
20:46The one I have is Train Dreams.
20:48It's a Train Dreams joke.
20:49Oh, do it.
20:49Please.
20:50Do you want it?
20:50Okay.
20:51This audience has.
20:52Yeah.
20:53Oh, you have it.
20:54No.
20:54Oh, great.
20:55Trust me.
20:57This is the best Train Dreams joke out of 5,000.
21:03Train Dreams was nominated for best picture.
21:06Finally, a movie that proves being a Pacific Northwest lumberjack in the early 1900s wasn't as fun as it sounds.
21:16No.
21:17No.
21:18No.
21:20No.
21:21No.
21:22No.
21:22Kitty applause doesn't work.
21:25You waited.
21:26You were sad as I was.
21:27That's why you're not going to see this joke.
21:29Yeah.
21:29All right.
21:30Train Dreams.
21:30This is for you tomorrow.
21:32I appreciate that.
21:33Actually, you can use that tomorrow.
21:34Hey, can I mention that I thought-
21:36Come out tomorrow night and taste that together and do it.
21:38I will do that joke tomorrow night.
21:39And it will kill.
21:40By the way, nobody will even realize we've done it here tonight.
21:43It will be completely news today.
21:45You, I think you did a great job in the movie you were in.
21:48If I had legs, I could kick you.
21:49Oh, thank you.
21:49I really was impressed by that.
21:52And I was hoping, and I feel like in a way you were slighted because your co-star, Rose Byrne,
22:00with whom you share a lot of scenes, is nominated for one of the big ones, best actress.
22:04Yes, she's up for best actress.
22:05And one could say that I elevated her performance.
22:10One could say it, but one wouldn't because you'd be insane.
22:15I disagree.
22:16I, I, I, no, I, I, it's interesting.
22:18People that have seen it are like, oh, I think, I thought Conan was going to do his Conan-y
22:22thing and I did not.
22:24No, you play a psychiatrist and it seems, yeah, kind of a dick also, right?
22:27That part was real.
22:31The, uh, the old inner dick out.
22:33That sounds bad.
22:33The guys they nominated in, the guys that were nominated, uh, instead of you, Benicio Del Toro.
22:41Ah.
22:42Jacob Elordi.
22:43Ah.
22:44Ugly.
22:45Ugly.
22:45An ugly, just an ugly man.
22:47Yeah.
22:47Delroy Lindo.
22:49I mean, whatever.
22:51Sean Penn.
22:52That guy can't act his way out of a bag.
22:55Stellan SkarsgĂĄrd.
22:56That's not even a name.
22:57You're.
22:58Someone opened a can of alphabet soup and threw it on the wall.
23:02You're better than all of these guys.
23:04I'm better than all of them combined.
23:06And yet, I was denied.
23:09Denied.
23:11That's the acting you want to see.
23:15But I heard you're in, uh, you're in Toy Story 5.
23:19I'm in Toy Story 5, yeah.
23:20That's pretty great.
23:21Yeah.
23:23Who do you play in Toy Story 5?
23:25What do I play?
23:26Yeah.
23:26Oh, what?
23:27You asked.
23:29So they come and they pitch me, Conan, we want you to be in Toy Story 5.
23:32We think it's just an amazing, uh, part of the franchise.
23:35It's an amazing script.
23:37And we've got, uh, all the people are coming back for it.
23:40You know, everyone's coming back.
23:42Tom's coming back.
23:43Tim's coming back.
23:43It's just amazing.
23:44And we have a role that we think is definitely you.
23:47And I said, well, this sounds great.
23:49Who is this sexy guy?
23:51And, um, they said, you're a toy, an electronic toy that teaches two-year-olds how to go potty.
24:01This is, this is an existing toy?
24:04Yeah.
24:04There are toys that help kids that are like, good for you.
24:07You know, you.
24:09Is that the voice you're going to use?
24:11Uh, you'll have to wait and see.
24:13Okay.
24:14All right.
24:14Well, good for you.
24:16But, um, anyway, that's my, that's what I am.
24:19And I was, I said, this is the universe, once again, telling me exactly who I am.
24:26Conan O'Brien is here.
24:28He's the host of the Oscars on Sunday.
24:36We are back with Conan O'Brien.
24:41Uh, you know, you hosted a late night show at one time.
24:44Yes, I did.
24:44For 28 years.
24:46Correct me if I have it wrong.
24:47Yes, that's right.
24:47Yeah, yeah.
24:47Do you like being a guest on a talk show?
24:49Uh, I, I really love being a guest.
24:54You do?
24:54I really love being a guest because when you're the host,
24:58you need to worry about how do I get this, you know, into the conversation.
25:02I got to get to this question.
25:04We're running, you know, tight on time.
25:06I got to get him out of this story.
25:08When you're the guest, you don't care.
25:12It's your problem.
25:13You know, I could start, I could tell a 45 minute story right now.
25:17Please go ahead.
25:18And, well, funny you mention it.
25:21We'll do a two parter about it tomorrow night.
25:23My grandfather.
25:23No.
25:24And then, um, it's, it's just kind of nice to go out and, and be on this side.
25:29It really is.
25:30It's a change of pace.
25:31And for me, it's fun to talk to you about the things that nobody thinks about.
25:35The weird little things.
25:36Like, how do you greet the person that comes out?
25:39If they're from Europe, you have to kiss them on each side of the face.
25:43If I never let a European on my show.
25:45Oh, really?
25:47That very reason.
25:48Wow.
25:49I didn't know that.
25:50And I made that very, it said there was a sign outside that said no Europeans.
25:55What about doing Letterman?
25:56Was that scary for you?
25:58Oh, yeah.
25:58Because for me, that was the scariest thing I ever did.
26:00Well, you know, our generation, that was our guy.
26:03And we were like, oh my God, it's Dave.
26:05And then he, I was going to be on his show.
26:08And this was early days of my late night show.
26:10This would be back in 1993.
26:12And my show was hanging on by a thread.
26:14People said, who is this guy?
26:17What kind of name is that?
26:18His hair looks stupid.
26:19It looks like a dessert.
26:22And people were really down on me.
26:23And I thought I'm going to go away.
26:25And then I got invited to go on Dave's show.
26:28And it was over at CBS.
26:30So I went over there.
26:31I was going to go over there.
26:32And this was a big chance for me to maybe save my show.
26:38And I remembered at the time that we were sitting around with the writers.
26:41And what I love to do is pitch an idea that is intentionally bad that I would never do.
26:45But it just makes the writers laugh.
26:47Right.
26:47So I said, what if I come out and you're Dave and I sit down next to him.
26:51And he says, well, you know, this young man took over our show.
26:54He's over there at NBC.
26:55And it's good to have you here.
26:56And now Conan, tell me what's going on over there.
26:58How's the show going?
26:59And I said, well, Dave, I just think that maybe.
27:07And freeze.
27:09For how long?
27:09Freeze and hold it.
27:11How long?
27:12Freeze and hold it for a really long time.
27:15Uh huh.
27:15And never break.
27:17So just like, yeah, Dave, I just think.
27:19And while I do that, he's waiting for a bit.
27:22And then the audience kind of is like, huh?
27:23And then there's everyone's weirded out.
27:25And then he starts talking to Paul.
27:27And then Paul's like, yeah, I don't know.
27:28And he's like, yeah, well, anyway, so Conan.
27:32And I hang on it.
27:34And so it was just making all of us laugh as one of those stupid.
27:37Right.
27:38Of course, I'll never do this.
27:39And my head writer at the time, brilliant genius Robert Smigel, said, you have to do
27:44it.
27:44You have to do it.
27:46Do it.
27:47But it'll blow people's minds.
27:49And overnight, people will say, this guy's a genius.
27:51And I said, I will be off the air immediately.
27:56I will never be invited back.
27:58I mean, literally hold it to the point where they carry me out of Dave's show.
28:05Well, now you're making it.
28:06And I hold it the whole time.
28:07Now you're selling it again.
28:08No.
28:08And like, literally hold it.
28:10And it's, you know, the New York Post.
28:11Conan has meltdown.
28:13I mean, everybody just, what the hell happened?
28:15And it's one of those things that, yeah, I get fired, but like 15 years later, comics,
28:21you know, seeing like, the time Conan did that, that was, man, he just, man, he showed
28:25the man.
28:27And meanwhile, you know, I'm in an alley somewhere with no pants on.
28:31And Dave hates you.
28:33Yeah.
28:33Just what you want.
28:34And Letterman hates me as being the guy that tanked his show that night.
28:38So, but that's the kind of thing where I had people around me, sensible people saying,
28:43you got to do it, man.
28:44You got to do it.
28:44I know, Robert.
28:45I don't think sensible is a word you used to describe.
28:47Robert, we love you, but you're insane.
28:48Yes.
28:48Yes, that's correct.
28:49Tried to kill my career.
28:51You're Irish, right?
28:52I'm afraid I am.
28:53Yes.
28:54You, I think I told you this off camera, but that doesn't count.
28:58You said a lot of things off camera.
28:59That's right.
29:00Yeah.
29:00We, my, I took my family to Ireland for my dad's 80th birthday.
29:04Uh-huh.
29:04We went and every place we went, we traveled all across the country.
29:08Every place I went, they're like, Conan was here.
29:11Yeah.
29:11You somehow hit like every, like what the Smurfs are to Belgium, Conan is to Ireland.
29:18Yeah.
29:18Yeah.
29:18He is everywhere you go.
29:20I am 100% Irish, meaning I took a genetic test and it said, you are 100.000 and the
29:30guy who
29:31took the test said, we don't see this very often.
29:34And he said, it's actually not good.
29:38It's inbreeding.
29:39You're inbred.
29:39Yeah.
29:40Thank you for saying what no one else could say.
29:43A lot of people living in a hut together.
29:45Uh, so, um, yeah, this is what happens.
29:49Uh, and so I, um, I, I went back and we had a lot of, we did a lot of
29:56fun, uh, jokey things.
29:59And then, uh, I was going to go and see a great genealogist said, I found where your great
30:07grandfather's home was that he lived in.
30:09The home is gone, but I found a little, little spot that he lived on.
30:13And, um, it's near the Galbally mountains.
30:15And he said, let's, I'll go there and show it to you.
30:17And I said, we'll do it on camera.
30:19And I was expecting, we had these jokes loaded up.
30:23We had props, funny things we were going to do.
30:26I was going to try out some train dreams material.
30:28And, um, I got a joke right here.
30:31See if I, yeah.
30:33See if I try it out on a cow.
30:35Uh, but I got there and I did not expect this because I'm not someone that wears my emotions
30:41on my sleeves, but I, I got emotional.
30:44It's very powerful.
30:45I felt the same way.
30:45When you're standing there, when you saw my great grandfather's place.
30:48Yes, I did.
30:49I said, well, this is a guy who is, first of all, more than 100% Irish.
30:53He was 140% Irish.
30:55And can I tell you something?
30:57We got shovels.
30:58And he's a terrific guy.
31:01I went to, I did the same thing I had.
31:03Yeah.
31:03But it was, there was some of the house still there.
31:05Yeah.
31:06So I think maybe, I don't know my.
31:08To me, it was just seeing, uh, that this was a very small plot of land.
31:13He was a tenant farmer.
31:14So it wasn't his.
31:16They didn't have money.
31:17And, uh, he needed to, uh, move on because it wasn't working and probably not enough
31:24to eat.
31:25Couldn't sustain.
31:26So he left and went to America.
31:29And, you know, there, here I am a couple of generations later.
31:33And what's amazing to me is you have that experience and you stand there.
31:38I have incredible empathy for people who have emigrated to another country.
31:44Yeah.
31:44Because it takes, it's incredible, it takes, it takes an entire lifetime to go to a country
31:54where, um, you know, often it's people who are coming to a country where they don't speak
31:58the language.
31:59Right.
31:59And they have to spend their entire lives just getting things started for the next generation.
32:05And it's a whole lifetime that you're, that you're feeding into this process.
32:10So I was just thinking about this guy who I'll never meet, uh, was, had to do that.
32:16And I think, I think I was overcome by that.
32:19I was overcome by the fact that there's a lot of sadness in that story.
32:23And in a lot of these stories, people leave, not because, Hey, I just want to go have fun
32:26in America, they leave because they have to.
32:29Yeah.
32:29So it was, it was really, it was amazing.
32:31Well, I mean, that's, that is a beautiful story.
32:32I hope you don't tell at the Oscars.
32:34It's depressing and nobody's going to like it.
32:36What I'm going to do is open with that.
32:38Uh-huh.
32:38Yeah, yeah.
32:39And then?
32:40Talk about the struggle of immigrants.
32:41Then train dreams, bang, train dreams, bang, five in a row, each one worse than the
32:48other one.
32:50And then I'm going to show train dreams in its entirety.
32:54Smigel thinks it's a good idea.
32:55Smigel says.
32:56And then I'm going to go like this.
32:57I hope you had a good time.
33:00Gordon O'Brien, everybody.
33:02You can't move.
33:03Watch it out.
33:04It's live, Sunday night, 74th, 4th Pacific, here at ABC.
33:08And we'll be back with Matthew Bob.
33:20Tomorrow on Jimmy Kimmel Live.
33:23Whew.
33:23Fortin, Bunny XO, plus music from Norah Jones and Joshua Homme. Join us next week with guests
33:30Robert Pattinson, Chelsea Handler, Lisa Kudrow, and Zendaya, plus music from Chris Robinson
33:38and Tedeschi Trucks Band.
33:45Hi there, welcome back. Our next guest was the doctor on board for maybe the most famous
33:50plane crash in television history. You know him from Lost, from Party of Five, and now
33:55the latest from Taylor Sheridan, The Madison.
33:58I do this for a living, big brother. Well, sort of.
34:01You should do it for a living.
34:03Never make work of your passions.
34:05Well, counterpoint to that is love what you do, you never work a day in your life.
34:08You love what you do?
34:09I don't even like what I do.
34:11You should analyze that.
34:12Exactly what I'm doing.
34:14I'm glad you're doing something, because your damn sure ain't catching any trout.
34:21You better not be doing what I think you're doing.
34:25Tying on a nymph.
34:26Don't you dare.
34:27This is my last day, Paul. I'm tying on a nymph.
34:31The Madison premiere Saturday on Paramount+.
34:33Please welcome Matthew Fox.
34:51I have to tell you something, Matthew.
34:53It's as if you made this show specifically for me.
34:57Yeah.
34:58I mean, because that nymph joke, no one's going to get that, except for guys who fly fish.
35:03That's true. That's true.
35:04And also, I will say that you are a much better fly caster than Kurt Russell.
35:10Yeah, I'm glad that you're saying that.
35:12I am saying that, because it's true.
35:13It is very true.
35:15I mean, Kurt's good.
35:17He does a good job.
35:17But the relationship of these brothers, Paul is way better than him and coaches him at times.
35:24Yeah, yeah.
35:25And the nymph thing, if you fly fish, you'll get it.
35:27And by the way, if I was, and I wonder how you felt about this, if you had been playing
35:32the brother who's not as good at fly casting, would you have been super bummed if you had to?
35:37I wouldn't have been able to do it.
35:38Yeah, right, right?
35:40I take a lot of pride in that.
35:42I think that would be a deal breaker for me, too.
35:45I mean, I've been doing it since I was really young, so I love it, and I do take a
35:49lot of pride.
35:50When you fish like that, you like to be by yourself, or you like to be with other people?
35:55Yeah, I mean, I enjoy fishing with people, but, you know, a lot of times, I mean, things have happened
35:59to me in the river where I've been very happy that I wasn't fishing with people because...
36:04Like what?
36:05Well, I mean, I've hooked into some very, very big brown trout, and sometimes you're in a lot of water.
36:11It's moving very, very intensely, very strongly.
36:14Sometimes it's a very rocky bottom, and when you hook into a fish like that, you're trying to chase the
36:19fish.
36:19You don't want it to break off, and I've just fallen in.
36:24A lot of times, you're wearing waders, and...
36:26Yeah, right, they fill up.
36:27And, you know, inevitably, about 10 minutes after I've lost the fish and I've, you know, thrown a temper tantrum
36:34in the middle of the river,
36:35I then giggle at what that must have looked like the entire... the entire scene.
36:41Did Taylor Sheridan write this part specifically for you?
36:44Because it is so much like you.
36:47Uh, I don't know.
36:48Oh.
36:48I really don't know.
36:49Did he know you?
36:50I mean...
36:50I think... I mean, he did.
36:52He knew I was from northwestern Wyoming, that I'm a pilot, and that I'm really passionate about fly fishing.
36:59So these are two things that Paul, the character, is, you know, he spends his life doing these things.
37:05Yeah, I mean, I would imagine when you read this, you were like, what the hell?
37:08This is like me.
37:09This is really weird.
37:10I did.
37:11I did.
37:11But I was, I mean, you know, it was an opportunity to do things that just feel very familiar to
37:17me.
37:17And even the country of southwestern Montana, where the Madison runs, it looks a lot like the place that I
37:25grew up in Wyoming.
37:26So it just felt...
37:27It's so beautiful.
37:28It's really beautiful.
37:28And it's shot beautifully in the show.
37:31We went on a camping trip many years ago.
37:33You took me and some of my friends...
37:35Yeah.
37:36...on a camping trip, and my brother, too, that was...
37:40First of all, your friends are crazy.
37:42Like, crazy people.
37:44We were terrified the whole first night.
37:46We huddled.
37:47There were four of us in a little, like, tent.
37:49We huddled together for safety the first night.
37:52And I'm not kidding at all.
37:53I know.
37:54It really did feel like you were like the city camp.
37:56Yeah.
37:57And we were the urban guy.
37:59I mean, the rural guys.
38:00I mean...
38:01Beyond urban.
38:01Yeah.
38:01It was like camping with wolves or something like that.
38:04People were fighting each other for sport.
38:07Not even for anger.
38:08It was like an Abraham Lincoln-style fight going on, I think, at all times during this trip.
38:13That was a great trip.
38:14But then we had this weird thing where we bonded.
38:16I think it was when we started cooking where all of a sudden everybody accepted us, right?
38:20Oh, yeah.
38:20There was a thing where if your hat, if you ever removed your cowboy hat, which I felt so dumb
38:24wearing in the first place,
38:26if your cowboy hat ever came off, you remember this?
38:29Yeah, I do.
38:30You have to shotgun a beer, right, right away?
38:31Yeah, yeah.
38:32You have to pound the beer.
38:32And we did a lot of that.
38:33You guys brought no water on the trip, which I thought was interesting.
38:37Yeah.
38:38We had water purifiers, though.
38:40Yeah.
38:40That never came out, though.
38:42It was...
38:42On this trip, the beer was the water, and then the, like, whiskey was the beer.
38:48Right.
38:48Right?
38:49Yeah, pretty much.
38:50And people got naked to go in the water.
38:52Yeah, I mean...
38:53Including you.
38:54Well, yeah.
38:55I mean, if I'm going to go in the river, I would prefer to go naked.
38:58You like to be naked in the river, yeah.
39:00I do, absolutely.
39:00I mean, especially on a camping trip like that, when you really didn't think you're going
39:05to be going in...
39:06You're not going to be going swimming.
39:08You didn't bring a suit.
39:09You're just going to take your clothes off and go in.
39:11So you thought I looked weird in the wetsuit through that whole thing?
39:16I did.
39:17He's like, oh, this is City Boys in his wetsuit.
39:20I did.
39:20Is that something like skinny dipping with the gang?
39:24Is that a regular thing that you do?
39:27I mean, you know, when I got to Hawaii, it became kind of a thing.
39:32The first year of Lost, we would get together, and inevitably, it would get, you know, nighttime,
39:40and we'd go skinny dipping.
39:41The whole cast, you mean?
39:42Well, I mean, you know, certain members of the cast.
39:44Right, right.
39:44I was usually leading the charge.
39:47You were?
39:48Wow.
39:49That's...
39:49Oh, God.
39:50You guys had a lot of fun over there.
39:51We did.
39:52Yeah.
39:52Are you still flying?
39:53Are you flying?
39:54I know you live in Italy mostly now, right?
39:56I do.
39:56Which is great.
39:57And you speak Italian fluently?
39:59I'm getting there.
40:00It's not an easy language to learn, but I'm learning it.
40:04You're flying planes in Italy?
40:05Absolutely.
40:06And you don't know how to speak the language fully when you're talking...
40:09Well, no.
40:09I mean, the language of aviation is English, even in Europe.
40:12Really?
40:12Oh, yeah.
40:13Wow.
40:13Yeah, yeah.
40:14Is that everywhere in Asian countries, et cetera?
40:16Yes, pretty much.
40:18Oh, wow.
40:18Lucky for us.
40:19Yeah.
40:20No wonder everyone hates us.
40:22Exactly.
40:24Do you think that's why?
40:25Maybe.
40:26Yeah.
40:27We can't really talk about what happens on the things that happen on the show, though,
40:30right?
40:30No.
40:31No, we can't.
40:32There's too many spoilers, but it's a great series.
40:36The scripts were fantastic.
40:38Kurt Russell's the best, right?
40:39Yeah.
40:40Yeah.
40:40He's a really good guy.
40:41I worked with him over a decade ago on a little film, and we really hit it off.
40:47Yeah.
40:47You guys are both pilots.
40:49Yeah.
40:49And one of you knows how to fly fish.
40:51Yeah.
40:52Exactly.
40:55Hopefully he won't see this.
40:57He will.
40:57But, yeah, very exciting.
40:59Another big show from Taylor Sheridan.
41:01It's called The Madison.
41:02The first three episodes premiere on Saturday on Paramount+.
41:06Mr. Matthew Fox, everybody.
41:08Thanks for being here.
41:17All thanks to Conan O'Brien and Matthew Fox.
41:20Apologies to Matt Damon.
41:21We ran out of time for him.
41:22Nightlight is next.
41:23You join us tomorrow.
41:24Will Forte will be here.
41:25Bunny XL will be here.
41:26And we'll have music from Nora Jones and Joshua Homme.
41:29Thanks for watching.
41:30Good night.
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