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Jimmy Kimmel Live - Season 24 - Episode 04: Denis Leary, Rachel Maddow, EJAE, Audrey Nuna, Rei Ami
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00:00From Hollywood, it's Jimmy Kimmel Live!
00:04Tonight, Dennis Leary, Rachel Maddow,
00:07and from K-pop Demon Hunter,
00:09music from EJ, Audrey Nunez, and Ray Alvarez
00:12with the Klee Tones!
00:15And now, Jimmy Kimmel!
00:32Thank you, thank you, thank you, well, it's very nice.
00:34I appreciate being on Jimmy, I'm the host of the show.
00:38Thank you for watching, thanks for joining us here.
00:43You know, this is one of those nights where it's hard to do a show like this.
00:46It's hard to find things to laugh at, and this is one of those nights,
00:50you know, terrible things happen every day.
00:52Sad things happen, tragedies, cruelty, injustice, etc.
00:56In most situations, it's just a bad part of life.
00:58But what do you do when something terrible happens,
01:02and a big group of people, including those who are running our country,
01:06tells you it didn't?
01:08They tell you you're not seeing what you clearly see.
01:11Are you supposed to just accept it, move on, go about your day?
01:15What do we do?
01:16I mean, you all know what happened in Minneapolis yesterday,
01:19and if you haven't seen the video of what happened,
01:21you should watch the video, because as horrible as it is
01:24to see a woman shot by a person who's sworn to protect us,
01:29it's important for us to know what happened and what is happening,
01:33because if we don't, it's definitely going to happen again.
01:36And, you know, there used to be a baseline of truth
01:39that doesn't seem to exist anymore.
01:42And there used to be a baseline of decency,
01:44like when, let's say, a beloved director and his wife were murdered,
01:48allegedly by their own son,
01:50a leader would either say something nice or say nothing at all.
01:54And those days are gone.
01:56Maybe not forever, hopefully not forever,
01:58but for now they're gone.
01:59We now have the full force of the White House
02:02and the commentators who have decided that their job
02:05is to support anything and everything their leader says and does,
02:09trying to convince us that a mom who just dropped her six-year-old off at school
02:13was part of a left-wing terror effort.
02:16The deadly incident that took place in Minnesota yesterday
02:19occurred as a result of a larger, sinister, left-wing movement.
02:23These vehicle ramings are domestic acts of terrorism.
02:27This was an act of domestic terrorism.
02:29These were, it appears to be, paid agitators.
02:32This is a woman who was in severe crisis.
02:36She lived a very sad and very chaotic life.
02:40It is clear that she tried to use her vehicle as a weapon,
02:43mow over an ICE agent.
02:45A huge SUV with a lunatic woman who guns the gas pedal.
02:51When you point a car at somebody,
02:53it's no different than pointing a gun.
02:54And when you step on the gas, it's the same as pulling the trigger.
02:57The officer, I think justifiably, shooting her in the face.
03:01It's time for Americans to say enough.
03:04And if you get in the way of the government repelling a foreign invasion,
03:08you're going to end up just like that lady did yesterday.
03:11A foreign invasion.
03:13These foreigners who invade our country, they barge into our homes.
03:17They start feeding our children, mowing our lawns.
03:20And every time we pay them, they come back and they do it again.
03:23And, of course, everyone you saw took their cues from the president
03:27who falsely posted on social media that Renee Goode,
03:30the woman who was killed, said she ran over the ICE officer,
03:34which is clearly not true.
03:36I mean, look at the...
03:37I don't think anyone with eyes other than him would make that claim.
03:41Our secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noem,
03:44said it was an act of domestic terrorism,
03:46which is just flat out...
03:48This woman, this unarmed mama, devout Christian, by the way,
03:51who had no criminal record, driving a Honda Pilot,
03:54trying to get away from armed men in masks in the snow.
03:57Masked men are screaming at her.
03:59We're to believe this woman was a terrorist,
04:02committing a terrorist act?
04:04And the fact that ICE shot through her windshield three times,
04:08that was her fault?
04:09The ICE officer was, as Christy Noem put it,
04:12following his training.
04:14Which, how stupid do you think we are?
04:16That is not just an insult to Renee Goode,
04:18that's an insult to every law enforcement officer everywhere.
04:21They're not trained to do that.
04:23Again, I encourage you to watch the video for yourself.
04:26And by the way, I know it isn't easy to work in law enforcement.
04:28I get that people make mistakes in the heat of a situation,
04:31but don't try to tell me that went by the book.
04:35Apologize, investigate, let justice be served.
04:37I find it hard to believe that even people who love Donald Trump
04:41would go along with this, but I guess they do.
04:44So, anyway, after the terrible mess they made,
04:47somebody had to go out to try to justify this,
04:49and Trump wasn't going to do it,
04:51so he tapped that old sofa pumper J.D. Vance
04:54to go out there and do his best to defend the indefensible.
04:58And I say attack very, very intentionally,
05:01because this was an attack on federal law enforcement,
05:04this was an attack on law and order,
05:06this was an attack on the American people.
05:08Oh, come on.
05:09This was not an attack on the American people.
05:11This was an attack on one American person.
05:14You just suggested that this woman who was killed, Renee Goode,
05:18is part of a broader left-wing network.
05:21Who do you think is behind this broader left-wing network?
05:25Well, it's one of the things we're going to have to figure out,
05:26but here's the way that I put it.
05:28When somebody throws a brick at an ICE agent,
05:30or somebody tries to run over an ICE agent,
05:33who paid for the brick?
05:34Great analogy.
05:35That guy is one spoiled Wendy's Baconator
05:39away from being the president of the United States.
05:41I never thought I'd say this, but I miss Mike Pence.
05:45There's a part of me that feels very, very sad for this woman,
05:49not just because she lost her life,
05:50but because I think she is a victim of left-wing ideology.
05:54Well, we think she got shot by an ICE agent
05:57that you and your boss sent into Minneapolis.
05:59I think maybe all that Maybelline is poisoning his brain or something.
06:03And then we have the engineer who's been driving this crazy train
06:06when it comes to immigration,
06:08Trump's deputy chief of staff, Stephen Miller,
06:10Trump's other little penis.
06:12Stephen Miller, he is said to be the architect
06:15responsible for many of Trump's subhuman immigration policies.
06:19He also called the incident domestic terrorism.
06:23Now, the writer Michael Wolff, who has multiple books about Trump,
06:26had an interesting story on his substack today.
06:28He said back in 2017, Steve Bannon introduced him to Stephen Miller,
06:32who was a young guy working for Steve Bannon,
06:34by saying, now this is a real fascist.
06:37Steve Bannon called him Gerbils.
06:39He was the, like, weirdo at the office.
06:42Miller, by the way, grew up here.
06:44He went to Santa Monica.
06:45He actually got a copy of the high school yearbook,
06:48the year Stephen Miller went.
06:50It's very interesting.
06:51We have some photos.
06:52He was voted most outspoken,
06:54which is, I think, a nice way of saying most punchable.
06:56That's him in the jacket.
06:58Here he is posing.
06:59That's a high school student, by the way.
07:01That's, uh...
07:02Look at that hair.
07:02I...
07:02You know what?
07:03This might be a Lex Luthor-type situation.
07:05Like, he went into a Taco Bell.
07:08He got splashed by a scalding hot gordita supreme
07:11and burned off his hair,
07:12and he declared war on Latinos for the rest of his life.
07:16Here is a weird Stephen traveling alone to the prom.
07:19Here he is boldly going where no virgin has gone before.
07:24You'd think a guy who dressed up in a Star Trek costume
07:28would have more tolerance for aliens,
07:30but I guess not.
07:31We even found some video from his high school days.
07:34Uh, Stephen Miller ran for a class president
07:36in his high school,
07:37and this is a speech, uh,
07:39a child from a wealthy family
07:41actually gave his fellow students.
07:44Every candidate that's ever been elected...
07:45Uh-huh.
07:46Not my students.
07:47Uh-huh.
07:47...has failed to do one important thing.
07:50Actually, to make the year better.
07:52But I will.
07:53Okay.
07:53Here's how.
07:55I will say and I will do things
07:58that no one else in their right mind would say or do.
08:02Let me give you an example.
08:05Am I the only one who is sick and tired
08:09of being told to pick up my trash?
08:19What a lovely young man, huh?
08:24Even for 2002,
08:25that was apparently too much,
08:27and so then when they tried to bring up
08:28the next speaker,
08:30all of a sudden,
08:30it was okay to resist the authorities.
08:33Next up.
08:34Thank you, Stephen.
08:38Next up.
08:39You've seen him on something.
08:44This is crazy.
08:51He's making like...
08:57And they marched him straight to the White House,
08:59where he is now.
09:01See, he's always been like this,
09:03and you can read all about it
09:04in his new memoir,
09:06Born a Douche.
09:09I'll get you a copy for your birthday, Guillermo.
09:12Oh, thank you.
09:14Meanwhile, you remember that newspaper,
09:16the New York Times,
09:16the one Trump says is fake and failing and biased,
09:19and he's suing for $15 billion?
09:20Well, yesterday,
09:21he sat down for a two-hour interview with them,
09:24which is a lie.
09:25You know, you spend two hours in the Oval Office,
09:27there's a good chance someone's going to come in
09:28and spray paint you gold.
09:30But in October,
09:32Trump sued the Times for defamation.
09:34He was able to somehow put that aside
09:36for his two favorite activities,
09:38sitting and talking about himself.
09:40This is a photo from the interview,
09:41shot from...
09:42I believe that shot from the hidden camera
09:44Putin had installed.
09:46They haven't released the whole interview yet,
09:48but I'm hoping they asked if he made
09:50a New Year's resolution,
09:52because...
09:52Well, this is interesting.
09:53According to a study of 182 cities,
09:56residents of Seattle,
09:58Seattleites,
09:59are the most likely
10:00to keep their New Year's resolution.
10:02Seattle is the healthiest city,
10:04and people tend to go along
10:05with what they decided to do.
10:07L.A. clocked in at 43rd place,
10:09and in last place,
10:11Butterfried Twinkies, Arkansas.
10:14In second place was Scottsdale, Arizona.
10:17If you live in Scottsdale,
10:18you are very likely to keep your resolution,
10:21especially if your resolution
10:23is to wear more turquoise.
10:25I didn't make a resolution this year.
10:27I'm so perfect,
10:28I couldn't even think of anything,
10:29but it's the same with a lot of us
10:31here at the show.
10:32So to come up with ideas,
10:34we tried something fun,
10:35an experiment.
10:36We asked everybody on staff
10:37to text their parents the same thing,
10:39to ask for suggestions
10:41on what they could work on this year.
10:43And this one's from my assistant, Max.
10:45He wrote to his mother,
10:46what should my New Year's resolution be?
10:49Anything you think I should work on?
10:50His mother wrote,
10:51pay your own cell phone bill.
10:54That text cost Max $1,100.
10:57One of our segment producers,
10:59Harry, asked her mom the same question.
11:00She said,
11:01what should my New Year's resolution be?
11:02What can I work on?
11:03Her mother said,
11:04you should definitely work on
11:05trying to answer my texts
11:06the same month I send them.
11:09Okay, I'll try.
11:10This is from Gabby to her mom,
11:12thinking of doing a New Year's resolution.
11:13Any thoughts?
11:14What can I work on?
11:15Her mother responded,
11:16can you talk?
11:19LOL, never mind.
11:20Here's an exchange between
11:22producer Flory and her dad.
11:24She wrote,
11:25do you have any New Year's resolutions for me?
11:27He said,
11:28take a cooking class
11:29as you seem to enjoy cooking and baking.
11:31Maybe a wine course after that.
11:33Keep enjoying dining,
11:34but reduce the portions a little.
11:36Keep in contact
11:37with all the friends you've made.
11:40Thank you, Dad,
11:41for the eating disorder.
11:43And finally,
11:45Jamie is one of our writers.
11:46Jamie's mother
11:47always has something good to say.
11:48Thinking I'll do
11:49a New Year's resolution this year,
11:50what do you think I should do?
11:51Mom says,
11:52I'm glad you asked
11:53because I was just talking
11:54to Betty about this.
11:56You should stop
11:58sticking out your tongue
11:59during pictures.
12:01Just a nice, normal picture.
12:03No head tilt,
12:03no tongue out.
12:04Be regular with your face.
12:07Here are a few examples
12:09I showed Betty.
12:11Jamie goes,
12:12did Betty agree?
12:14She says,
12:14yes,
12:15everyone at Mahjong agreed.
12:18You showed everyone
12:19at Mahjong?
12:20Sure,
12:21I didn't want to be rude.
12:22Well,
12:23thank you, parents.
12:24We're all glad we moved.
12:27And one more thing.
12:29It is Thursday night,
12:30and that means
12:30it's time to bleep and blur
12:31the big moments
12:32of the week on TV,
12:33whether they need it or not.
12:35It is this week
12:36in Unnecessary Censorship.
12:41There was a time
12:42when conch was
12:44for God,
12:45for King,
12:46for glory,
12:46for Americans.
12:48We expect this
12:49in Venezuela.
12:51Of all kinds,
12:52long, short,
12:52we'd love to see
12:53all kinds.
12:54I hope everyone's
12:55inspired to go eat
12:56for lunch after this briefing.
12:57So when he first
12:59got elected
12:59in January,
13:01we f***ed,
13:02you know,
13:03biggest f*** ever.
13:05We talked about like...
13:05The lights are really?
13:07I think Matty G
13:08has an idea.
13:09Oh, yeah?
13:10You have an idea?
13:11Did you take a hot,
13:11steaming s***?
13:14Well,
13:15no.
13:15I had a couple say,
13:16look,
13:16I could have Trump
13:17call me all the time.
13:18I just have to f*** his ass
13:19a little bit.
13:20It's just like,
13:21I believe that
13:22when people come in my a**,
13:23I really care about
13:24them feeling
13:25super cozy,
13:26super comfy,
13:27especially with how
13:28it's been said
13:28everything is nowadays.
13:30Absolutely.
13:30Okay, great.
13:31We've got more.
13:33We're going to take
13:33a quick break.
13:34We have UFC flyweight champion
13:36Valentina Shevchenko.
13:37She's going to...
13:43She's going to fist f***ing mark.
13:45It's going to be amazing.
13:50All right,
13:50we're going to switch over
13:51tonight.
13:52Rachel Maddow is here.
13:53We have music from
13:54Huntrickson.
13:55We'll be right back
13:55with Dennis Leary.
13:57That's the girl.
14:10And now there,
14:11welcome back.
14:12Tonight,
14:12making her first appearance
14:13on our show,
14:14one of the president's
14:15very favorite broadcasters
14:16from the Rachel Maddow show.
14:18Rachel Maddow is with us
14:19tonight.
14:20And then later,
14:22the multimedia phenom.
14:23They are the singing voices
14:24from K-pop demon hunters.
14:26Huntrix is here tonight.
14:30We've got new shows next week
14:32with a monster lineup of guests,
14:34including Michael B. Jordan,
14:35Noah Wiley,
14:36Johnny Knoxville,
14:37Joel McHale,
14:38Tig Notaro,
14:39Jesse Buckley,
14:40Chase Infinity,
14:41and Chris Pratt
14:42with music from
14:42Raphael Sadiq,
14:43Miles Caton,
14:44Ludwig Goranson,
14:45and Ed Sheeran
14:46and Ed Sheeran
14:46will be here
14:47with an all-star,
14:48all-superstar band,
14:50maybe the all-superstar-iest band
14:52we have ever had
14:53on the show.
14:54So please join us
14:55for that.
14:55Our first guest tonight
14:57has Boston
14:59coursing through
14:59his Red Sox-colored veins.
15:01You can see
15:02the season two premiere
15:03of his show,
15:03Going Dutch,
15:04one week from tonight
15:05on Fox
15:05and the day after that
15:06on Hulu.
15:07Please welcome
15:08Dennis Leary.
15:37How are you, Dennis?
15:38Look at you.
15:39You're very youthful,
15:40I have to say.
15:41You seem to be getting younger.
15:42What's going on with you?
15:43Yeah.
15:44Yeah.
15:44I don't think so.
15:45You're dressing younger.
15:46Your hair looks younger.
15:48Everything seems younger.
15:49It's all fake, Jimmy.
15:50Is it really?
15:51This is not the real me.
15:53Whatever it is.
15:53I'd be in a ruined sweatshirt
15:55and sweatpants,
15:56no shoes.
15:56No shoes?
15:57No shoes.
15:58Just hanging out.
15:59You're a no-shoes guy?
16:00I'm a no-shoes guy.
16:01Not really.
16:03Honestly, it's sneakers.
16:05Sneakers.
16:06Untied.
16:07And how's the family doing?
16:08Everybody all right?
16:09The Learys are good?
16:10Yeah, we had a great Christmas.
16:11We were fantastic.
16:12The big event in our family
16:14is my oldest,
16:15my son Jack,
16:17is getting married.
16:18Oh, nice.
16:19Yeah, yeah.
16:19Very good.
16:20In August, yeah.
16:21Yeah.
16:21You happy about it, I guess?
16:23Yeah, we love his girlfriend,
16:25his fiancee.
16:25We love her.
16:26We just,
16:27you know,
16:27it's like when I met my wife
16:29and I first brought my wife home,
16:31my mother,
16:32my Irish mother,
16:33she pulled me aside and said,
16:34listen,
16:35if you screw this one up,
16:36don't come back here anymore.
16:38That's how many bad girlfriends
16:40I'd have had before her.
16:41So we love,
16:42we love his fiancee.
16:43So we're very happy.
16:44And the great news is
16:45they,
16:46they got engaged
16:47in the beginning of the summer
16:49and they were talking vaguely
16:51about having a destination wedding.
16:52Oh, you're against that?
16:53Okay, no.
16:54And then their friends,
16:56they had to go to six destination weddings
16:58or something like that this year.
16:59Oh, really?
17:00And it turned,
17:01by the seventh one,
17:02the fifth one,
17:02they were like,
17:03we're not doing this, okay?
17:04Oh, good.
17:04They live in Brooklyn.
17:05By the way,
17:06I just want to mention,
17:07okay?
17:08They live in Brooklyn,
17:09we live in Manhattan,
17:10we're going to drive an hour
17:11to Brooklyn without traffic,
17:13maybe half an hour.
17:13That's a destination wedding for me,
17:15okay?
17:17As far as I'm concerned,
17:18if you live 10 minutes away
17:19from my house,
17:20that's a destination wedding.
17:22Anything over 10,
17:23destination wedding.
17:24It's completely out of control.
17:25What is the farthest
17:27you've ever traveled
17:28for a destination wedding?
17:29So here's the thing,
17:30this makes me so angry.
17:33Like,
17:34we all have this
17:35in our families,
17:35right,
17:36in France,
17:36where it's a destination,
17:37like in Hawaii.
17:38I know a person
17:39that got married in Hawaii,
17:41right?
17:41But it could be anywhere
17:42around the world
17:43where they make us go
17:44with these stupid
17:44destination weddings.
17:45That's 12 hours
17:46of flying for you.
17:46Yeah, okay,
17:46that's 12 hours
17:47from New York,
17:48right?
17:48But you've got to
17:49pay for that yourself,
17:49then pay for your own
17:51expensive hotel room,
17:52right?
17:52Because they're not
17:53covering anything.
17:54Then you've got to
17:54bring a gift
17:55on top of that.
17:56Hey,
17:56I'm the gift,
17:57okay?
17:58Number one.
17:59Number two,
17:59and then,
18:00so we knew these people
18:01that flew in,
18:02and it was four days!
18:03Four days!
18:04Really?
18:04That's what these
18:05weddings are like,
18:05the destination.
18:06It's four days
18:07at the thing,
18:07and you can't
18:08have free time there.
18:09There's a lunch
18:11and a rehearsal
18:11and a family thing,
18:12so it's four days
18:13of activities,
18:14right?
18:15It's like going to camp,
18:16yeah.
18:16It's like going to camp,
18:17their family camp,
18:18you know?
18:19Uh-huh.
18:19Four days,
18:20okay?
18:21Jesus died,
18:22okay?
18:23Uh-huh.
18:23Got buried,
18:24came back from the dead,
18:25took three days.
18:28Three days!
18:29And it was a local thing.
18:31No travel days either.
18:33Three days for Jesus,
18:34but four for you,
18:36because you're so special.
18:38Oh,
18:38they're all so special.
18:39The people that got married
18:40in Hawaii,
18:41nine months later,
18:42they got divorced.
18:43No.
18:44My wife and I are like,
18:45you know what you need now?
18:46A destination divorce,
18:47where you,
18:48your credit card pays for us
18:49to fly back to Hawaii
18:51and spend four days
18:52at the beach drinking,
18:53okay?
18:53How about that?
18:54A destination divorce.
18:56Wow.
18:56Did you get,
18:57did you take back the gift,
18:58or,
18:59I mean,
18:59the gift is still late?
19:00No,
19:00they always keep the gift.
19:01Here's the thing,
19:01right?
19:02Yeah.
19:02So,
19:03like,
19:03when I was coming up,
19:04my kids said this to me
19:05about me and my wife,
19:06where'd you guys get married?
19:07We got married,
19:08it was a destination wedding.
19:09We lived in the city,
19:10and we went 20 minutes
19:11to our mother's house
19:12to get married
19:13in her mother's tiny backyard.
19:15Oh,
19:15and they're like,
19:15who was your caterer?
19:16Your grandmother
19:17was the caterer.
19:19Who did your flowers?
19:21It was outside!
19:23Mother Nature did the flowers.
19:24What are you talking about?
19:26It's sounding to me
19:27like maybe you're being,
19:28you're expected to pay
19:29for this wedding.
19:30Is that true?
19:31Yeah,
19:31now it's like,
19:32it's one of these things now,
19:34sometimes people get married,
19:35and both,
19:36it used to be that
19:37the bride's parents
19:38paid for the wedding.
19:38Yes.
19:39Now,
19:39everybody wants to share
19:41in everything,
19:42right?
19:42Well,
19:43yeah,
19:43okay.
19:44Yeah,
19:44so I gotta,
19:45maybe for your family.
19:45Yeah,
19:46so that's,
19:46I gotta pay for part
19:47of the wedding.
19:48Dan,
19:48I have to do a speech.
19:49He just,
19:50he told me this
19:51on Christmas Eve.
19:51that you're gonna be good at,
19:52right?
19:53I mean,
19:53oh,
19:53you didn't know you had to?
19:54I'm like you,
19:54see,
19:55I'm very,
19:55I have to be careful
19:56because when I,
19:57I can cry very easily.
19:58right,
19:58very sentimental
19:59about my family.
20:00I cried through both
20:01of my children's weddings.
20:02You cry at the drop of a hat.
20:05I've been crying since I came out
20:07of the war.
20:07yeah,
20:07yeah.
20:08So,
20:09and when you cry,
20:10when I see you on TV crying,
20:11it makes me want to cry
20:12because I,
20:12I'm so,
20:13I feel so bad
20:14for what you're talking about.
20:15It's like yawning.
20:16Yeah,
20:17yeah,
20:17right.
20:17It really is.
20:18It's contagious.
20:18So I said to my son,
20:20like,
20:20you want me,
20:21doesn't just the father of the bride,
20:23that's what it was in my family
20:24and my sisters got married,
20:25it was always the father,
20:26and he was like,
20:26no,
20:27now we want the father of the bride
20:28and the father.
20:29So I'm like,
20:30okay,
20:30what am I doing?
20:31Am I funny?
20:31And he's like,
20:32we want you to be funny
20:33and touching.
20:33And I'm like,
20:34if I'm touching,
20:35I'm gonna cry.
20:36He goes,
20:36oh,
20:36that would be great.
20:37Oh,
20:38he wants that.
20:39He wants me to cry.
20:40Sounds like you can't lose then.
20:41And then he says to me
20:42and my wife,
20:43he goes,
20:44and there's gonna be
20:44all these different dance numbers,
20:46right?
20:46But we're not doing traditional,
20:47so everybody,
20:48we're gonna have friends,
20:49like,
20:49do like a flash mob dance thing,
20:50and then we want you and mom
20:52to do like a special dance.
20:53And I'm like,
20:53a special dance?
20:55We're not doing a special dance.
20:57I'm paying for half of this thing.
20:59I'm not doing the dance thing.
21:00You're not performing?
21:01I'm getting up,
21:02I'm doing a funny speech,
21:03probably making fun of him,
21:04and I'm sitting right there.
21:05And that's it?
21:06That's it.
21:06I am not doing it.
21:07Now,
21:07your wife,
21:08is she gonna want to do
21:08the special dance
21:09because your son asked to do the special dance?
21:10Don't get my wife started
21:11on special dances
21:12because she loves,
21:14she wants to go
21:14and take dance lessons.
21:15Let's do it,
21:16let's do it.
21:16You're doing the special dance.
21:18She's like,
21:18let's get an Earth,
21:19Wind, and Fire number.
21:19I'm not doing it.
21:21A dance thing
21:22to Earth,
21:23Wind, and Fire
21:23in front of 200 guests.
21:24That's the other thing.
21:25It's a giant wedding.
21:26Will you please
21:27make me the promise
21:28that if you do wind up
21:29doing the special dance,
21:30I know you say
21:31you're not going to,
21:32but if it happens,
21:32will you bring the video
21:33of the special dance?
21:34Or maybe you and your wife
21:35come do it here.
21:36We'll get,
21:37you know what?
21:40That way.
21:41We'll get Earth,
21:42Wind, and Fire
21:43to be here that night.
21:44My wife would love
21:45to do that.
21:46We might not be able
21:47to get Earth,
21:47Wind, and Fire.
21:48We'll at least get wind.
21:48Yeah, we'll get Earth
21:49and Wind.
21:53Yeah, all right.
21:54Sounds like a good plan.
21:55That's what we have
21:56to look forward to.
21:57Here's the thing.
21:58We love her,
21:59so we're happy.
22:00Good, yeah.
22:00It's great.
22:01It's all good.
22:02Good.
22:02But you want to talk
22:03about destination weddings.
22:04Here's the ultimate.
22:04I said this to them.
22:06Destination wedding,
22:06ultimate.
22:07My parents were born
22:09in Killarney
22:09in County Kerry, Ireland,
22:11okay?
22:11In 1949,
22:12my dad,
22:13with no money,
22:14got on a boat
22:14and came to Boston
22:16with like $37
22:17in his pocket.
22:18Worked for a year
22:18to save money
22:19to send back to her
22:20so she could take
22:21a boat to America
22:22so they could get married.
22:23That's a destination.
22:25Okay?
22:27That's a final destination.
22:29Dennis Leary is here.
22:30His show is going back.
22:38You trained a dog
22:40to attack him?
22:44It's a sheep-herding dog.
22:45It's just going to
22:46nip at his heel.
22:48It's working.
22:49He's still 10 seconds
22:49behind, though.
22:50All right,
22:50time for operation
22:51Who's a Bad Boy?
22:58He's gotten insane!
23:01That is Dennis Leary
23:03in season two
23:04of Going Dutch,
23:05which premieres
23:06one week from tonight
23:07on Fox
23:08and then the next day
23:08on Hulu.
23:09Congratulations
23:09on season two.
23:11That's Hal Kumpston,
23:12a brilliant young actor
23:13that I'm chasing there
23:14who's from Australia,
23:16actually,
23:16but he's a brilliant
23:18young actor.
23:19You guys spend
23:19a lot of time together
23:20because you shoot that
23:21in Ireland.
23:21We shoot in Ireland
23:22because the landscape
23:24matches the Netherlands
23:25because it's based
23:25on a real base,
23:27army base,
23:27in the Netherlands
23:28that got closed down
23:29because of, you know,
23:30drugs and prostitution,
23:32basically.
23:33So,
23:33because they're
23:34both legal there.
23:35So we shot in Ireland
23:37because it matches
23:37and also we don't have
23:38to deal with the
23:39Dutch government
23:40or the American military
23:41because they don't even
23:42talk about that base.
23:43They just closed it down.
23:44Really?
23:44And then they opened
23:45another base
23:45and now there's problems
23:46at that base.
23:47And you can't,
23:48the country has free,
23:49drugs are legal,
23:51and there's,
23:52prostitution is legal.
23:52You can't have
23:53an army base there
23:54without dealing
23:54with those things.
23:54Yeah,
23:55but what do you expect
23:56is going to happen?
23:56But it's a bunch of
23:57mostly young guys
23:58over there.
24:00And young girls too.
24:01Have you thought about,
24:03ever thought about
24:04moving to Ireland?
24:05No, no, no.
24:06I have Irish citizenship
24:07through my parents.
24:08Oh, you do?
24:08And my kids do,
24:09which is great.
24:10Oh, that's nice.
24:10Because they can work
24:11and go to school.
24:12But you would not
24:13consider moving there?
24:14No, I mean,
24:15when we were young,
24:16we brought the kids over
24:18every summer.
24:19We'd go,
24:20I rented a cottage there
24:21so that they could
24:21hang around
24:22and get to know
24:22their Irish cousins.
24:24But I'm not one
24:25of those people like,
24:26you know,
24:26oh my God,
24:27Trump's the president
24:28and I'm going to move out.
24:29Right.
24:29This is my country.
24:30This is not Trump's country.
24:32It's nobody's country
24:33who's the president.
24:34It's our country.
24:36It's our country.
24:36So I get like,
24:38I don't judge Rosie O'Donnell
24:40because he really
24:40has it in for her,
24:41for her to go over there.
24:42But I'm not leaving.
24:43I'm not leaving.
24:44If people want me to leave,
24:45that's when I stay.
24:46Yeah,
24:46that's when I stay.
24:47My parents came by boat.
24:48I'm not leaving.
24:49How long have you
24:49been married now?
24:5244 years.
24:53Wow.
24:53That's a good one.
24:55Crazy.
24:56Crazy.
24:57So, like,
24:58when you're married
24:5944 years,
25:00do you,
25:01like, for instance,
25:02on Christmas,
25:03is there anything left
25:04that you can give each other?
25:06Is there, like...
25:06This is so crazy, right?
25:08So, and I love my wife
25:10and, you know,
25:11when we met,
25:13God love her.
25:14I was broke.
25:14We didn't have any money.
25:15Right.
25:16So, but, you know,
25:17things have,
25:17we've done very well.
25:19And we've given each other
25:20everything over the years.
25:21Earrings,
25:21bracelets,
25:23watches,
25:23you know,
25:24cufflinks.
25:24I don't even wear jewelry.
25:25I don't even wear my wedding ring.
25:27You know what I mean?
25:27I'm very,
25:28like, I don't...
25:28She gave you the earrings
25:29or that was to her?
25:31Both ways.
25:32Okay.
25:33All right.
25:33So, we have everything.
25:34And our kids are healthy
25:35and happy,
25:36so we have everything.
25:36We don't need anything.
25:38So, when...
25:38And we tell the kids that,
25:39don't get us anything
25:40so they can save their money.
25:42But I know that
25:43she wants something,
25:44but she...
25:45she's over the jewelry thing.
25:47So I asked one of her friends,
25:48like,
25:48what do you think she wants?
25:49She's taken up gardening
25:50the last couple of years
25:52and she loves it.
25:53And her friend said,
25:53there's this hose that she wants.
25:57And I go,
25:57a hose?
25:58She goes,
25:58you got to get her this hose.
26:01It's a Kevlar,
26:02cut-resistant,
26:05crush-proof coupling hose.
26:07It's the cutting-edge in hoses.
26:09And I was like,
26:10okay,
26:10so I got her this hose.
26:12And I was like,
26:12I don't know if this is going to work.
26:13She opened that hose
26:15on Christmas morning,
26:17Christmas day,
26:18and she flipped out.
26:21In a good way?
26:22Yeah,
26:22she went nuts.
26:23Oh, wow.
26:23But the kids thought
26:24we were going to have sex
26:25right there
26:25in front of Christmas.
26:27She's over the moon about.
26:29It's unbelievable.
26:30Okay,
26:31can I ask this question?
26:33Let's say,
26:33let's rewind,
26:34like 45 years
26:36when you're dating.
26:37Yeah.
26:37If you had given her
26:38that very hose.
26:39If I had given her that,
26:40if I had given her that hose
26:42when we were in our 20s,
26:43she would have strangled me
26:44with the Kevlar.
26:46She would have killed me.
26:47What did she get you?
26:48She got me.
26:49I said,
26:49don't get me anything,
26:50but if you're going
26:51to get me something,
26:52I need fire-resistant gloves
26:54for the fireplace
26:55because we have
26:55a big fireplace.
26:56You've got to reach in there
26:57and move stuff around
26:58when the flame is going.
27:00Did she get you that?
27:00She got him,
27:01and I've had a boner
27:02ever since.
27:03I can't,
27:03you know.
27:04It's unbelievable.
27:05You guys ever team up
27:06and maybe, like,
27:07you move the logs around,
27:08she puts out the fire
27:09with the hose?
27:10Hey, let me tell you
27:11something.
27:12That's going to happen.
27:13That's love.
27:14When the kids aren't around.
27:16That's good.
27:17Dennis Lear, everybody.
27:19Season two of Going Dutch.
27:21Premieres on Fox
27:21a week from tonight.
27:23The next day on Hulu,
27:24we'll be back
27:24with Rachel Maddow.
27:32Next week on Jimmy Kimmel Live,
27:35Michael B. Jordan,
27:37Noel Wiley,
27:38Johnny Knoxville,
27:39and Chris Pratt.
27:41Plus music from
27:42Raphael Sadiq
27:43with Miles Kaden
27:44and Ludwig Goranson
27:45and Ed Sheeran.
27:55Hi there,
27:55welcome back to the show.
27:57We have music
27:57from the singing voices
27:58of the Huntrix coming up.
28:00Our next guest is
28:01an Emmy and Grammy-winning
28:02journalist, author,
28:04podcaster,
28:04and cable news host
28:05who might be the most
28:07important person
28:07in my parents' lives.
28:08You can watch her
28:09Monday nights on MS Now.
28:11Please welcome
28:12Rachel Maddow.
28:30Now, Rachel,
28:31I'm serious
28:32when I say that.
28:33I will tell you something
28:34about my parents
28:35who are very upset
28:36right now
28:36because they're in Ireland
28:37and they probably
28:38would have rescheduled
28:40the trip
28:40had they known
28:41you were going
28:41to be here tonight.
28:43They speak about you
28:44using your first name only.
28:46Wow.
28:46Which can be very confusing
28:48to others.
28:49They're like,
28:49you know,
28:49Rachel said,
28:50and I'll be like,
28:50oh, Rachel said,
28:51and they're like,
28:51wait, wait, wait,
28:53what do you mean?
28:53Who's in there?
28:54Rachel Maddow.
28:55I'm like, oh, okay.
28:56You gotta use
28:57both of her names.
28:59She's not your neighbor,
29:01you know?
29:01Do you want me
29:01to like visit them
29:02or could I do
29:03something nice for them?
29:04They sound like
29:05my kind of people.
29:06You know what?
29:07That's very kind
29:08of you to offer.
29:09It would be
29:09the worst day
29:10of your life.
29:15You know,
29:15it's funny
29:16because whenever
29:18anybody tells me
29:19that their parents,
29:21particularly their mom,
29:22likes me,
29:22my instinct is always
29:23to say,
29:24oh, tell your mom
29:26I said hi.
29:26But that sounds creepy.
29:29It sounds like it has.
29:31I don't exactly know
29:31why it's creepy,
29:32but it sounds oogie.
29:33Do you think so?
29:34I don't know.
29:34It sounds to me
29:35like a sitcom
29:35from the 70s,
29:36like tell your mom
29:37I said hi.
29:38Yeah.
29:39Yeah, but they wouldn't
29:40make it now
29:40because it's creepy.
29:42Is tell your dad
29:43I said hi
29:44a little creepier?
29:45Only because I'm gay.
29:46Okay, all right.
29:46Okay, all right.
29:47I guess that makes sense.
29:51Now, transitioning
29:51to a very serious topic,
29:53Minneapolis,
29:54what's happening
29:54there right now?
29:55And I don't know,
29:56something I just saw
29:58on the news coming down
29:58that something may have
29:59happened in Portland
30:00in Portland as well.
30:00I did not get to see
30:01the details on that.
30:02I'm sure you've been
30:03following that closely.
30:04And I know you are,
30:06besides doing the show
30:07every night,
30:07a student of American history.
30:09You know a lot
30:09about what's going on.
30:10Have we seen anything
30:12like this before?
30:14Anything that you can think of?
30:16There are parallels
30:18to all sorts of different
30:19slices of what we are
30:20seeing right now.
30:21But we've never had
30:23a president
30:25who thinks he should rule
30:27without being subject
30:28to elections.
30:30And this presidency
30:32is not offering this country
30:33very much right now,
30:34especially in terms of
30:35the earnest reasons
30:37that people may have
30:38voted for him.
30:39If you thought he was going
30:39to do something about inflation,
30:41he hasn't.
30:42And his tariffs made it worse.
30:43And if you thought
30:44he was going to fix
30:45health care or whatever,
30:46I mean, everybody's
30:47health care premiums
30:48are going through the roof.
30:48And that's specifically
30:50because of something
30:50that he did.
30:51He's invaded Venezuela.
30:52Maybe you thought
30:53he wasn't going to start
30:54foreign wars.
30:54All this stuff
30:55that you maybe thought
30:56was on offer from him
30:57is not.
30:59And instead,
31:00what we've got is
31:01a guy who's saying
31:02he doesn't really believe
31:03he's subject to election results
31:04if he loses.
31:05So that means he plans
31:06on staying
31:06after we want him to go.
31:08And he's essentially
31:10invading U.S. cities
31:12and using military-style force
31:15against the American people.
31:16And that is,
31:18that combination of things
31:20being deeply unpopular,
31:22nobody's ever been
31:23this unpopular
31:23at this point
31:24in their presidency
31:24except for Richard Nixon.
31:26And at this point
31:27in Richard Nixon's presidency,
31:28he was less than a year
31:29away from resigning.
31:31I mean, he's,
31:31Trump is really unpopular
31:33and the violence
31:34that he's using
31:35against the American people
31:36while telling us
31:37he doesn't care
31:37what we think
31:39is pretty unique
31:40and it's pretty radical.
31:42And that's why
31:43you're seeing so many people
31:44protest against him
31:45and I think that's why
31:45he's so worried
31:46about the protests.
31:46I know you highlight
31:48these peaceful protests
31:49on your show regularly.
31:51Do you think
31:52they do any good?
31:53Do you think
31:54that anything comes from them?
31:56Yes.
31:56You do?
31:56Yes, I do.
31:58I mean,
31:59in political science terms,
32:02there's what's called
32:02the 3.5% rule,
32:04which is that
32:05if you look at
32:05authoritarian regimes
32:07of various kinds
32:08all over the world
32:09over the last,
32:10like, century,
32:12once you have
32:133.5% of a population
32:17protesting non-violently
32:18against a dictator
32:20or an authoritarian,
32:21that is essentially
32:22an unstoppable force
32:23that can,
32:25that they can't oppose
32:26and that precludes them
32:28from consolidating
32:29dictatorial power.
32:303.5%.
32:303.5%.
32:31It's not that much
32:32larger a number
32:33than what we're already
32:34seeing in the streets
32:35against Trump.
32:35I feel like also
32:36probably 3.5%
32:37of the population
32:38is babies
32:39if all the babies
32:39mobilize.
32:42They can take care
32:43of this on their own.
32:45It's their future,
32:47you know?
32:47Yeah.
32:48I mean,
32:48the key is
32:49non-violent protest
32:50and this woman
32:51who got shot
32:52in Minneapolis,
32:53this mom,
32:54you know,
32:54she was,
32:54she was not
32:55doing anything violent
32:57and had she wanted,
32:58had she been trying
32:59to drive into
33:00those federal agents,
33:01she would have steered
33:02toward them,
33:03not away from them.
33:04Thank goodness
33:04we have a video
33:05of what happened
33:06because otherwise
33:07it might have
33:08gone unquestioned.
33:09I mean,
33:09certainly probably
33:11would have gone
33:11unquestioned.
33:12I think that's
33:13part of the reason
33:13why they're so unnerved
33:14by the number
33:15of people who just
33:16spontaneously turn out
33:17and protest against
33:18them every time
33:19they're doing
33:19these immigration raids.
33:20One of the things
33:21that people are doing,
33:22kind of the foremost
33:23thing people are doing
33:24is videotaping them,
33:25putting them on record
33:27so that we,
33:28I mean,
33:28they're covering up
33:28their faces
33:29and they're covering
33:30their badge numbers
33:31and they're not
33:31identifying themselves
33:32and they want
33:33their version
33:34of what's happening
33:35out there
33:35to be the only version.
33:36But the people
33:38can tell their
33:38own story
33:39and can take
33:39their own videos
33:40and can,
33:41you know,
33:41we can believe
33:42our own eyes
33:43against what
33:44they're telling us,
33:46the kinds of lies
33:47they're telling us
33:48about this poor
33:49young woman
33:49who they killed.
33:50Now,
33:50you were at
33:51Dick Cheney's funeral
33:53at his memorial service.
33:54I was.
33:55Invited by Liz Cheney?
33:56Yes.
33:57You were friends
33:58with Liz Cheney?
33:58I have gotten
34:00to know her
34:00a little bit,
34:01yeah.
34:01Okay.
34:02And this is somebody
34:03that is philosophically
34:04you probably don't
34:06agree on much at all.
34:08No,
34:08nothing.
34:08Not a single thing.
34:09No.
34:10No,
34:11and,
34:11you know,
34:12Dick Cheney,
34:12I actually never met him.
34:13I never spoke with him.
34:15I am completely,
34:17like,
34:18radically opposed
34:19to everything
34:20he ever did
34:21in public life.
34:22I started writing books
34:23because I was so agitated
34:25by Dick Cheney
34:26that I had a book-length thing
34:27I needed to get off my chest
34:29about how bad he was.
34:30And that was my first book
34:32which I dedicated to him.
34:34I mean,
34:34I'm really,
34:35like,
34:35I put nobody ahead of me
34:36in terms of dislike
34:38for Dick Cheney's
34:39public legacy.
34:40But,
34:41I sort of felt the same way
34:42about Liz Cheney
34:43when she got into
34:44public office.
34:45I didn't like anything
34:46about her either.
34:47But then she did
34:48a really heroic thing
34:49in her party
34:50in terms of standing up
34:50to Trump.
34:51Yeah.
34:51And she really
34:52sacrificed for it
34:54and it was a
34:54public-spirited,
34:56noble,
34:58consequential thing
34:58and I really,
34:59I really respect her
35:00for that.
35:01And her dad,
35:03like,
35:03my lifelong nemesis,
35:05stood by her
35:06and did the same thing
35:07which also was
35:08really honorable.
35:09And I did get to know Liz
35:11a little bit
35:12around just covering her
35:14and stuff
35:14and so she asked me
35:15to go to the funeral.
35:17You're there
35:18with Dr. Fauci.
35:20Yes.
35:20Was he your plus one
35:21or vice versa?
35:23Well, this is where
35:24I come out
35:25to tell you
35:25that, uh,
35:28sorry, Mrs. Fauci.
35:29Wouldn't that be
35:29the couple of 2026?
35:31Yeah.
35:34That is, um,
35:36boy, that's just,
35:37that's, that's just
35:38very odd, isn't it?
35:39It was a weird thing.
35:40I mean, I just,
35:41I mean, I just felt like
35:42if somebody asked you
35:43to go to their dad's funeral,
35:44I know how much
35:45her dad meant to her.
35:46It just,
35:46I just went there
35:47to support her
35:47and we're all more
35:49than our political views.
35:50You know, we're all
35:51more complicated than that.
35:53Yeah, that's true.
35:53It's worth being friends.
35:54You have a podcast now.
35:56No.
35:56Tell us about this podcast.
35:57It's called Burn Order
35:58and it's about the decision
36:00to incarcerate
36:02Japanese Americans
36:03during World War II.
36:04So, in World War II,
36:06there was a racial decree
36:08from our government
36:09that said not just people
36:11who were immigrants
36:11from Japan
36:12and therefore Japanese citizens,
36:14but Americans,
36:15born here,
36:16U.S. citizens,
36:16if they were of
36:18Japanese descent,
36:19if they had any
36:20Japanese racial lineage,
36:23they were expelled
36:26from the West Coast
36:27of this country
36:27and more than 120,000
36:29of them were locked up
36:30for years.
36:30It was,
36:31it's something that was
36:31so hard to believe
36:32like 10 years ago
36:35looking back
36:35and now it's,
36:37it's not as hard
36:38to believe, is it?
36:39The Washington Post
36:40just reported
36:41on internal documents
36:42in the administration
36:43that say that
36:44they want a series
36:45of temporary relocation camps
36:48where they're going
36:49to hold people for weeks
36:51and then they're going
36:51to send them
36:52to about 10 big
36:54warehouse-style facilities
36:56where they're going
36:57to hold up
36:57to 10,000 people
36:58at a time.
36:59That's exactly,
37:01exactly the structure
37:02they used
37:03for Japanese American
37:04incarceration
37:05during World War II.
37:06And they had to do it,
37:08the way they did it
37:09was by effectively
37:10defining people
37:12as no longer protected
37:13by the U.S. Constitution.
37:15They just said
37:15U.S. citizenship
37:16doesn't matter anymore.
37:18And I think
37:19that's something
37:19that this administration
37:20is more than flirting
37:22with at this point.
37:23Well, things are going great.
37:25Um.
37:29Well, I'm glad
37:30you're around
37:31to talk about it.
37:32I mean,
37:33if there's a positive.
37:34Because I might not be.
37:35That's good to me.
37:36Well, it gives,
37:37I think it gives us,
37:38you know,
37:39some things
37:40to think about at least.
37:41Of course, you know,
37:42the Rachel Maddow show
37:43is Monday nights
37:44on MSNOW.
37:45And the new podcast,
37:47Six Parts,
37:47is called Burn Order.
37:48Rachel Maddow, everybody.
37:50Thank you, Rachel.
37:50We'll be back
37:51with Huntress.
37:58Thanks to Dennis Leary
38:00and Rachel Maddow.
38:01Apologies to Matt Damon.
38:02Night Live's next.
38:03But first,
38:03the K-pop Demon Hunter
38:05soundtrack is out now
38:06here with a special version
38:07of the song Golden.
38:09It just came out
38:10moments ago.
38:10EJ, Audrey Nuna,
38:13and Riami,
38:14a.k.a. Huntrix.
38:34I was a ghost.
38:35I was alone.
38:46I was a queen that I'm meant to be.
38:49I believed to die,
38:51tried to play both sides,
38:53but I couldn't find my own place.
38:56I'm a cat that I'm child,
38:59but I'm a cat too wild.
39:01Now that's how I'm getting paid,
39:04but I'm she on stage.
39:05I'm done hungry.
39:07Now I'm shining like I'm moving.
39:12We're dreaming.
39:14Oh, we came so far now.
39:17I believe.
39:19We're going up, up, up.
39:22It's our moment.
39:24You know, together we're flowing.
39:25Gotta be, gotta be golden.
39:28Oh, up, up.
39:29I'm in our voice.
39:31Don't want to get just a woman.
39:33Gotta be, gotta be golden.
39:35Oh, I'm gone hiding.
39:38Now I'm shining.
39:40I got more to be.
39:43Oh, I won't try, no fears, no lies.
39:48That's who we're born to be.
39:53Waitin' so long to break these walls down,
39:57to wake up and feel like me.
40:01Put these patterns all in the past now,
40:05and finally live like the girl they all see.
40:08No more hiding.
40:11I'll be shining like I'm born to be.
40:17Cause we are hunters, voices, strong.
40:22And I know, I believe.
40:25We're going up, up, up.
40:28It's our moment.
40:29You know, together we're flowing.
40:31Gonna be, gonna be golden.
40:33Oh, up, up, up.
40:35With our voice.
40:37Your heart is getting just a woman.
40:39Gonna be, gonna be golden.
40:41You know, we're gonna be, gonna be golden.
40:44We're gonna be, gonna be, gonna be golden.
40:48You know, when it's our time, no worries, no lies.
40:54That's who we're born to be.
41:14That's who we're born to be.
41:16Yeah!
41:20That's who we're born to be.
41:34That's who we're born to be.
41:37I know, maybe we're gonna even be golden.
41:40I know.
41:40Bye, ma'am.
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