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90 Day Fiancé- Before the 90 Days S08E21
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00:00:00Previously on 90 Day Fiancé,
00:00:02before the 90 days, the couples tell all.
00:00:05Should we just all compare, booze?
00:00:07Grab them.
00:00:08Don't look for us.
00:00:09Sheena's gonna see me, I'm gonna get in trouble here.
00:00:11Defend me, Rick.
00:00:13Emma and Ziet, have either of you
00:00:16started dating other people?
00:00:18I've been actively dating,
00:00:20just some, you know, flings and hookups.
00:00:23A few months ago, Emma reached out to me on social media
00:00:27and she's like, I just wanna let you know
00:00:29that Rob and I have been hooking up
00:00:31for like this past year.
00:00:33Rob is completely out of my life.
00:00:36Who the cares that they hooked up?
00:00:39Trisha, you have a big update.
00:00:42Yes.
00:00:44Oh, my.
00:00:45Trisha, oh, my God.
00:00:48I am six months pregnant.
00:00:50Rick, are you the dad?
00:00:52Unfortunately not.
00:00:54Hey.
00:00:55He's a fake father.
00:00:56Oh.
00:00:57I'm more father than you will ever be in your life.
00:01:01You piece of .
00:01:04And Forrest, did you tell Sheena
00:01:06that Emma was flirting with you?
00:01:08Of course I did.
00:01:08And what did she say?
00:01:10I'm gonna rip that fake bitch's lips off.
00:01:13Oh, damn.
00:01:15Sheena.
00:01:15I didn't say anything.
00:01:17You're okay.
00:01:18Sheena.
00:01:18Oh, no, no.
00:01:19I didn't know you had this side to you.
00:01:21Oh, no, I'm not.
00:01:22Is that another lie, Sheena?
00:01:25Daniel and I are no longer engaged.
00:01:28No, no, no.
00:01:28Hold on.
00:01:29Your husband and wife.
00:01:30What?
00:01:31You tricked me.
00:01:33What?
00:01:34We went for a cleansing.
00:01:36And he said that was a wedding.
00:01:38A wedding that I didn't know about.
00:01:40What?
00:01:41Holy .
00:01:42He doesn't give a .
00:01:44Look at that smile.
00:01:45And now, he pretty much told me that I am cursed.
00:01:49What?
00:01:50I ended up in the hospital.
00:01:51I was bleeding.
00:01:52I was dying.
00:01:53What?
00:01:54I will be honest, I keep going back to Daniel
00:01:56because I'm terrified for my life.
00:01:58I feel like I'm gonna die because I am cursed
00:02:00by a Nigerian priest.
00:02:02Oh, my God.
00:02:11It was a black magic curse.
00:02:14What the hell?
00:02:16Daniel says that we are cursed by this.
00:02:19Calm down, calm down, okay?
00:02:19Have you not told me that we are cursed, Daniel?
00:02:21Yes, yes, yes.
00:02:23What the you, you, oh, shh.
00:02:26I was told that it cannot be undone
00:02:28unless I come back to Nigeria.
00:02:31Daniel, do you think these things that have happened to Lisa
00:02:33are the result of this curse?
00:02:36Yes.
00:02:37Oh, Jesus.
00:02:39That's scary.
00:02:40Lisa, he's crazy.
00:02:42Don't believe that .
00:02:42Those stuff only work if you believe it.
00:02:45Your thoughts and your words are very powerful.
00:02:47So I rebuke that.
00:02:48There's no curse on you, girl.
00:02:49Don't accept that .
00:02:51Thank you, Stig.
00:02:53I think the biggest question is why couldn't I know
00:02:57that my mother was going into the hospital and was dying?
00:03:01What is she talking about?
00:03:04Can you give us some clarity on what you're talking about, Faith?
00:03:07Mom had an eptopic pregnancy.
00:03:09What?
00:03:11She already had a hysterectomy.
00:03:13We never even considered she could get pregnant.
00:03:16Wait.
00:03:17I didn't know you could have an eptopic pregnancy
00:03:20when you had a partial hysterectomy.
00:03:22It wasn't a full hysterectomy.
00:03:23It was a partial one.
00:03:25Lisa, I'm so sorry.
00:03:26I'm so sorry, Mom.
00:03:27Lisa, I'm so sorry.
00:03:28I'm so sorry, Lisa.
00:03:29So what, I need clarification.
00:03:31What does that mean?
00:03:32Mom could not save the pregnancy, no matter what.
00:03:36Yeah.
00:03:37An ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy
00:03:39that happens outside the uterus.
00:03:41That's crazy.
00:03:43Lisa, did this happen at a hospital in Nigeria or in the state?
00:03:47No.
00:03:47I was over 10 weeks pregnant.
00:03:49It happened in the state.
00:03:50Oh.
00:03:50After you had gotten back from Nigeria?
00:03:52After I'd gotten back from Nigeria.
00:03:53We got pregnant right around the first time we had sex.
00:03:56Wow.
00:03:57Wow.
00:03:58And Daniel didn't want anybody to know.
00:04:00Faith finally found out.
00:04:02I did tell her.
00:04:03And I wouldn't even allow her to go to the hospital with me
00:04:06in fear of what Daniel would say.
00:04:08That's wild.
00:04:09I went through the whole thing by myself,
00:04:11the surgery and everything.
00:04:13He went to sleep when you said you were about to have surgery.
00:04:17Why are you accusing me?
00:04:18You blocked me.
00:04:19You've been blocking me since you left Nigeria.
00:04:21I tried to wake you up.
00:04:22Is this a long time she had been hiding herself from me?
00:04:25You want me to take responsibility of the pregnancy?
00:04:29Yes, I did.
00:04:30But, Daniel, you were not there for me.
00:04:33And I don't need you.
00:04:35I found my truth.
00:04:36I know who I am today.
00:04:38Yes, you do.
00:04:39I'm not going to let somebody push me down
00:04:40and tell me who I can be and who I can't be any longer.
00:04:43I will find my voice.
00:04:44Exactly.
00:04:45I believe in you.
00:04:46You don't have got me as anybody anymore.
00:04:48Because I don't have that kind of love for you anymore,
00:04:50Daniel.
00:04:51You ruined it.
00:04:54OK.
00:04:55There are certainly a lot of layers to this story.
00:04:58Lisa, we learned earlier that your last breakup was caused by accusations of cheating, which you denied.
00:05:05Daniel, did you accuse her of sleeping with other people?
00:05:11Um, yes, I did.
00:05:14You know, I haven't had sex with anybody since Daniel, and that's the truth.
00:05:19Now, how do I believe you?
00:05:20You don't have to believe me.
00:05:22I don't care if you believe me or not.
00:05:24How do I believe this?
00:05:24There's a guy in Nigeria here.
00:05:26She knows very well.
00:05:28OK, Daniel, hold on.
00:05:30Lisa, tell us, who is this other guy in Nigeria?
00:05:36We met on social media.
00:05:38He has been a very good friend to me.
00:05:41He was there for me when Daniel and I were going through problems.
00:05:45He was my best friend.
00:05:46He talked to me through everything.
00:05:48And I'll tell you what.
00:05:50He's no longer my best friend.
00:05:51He is the love of my life.
00:05:54Oh.
00:05:55Damn.
00:05:56At first, he was just commenting on my videos.
00:05:59It was very innocent, fun, little comments.
00:06:02And then one day, Daniel and I had a fight, and I said, you know what?
00:06:06I'm going to ask a guy's opinion if I was in the wrong.
00:06:09He actually told me Daniel was right.
00:06:11Wow.
00:06:12He took Daniel's side.
00:06:13Wow.
00:06:13And we just started talking.
00:06:15Talked about my marriages, and we talked about faith.
00:06:18We talked about everything.
00:06:20This is a lot of communication you're holding with this guy.
00:06:24I was.
00:06:25When you were in a relationship with Daniel.
00:06:27Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
00:06:28Yeah.
00:06:28OK, so do you feel like you were cheating on Daniel?
00:06:32I don't, because we weren't doing anything inappropriate.
00:06:35It was normal conversations.
00:06:38I mean, I saw the text messages.
00:06:40They were just friends.
00:06:42Maybe emotional connection, though.
00:06:44Yeah, yeah.
00:06:45She was genuine with him.
00:06:47Yeah, but still, that's a form of cheating, I think.
00:06:50You told me that you guys have been talking on video call, and you have, you know, this
00:06:55guy have seen your nakedness.
00:06:57He has.
00:06:58Yeah.
00:06:59And you have seen his nakedness.
00:07:00You and I aren't together.
00:07:01Why are we still in a relationship?
00:07:03No, no.
00:07:03We were not in a relationship.
00:07:04No, no, listen.
00:07:05Can you swap two masters at a time?
00:07:07Just because you think we're in a relationship does not mean we're in a relationship.
00:07:10Can you swap two masters at a time?
00:07:12Huh?
00:07:14Can you swap two masters at a time?
00:07:16What the hell?
00:07:17You're not her master.
00:07:20He believes that he is the master of me.
00:07:23I don't think anyone should belong to anyone.
00:07:26Can you swap two masters at a time?
00:07:28Can I have two masters at a time?
00:07:30No, I cannot have two masters, and I won't have any master.
00:07:33This guy has been looking for a way to troop in, to come in.
00:07:38Rick is nodding.
00:07:39Do you agree with Daniel?
00:07:40I believe that the man was trying to-
00:07:43Swoop in.
00:07:44Yeah, the love you have for me has been divided.
00:07:46Babe, you are sharing my love with another man.
00:07:4950-50.
00:07:5150 to him, 50 to me, right?
00:07:53She doesn't want you.
00:07:57OK, at this point, we're all curious about this mystery man.
00:08:01And we are fortunate enough to connect with him now.
00:08:05What?
00:08:06What?
00:08:06So we and Daniel can get to know him.
00:08:10Oh.
00:08:11Oh.
00:08:12Please welcome Ty.
00:08:18Everybody's going to see how she acts and manipulates.
00:08:21Starts with the waterworks.
00:08:23I feel like I wasted a lot of time.
00:08:25Don't cry.
00:08:27Yeah, I feel bad about it.
00:08:28Oh.
00:08:30There is something that I've been, like, upset about.
00:08:32I found out, like, you tried to hook up with Rob.
00:08:34I didn't do anything wrong.
00:08:36That guy's not your boyfriend.
00:08:38He's able to do whatever the he wants.
00:08:41Don't raise your voice at me.
00:08:42Don't get me mad and attack me.
00:08:44You're hooking up with other guys.
00:08:45Who cares?
00:08:49Lisa has a new man in her life.
00:08:52Please welcome Ty.
00:08:55Hi, Ty.
00:08:56Oh.
00:08:56Hi, Ty.
00:08:57Hi, Lizzie.
00:08:58Hi, Chris.
00:08:59Hi, everyone.
00:09:00Oh.
00:09:01Hi, baby.
00:09:03How are you?
00:09:04Hi, I'm good.
00:09:05I'm fine on you.
00:09:06How is everyone doing about that?
00:09:08Everyone is doing great.
00:09:12Daniel, would you like to say hello to Ty?
00:09:15Yeah, I would like to, because he's my fellow man.
00:09:17I'm not against him.
00:09:19You're not?
00:09:20Hi, Ty.
00:09:22Hi, how are you doing?
00:09:25Ty, do you consider Lisa your girlfriend?
00:09:30Yes, of course, I do.
00:09:33Do we have a big age gap?
00:09:35No hate on that.
00:09:37I mean, it just looks like it.
00:09:39It's 21 years.
00:09:40He's 31.
00:09:42How does this work going forward if Lisa's traditionally
00:09:46married to Daniel in Nigeria and now
00:09:48has a new man in Nigeria?
00:10:00Lisa, do you have plans to go to Nigeria again?
00:10:03You do?
00:10:04I do.
00:10:04To see Ty?
00:10:05Yes.
00:10:06Faith is coming with me when I go to Nigeria.
00:10:09Faith knows Ty and has approved of Ty.
00:10:14Ty and I are having a legal wedding.
00:10:19You and Ty are getting married.
00:10:21Wait.
00:10:21Ty and I are getting married.
00:10:22Wow.
00:10:22Wait, what?
00:10:23These bombs just keep dropping.
00:10:25This is a lot.
00:10:26Wow.
00:10:27So Ty, have you proposed to her?
00:10:31Not yet, we are in the process and she'll be coming soon.
00:10:35So that's when I plan to propose to her.
00:10:37Wait, what?
00:10:39Why don't you just, like, move there, take it slow,
00:10:41see how you like it, then maybe an engagement,
00:10:43then a marriage.
00:10:44Like, what's the rush?
00:10:45Ah, she's never like that.
00:10:47That's the issue.
00:10:48You're very impulsive, Mom.
00:10:49I am very impulsive.
00:10:50I am very impulsive, number one.
00:10:52That's her track record.
00:10:53OK.
00:10:54Daniel, do you have any warnings or advice to Ty
00:10:57as he prepares for his marriage to Lisa?
00:11:02My advice to him?
00:11:05Lisa, I've told him before that we are traditionally married.
00:11:11Traditionally, she's mine.
00:11:13My brother, you have to be careful.
00:11:16Are you treating me?
00:11:17No, no, no.
00:11:22If Daniel can actually talk to Lisa White,
00:11:25if Lisa was legally married, then I think there's no issue
00:11:29with me talking to Lisa.
00:11:31I'm getting married to Ty.
00:11:33I want to be away from Daniel.
00:11:34Daniel finds a way back into my life every which way I go.
00:11:39I don't think you escape from one guy and jump in with another.
00:11:43It's not about it.
00:11:43It's not just about escape.
00:11:43But you just said you can't get away from him.
00:11:45I can't get away from Daniel.
00:11:46Daniel keeps finding a way back into my life.
00:11:48And I don't want to jump into a marriage with something.
00:11:52It's not just about that.
00:11:53It feels like you're doing more of the same.
00:11:55I will be honest with you, Laura.
00:11:57I love Ty.
00:11:59Ty knows about my past.
00:12:01Ty knows about everything about me.
00:12:03Like, Daniel knows, right?
00:12:05But the difference was he accepted it from the very beginning.
00:12:08I can see the difference.
00:12:11Lisa has fell out of love with Daniel.
00:12:14If not, she wouldn't give me any chance to come in.
00:12:18OK.
00:12:19This sounds like an extremely complicated situation
00:12:22between all of you.
00:12:24Faith, thank you so much for being here.
00:12:26We really appreciate it.
00:12:28Thank you, Faith.
00:12:32Ty, it has been a pleasure meeting you today.
00:12:34Thank you for speaking with us.
00:12:36You're welcome.
00:12:38Lisa, it seems like you've moved on.
00:12:40But any final words for Daniel?
00:12:42Leave me alone and let me go.
00:12:44Let me go, Daniel.
00:12:45You say that you are my master.
00:12:47Just let me go, because I don't have a master.
00:12:49No, it's not done.
00:12:51We are traditionally married.
00:12:54Oh, my God.
00:12:55This is insane.
00:12:58OK.
00:12:58That was a lot.
00:13:00There is still a lot of things that need to be figured out.
00:13:04Everybody stretch your legs, and we'll call you back soon.
00:13:08Back soon.
00:13:16Thank you for sticking up for me.
00:13:18Thank you for holding my back.
00:13:19Yeah, I love you.
00:13:21So if I'm married, Ty, what is your percentage of approval?
00:13:2670, 75.
00:13:28And the reason it's that amount is because I really
00:13:32do think you should have a break.
00:13:36Take your time.
00:13:38I would take my time with the wedding.
00:13:39But I am still moving, Faith, to be with him and to live with him and to grow with him
00:13:44and to see what life is like with him.
00:13:46Please don't move to Nigeria right away.
00:13:48Please.
00:13:48Give it time.
00:13:50Give it time.
00:13:50It's worth waiting.
00:13:52I'm coming in the girls' circle.
00:13:53Are you OK?
00:13:54I love you and I care about you.
00:13:55I'm perfectly OK.
00:13:56I'm perfectly OK.
00:13:56That was a load.
00:13:58Yeah.
00:14:00When Ty came on, I kind of felt bad for Daniel, I'm not going to lie.
00:14:03Really?
00:14:04I felt bad that, like, Daniel had to see the guy that she's now in love with.
00:14:08Sorry.
00:14:09OK.
00:14:10Sorry.
00:14:11Sorry to interrupt for you.
00:14:12Faith, I'll see you tonight.
00:14:14But I don't think they're traditionally married.
00:14:16I don't know.
00:14:17Maybe she'll go back to women.
00:14:20All right, let's be done with me now.
00:14:24Oh, there's my Sheena.
00:14:25All right.
00:14:25Three, two.
00:14:28Now we are turning our attention to Forrest and Sheena.
00:14:32Before Forrest and Sheena can get married, they face two big obstacles.
00:14:37Forrest disapproving mom and him needing a steady job for the K-1 visa process.
00:14:44So, Forrest, you said that you're a pharmacy tech.
00:14:47Yeah.
00:14:48Mm-hmm.
00:14:49I just got my paycheck today.
00:14:53$781.
00:14:54And I'll get another one next week.
00:14:56All right.
00:14:58You think it's going to be enough to support you and Sheena?
00:15:01Um, as long as I keep this job.
00:15:04Uh, I do have to say that it really is putting a lot of stress on me and my body.
00:15:10I'm doing 40 hours a week.
00:15:13Yes.
00:15:13And then sometimes overtime.
00:15:15And when I get home, I barely have time to talk to my Sheen.
00:15:20Sheena, I love you.
00:15:23Don't cry.
00:15:24Yeah, I feel bad about it.
00:15:26Oh.
00:15:26She's going to get me going.
00:15:28I get home and I want to spend time with her and I can't because I'm so tired.
00:15:33I just pass out.
00:15:36And then it's the same thing with my mom.
00:15:38I can't spend any time with my mother either.
00:15:40That might be a good thing.
00:15:41There it is.
00:15:42Everybody thinks that I'm just like this big bad guy.
00:15:45But everybody's going to see how she manipulates.
00:15:49Starts with the waterworks.
00:15:51You're going to see.
00:15:53I have no time for anybody.
00:15:55But I want to get everything done as fast as possible.
00:15:58I feel like I wasted a lot of time.
00:16:00Keep your eye on the prize, Forrest.
00:16:02You got this, Forrest.
00:16:03One day you'll be sleeping right next to Sheena.
00:16:06I hope so.
00:16:08But I have not started the application process yet because you can't even, you know, fill it online anymore.
00:16:16It has to be on paper and I don't have a printer.
00:16:19And getting everything together, it's just very confusing.
00:16:22I'll help you with the paperwork, Forrest.
00:16:24I would love that.
00:16:26I'll help you.
00:16:27I live close to you, Forrest.
00:16:29I know.
00:16:29I promise to come and help you.
00:16:31And I can help Sheena.
00:16:32I would appreciate that, guys.
00:16:34Okay.
00:16:34Thank you so much, guys.
00:16:37You're welcome, Sheena.
00:16:38We love you.
00:16:39Sheena seems very excited about that.
00:16:42Okay.
00:16:42Well, besides the K-1 visa, another hurdle this couple has faced is family approval.
00:16:48Forrest's mom was not happy when he popped the question to Sheena.
00:16:52Now, she is here.
00:16:54Please welcome Molly.
00:16:57All right.
00:16:58Where is she?
00:17:03There we go.
00:17:06She's very deceptive, and I worry she won't actually come here.
00:17:12I started just thinking Molly was the problem, and now I switched to thinking Sheena's the
00:17:16problem.
00:17:16There's something that doesn't sit quite right.
00:17:19Sheena?
00:17:20Yes, mom?
00:17:20If the day comes, would you really actually leave and come over here and stay?
00:17:32Please welcome Forrest's mom, Molly.
00:17:35Here we go.
00:17:37Hi, Molly.
00:17:38Hello.
00:17:38Hey, mom.
00:17:39Hey, everybody.
00:17:39Nice to meet you.
00:17:40I love your dress.
00:17:40Hey, son.
00:17:41Hey.
00:17:43Welcome.
00:17:43Looking fancy.
00:17:44Ooh, thank you.
00:17:45Hey, Sheena.
00:17:47Hi, mom.
00:17:48Well, Molly, thank you so much for being here.
00:17:51You were really upset with Forrest in the Philippines.
00:17:55Are you guys back on good terms today?
00:18:01Um, we're trying to be.
00:18:03We have a type of relationship where we say what's on our mind.
00:18:09That's where we have our, you know, squabbles.
00:18:13Okay.
00:18:15Well, despite the disagreements, this mother and son relationship is very close.
00:18:20Let's take a look at some of the advice Molly gave to Forrest, including some never-before-seen footage.
00:18:28Forrest, lube.
00:18:29Yeah, right.
00:18:29And condoms.
00:18:31Right.
00:18:31There you go.
00:18:32No babies.
00:18:33Have fun.
00:18:34Be safe.
00:18:36You got this, mom.
00:18:38No, you got this.
00:18:40Dang straight.
00:18:41You have fun.
00:18:41Turn the radio up.
00:18:43Show her respect, which I know you will, and have a hell of a good time.
00:18:49You guys deserve it, okay?
00:18:50Okay, I love your son.
00:18:51I love you, mom.
00:18:53Okay.
00:18:54Good night.
00:18:54Good night.
00:18:55Yes.
00:18:56Did, uh, you guys, uh, do the old, uh, knockin' knockin'?
00:19:03No.
00:19:04No.
00:19:04No?
00:19:05No.
00:19:05No.
00:19:06Oh, okay.
00:19:07Well, there are other things that you can do.
00:19:11There's oral sex.
00:19:13Mm-hmm.
00:19:13There's fondling.
00:19:14Oh, Molly.
00:19:16You know, if we want to talk about sex with you, we'll come up and ask about it.
00:19:21Okay.
00:19:22Excuse me.
00:19:28Oh.
00:19:30I'm just glad we didn't break the bed.
00:19:31Oh.
00:19:33As of today, I am not a virgin anymore.
00:19:36It was a great sensation.
00:19:38I never...
00:19:39It's way better than what I thought, okay?
00:19:41Way better than what I do at night by myself.
00:19:43Me and my hand, I'm sorry.
00:19:45We're gonna have to break up.
00:19:48Get it, girl.
00:19:50Get it, girl.
00:19:53Action, babe.
00:19:54Way to go, Sheena.
00:19:57My hand now belongs to Sheena.
00:19:59Oh.
00:20:00Get it, girl.
00:20:02You retired it.
00:20:05All right.
00:20:06Molly, when you look back at that, do you think you were being too involved in their sex
00:20:13life?
00:20:14No.
00:20:16That's crazy.
00:20:17Yeah.
00:20:17That's crazy.
00:20:18That's wild.
00:20:19You know, like I said, we have a very open communication with each other, and that's
00:20:24just, you know, a discussion that everybody would feel comfortable talking about.
00:20:30It didn't look like anyone was comfortable when you were talking about that.
00:20:36Yeah, it's awkward to have these conversations with my mom at times, but I have to understand
00:20:43that I'm still her son.
00:20:45And it may come across as nasty sexual, oh, she's in his business, but she's just there supporting
00:20:54me.
00:20:55Actually, first, it's like quite uncomfortable, especially for my culture.
00:20:59And I'm not ready to open stuff like that, you know.
00:21:03So you and Forrest disagree, because Forrest is saying it was fine.
00:21:07Yeah.
00:21:07Sheena's saying she was uncomfortable.
00:21:09Okay, so it's to an extent.
00:21:11So, like, the lube and stuff, that was like, oh, I care about you, but then asking how our
00:21:19sex was, I do believe that was overstepping the line for both me and Sheena.
00:21:23And that was a little weird, Mom.
00:21:26That's overstepping.
00:21:28Yeah.
00:21:29It's like a matter of fact type thing.
00:21:30It's like, I don't want all the juicy details or anything like that.
00:21:34Just, okay, yes, no, fine, good.
00:21:36Do you need any guidance?
00:21:38I love that lady there.
00:21:39I love her.
00:21:40She's, she's incredible.
00:21:42Okay.
00:21:43Well, you've got a fan, Mom.
00:21:44She loves you.
00:21:46She's Karen.
00:21:47Okay.
00:21:48Don't try and marry her now.
00:21:53Molly, how do you view Forrest and Sheena's relationship today?
00:21:57I support their relationship, I do, as long as Sheena doesn't lie.
00:22:03Do you still feel like Sheena lies to you?
00:22:08Yes.
00:22:09I feel like Sheena still lies.
00:22:11Because she's very deceptive.
00:22:15Lies for what?
00:22:17What do you think she's lying about?
00:22:19Yeah.
00:22:20It comes down to the, doing the whole process with the K-1 visa and all of the money with
00:22:27her family.
00:22:28Sheena changes the story daily.
00:22:30She's very manipulative.
00:22:32Oh.
00:22:33Oh, wow.
00:22:34Yeah.
00:22:35How did you feel, Molly, when Sheena said that she would not send money to her family
00:22:40anymore?
00:22:41And then, the next day, after the conversation with her father, says she still needs to send
00:22:47them money and Forrest needs to send money.
00:22:49But that's exactly what I'm talking about, how this flip-flop type thing of tell one person
00:22:55one thing, and then tell somebody else something else, and then have it not even be the total
00:23:00truth at all.
00:23:02Actually, Forrest really wanted me to save money, so I don't know how to explain this to him,
00:23:07that it's culturally for me to have it to help my family, because my family also provide
00:23:12the stuff that I need in my daily life.
00:23:14But my family didn't have to ask for money anymore, so I happen to save money much better
00:23:20compared to the last longest years.
00:23:23So your family hasn't been asking you for money?
00:23:26No.
00:23:27No more.
00:23:28No, no, no.
00:23:28That's not what I was told.
00:23:31Her parents were asking her for money.
00:23:33As recently as?
00:23:34Yes, as recently as a week ago.
00:23:36No, no, no.
00:23:37Okay.
00:23:38Wow.
00:23:39Why does Sheena disagree with that?
00:23:42Yeah, that's what I'd like to know, Sheena.
00:23:43Uh-oh.
00:23:44It's a lie.
00:23:45What money?
00:23:46What money?
00:23:47Okay, you gonna start crying now, Sheena?
00:23:49Oh my, oh.
00:23:51That's bullying.
00:23:52Yeah.
00:23:55Molly is coming on too strong.
00:23:57Because she's interrogating.
00:23:58Yeah.
00:23:59That's why she's crying.
00:24:01No, no, I'm not crying.
00:24:02It's okay.
00:24:04My parents, they didn't ask me for the money anymore.
00:24:08Is that the truth?
00:24:10Oy.
00:24:11Molly, who told you that?
00:24:14Look at Forrest.
00:24:16Look at her.
00:24:17Oh.
00:24:17Forrest?
00:24:19Uh, yes.
00:24:21Forrest, did you tell your mom that?
00:24:24So they asked for help, but then they didn't, like, take any money from her.
00:24:30They asked for help, but she didn't send it to them.
00:24:33Exactly.
00:24:34Oh.
00:24:34Mm-hmm.
00:24:35So Sheena's not lying.
00:24:37She hasn't given them any.
00:24:38Okay.
00:24:39Right.
00:24:39But they've asked.
00:24:40But Sheena, you just said they have not asked for money.
00:24:43Mm-hmm.
00:24:44No.
00:24:45No.
00:24:46They didn't.
00:24:46But Forrest is saying the opposite.
00:24:49Yeah.
00:24:49They have asked.
00:24:50You haven't given.
00:24:51There's a difference.
00:24:54Forrest.
00:24:54I don't understand.
00:24:58Forrest.
00:24:59For, okay.
00:25:00So, Sheena, your parents said, hey, can you help me out?
00:25:04Okay.
00:25:04And then you said no.
00:25:06Right?
00:25:08Yes.
00:25:08And they didn't give them anything.
00:25:09Correct?
00:25:09That's what happened.
00:25:11Yes.
00:25:12There, there.
00:25:12That's, that's it.
00:25:13Oh.
00:25:14But you don't have to lie.
00:25:17I feel like Sheena feels intimidated by Molly.
00:25:21Because every time you talk to her, you always have this energy that you want to fight her.
00:25:26That's the last thing I want is for Sheena to feel intimidated.
00:25:30Because ultimately, I love her and I care about her.
00:25:33And I want what's best for her.
00:25:36And she loves Forrest.
00:25:37Aw.
00:25:38I know she loves him.
00:25:39I think that she's a good fit for him.
00:25:41And that's what I find so frustrating.
00:25:43I just want you to, to have a life too.
00:25:47I want you to succeed too.
00:25:49I saw what was occurring in your family.
00:25:52You're working all these hours and they just give all the money to your brother.
00:25:56No, that's not true.
00:25:58The truth is I'm helping my family and I'm also helping Forrest as well.
00:26:02That's all.
00:26:04Okay.
00:26:05Well, what's happening with your brother, Sheena?
00:26:06Your parents help your brother, but you have to help your parents.
00:26:10So your money is basically going to help your brother.
00:26:13Is that true?
00:26:14Um.
00:26:16Are your parents helping your brother?
00:26:21My brother?
00:26:22No, not so much.
00:26:23I don't understand, like.
00:26:26It's, it's a yes or no.
00:26:27That's a very vague answer that someone that likes to manipulate would give, just to be honest with you.
00:26:33True.
00:26:34Yes, you know.
00:26:35What do you mean, Elise?
00:26:36I mean, like, not so much.
00:26:38You could, it's an easy way out of lying, I think.
00:26:43Um, sorry.
00:26:44Damn.
00:26:46Forrest, you should know how much money Sheena is sending her parents, because she was supposed
00:26:51to be sending screenshots of her expenses to you.
00:26:55Has she been doing that?
00:26:56I haven't asked for them.
00:26:59Forrest, the screenshot, I could just send it to any time.
00:27:02Do you think you should send it to me on your own, like monthly or weekly, like how much you
00:27:07give your parents?
00:27:08I feel monthly, it's fine with me, I would send it to you.
00:27:11That's fine with me.
00:27:12Without, without me asking.
00:27:14Do you just, do you feel like you should do that?
00:27:15Yes, yes.
00:27:16It's not a problem.
00:27:17I just think it's funny.
00:27:18I started just thinking Molly was the problem, and now I switched to thinking Sheena's the problem.
00:27:23I'm kind of agreeing with Elise.
00:27:24I agree with Elise, too.
00:27:25I just feel like there's lots of little hiccups, and I want to say, yes, it might be a language
00:27:30barrier, but it also feels like it might not be.
00:27:34Yeah.
00:27:35There's something that doesn't sit quite right.
00:27:37I feel like it's in Sheena's nature to not be honest all the time, but I think it's coming from
00:27:43a genuine place, because she was really afraid of losing Forrest.
00:27:47She was trying to please us both at the same time.
00:27:50Yes.
00:27:50Sounds like, yeah.
00:27:51You guys are going to have to get over this, I was afraid to tell you the truth.
00:27:56Yeah.
00:27:56Because that is going to be something that is going to chip away at the foundation of this relationship.
00:28:04Yeah.
00:28:04Sheena?
00:28:05Yes, ma'am.
00:28:05I just want to know, if the day comes, would you really actually leave and come over here and stay?
00:28:14I worry she won't actually come here.
00:28:17Why is that?
00:28:18Just because I understand her need to take care of her family and be there for her family, and she
00:28:27won't leave because she's got duty.
00:28:30Actually, I happen to decide for the longest years, yes.
00:28:33But what is your timeline to actually start this process of getting the K-1 visa?
00:28:40Well, since Rick and everybody here said they would give me additional help, I would say I'm ready after here.
00:28:50One step at a time, and Sheena will be on her way over here.
00:28:55Yes.
00:28:56I'm ready to do it.
00:28:57You're ready.
00:28:58All right.
00:28:58Yeah.
00:28:59Okay.
00:29:01Molly, thank you so much.
00:29:02I know this has been very difficult for you, but we appreciate you being so open and honest with us.
00:29:07Thank you for being here.
00:29:09Thank you, Molly.
00:29:12Forrest and Sheena, we wish you the best of luck with your engagement, and we hope the K-1 visa
00:29:17process moves ahead very smoothly.
00:29:21Thank you so much, Joan.
00:29:22Thank you so much, everyone.
00:29:26All right.
00:29:27Now it is time to focus on Aviva and Stig.
00:29:31Aviva and Stig's connection in Belize was strong, but not long after the proposal, something caused him to change his
00:29:37mind,
00:29:37and we're about to learn what exactly went wrong.
00:29:41Now, before we get to the breakup, I want to talk about the start of the trip.
00:29:47Aviva, you were open to having a child very, very quickly with Stig.
00:29:52Why did you feel that way after just meeting him?
00:29:57Well, we had talked on and off for several years.
00:30:00I don't know.
00:30:01I thought we had a pretty good relationship, and I don't think I went into it wanting, like, a baby
00:30:07right away.
00:30:08However, if it happened, it happened, and I wouldn't have been upset about it.
00:30:11So, Stig, you hadn't even said, I love you, to Aviva.
00:30:17Do you think you were really ready for a child at that time?
00:30:21I mean, sometimes we think we're all .
00:30:26But I did have crazy love for Aviva, and the age that I'm at, I've already done all these crazy
00:30:33things
00:30:33and enjoyed being an artist, you know?
00:30:35So, I was very open to starting a family and all that.
00:30:39Like, I was genuine about that.
00:30:41Does anyone else think it was odd?
00:30:44Irresponsible?
00:30:44It was very irresponsible.
00:30:45I think it's super irresponsible.
00:30:47Were neither of you worried about, like, any kind of STDs?
00:30:50Those can be lifelong, as well as a child.
00:30:53Yeah, but we know we don't have any STDs.
00:30:55I mean, I wasn't sleeping around, and I believed that she wasn't sleeping around.
00:30:58You believed it, but you didn't know it.
00:31:00I mean, aren't you a little bit worried about your health and your safety?
00:31:02Of course, of course.
00:31:03I agree.
00:31:04It was irresponsible, but I don't know.
00:31:07When you love somebody, you love somebody.
00:31:09I'm pretty sure STD was sleeping around with other people.
00:31:12Nope.
00:31:12Oh, whoa.
00:31:14Forrest.
00:31:14I'm pretty sure.
00:31:16Yeah, he can say that, but he's a player, man.
00:31:19If I wasn't, no, I would put it on my mom.
00:31:21He's a superstar.
00:31:22Yeah, he's a superstar.
00:31:23He's got all those women around him all the time.
00:31:26Okay, well, before things went south with Aviva and STD,
00:31:30there was a time when it looked like this relationship was going to last forever.
00:31:34Let's take a look back.
00:31:36Oh, God.
00:31:38I decided to take Aviva to the Mine Room.
00:31:41It's one of Belize's main attractions.
00:31:43That's huge.
00:31:45Right?
00:31:46That is so cool.
00:31:50Yes.
00:31:50Want to go do that for real?
00:31:51Yes.
00:31:52Let's do it.
00:31:52Let's go.
00:32:00Maybe you should stop for real.
00:32:04I want to tell you something.
00:32:08Since the first time I met you, babe, something just made me feel like you're the one for real.
00:32:13And I want to be with you for the rest of my life.
00:32:15That's so sweet.
00:32:17So, babe.
00:32:19Will you marry me?
00:32:20Yes.
00:32:21She said yes!
00:32:26That's so sweet.
00:32:28What's up?
00:32:31Mmm.
00:32:34You're right.
00:32:37Wow.
00:32:38Aviva, what were you thinking watching that back?
00:32:41It brought you to tears.
00:32:43Yes.
00:32:44I don't know.
00:32:45I wanted it to work out so bad, I think.
00:32:48So, yeah, it's hard to see.
00:32:53Stig, when you see Aviva so emotional watching that clip, how does that make you feel?
00:33:01Emotional, too.
00:33:02And, you know, I had all intentions to start a family with her.
00:33:05It was genuine.
00:33:08But now the engagement is broken off.
00:33:12Yeah.
00:33:12How did we get to this point?
00:33:16Um, when I got home, our relationship turned really toxic.
00:33:22There was a lot of trust issues.
00:33:24And, honestly, Stig, you were mean to me.
00:33:30Why was I mean to you, though?
00:33:31Why did I get so triggered that I wanted to break up with you?
00:33:34Why was I like that?
00:33:36Jesus.
00:33:37Tell me why.
00:33:40Look at me right now and say that you didn't cheat.
00:33:44I'm like, Aviva, I hear guys in the background.
00:33:47Where are you?
00:33:48She hangs up.
00:33:48And she stopped answering my calls.
00:33:50He would go out every night and not answer me.
00:33:53And that's okay.
00:33:54No.
00:33:55No.
00:33:55He was freaking the you, you bitch.
00:33:59You drove me insane.
00:34:00So it's all Aviva?
00:34:02It's all her?
00:34:02No.
00:34:03No.
00:34:03No.
00:34:05No.
00:34:06No.
00:34:08No.
00:34:08No.
00:34:10I didn't even say that you didn't cheat.
00:34:11I didn't ever cheat on you.
00:34:13That's crazy.
00:34:16Okay, wait.
00:34:17Stig says you cheated Aviva.
00:34:18You say you didn't.
00:34:20How did he get that impression?
00:34:22While I was in Belize, right after all the ant spring drama.
00:34:25Somebody texted me and said, that guy's never gonna love you like I would.
00:34:30And then I replied, and I said, yeah, you're right.
00:34:33Because that's how I felt in that moment.
00:34:34And he went through my phone and he saw that.
00:34:37And that's as far as it went.
00:34:38And so, yeah, absolutely, I replied to that text I shouldn't have,
00:34:42especially being in Belize.
00:34:43That was very disrespectful of me, but...
00:34:46And, you know, back in Arizona, Aviva got caught talking to other men.
00:34:51Multiple times.
00:34:52I'm not going to ever be okay with being in a relationship,
00:34:54especially engaging to somebody, and you're hanging around guys.
00:34:57I'm not, I wasn't hanging around guys.
00:35:00Stig, what are you talking about when you say she was hanging around guys?
00:35:04What do you mean?
00:35:04Multiple times.
00:35:05Like, one time, Aviva told me that she wanted to go to Mexico for the weekend.
00:35:10She said, I'm going to go to an all-inclusive resort.
00:35:13I'm going to go to the pool, read a book, have a good time.
00:35:16Cool.
00:35:17I get that.
00:35:18She's trying to have a good day.
00:35:19I'm busy, too.
00:35:20But she's barely answering me.
00:35:21Any at all.
00:35:22Boom.
00:35:23Sucks, doesn't it?
00:35:24I go on Instagram, and Aviva is at a pool party.
00:35:27And her best friend posted a video,
00:35:29and they're obviously in a section with a bunch of guys.
00:35:32I call Aviva.
00:35:33She answers.
00:35:34I'm like, Aviva, I hear guys in the background.
00:35:37Where are you?
00:35:37She's like, no.
00:35:39I'm like, show me.
00:35:40She hangs up, and she stopped answering my calls.
00:35:42I told her, I don't want to be with you.
00:35:44I'm done with this.
00:36:13I was at a party.
00:36:14I'm sorry, but that's how you talk to me.
00:36:17I know you want to defend yourself, but that's how you speak to me.
00:36:19At that point, I did not talk to her like that.
00:36:22You shouldn't say those things to her at all.
00:36:25No.
00:36:25Ever.
00:36:26Never.
00:36:28Aviva pushed me to the point, and you know exactly.
00:36:30For going to dinner?
00:36:32While I was at dinner with a friend, and you were saying,
00:36:34this you, where were you?
00:36:36You were at a bar.
00:36:38So make it make sense.
00:36:39Your double standards don't make sense, and it drove me insane.
00:36:43Every day.
00:36:44Because you drove me insane.
00:36:45When you were out, I was thinking the worst.
00:36:47All I've heard is that Aviva's a cheater, but nothing from you.
00:36:51You know, where's your defense that you weren't meeting up with other women?
00:36:54Yeah, so it's all Aviva.
00:36:55It's all her.
00:36:57Honestly, Stig, me and Aviva have become really good friends.
00:37:00She told me everything that happened when she got back from Belize,
00:37:03how you treated her, how you disrespected her, how you're controlling.
00:37:07And honestly, I think she's way too good for you,
00:37:09and you were a real piece of to her.
00:37:11Well, I don't agree with you, so that's that.
00:37:14He still thinks he wasn't a dick to me.
00:37:18All right, there are two people in Aviva's life
00:37:21who had a lot of thoughts on Stig and Aviva's relationship.
00:37:24Please welcome Aviva's aunt Spring and Corinthe.
00:37:29Hi, ladies. How are you?
00:37:31Hi.
00:37:32Spring, as you look back on Aviva and Stig's relationship,
00:37:36how do you feel about it today?
00:37:38When I had left Belize, I was actually totally supportive of the situation.
00:37:43But then I've been getting messages about who he's been messing with down there.
00:37:47Oh.
00:37:48So the girl from the video.
00:37:51You were with her.
00:37:53Yeah.
00:37:54I was with her?
00:37:54Yes.
00:37:55He filmed a music video with a girl,
00:37:58and he went ghost on me after the music video.
00:38:01Like, what the f***?
00:38:02Like, how am I supposed to know that you didn't do f***?
00:38:05That did not happen.
00:38:07That's been, you're crazy.
00:38:09From what I can see, you know,
00:38:12there's a lot of accusations flying around with no real solid proof, right?
00:38:16Yeah.
00:38:17Yeah.
00:38:17Yeah, I agree with that.
00:38:19You can't keep saying that this one is a fan or this one knows you,
00:38:25this one just won't clout off of you.
00:38:28I'm trying to figure out if you're the one trying to get clout off of Aviva.
00:38:32Are you trying to move to the States so you get better music opportunities through Aviva
00:38:37because you're in the States?
00:38:38Corinne, I've been doing this since I was 16 years old in Belize.
00:38:43I'm an upcoming artist.
00:38:44I'm working hard.
00:38:45So that don't get to me, girl.
00:38:47Corinne really questions Stig's commitment to Aviva.
00:38:51And in this never-before-seen interview,
00:38:53she gives us her reason for not trusting him.
00:38:59I think that Aviva is probably blindsided by a lover.
00:39:02It's something like she's just too deep in the blue hole
00:39:06that she's not actually seeing what he's doing.
00:39:08He is just around.
00:39:09He's been around.
00:39:10He has a Spanish girl.
00:39:12He has girls pregnant all around.
00:39:14He needs to focus.
00:39:15Has pregnant girls?
00:39:17Yes, he does.
00:39:19I know for a fact that he has more than one girl pregnant right now.
00:39:23Oh.
00:39:24Oh, my God.
00:39:26Okay.
00:39:27What?
00:39:29So, Stig, Corinne just said that you have more than one girl pregnant.
00:39:36Is there any truth to that?
00:39:45How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest?
00:39:47I think it's a cluster of ****.
00:39:49I like you two.
00:39:50The more I listened, the more I think Sheena is a liar.
00:39:56You guys are seeing exactly why I've questioned everything.
00:40:00I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest.
00:40:02She's hiding something.
00:40:10Okay, Stig, Corinne just said that you have more than one girl pregnant.
00:40:20No.
00:40:22No.
00:40:23That is an out-and-out lie.
00:40:26Yeah.
00:40:30Everything he says is a lie.
00:40:32You know, Belize is a small country, and people talk.
00:40:36But how I found out about it is because he was messing with my friend,
00:40:41and he told my friend about the girl.
00:40:45And he also said that there could be another girl that was pregnant.
00:40:53And there were also rumors that he already currently has a child already.
00:41:00Stig?
00:41:01Can I ask you something?
00:41:03Yeah, go ahead, Stig.
00:41:04Go ahead.
00:41:04Listen, bro, I did not grow up with my dad, right?
00:41:07I can't wait until the day I become a dad because I want to be the best dad that I
00:41:10could possibly be.
00:41:12So, no.
00:41:13If I was a dad, I would have been the best father that I could ever be.
00:41:16So don't be playing with my name like that.
00:41:20Aviva, do you believe Stig or Corinne?
00:41:27I don't know.
00:41:27I think if he had a kid, we would know.
00:41:30Do I believe he was maybe messing with a girl?
00:41:33Yes.
00:41:34But do I believe that he has a kid?
00:41:36No.
00:41:38Okay.
00:41:39Aunt Spring and Corinne, thank you for taking the time to speak with us today.
00:41:43We really appreciate it.
00:41:45Love you, niece.
00:41:46Love you.
00:41:47Love you, Aviva.
00:41:48All right.
00:41:51Well, Aviva and Stig, we're sorry that you weren't able to work things out.
00:41:55Best wishes for the future to both of you.
00:42:00Okay, everybody.
00:42:01That was tough.
00:42:02But let's take a quick break and I'll see you back here shortly.
00:42:04Like, I don't know.
00:42:08You all right?
00:42:09No, he's a ****.
00:42:12That's **** bull ****.
00:42:14I take accountability for it.
00:42:15He doesn't take any.
00:42:16Like, I don't understand.
00:42:18Do I not take accountability?
00:42:20Yes.
00:42:20He didn't own up to, like, literally anything.
00:42:22You did amazing.
00:42:23You did.
00:42:29I really wanted to, you know, throw myself at Stig.
00:42:33I think he's full-on lying the entire time about everything with Aviva.
00:42:38Yeah, I think it's near impossible to be a faithful rap star.
00:42:42Nah.
00:42:43You know, because you're going to have women throwing themselves at you, all of your D-E-bs.
00:42:47You know what?
00:42:48I've decided I'm going to become a famous rap star.
00:42:53How do you think that went with Molly and Forrest?
00:42:55I think it's a cluster ****.
00:42:57I, like, I just, like, I don't think Sheena's being completely honest.
00:43:01And I think that Molly attacking Sheena makes Sheena more prone to lie a little bit more.
00:43:05I do not see her coming to the States.
00:43:08The more I listened, the more I think Sheena is a liar.
00:43:15And poor Forrest.
00:43:16I just want to give him a hug and be like, that **** sucks.
00:43:19Hey.
00:43:20Hey, Mom.
00:43:21Wait a minute.
00:43:22You did so good.
00:43:23I'm so proud of you.
00:43:24But I hope she's telling the truth, Forrest.
00:43:27Hey.
00:43:27Hi, Forrest.
00:43:28I'm going to interrupt you.
00:43:29Go for it.
00:43:30I want to talk to Molly.
00:43:31Molly.
00:43:32I'm sorry I was so against you.
00:43:33I came here ready to scream and yell and stop my feet and tell you what a bad mom you
00:43:38are.
00:43:38But you're not.
00:43:39You're not.
00:43:40I didn't understand how you were coming after Sheena.
00:43:42And then all of a sudden, I started watching.
00:43:45And I started seeing things.
00:43:46And she's hiding something.
00:43:49Yeah.
00:43:50You guys are seeing exactly why I've questioned everything.
00:43:53Yes.
00:43:54And you and Sheena are so perfect together.
00:43:55And I love the love that you have.
00:43:57And it's genuine.
00:43:58And it's true.
00:43:59And I see it going forever.
00:44:00But just make sure you get all that information.
00:44:04Oh, my God.
00:44:05What do I do?
00:44:06Lisa just got getting closer.
00:44:07My mom just kept getting closer.
00:44:09I'm like, I felt like I was kind of pushed into a corner.
00:44:13But has not really put a damper on how I feel about Sheena.
00:44:16I'm nosy, of course.
00:44:17Yeah, I see that.
00:44:19All right, everyone, back to set.
00:44:21I'll see you later, Mom.
00:44:23Okay.
00:44:23I love you, son.
00:44:24All right.
00:44:25Bye.
00:44:28Quiet, please.
00:44:29Lock it up.
00:44:30Three, two.
00:44:33All right, Elise and Joshua, it is your turn.
00:44:37Elise's trip to Australia was a mixed bag of good times
00:44:41and the issues they confronted along the way.
00:44:43Let's find out the details of what has happened since we last saw them.
00:44:47Elise and Joshua, shall we get moving?
00:44:49Let's do it.
00:44:50All right.
00:44:51We know about the breakup, but we also know about the reconciliation.
00:44:56How did it happen?
00:44:58We had a really bad last night together
00:45:00because everything in his life at the time was a question mark.
00:45:06Yeah.
00:45:06You know, Elise said, you know, she wasn't ready to settle
00:45:09and then she got an airplane.
00:45:13But, like, I sort of realized that she was, you know,
00:45:15she's definitely worth fighting for
00:45:17and, you know, what she wanted I could do
00:45:19and I bit the bullet and, you know, and reached out
00:45:22and just sort of said, you know, I want to make it work.
00:45:26He has changed and made so much effort
00:45:31like I've never seen before.
00:45:34Wow.
00:45:34He got a new job, a better job, with a salary.
00:45:37He stopped partying.
00:45:39We share locations.
00:45:40He's not living with the girl, Matt, anymore.
00:45:43Every question mark that I had leaving Australia,
00:45:46I now have an answer to.
00:45:47He's like, I love you.
00:45:48I can't lose you.
00:45:49I'm going to make it right.
00:45:50I'm going to do what it takes.
00:45:51And I was like, I love you, too.
00:45:53I miss you, too.
00:45:54Wait, so you finally said, I love you back?
00:45:57Yeah.
00:46:00And then he spent two and a half weeks in Miami with me.
00:46:03And how did it go?
00:46:05Amazing.
00:46:06Yeah, it went amazing.
00:46:09We got tattoos of each other's names.
00:46:11You did?
00:46:11Where are they?
00:46:12Can I see?
00:46:13Babe, show yours.
00:46:15No way.
00:46:17Wow.
00:46:17And mine is, thank you for us.
00:46:19Yeah, no problem.
00:46:21Good job, Josh.
00:46:22So cute.
00:46:23I love this.
00:46:24Very sweet.
00:46:25OK.
00:46:27Lelyse struggled with how much it felt like Joshua's friend,
00:46:31Chris, was a third wheel in their relationship.
00:46:33So it's only fitting that we have Chris here
00:46:35to join the conversation now.
00:46:37Hi there.
00:46:39Hi, hi.
00:46:40Hello, Josh.
00:46:41Lelyse.
00:46:41Thank you so much for joining us.
00:46:43Lelyse, you were surprised at how much Chris was involved in Joshua's life.
00:46:48Do you think they're too close?
00:46:51I mean, like, yeah, was it weird that Chris picked me up at the airport with Josh?
00:46:55Yeah, it's weird.
00:46:56Yeah, when I'm getting by Josh in bed, is your picture above my bed?
00:47:00Yeah, that's weird.
00:47:02Rookie's loving it.
00:47:03He's loving it.
00:47:04That's weird.
00:47:04I mean, where I'm from.
00:47:06Like, it's not normal for two dudes that are grown-ass men to live together.
00:47:10Or have portraits of each other.
00:47:12Or have portraits of each other.
00:47:13Well, Chris, we saw Elise make some demands the night that she settled into the rental.
00:47:20Do you think that she has sanders that are actually too high?
00:47:25She's high maintenance, but, I mean, we saw that coming.
00:47:28It was to be expected.
00:47:29High maintenance?
00:47:30We didn't have a toilet that worked.
00:47:33Oh, it didn't flush?
00:47:34No, it, like, you couldn't even sit on it.
00:47:37Oh, it wobbled a bit.
00:47:38Yeah, it did.
00:47:39This toilet thing is news to me, to be honest.
00:47:41I mean, she must have broken it, because it was fine before she got there.
00:47:43It's gross.
00:47:45Elise, you know how I told you when we first met?
00:47:47I was like, I don't like you.
00:47:49Yeah?
00:47:49And the reason why I didn't like you was because your standards were so high.
00:47:53What standards?
00:47:55You intimidated me.
00:47:56But I think when you went there, you called it a third world country.
00:48:00I did.
00:48:01And I'm sitting there thinking, what is wrong with you?
00:48:03I went to Nigeria, and I didn't even have a toilet seat to sit on.
00:48:06You're squatting.
00:48:07I just thought, you know, this person is high maintenance, like Josh said.
00:48:11Okay, all right.
00:48:13Now that you two are back together, Elise, let me ask you, are you confident that Josh
00:48:18will be able to contribute financially to this relationship in the future?
00:48:25I mean, that is a huge worry of mine.
00:48:28But actually, Josh, tell him what you just did the other day.
00:48:31What did I do the other day?
00:48:33Really?
00:48:37I bought you a ticket to Australia.
00:48:39So he bought me a ticket to Australia.
00:48:41Oh, that's awesome.
00:48:42And I am going, like, one way.
00:48:44Just one way?
00:48:45Yeah, crazy.
00:48:47Wow.
00:48:47Oh, wow.
00:48:48He's moving out of Sydney closer to be with his son.
00:48:51So I'm going to be staying with him.
00:48:53And then we'll see.
00:48:56Are you moving over here for good, Elise?
00:48:59Chris, I have a one-way ticket.
00:49:01Yeah, but I thought that was just because you didn't know when you were going home.
00:49:03Are you actually coming over here to stay permanently for Josh?
00:49:10Josh?
00:49:14Josh?
00:49:17So, Nat, you called Elise a psycho.
00:49:20Do you stand by those words today?
00:49:23It was warranted.
00:49:24The behavior was erratic.
00:49:26Girl, come on.
00:49:28I want to know what Josh has to say to that.
00:49:30Josh, you're pretty quiet.
00:49:37So, Josh, is Elise moving there permanently?
00:49:43Oh, absolutely.
00:49:44Like, that's the plan.
00:49:46Oh, that's awesome.
00:49:47That means I'm going to come up and visit you every two weeks.
00:49:50I just need to find a girl to bring.
00:49:52So I'm not third-wheeling.
00:49:53Chris, I'll come with you.
00:49:56You what?
00:49:57Who said that?
00:49:58Me.
00:49:59Are you sticking to him?
00:50:02Josh, fire her chicken, too.
00:50:06Okay, Elise, you sound excited to go back to Australia, but your first trip didn't go that
00:50:12smoothly.
00:50:12And things really went south when Elise discovered who Joshua was living with.
00:50:17Please welcome his friend, Nat.
00:50:19Hi.
00:50:20Hi.
00:50:21Nat, what do you have to say to people who think that you and Josh have too close of a
00:50:29relationship?
00:50:31I couldn't really care less, to be honest.
00:50:33I've got a lot of guy friends.
00:50:34I've got a lot of friends in general.
00:50:36But I say Josh is a brother.
00:50:38You know, I went through a pretty rough time last year.
00:50:43And he was there for me as I was there for him.
00:50:46So.
00:50:47So, Elise, your issue was that he lied in the beginning.
00:50:52Oh, about a lot.
00:50:54Yeah.
00:50:54Nat, do you think that Josh misled Elise in any way?
00:51:01No.
00:51:03Girl, come on.
00:51:07Okay, well, when Elise found out that Josh was living with Nat instead of his parents,
00:51:11she did not hold back her feelings.
00:51:14Take a look.
00:51:15I don't want to think of my man living with another girl.
00:51:18Do you want me to go ask every single person here?
00:51:20No, no, no.
00:51:20Because I will.
00:51:20I want an invite passing to you.
00:51:22Yeah.
00:51:22I don't give a f***.
00:51:25Hey, guys.
00:51:26Let me ask you guys all the f***ing question.
00:51:30Am I crazy?
00:51:31Or is my guy living with a girl and getting financially f***ing supported crazy?
00:51:36Did you know?
00:51:37No, he's f***ing lying to me.
00:51:40That's pretty crazy.
00:51:42Is this not crazy now?
00:51:44It could be.
00:51:45Is this not crazy?
00:51:46Yeah, but I'm having two against one.
00:51:48What the f*** am I supposed to do?
00:51:49Tell him half a story.
00:51:51Am I yelling in a bar where I live?
00:51:53She's still a psycho.
00:51:55She's toxic.
00:51:57I'm sorry.
00:52:01Whoa.
00:52:02Okay.
00:52:03I'm happy I wasn't there.
00:52:05Okay, so Nat, you called Elise a psycho.
00:52:09Yes.
00:52:10Do you stand by those words today?
00:52:15Um, I stand by the psycho word, and I'm laughing now because, um, it was pretty funny when
00:52:21we looked back at it.
00:52:23You stood by calling her psycho.
00:52:25Yeah.
00:52:26The behavior was erratic, so at the time it was warranted.
00:52:32I want to know what Josh has to say to that.
00:52:34Josh, you're pretty quiet.
00:52:35So why don't you speak?
00:52:38You know, I felt like the bigger issue was that you were, you know, you were a bit jealous
00:52:42of our relationship.
00:52:44Well, it started off on the wrong foot getting lied to.
00:52:47So therefore, of course I'm going to feel uncomfortable.
00:52:49Would you guys feel that way?
00:52:50I would.
00:52:51I would.
00:52:52Yeah.
00:52:53I have every reason.
00:52:53You didn't feel secure.
00:52:54You have every right to be angry.
00:52:55I think if I found out that my guy was living with a girl, like, I would have acted the
00:53:00same
00:53:00way.
00:53:01Especially after he lied about it.
00:53:03Yeah.
00:53:03And that's funny that, like, he would make fun of me for feeling insecure about this.
00:53:08Like, you're joking that I'm insecure about this.
00:53:11Mm-hmm.
00:53:12And yes, they did have an emotional connection every given second they were texting and calling
00:53:16each other.
00:53:17Can you let me speak?
00:53:18Yeah.
00:53:18I didn't waver from you.
00:53:20You were my priority.
00:53:21No, you didn't.
00:53:21But I'm also being there for a friend.
00:53:23You left me three or four different times while I was in Australia to go run back to that.
00:53:25She was going through a really tough time.
00:53:26Yes, she was.
00:53:27But I was over there visiting you.
00:53:29I was hysterical at one point, though.
00:53:31So, you know, maybe just take a bit of consideration for that.
00:53:35Is Josh the only person you know that could give you support?
00:53:39No.
00:53:40I have a lot of friends.
00:53:42That's great.
00:53:43And maybe one of those friends should have been the person you leaned on.
00:53:50All right.
00:53:50Let's go back to the finances.
00:53:52When Josh came to visit you in Miami, who paid for things?
00:53:58I did, mostly.
00:54:00No, that's not true at all.
00:54:02Okay, Josh.
00:54:04Three sets of flights, dinner, you know.
00:54:07Josh, you paid for my birthday dinner in Key West.
00:54:09That was it.
00:54:10So, I think if you're still doubting me being finance.
00:54:12Josh, I wasn't doubting you.
00:54:13I was answering a question.
00:54:16I know my father's concerns are very valid.
00:54:19What are those?
00:54:22I've been used in the past.
00:54:24And, like, my dad's money is not money that I can spend on Josh and I.
00:54:30Like, it's my dad's money.
00:54:31And, like...
00:54:31I fell for you before I even knew about your family history.
00:54:34Very true.
00:54:35So, Elise, explain something.
00:54:38How much do you depend on your father's support?
00:54:43I mean, not that much anymore.
00:54:47But my dad supports me.
00:54:49Like, sometimes I just, you know, write myself a check from my trust fund every month and call
00:54:55it a day.
00:54:55Okay, okay, okay.
00:54:58So, you are a trust fund baby.
00:55:02If you want to say it like that, kind of.
00:55:06It's, like, to take care of myself for the rest of my life along with the children that I'll have.
00:55:10Like, since you were born?
00:55:11Yeah.
00:55:12Hey.
00:55:14That's great.
00:55:15I'm happy.
00:55:16I don't want it.
00:55:17It's not mine.
00:55:18I didn't earn it.
00:55:18I don't deserve it.
00:55:20Hearing this about Elise is absolutely mind-blowing to me that Josh's friends would have the audacity
00:55:27to say that she's not good enough for him.
00:55:30Laura, that's not fair.
00:55:32So, you're basing it on money?
00:55:34Yeah, you can't base it on money.
00:55:36No, I'm not basing that solely on money.
00:55:38But Elise has everything going for her.
00:55:41And Josh is the one not stable, living in different places.
00:55:46And she's willing to give that up and move to Australia.
00:55:50There's no way that she's not good enough for him.
00:55:52And once again, your father has talked to you about his concerns about Josh and finances.
00:56:01What has your father said?
00:56:03That, like, I can't be stupid and, like, he's not getting me out of trouble again.
00:56:14And, like, Josh doesn't want to take my family's money.
00:56:17That's not what he wants.
00:56:19But, yeah, my dad does have concerns.
00:56:21And my dad's concerns are valid.
00:56:24My dad has a financial chokehold on me.
00:56:26Like, I have to do everything right in my dad's eyes to keep the money.
00:56:30Elise, you're not losing your trust fund moving across the world, though, are you?
00:56:34I hope to God not.
00:56:36Would you be willing to give that up to be with Josh?
00:56:39Ooh.
00:56:40Ooh.
00:56:44Oh, God.
00:56:47Elise?
00:56:55Trish, once again, congratulations on your pregnancy.
00:57:01So we're all wondering, if Rick is not the father, who is your ex?
00:57:07Um.
00:57:11Okay, Elise, it seems like you don't want to answer.
00:57:16If you had to choose, would you pick Josh or your trust fund?
00:57:27Baby, I love you.
00:57:30No way.
00:57:31I'd take a trust fund over Josh any day.
00:57:35I don't care about that's her money.
00:57:38I will make my own.
00:57:39I made a decision to make my life better, and I think I've made big steps in doing that,
00:57:43you know?
00:57:44I agree.
00:57:45But what I don't like is that I didn't hear you defend Elise when they're kind of going
00:57:50back and saying, yeah, that was psycho in that moment.
00:57:52I did defend Elise.
00:57:53No, you didn't.
00:57:55Well, you're going to Australia.
00:57:57Yeah, I'm nervous, but yeah, I'm excited.
00:58:00I'm super excited.
00:58:01Well, good.
00:58:02Well, we certainly wish you guys the very best.
00:58:04It was a rocky road for a minute, but it seems like you guys are working things out.
00:58:10So thank you so much.
00:58:11Chris and Nat, we would have felt like a piece of Josh was missing if you had not been here
00:58:16today.
00:58:16So thank you so much for taking part.
00:58:18Thank you for having us.
00:58:20Definitely if I wasn't here, you're very welcome.
00:58:24Okay, everybody, quick break.
00:58:36I'm kind of disappointed in myself that I didn't really say all the things I needed to say because
00:58:42I was scared of hurting Josh, but I felt like he had Nat's side more than mine.
00:58:48It was like weird.
00:58:49She's calling me psychotic.
00:58:50He's just like, yeah, that was psychotic.
00:58:52I was expecting more, way more.
00:58:59So I texted Josh and I was like, I'm glad you really didn't defend me when Nat called
00:59:04me a psycho.
00:59:05He was like, you made me feel tiny in front of everyone again.
00:59:08Tiny?
00:59:09I'm glad you chose your trust fund over me.
00:59:11When did you?
00:59:12You never answered.
00:59:13I didn't even answer that, right?
00:59:14That's what I thought.
00:59:15I didn't answer that.
00:59:16You never did.
00:59:16Because I will choose your trust fund over Josh.
00:59:19I mean, I would choose it over BeerCon.
00:59:22Uh-oh.
00:59:23But don't let that go in your relationship.
00:59:25No, don't.
00:59:26I feel like they're on the right path, at least in Joshua.
00:59:30He made a lot of promises and he stepped up.
00:59:33But she seems to be like a nitpicker looking for any little thing to be wrong because she
00:59:40doesn't know what she wants to do.
00:59:46All right.
00:59:47Welcome back, guys.
00:59:53Hey, here we go.
00:59:55Three, two.
00:59:57Well, it is time to put Rick and Trisha in the hot seat.
01:00:01Trish, once again, congratulations on your pregnancy.
01:00:06I can tell you are very happy.
01:00:09I'm happy I got baby.
01:00:12So, Rick, you are not the father of Trisha's baby.
01:00:16No, I'm not.
01:00:18Gosh, this story.
01:00:19So we're all wondering, Trish, if Rick is not the father, who is?
01:00:25Is it your ex?
01:00:26No, it's someone that I met two months after Rick on vacation and work trip.
01:00:38He's Australian.
01:00:40I'm not in relationship with this guy anymore.
01:00:45But we stay in touch for the baby.
01:00:50Okay.
01:00:52Rick, have you dated anyone since the breakup?
01:00:54My guess would be yes.
01:00:57Of course.
01:00:58Yes, I have.
01:00:59You have?
01:01:00Okay.
01:01:00You know, Trish broke up with me in Madagascar.
01:01:04And I was sitting in the hotel room alone.
01:01:09So instead of sitting there feeling sorry for myself, I went out to a bar.
01:01:16What better way to recover from heartbreak?
01:01:18Before I could even go inside the bar, I saw a beautiful young lady eating chicken.
01:01:31It looked good, and I asked her, hey, that fried chicken looks good.
01:01:35Smell good, look good.
01:01:37Could I get a taste of that?
01:01:38I bet that was the question.
01:01:40What did you take a bite of?
01:01:42Are you talking about just the chicken?
01:01:45That came later.
01:01:47And how long was this after Trish broke up with you?
01:01:53It was not the night of the day that she broke up with me.
01:01:57It was the next night.
01:01:59Oh, my God.
01:02:01Damn, Rick knocking them down, bruh.
01:02:03You broke up, and then the next night, you were with someone else.
01:02:08Yes.
01:02:12And how soon did you two have sex?
01:02:18Bad night.
01:02:19Oh, no.
01:02:21Jeez.
01:02:26Can I talk to you?
01:02:28There is something that I've been, like, upset about with the whole Rob stuff.
01:02:32I found out, like, you tried to hook up with him.
01:02:34I feel like I don't know who I can, like, trust.
01:02:37You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do anything wrong.
01:02:39That guy's not your boyfriend.
01:02:41Don't get me mad and attack me.
01:02:46All right, Rick, let me get this straight.
01:02:49In the brief time after you and Trish broke up,
01:02:52and before you said goodbye at the airport,
01:02:54you met another woman and had sex.
01:02:59Oh!
01:03:01Come on, if you really love someone,
01:03:03you're not about to go another girl the next night.
01:03:05But it wasn't a break.
01:03:06She said that there was no chance of us getting back together.
01:03:09But didn't you say you wanted to work on it?
01:03:12Yes, Lara.
01:03:13To me, that doesn't make me feel like you're trying to fix it with me
01:03:16if you're sleeping with someone else.
01:03:18Totally right, Rick.
01:03:19Like, you should have been honest to me, like,
01:03:21oh, I already have someone, Trish.
01:03:23You shouldn't have given me.
01:03:25And you even kissed me at the airport.
01:03:27Like, oh, Trisha, we will work on this relationship.
01:03:31Trisha, I still...
01:03:33And I told you, like, okay, I'm not promising you anything,
01:03:38but okay, we will work on it.
01:03:41Okay, Rick, and you continue to have a relationship
01:03:44with this woman after you left Madagascar?
01:03:46Yes.
01:03:47So how long was that relationship?
01:03:49Um, five months.
01:03:52Five months.
01:03:54We just broke up a couple months ago.
01:03:57And during that five-month period, were you talking to Trisha?
01:04:01Yeah, two weeks after he got back to United States,
01:04:05we still talking.
01:04:07So Trish was the ex.
01:04:09But I was completely honest with her.
01:04:12This woman was from Madagascar?
01:04:14From Madagascar.
01:04:15Okay, did you go back over and visit her?
01:04:17No, but we took a trip to Hong Kong.
01:04:20Oh, okay.
01:04:23Which is supposed to be my birthday trip.
01:04:25Which was, yes.
01:04:26Wait a minute, what?
01:04:28What?
01:04:29True.
01:04:30Ouch.
01:04:31So are you guys planning the trip to Hong Kong together?
01:04:33You know, before Rick left my country, we were talking, like, on your birthday, we are going
01:04:38to Hong Kong and have fun and go to Disneyland and something like that.
01:04:45And I found out later that he went with the girl.
01:04:48Oh.
01:04:49That's painful, man.
01:04:51She was in Indonesia while I was in Hong Kong.
01:04:54Trish, what were you doing in Indonesia?
01:04:56I was with the guy, the baby daddy.
01:04:59Oh.
01:05:00Oh.
01:05:01Okay, so it's not like I was bad.
01:05:04Okay.
01:05:04Who here thinks Rick moves on really fast?
01:05:09Let me see a show of hands.
01:05:12I love Rick's honesty.
01:05:13I do.
01:05:15I raise two hands.
01:05:17You're my boy, man, but that was pretty quick, man.
01:05:19Yes.
01:05:21I worry about you guys, like, why?
01:05:24Like...
01:05:24I have a fear of being alone.
01:05:26Then get married!
01:05:28I'm trying to find my wife, and I thought I found her in Trish.
01:05:33Oh.
01:05:33You lied to her.
01:05:35She could have been your wife.
01:05:37She wanted to be.
01:05:39That's true.
01:05:40That's why I know I made a big mistake.
01:05:45Speaking of big mistakes, let's talk about one Rick made in the bedroom.
01:05:50There was something Rick brought along with him to Madagascar that may have caught viewers off guard.
01:05:58Let's look back at that awkward exchange.
01:06:01Oh, my God.
01:06:06Hey, what are you doing?
01:06:08What makes you buy this?
01:06:11Trish let me know that she's a...
01:06:15You know, a female ejaculator.
01:06:19Oh.
01:06:21What?
01:06:23Oh, my God.
01:06:25This is why I like to call her a splash pad.
01:06:29I think that's hilarious.
01:06:31Oh, my God!
01:06:32A giant slip and slide.
01:06:33Okay.
01:06:34Has anyone else ever heard of the splash pad?
01:06:39Never.
01:06:39No?
01:06:40No.
01:06:40No.
01:06:40I am a vanilla, so I don't...
01:06:43He's vanilla.
01:06:45No, I'm not vanilla.
01:06:46I'm dark chocolate when it comes to that.
01:06:50So, is this something that you travel with, Rick?
01:06:55Um...
01:06:55Like, did you take it when you went to see your other friends?
01:07:01Oh, no.
01:07:02Was it brand new?
01:07:04You did not reuse it, Rick.
01:07:05Was it reused?
01:07:06Is it a used pad?
01:07:09A used pad?
01:07:10Oh, Rick.
01:07:11I mean, we reuse sheets, don't we?
01:07:13We put them in the...
01:07:14Oh, my God.
01:07:16Oh, my God.
01:07:17Oh, no.
01:07:18Yeah?
01:07:19He have used it with his ex.
01:07:22Call him that girl.
01:07:23Oh, Rick.
01:07:24No, Rick.
01:07:26Nasty.
01:07:27Yep.
01:07:27Okay, so let's talk about this woman.
01:07:31Rick went back to her after five days of not hearing from Trish.
01:07:37Does that seem abrupt?
01:07:40Missing for five days, that's a little sketchy.
01:07:43But you still shouldn't have gone as far as going all the way to Columbia.
01:07:48I admit to that.
01:07:49I made a lot of mistakes with Trish.
01:07:52But I didn't go at that time.
01:07:54Oh, you didn't go in that five days?
01:07:56I just booked it for a future date.
01:07:58So when you went on that trip in a future date, were you back to talking with Trish?
01:08:04We were back to talking.
01:08:05But you still went on the trip?
01:08:07Yes, exactly.
01:08:09We were talking back.
01:08:11That's really bad.
01:08:13I was confused.
01:08:15We hadn't met in person yet.
01:08:17We hadn't consummated our relationship.
01:08:19No, but after.
01:08:20You were lying on the bed with me when you pick up her call and texting her like, oh, the
01:08:25great time I had was with you.
01:08:27I miss you, baby.
01:08:30Because I didn't want her to keep calling.
01:08:32You could have just declined or not answering the call.
01:08:35I was.
01:08:36That's what I did at first.
01:08:37I declined like five calls.
01:08:39You did.
01:08:40You answered the call.
01:08:41And then she didn't stop until I texted her.
01:08:44So why would you care?
01:08:45She's your ex, though, and we were lying in the same bed.
01:08:49Am I the only person in the world that's had feelings with multiple people at once?
01:08:54No, he's not the first guy.
01:08:56He's not the first person.
01:08:57No, hell no.
01:08:58So, Rick, when was the last time you talked to your Colombian ex?
01:09:05Um, I haven't talked to her for months.
01:09:07Okay.
01:09:08And have you and Tricia had any conversations about getting back together?
01:09:14Yes, we have.
01:09:16We've talked about future plans.
01:09:19Now you're willing to take care of someone else's baby?
01:09:22That's a lot.
01:09:23Yeah, right now we have a baby involved.
01:09:25Are you going to 100% be dedicated and take care of her and this baby as your own?
01:09:30I can't.
01:09:31I'm waiting on Tricia's decision about whether or not she'll allow me to go see her again.
01:09:41Tricia, how do you feel about that?
01:09:44Do you want him to come?
01:09:50Honestly, I don't know if I want him back to my life.
01:09:54I'm afraid.
01:09:55I'm trying to see how he acts.
01:09:59It's like 50% I want him, 50% I don't want him.
01:10:05By all means, I would, if I was Tricia, I would never accept you back.
01:10:08Like, you'd be blocked on my phone and I would literally tell you to go f*** off.
01:10:11I would take him back.
01:10:14And why is that, Emma?
01:10:15He's, like, acknowledged all of his mistakes.
01:10:17And even though he has done things that he's not proud of, he really does love Tricia.
01:10:22Woman to woman, I wouldn't.
01:10:25Just because, um, some people, they have this pattern, they keep doing it like an addiction.
01:10:31I don't think it would really stop.
01:10:32He's weak in the flesh.
01:10:34There's just itchiness that he needs to scratch.
01:10:39Okay, who thinks there is a future for this relationship?
01:10:45You got to put in a lot of work.
01:10:47I believe in my boy.
01:10:48I believe in you, Rick.
01:10:49I think there's a very good chance that Tricia take me back.
01:10:53I'm not going to lie.
01:10:54I have feelings for him.
01:10:57But I'm not ready to put him in my life.
01:11:00I'm very excited to be a mom.
01:11:03And I'm really happy.
01:11:05And I don't want anyone to change how I feel right now.
01:11:10Okay.
01:11:11What a rollercoaster this has been for you both.
01:11:14We wish you luck with everything.
01:11:16And Tricia, please take care during your pregnancy.
01:11:20Congratulations once again.
01:11:21Thank you so much.
01:11:23Well, that is all the time we have on Before the 90 Days.
01:11:27The couples tell all.
01:11:28Bring out the tequila.
01:11:29Woo!
01:11:32All right.
01:11:32I want to thank all of the couples, as well as their friends and families,
01:11:36for sharing their journeys with us.
01:11:38Such a queen.
01:11:41I'm Sean Robinson.
01:11:42Thank you so much for watching, and I'll see you next time.
01:11:47You're awesome.
01:11:48You're amazing.
01:11:49I'm glad I got to meet you.
01:11:50Bye-bye.
01:11:54Yo, Rick, what's up, man?
01:11:55Hey, Forrest.
01:11:56What'd you think, man?
01:11:57We're all done with this.
01:11:58I thought today went really, really well.
01:12:00I got your sparkles all over me, bro.
01:12:02Rick, you had so much stuff going on, man.
01:12:05Oh, yeah.
01:12:05You're freaking coming back around, and you're trying your best to, you know, be a good man
01:12:10for Trish.
01:12:11I just hope I get that opportunity to go back to Madagascar and get on my hands and knees
01:12:16and show it.
01:12:25Can I talk to you?
01:12:26Yeah.
01:12:28I wanted to talk to you about something.
01:12:29Talk to me.
01:12:30Because I've been, like, upset.
01:12:31Why?
01:12:33You know, I know that we've become friends recently, and, like, I really, I really, like,
01:12:39value a friendship with you.
01:12:40Mm-hmm.
01:12:41But there is something that I've been, like, upset about with the whole Rob stuff.
01:12:45Okay.
01:12:46Because, like, you know, obviously I told you about us hooking up and, you know, everything
01:12:51that happened with me and him.
01:12:54But then I found out, like, shortly after I told you, you tried to hook up with him.
01:12:59I tried to hook up with him.
01:13:00Mm-hmm.
01:13:01That's not true.
01:13:02He, like, showed me.
01:13:03And it was multiple screenshots.
01:13:06Hey, then call him.
01:13:07Get a screenshot.
01:13:08I can, but I'm just, I'd rather, like, talk to you about it, because I thought we were,
01:13:12like, building a friendship.
01:13:13And it's just, like, it's just something that bothered me when I heard that, that you were
01:13:17trying to hook up with him.
01:13:17I wasn't trying to hook up with him, so I don't know why he's telling you that.
01:13:21I promise you I wasn't trying to hook up with him.
01:13:23I was not.
01:13:24I did talk to him at a party, like, a couple weeks ago, like, about our past year and,
01:13:28like, how we're doing.
01:13:30But after that conversation happened at the party, he said that you were trying to hook up
01:13:34with him and you were trying to Uber him to your hotel room.
01:13:36That's not true.
01:13:37And you were, like, saying, like, oh, I'm so sad that you can't come to my room.
01:13:39Like, just come and cuddle with me.
01:13:41Okay, that's not true.
01:13:42And that's crazy.
01:13:44I liked him a year and a half ago.
01:13:46Like, we had a connection, and that was it.
01:13:48This is just so annoying.
01:13:49So don't talk about it anymore.
01:13:50No, because this is just so annoying.
01:13:52So, what?
01:13:53This is just, like, a hard situation for me, because it's, like, I just, I feel like I don't
01:13:57know who I can, like, trust.
01:13:59You know what I mean?
01:13:59Like, I have this guy, like, yeah, we're just hooking up, but I developed real feelings for him.
01:14:03And when I met you, you know, like, I really cared about a friendship with you, you know?
01:14:08And then when I heard that right away, I'm just like, you know, it just feels like everyone's
01:14:11just on me.
01:14:14The vibe I'm getting from Emma right now, it seems fake.
01:14:16And, like, I don't care about Rob.
01:14:18Like, do you just think you're that hot?
01:14:19Like, bitch, you're not.
01:14:23What is happening?
01:14:24This is actually some crazy right here.
01:14:27I think Josh probably slept with Emma.
01:14:28Wait, what?
01:14:29I think Josh slept with Emma.
01:14:30Josh, do you think Josh slept with Emma?
01:14:32Mm-hmm.
01:14:33No way.
01:14:34No, I don't think so.
01:14:34I mean, why else would she be so, like, angry about it?
01:14:38Hold on, I want to hear.
01:14:40Like, I'm sorry you're hurt, but that's just inaccurate information, and the guy is known
01:14:44to be a liar.
01:14:46I don't want him.
01:14:48I have a boyfriend.
01:14:49The last thing I want is a short man.
01:14:52I'm sorry you're hurt, and I'm sorry you heard wrong.
01:14:54I don't know what else to say.
01:14:57I also didn't bring up at all any of this talk, because I knew you didn't want to talk
01:15:01about it, and I've respected you about that.
01:15:03I understand that.
01:15:03I don't know what point it's going to be.
01:15:04I think it's very weird that you're trying to play this, like, sad cry girl, like, poor
01:15:08me.
01:15:08I'm the victim.
01:15:09You're pointing a finger at me when I didn't do anything wrong.
01:15:12I'm not taking...
01:15:13Don't raise your voice.
01:15:13Girl, I'm not taking flames for something I didn't do.
01:15:17Don't raise your voice at me.
01:15:18But I didn't do...
01:15:18Don't get me mad and attack me.
01:15:21That guy's not your boyfriend.
01:15:23He's able to do whatever the he wants.
01:15:28I didn't do...
01:15:29Don't raise your voice at me.
01:15:30But I didn't do...
01:15:31Don't get me mad and attack me.
01:15:33That guy's not your boyfriend.
01:15:35He's able to do whatever the he wants.
01:15:37I'm attacking you.
01:15:37You're hooking up with other guys.
01:15:39Who's here?
01:15:39He's attacking you?
01:15:40You okay?
01:15:41Yeah, I'm fine.
01:15:42You know today when you're with Stig and you're getting blamed for something you didn't
01:15:45do?
01:15:45That's how I feel right now.
01:15:46Elise, but I'm asking you.
01:15:47I'm not...
01:15:48But I'm telling you the answer, and how many other times are you leaving?
01:15:51Yeah, I was getting ready to go, and I heard you guys chatting it up, and I just thought
01:15:54I would...
01:15:57I'm not trying to make it a party.
01:15:58It's just...
01:15:59So how do you want to end this conversation?
01:16:00Because I didn't do that, and I'm not going to get blamed for something I didn't do.
01:16:03I didn't blame you.
01:16:04Did I come and say, hey, Elise, you're a whore.
01:16:06You did this.
01:16:07No, I didn't.
01:16:07I just wanted to say goodnight to you.
01:16:10Oh, amazing.
01:16:11I promise I would say goodnight to you.
01:16:13Hi, Chorus.
01:16:14You know, I'm sorry it's going down.
01:16:16Can I say goodnight to you?
01:16:18Yes.
01:16:18I had such a fun time meeting you, and I just want to thank you for everything, and
01:16:23I'm glad that you and Josh are together and work out.
01:16:27I hope.
01:16:27I don't know.
01:16:28I don't know 100% what's going on, and so I'm like, oh my God, okay, fine.
01:16:34I'm just going to end this right now.
01:16:36I'm just going to get back home.
01:16:38So, uh, that's some crazy-ass going on here.
01:16:43Well, it seems like something is going on with maybe, like, a guy kind of named Rob.
01:16:47Uh, I don't know what the f*** is going on, but hey, we tell all, we got to tell all.
01:16:53But I'm glad I'm totally in love, and I'm getting the f*** out of here.
01:16:58Goodbye, tell all.
01:17:00Fellow car sport.
01:17:01So, leaving here, I'm finally, you know, getting my dreams and Sheena's dreams figured out with the K-1-Vs.
01:17:11And I want Sheena here 10 billion percent.
01:17:15Good night, world.
01:17:17Love.
01:17:23Did I want to confront you?
01:17:24No, because, yeah, is he my boyfriend?
01:17:26No, he's not.
01:17:26I just, I know every single one of us in this little room tends to say things we don't always
01:17:31mean when we get up to here.
01:17:33And we've been, we've been having each other's backs this entire tell-all.
01:17:41Today was a lot.
01:17:43I wasn't expecting to have such a heated exchange with Michael.
01:17:50And I was shocked when Bearcon said he paid off that debt in full.
01:17:56It was so, so wonderful meeting you.
01:18:00But our communication hasn't been super great this whole time.
01:18:05To find out, like, he paid for the apartment he's living with his parents in,
01:18:10I don't understand why that never came out.
01:18:13In a way, it makes me look at him a little bit differently.
01:18:16And it creates more doubt.
01:18:19I don't like that.
01:18:23Come with me.
01:18:26I'm really excited right now.
01:18:28Like, I want to talk to you.
01:18:29I want to talk to you, too.
01:18:33I literally hate the men in your life, too.
01:18:35I want to be a f***ing D.I., f***ing Rob.
01:18:37Like, they all suck.
01:18:38You deserve better than that anyways.
01:18:41And I'm sorry.
01:18:42Well, I accept your apology.
01:18:44I'm sorry, too.
01:18:46I feel a little bit bad because, like, I took everything I had out on her
01:18:52when it really should have been directed at Rob.
01:18:54I mean, he lied to her.
01:18:56She did not do anything wrong, and she got the wrath of Elise,
01:18:59and that was not appropriate.
01:19:04Bye, guys.
01:19:06I don't think I made any grounds today with Trish.
01:19:10I don't call you.
01:19:12I still believe that there is a chance.
01:19:14It's just the better of getting that invitation from her.
01:19:19It's cold out here.
01:19:21Is there anybody else in your life right now?
01:19:24No, there's no one else in my life.
01:19:26Promise.
01:19:29Why you gotta look at me that way?
01:19:35She's been encouraging me to go see other people
01:19:38and not to wait on her.
01:19:40I don't know how long I can wait.
01:19:44She's really special to me, but life is lonely.
01:19:52She's like, okay.
01:19:59Stig's toxicity and the way he thinks and his double standards
01:20:02are just, like, not okay.
01:20:05But I still have feelings for him.
01:20:08And I'm not gonna sit there and deny it.
01:20:11Like...
01:20:11I love you.
01:20:12I'm gonna miss you.
01:20:14I'm not really in the mood to date right now.
01:20:17I wish we just could have figured it out.
01:20:21Sorry.
01:20:22God, I feel emotional.
01:20:23I'm tired of crying.
01:20:24All right, love you.
01:20:25I love you.
01:20:25All right, bye.
01:20:26Bye.
01:20:30I'm so ready to get home,
01:20:32take a warm shower,
01:20:35and forget about this.
01:20:37I have so many questions for Joshua,
01:20:39and I don't know where we stand.
01:20:41Like, I'm genuinely wondering, like,
01:20:43what he's feeling right now.
01:20:45It wasn't like he was horrible to me.
01:20:47We're not breaking up.
01:20:49I just have done so much for this guy.
01:20:53So, Josh,
01:20:54how do you feel like things went
01:20:55between you and Elise today?
01:20:57It's just a spit in the face, you know.
01:20:59When you do contribute,
01:21:00and then you're being made out to be like,
01:21:02you know, I didn't contribute anything.
01:21:04You know, we all haven't had it
01:21:06served to us on a platter.
01:21:08He said, I can't do this fighting.
01:21:10I want to have kids with you.
01:21:11You're focusing on all the bulls**t.
01:21:13I do not want to fight with you.
01:21:16And now leaving here, I'm like,
01:21:18f**k, am I going back to Australia,
01:21:20going back into the trap
01:21:21that we're in?
01:21:21Is this, like, going backwards?
01:21:26Oh, my God, what a day.
01:21:28It gave me PTSD to see Ziet again.
01:21:31I did not like it.
01:21:33We have nothing left to say.
01:21:35I feel like I can leave here,
01:21:36and I got it all out there,
01:21:37and we can finally move forward
01:21:40and end this relationship for good.
01:21:42Still haven't found the one.
01:21:43I'm still not engaged, still not married,
01:21:46still not in a relationship,
01:21:46so I'm ready to put myself out there
01:21:49and start dating again.
01:21:53Hey, girl.
01:21:54Hey.
01:21:54I'm going to leave.
01:21:55Yeah, I think I'm going to go, too.
01:21:57All right, let's f**king go.
01:21:59Let's go.
01:22:00Let's f**king go.
01:22:01What a day.
01:22:06I didn't leave an as-is.
01:22:07I don't even f**king go.
01:22:09I'm done.
01:22:11Oh, God.
01:22:12Bitch, it's over.
01:22:13That's all I got to say.
01:22:15It's over.
01:22:15I am so done.
01:22:17I lost a love I thought I had,
01:22:20but I don't have a master anymore.
01:22:21I have a boyfriend.
01:22:22I have Thai.
01:22:24I'm going back in a healthy way
01:22:27to live in Nigeria with my new man.
01:22:30So f**k Daniel.
01:22:32I may be going to his country,
01:22:33but I'll never see him.
01:22:35Daniel, any final thoughts?
01:22:37I love Lisa.
01:22:39I love her.
01:22:40No matter her, um,
01:22:43her games,
01:22:43in the next few minutes,
01:22:45she will change
01:22:46to touch me up.
01:22:48She will ask me how I'm doing
01:22:49how everything's going.
01:22:51I see her in Nigeria
01:22:52after all the way,
01:22:54husband and wife.
01:22:56Let's get the hell out of here.
01:22:59I have a curse to break.
01:23:01I'm having this curse
01:23:02broken by a church,
01:23:04and I'm going to be cleansed
01:23:05and blessed and prayed over.
01:23:08I'm looking forward
01:23:09to having the life
01:23:10I've always wanted.
01:23:12Thai and I already have
01:23:13a honeymoon picked out
01:23:14and I'm not even engaged yet.
01:23:15Bye, Lisa.
01:23:16Bye.
01:23:17You're home safe.
01:23:18Thank you so much
01:23:19for everything.
01:23:21It's a new day.
01:23:22It's a new me.
01:23:26It's a new me.
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