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00:05Hey guys thanks so much for watching the show we have some live pods coming up on April 22nd we
00:11will be in Port Chester New York and on May 9th we will be at the Wiltern in Los Angeles
00:16for the
00:17Netflix is a joke festival so come on and hang with us I have a couple questions so like how
00:24did you guys get into wrestling no seriously so when you got you guys are obviously okay so
00:43when Nikki and I first started our wrestling journey was through diva search and this is like before
00:49social media so they were on a search for female wrestlers but this is the thing is that you didn't
00:54see it in an Instagram ad or someone's like hey it was a flyer and just like word of mouth
01:03and also like with WWE they were promoting like we're on search for female wrestlers and so we
01:09went to diva search and now Nikki and I thought okay like we're gonna show up and fight like we
01:15were ready we had bandanas just know like people other people yeah we had bandanas we weren't even
01:21like wearing makeup we had like ponytails we made shirts mine said breezy for sheezy her said Nicole
01:26for show yeah and on our butts it said the Garcia twins and like we showed up and we're like
01:32let's go
01:32and it was way different it was like girls it was more of like they kind of judged you like
01:39they were
01:39like physically looking at your body right they're kind of picking you apart a little bit and told us to
01:46go get boob jobs yeah they told you to get boob jobs yeah wow yeah so it was wait like
01:52how soon
01:53into the we were like a few minutes into it they're like well we had to get into swimsuits I
01:58go like
01:59when we got them because we ended up getting boob jobs I was like that was 15 years like later
02:03like after you yeah the best is we told them off about like boob jobs and then like later in
02:10life we
02:11went and got them but we deserved them at that point yeah I mean the boobies got worn right yeah
02:15they told us that at like you should do it on your own time exactly and that's what we did
02:20so they
02:21tell you get a boob job and you're like I'm gonna fucking kill you and your family and so then
02:26we were
02:26like they we didn't make it but you know there's this woman and she saw us and she was like
02:32hey I
02:33see a lot of potential in you two and granted you're not going further like because we weren't the look
02:37that they wanted she's like do you guys really want to fight and we're like yes she's like yeah
02:42and so she was like um we have this developmental program in McDonough Georgia it's called the deep
02:48south can we send you there for a week and do some training and then we'll give you an audition
02:53so we did that and we fell in love like we went there and it was wild because for us
02:59you know you walk
03:00in and we were watching them all train and you know taking those first back bumps and learning you
03:05know just the craft it's hard on your body but I mean we really really fell in love with all
03:10of it
03:10and seeing everyone I'll never forget they had this like show and one of the guys was like dressing up
03:15kind of like a vampire and we were like can we tonight like hide in your cape and like when
03:20you come
03:20out you're like rah and like we come out and we just had so much fun and we finally yeah
03:24we finally
03:25felt like the right place so you like the like character part of it just as much as kicking it
03:29oh my gosh big time right so much we feel like that's like the magic of pro wrestling
03:34is like those characters you can get lost in or laugh at and it's like a men's soap opera like
03:41I
03:41love those kind of days so were there any other like was it did you have any other backup plans
03:46like a rap duo or before we should have been I mean I mean I got my real estate license
03:53at one point
03:53you did yeah just no but like a diva search didn't work out oh yeah I was gonna go play
03:58pro soccer in
03:59Italy what the hell you know well she was like we really need to go wrestle and then once I
04:05got to
04:06this uh McDonough Georgia I was like once I did took my first bump in the ring I was like
04:10that's it
04:11I meant to do this so if they were gonna say no I think we would have went and did
04:14maybe the indies
04:15or something yeah for sure we would have found our way yeah so how much has wrestling changed
04:20since you guys started I mean it's changed a lot and I feel like one the biggest thing is the
04:26kayfabe of it because we have opened up that curtain to the backstage and you know we're showing
04:32you the magic now and which I think there's a part of us because of social media we're so curious
04:37about
04:37it so it's an it's really intriguing to see how we do it but then there's a part of me
04:43that's sad
04:43because when we first started when you went and did radio interviews you were in character
04:48like we were heels like you went in as heels and sometimes I guess I didn't understand that
04:53like oh someone listening is like dang the bells are bitches but you know you're in character and
04:57you're trying to get your storylines over and talking about your opponents you're fighting
05:01so there's like that a lot of that has changed and the style of wrestling for sure has changed
05:07and um I mean the bar keeps going higher and higher which is incredible to watch
05:12and I don't know I mean I feel and for women it's oh yeah so much for women for sure
05:16like beyond like
05:18they're pretty much equal now to the men which is like huge right and like I almost just as many
05:24matches and just as competitive and athletic and stuff yeah so it's changing a lot of good ways and
05:30then there's like little things you miss but that's the I think the nostalgia part yeah who are
05:33your guys is like did we did you watch wrestling you're like I want to do that like who is
05:38your
05:38like for me like Chappelle's my favorite he's the reason oh my gosh he's oh my gosh hilarious I miss
05:44a lot of his stuff the Chappelle show was so great it's ridiculous that it was only two seasons oh
05:49it
05:49was only two seasons it's just every single sketch was huge so it feels like it was this like grander
05:54thing but it was it was only around for two years wow but who was like your you know person
05:59that you
06:00wanted to emulate the most who was your favorite I mean I feel like it's crazy because there's
06:07personalities of men that you love like there was macho man who I felt like really captured not
06:12only the pro wrestling crowd but was kind of you know he captured that mainstream audience as well
06:16he's my favorite part of spider-man I mean he was bonesaw oh was he really in the first spider
06:22-man
06:22oh really remember when toby mcguire did you see the first spider-man no I mean I did but I
06:27don't
06:27remember it you did I thought Toby I would never was into spider-man Batman loved okay Superman loved
06:34well spider-man's more of like a boy I know spider-man I could never get it's more of like
06:38a
06:39guy that's dark and has a pill problem and like yeah yeah yeah I love it in the Lego movie
06:45spider-man the Lego movie no Batman in the Lego movie oh he's hilarious he's so funny oh Will Arnett
06:51he has the best voice ever yeah yeah yeah sometimes I watch the Reese's commercials and
06:55I'm like it's like ASMR he has one of the coolest voices yeah for sure but so like when I
07:02look at
07:02males like I always kind of look at him and even the way he used Miss Elizabeth like I felt
07:07like he
07:08did such an incredible job having a woman at his hand and really put her over at the same time
07:12used
07:12her to get his heat I don't know I just I thought he did such a fabulous job and then
07:17when I look at
07:17women I mean when I started watching wrestling you know I wasn't a young girl I was more it was
07:23when I hit my college time so when I was watching I was watching people like Beth Phoenix Melina and
07:28Mickie James who are all crushing it and sometimes I feel like they get a little left out of the
07:34equation of great wrestling and I'm like because what they were doing at that time you know wasn't
07:39really expected from women I thought they put on incredible matches and was really fun and Nikki
07:45and I always when we first got into it we loved watching a lot of footage of the jumping bomb
07:49angels so a Japanese tag team and they were doing incredible things so I don't know I mean I it's
07:57weird wrestling like when you get into it you'll find yourself watching old footage and present I
08:04don't know when you really get in pro wrestling we're lucky enough to like dive in and kind of get
08:09spoiled with decades of just all different kinds of wrestling and you've been doing it for it's 20 years now
08:14yeah right I don't think I'm taking breaks but I don't think people understand how hectic your
08:20guys's schedule is yeah no seasons like it just continues yeah it goes on and on how do you guys
08:25find downtime for yourselves drink a lot of wine huh-huh I mean it was kind of weird because yeah
08:37I was like when her and I were really in it like we went 10 years straight like five days
08:45a week and
08:46you just you missed weddings you missed all the important events that going on like your loved
08:51one's lives but then you know when I wanted to have kids and I stepped away I definitely had to
08:57tell
08:57myself like as a woman like you're gonna take a huge step back you know from your career and at
09:02that time they were just getting rid of the Divas title bringing in the women's and I remember I was
09:06like should I leave but I kind of was like accepted the fact that like I might be forgotten and
09:11like
09:11but there's like this new chapter in my life that's gonna be really beautiful and I was excited for that
09:16to
09:16be a mom so it's kind of fun being back now because I when I came back at the Royal
09:21Rumble I told Nikki I'm
09:22like I don't think people are gonna remember she I was like stressed out and when I came out to
09:27such
09:27a great reaction I was like oh my gosh oh hi guys oh my girl you're brie mode I know
09:32but you never
09:32know like I don't know time's really flown is that why you stepped away specifically to start a family
09:38yeah you know it was like my husband at the time was forced to retire and he was going through
09:44a lot
09:45and I just remember that year when he was forced to retire it was so hard to pack my bags
09:50and go on
09:50the road and leave him behind yeah and I just was like I think this is like God saying like
09:56it's
09:56time for a starter family because we always talked about it like we we wanted to be parents but you
10:00know in entertainment especially in pro wrestling like it always was like there's never a good time
10:05but I and so I just remember I was like one day I was like you know what let's do
10:11it you know but yeah
10:12that's why I stepped away yeah how do you balance the like the time away and do well I imagine
10:18like now
10:18they come with you well sometimes it's crazy because majority of the time like for me because
10:25Brie just came back I with co-parenting I plan my days like when I'm on the road so I
10:33have to plan
10:33my flights like okay do school drop off and then I go straight to the airport I fly to smackdown
10:39and
10:39then I make sure I'm home in time to like pick them up from school but like this past time
10:45it was
10:46probably the first time Mateo has really come on the road that's right right like on the road as
10:50like far as like the wrestling road right um yeah which was fun um but I always tell Brie I
10:58go why is
10:58it I just stopped making it like a New Year's Eve resolution because I'm always feel like my
11:02resolution every year is I'm gonna find balance this year never find balance it's just like so
11:07impossible and I finally realized you just got to take 24 at a time day by day because kids always
11:14have different needs our careers are just it's like I mean you know being in entertainment
11:18everything's so different you book something you have to be somewhere you have media you have this
11:23now that we all zoom all the time it's like hey you have a meeting you have media it's just
11:28non-stop
11:29do they know you guys are cool finally just found out and what is what was their reaction
11:36because I imagine your fans are like rabid right like if someone knows who you guys are they're like
11:42holy shit like you guys have like a cult follow like that's what's so cool about the WWE is people
11:47they follow you for yeah such a cool are they like what the fuck they I remember the first time
11:52picking
11:52Mateo up and we got McCartney goes are you Nikki Bella and I was like who told you that and
12:00because I
12:00never told him about that are you Nikki for show yeah yeah mom for show mom for show um and
12:09then he I
12:11was like yes I am Nikki Bella and he's like you wrestle and I'm like I do wrestle and so
12:17we had a
12:18like full-on talk so now at times like yeah we'll be talking to people and then he'll just interrupt
12:23and
12:23go do you know she's Nikki Bella and I'm like damn but now we just found out this on this
12:28trip that
12:28she's Brie Bella that was his first time oh you didn't put two and two together no because and it
12:33was she's
12:34always anti-breezy I'm at anti-breezy and I think for so long as even when Nikki went back like
12:38I'm still
12:39to them like a mom but my son he's obsessed with wrestling and he literally I he was like because
12:47he'd watch
12:47his dad all the time my husband just retired last year and he would always be like you should challenge
12:53yourself like be a firefighter wrestler and I'm like I was a wrestler he's like no you weren't and I'm
12:58like
12:58I guess I was and I don't let them watch YouTube so we didn't good yeah so like I never
13:04have shown
13:05him my footage but when he saw me at the rumble and then my last two matches now when I
13:09come home
13:09I'll be on the couch and he'll be like missile drop kick I'm like oh and I'm like so now
13:14he wants
13:14to wrestle me all the time which I love but he he does think I'm cool that's like I can
13:19see it even
13:19in his eyes like he's like whoa yeah how do you guys balance being out with your kids and getting
13:24because that's a new thing where I'll I'll take my kid out on like in the stroller and work and
13:30then sometimes people come over and I'm up my my whole line has been like hey I'm with I'm like
13:37this is this time you're in dad mode right but like how do you toe that fine line where it's
13:41like
13:42respectful but also just like respect like my personal space I mean my husband he always does a
13:47good job like if people come out and be like oh I'm sorry with the family right now
13:51but I I'm not because I'm such a people pleaser and they know that you can kick their ass too
13:55which is yeah that would help yeah yeah I'm they're like we could beat up Pete yeah yeah he best
14:01be
14:01nice to us yeah I guess we I don't know I feel like I should be better at times with
14:07it because
14:07sometimes I'll give in and I'll be like okay okay like quick but I think people I also go by
14:13off my
14:13kids energy like they're not a lot of our fans they've been respect yeah they've respected the
14:18kids I've actually been really shocked with how fans have been with that like oh I see your son
14:23like is it okay they'll always ask a lot of people do do that I mean she even was talking
14:28with someone
14:29at the flag football game and they were live streaming the whole time she had no idea oh you
14:33didn't know no like that's a thing and then it was everyone I was like oh my gosh what I
14:38was like
14:39oh god thank goodness I made it I was talking about Wrestlemania but I like literally it was
14:44like a younger guy and I'm like oh you have a nice body you should be a wrestler Wrestlemania is
14:49coming
14:49up and it was only because it was such an awkward photo and everyone left and I was standing there
14:53and I was like oh hi life it was a live stream the whole time we were always taught that
14:59in wrestling
14:59like perception is reality but I get really mad at some of the perception of people because it's not
15:04reality and I'm like you only knew them what a giant yeah and then they'll look at me and they'll
15:10go whore and I'm like because I'm single baby it's like they just call you she's such a whore she's
15:16single yeah fuck her she's cleavage whore and I'm like yeah and then like the whore guy walking by
15:24is like oh he's amazing look at him and he's aging so great god bless him fuck you
15:32oh my gosh it's so true it's so true whore whore I get that one a lot well the live
15:39stream they're
15:39like she's so horny I'm like oh my god promoting someone for wrestling I didn't even know it was
15:44the most uncomfortable conversation the men on the internet in the wrestling industry I mean they
15:50even like call themselves something they're so brutal to women like the women in our industry to all
15:57of us what they're terrible what's the writers room like so a lot of our writers though you know
16:02you'll hear a lot of great ideas you don't know what's gonna end up going through and then they'll
16:07have like head of creative so it usually will go then through like the top of creative of whether
16:13it's a yes or no so it's interesting because I see our writers work so hard and they put so
16:19much
16:20thought and detail and elaborate stories but sometimes that doesn't always come off is like how much
16:25detail they yeah right put in well it's also it like relies heavily on your guys's performance
16:31yeah well in time yeah and yeah like you guys are command like live performing and commanding like
16:39you know crowds of like 20,000 people like that's fucking terrifying right right or writer might think
16:45oh we get eight minutes tell the story tonight and then you know you're in 30 minutes before you're
16:51walking out and they're like oh we have three minutes to tell the story now right and everyone's
16:55scrambling have you guys had live changes where like they're like hey we're like not doing that
16:59anymore yeah like right before oh gosh yeah why especially back in the day I feel like we were hit
17:04with that a lot did you guys ever have like a little bit of competition with each other no no
17:10I mean
17:10we went against each other for a bit I got do you mean like actually competing or like like not
17:17in the
17:17show like oh no we root for each other yeah we're each other's biggest cheerleader I think being
17:23twins though we've been compared our whole lives and I think we've kind of been used to that so when
17:29it I don't know Nikki and I have always worked really great as a team just in the sense of
17:33like
17:34one people will be like are you guys twins we're like yeah and then they'll go like look at our
17:39features and like well actually you you're like this and that so we've been used to that our whole
17:42lives older all the time all the time and even like when we're we're on the soccer field people
17:48would be like oh well Nikki is like better at this and that like constantly being compared so I think
17:52we hate like it came to us yeah yeah but working together we're like each other's biggest cheerleader
17:58because we're like you know we know we need to give each other the confidence and the boost
18:01yeah and where did you guys grow up mainly Scottsdale Arizona oh wow yeah zonies so we
18:09it'd be hot there cars be melting I mean you could like have baked cookies on your car I mean
18:15when we gave birth yeah to the boys it was like I remember it was like 120 degrees in the
18:22room
18:22and I was in the room outside I mean outside but my room wouldn't get under like 80 degrees because
18:28where the sun was facing and as you're about to birth a baby I was like oh I'm like why
18:33do I still
18:33live here I'm out oh so you lived there for you guys so we lived there it was mainly
18:38third grade to high school then we went back to Cali we were born in San Diego a lot of
18:43our
18:43families from outside of there so we went back to Cali we were mainly San Diego and then she went
18:49back to Phoenix first and then I had just moved there and then the pandemic hit and then I had
18:54a
18:54baby and then I was like why did I move back here and then we moved to Northern California how
18:59long did
19:00COVID protocol take for you guys to or you guys still kept going so well because we had the babies
19:05we
19:05weren't doing it then oh you guys were out but we had to film our last season of our reality
19:09show
19:11and what would we stop for 14 days how many seasons did you guys do 10 or well one we
19:17did nine
19:17because we bailed on the 10th for total divas and then total bellas was like six six seasons
19:25we went a long 10 years how exhausting is that it's exhausting because we were wrestling full time
19:31and then on camera the entire time and we would do divas and then divas once that wrapped we'd go
19:36straight in total bellas and then when that wrapped we'd go back to total divas um we had like a
19:42few
19:42like five hard years what's that schedule is it every day they would get to film you up to six
19:47days a
19:47week yeah 12 hours a day like that's what they could we would try to like condense it yeah a
19:53bit
19:53because they would also be at tv with us so when we were going over our matches they were filming
19:57us
19:57when we'd come back from our matches when they would be ringside with us during our matches
20:02just people in your house all the time yeah we birthed babies on camera what we birthed babies when
20:10i looked at that footage i'm like i can't believe the entire world is seeing me there's a guy like
20:15in
20:15there with like a boom mic well because it was the pandemic they just had a they had my ex
20:19set up
20:20stands and he put one of the cameras just straight through the shoot so this is getting blurred but
20:28it's all thighs i mean her first one i remember the lady kept um birdie who's almost nine kept getting
20:37in her stuff and i was getting irritated i'm like why is she filming that it's so close which
20:42right that kind of stuff doesn't really air but all the editors see it
20:46yeah someone's some guy with like glasses and a diet coke is like yeah going through footage like
20:52editing room saw national geographic or whatever it is yeah what i've been loving like the last five
20:57years is we've seen like women on the rise and i know sometimes for men they can kind of be
21:02like
21:02you know because i feel like hey but it's the truth but it is because it's like our time to
21:07be
21:07equal he is no i know he is i know he wants no i'm all i'm all in favor yeah
21:13take the crown
21:14we're exhausted honest real guys are really tired yeah and women let's be honest just so you know
21:20women wanted the crown from day one but you guys kind of took it from you could have it and
21:24i feel
21:25like we do it a little bit better too but the one thing that i've really loved is just seeing
21:30the
21:30strength of women and i think that you know it really relates with nikki and i and what we've been
21:33doing in the ring for decades is you know where i found my strength and where i felt really
21:40empowered was standing in the ring and you know not only fighting other women it was kind of just
21:46just fighting in a male you know dominated industry i feel like for so long as women like i was
21:52someone
21:52who was always afraid to speak up because i didn't want to say the wrong things and get made fun
21:57of or
21:58do i sound educated enough am i up to par but the one thing i love about wrestling is like
22:02it opened up
22:03this side of me where i felt really badass and then i started to know how to defend myself but
22:08i i just felt like i started to know who i was and for so many women out there i
22:12always suggest like
22:13you know combat sports martial arts all that there's something about it that it brings out
22:19this confidence in you totally and this side of like if you're a woman and you know how to find
22:24your voice and protect yourself like you're unstoppable right i think physical strength is a big part of
22:31mental strength and people don't realize that and i think as divas as female wrestlers started to
22:37recognize that of like the empowerment but when you're in there slamming people which is crazy and
22:42doing the craziest moves and you could also do it with men it was just the mindset of it you
22:48realize
22:48you can conquer so much and and it's weird because everywhere we go we always have women stop us
22:53and just be like you're our inspirations like you're our goals and i'm like really like in what way and
22:58it always is connected to working out like there'll be like you know i started working out because of
23:03you and all that and i go oh it's like the physical strength part but i think that's a part
23:08of us women
23:08that had been suppressed for so long and i'm not saying we've all been doing sports forever and all
23:13that but it's awesome when you can truly express it and people actually respect it and right now in
23:18pro wrestling we're seeing that where it's more women's matches than they've ever seen every night when
23:22you watch wrestling um the women are being way more respected just like the men i mean it's been
23:28it's an incredible time to be a woman right now this will be your first wrestlemania in how many
23:32years 11 wow first wrestlemania in 11 years are you guys jacked up so jacked up so they just announced
23:39our match last night and so we we're so excited we're really excited there's something very special
23:45about walking down that ramp it's like like super bowl in a way we'd always call it but it's like
23:50a very
23:51special special ramp you get a walk down if you ever get the opportunity yeah and it's neat because
23:55nikki actually just found this video i don't know how long ago it was and we were talking we're like
23:59we wish wwe had women's tag team titles we always wanted that like yeah to go and so that was
24:06always
24:06something we really wanted and then when we both retired then they came and we're like oh man like
24:11we missed the timing right but the fact that we can actually fight for them it's been a dream come
24:16true and right now too the women's tag team division's on fire like there's so many incredible
24:22teams to fight which is awesome so we just feel like you know sometimes you like vegas yeah
24:28timing is everything timing is everything it's nice that it's west coast too because a lot of our fam
24:33gets to come um i don't know there's just so much you know when you like brie and i are
24:38like vision
24:38board people and like we'll look at like oh my god it's such a full circle moment we manifested it
24:44and like in the most perfect way where like kids won't be asleep it's like full circle moment we're
24:50in the desert we're west coast we're like 2026 don't even know what that year has to do with it
24:57but you know year of the horse oh that's right we're saying year of the horse what does that mean
25:02strength so last year was year of the snake so they say more like introvert you're going through
25:06feelings and then you shed that and then the horse comes through which it did here in 2026 and then
25:12now you're going to take everything with that strength and snake are you guys very into the
25:16stars i love all of that and crystals we believe all that so there's one question i've been asking
25:22everyone like and subscribe just like like and subscribe smash that like button yeah and send to
25:28you all your friends i um the question i have is what is something that you've learned from your
25:35personal ex own personal experience that wasn't taught to you like um like so that's a great question
25:41that like works in your everyday life i mean mine i feel like anytime i feel really overwhelmed and i
25:47don't really have clarity and what i'm doing or what's going on and i just it's like i don't know
25:54i need a moment i always have to go to nature whether that's like going to my gardens being in
26:01the coop
26:01with my chickens you're going i do i have six my girls i know i love them she is great
26:08going on a
26:08hike but it always reminds me just to be in the present and to live and what really life's about
26:16like when i feel like the wind going through my hair and like the sun kissing my skin and just
26:22hearing
26:22the birds i'm like oh this is living right and it just completely grounds me and puts everything in
26:28perspective and i was never taught that i just that's what i found and i just feel like my soul
26:35always needs so for me um one of like when i went through like one of the hardest times in
26:42my life
26:43i was like okay i need to hit this head on so i'm gonna take out alcohol i'm gonna take
26:49out sugar
26:50i'm gonna increase my nutrients and like increase meditation but i felt like
26:56i was able to overcome and heal so quick from i mean it was my divorce and i felt like
27:03i was just
27:03able to heal so quickly because i was just able to fight through like every emotion that i was going
27:09through and i still had really bad nights and bad days but it was crazy how like just one day
27:15i felt so
27:15healed and i felt like if i was putting a lot of toxins in my body i wouldn't have gone
27:22down that path
27:23right um and i went off social media i didn't look at anything on the news just disconnected
27:29three months from life all of it that's really but oh yeah when you're when you have not as now
27:35that
27:35i'm sober with like now i really feel things yeah and it like hurts and it hurts but then you
27:41process
27:41it right you're like okay i feel this and yeah you feel it so hard but then you heal so
27:47great thank you
27:49guys for doing my podcast yeah i know thanks for having us and guys uh wrestlemania it's on the 18th
27:5518th and 19th las vegas the bella twins are back so make sure you check it out and thank you
28:02again
28:02for coming yeah thank you so much for having us
28:19you
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