00:00it was a shocker though shocker shocking i believe that this red wedding we saw over the weekend if
00:09you're a game of thrones fan was in the works for weeks but the more that i hear that clip
00:15the more i think that was the nail in the coffin along with the yankees series that that answer
00:23to wiggies question the nonchalance that led all of us honestly to sit here and think wow
00:29he really must feel like he can be here as long as possible yes i think that that was the
00:35nail in
00:35the coffin of you think you can trot out that team against the yankees and that because you think that
00:42we're just gonna fire the guy who puts together the roster every three years and you'll be safe
00:47until you decide you want to jump up to the front office and be that guy yourself so you think
00:52it
00:52was prior to the yankee sweep that they were thinking about it or that breslow had concerns
01:01about alex cora back channeling like he back channeled on heim bloom or whatever the comments
01:08that he was making about the young guys and the roster and and then the rosenthal reaction showed
01:13you that what mego's saying is right if you're in a good place you don't need to bend over backwards
01:19like like cora was trying to do on sunday there was clearly an issue with the front office and with
01:26the manager and that what the manager said publicly or at least in a production meeting was something
01:32that had been irritating breslow behind the scenes and mego you you i i agree with you and you i
01:37think
01:38it was your lead that you had this morning where you are like you know breslow trying to maybe go
01:46to
01:46them and saying hey listen you know maybe alex just can't figure it out can't get it done or he's
01:53like you said he's trying to you know it's self-preservation but he he's putting that bug in
01:58their ear and they're like and they might have been like no alex is our guy well what about what
02:04he said to ken rosenthal no he's that guy we're gonna give him a leash you guys will figure it
02:08out
02:08it's the ken rosenthal stuff then it's the yankee series then it's like this guy thinks he's
02:14untouchable he really sounded like fully a i i'm here as long as i want to be guys right and
02:21then
02:21after that i'll go up to the front office right like that's what it sounded like right and brez is
02:26like see john i told you the guy thinks you know he's taking your kindness for weakness you know he
02:33just
02:33thinks he can say whatever about you know maybe the new financial model that you have with some of
02:38these younger players and he's not 100 on board and you know and i was like well you know it'd
02:43be
02:44more beneficial if we don't give bregman the no trade call clause and he's like oh they don't know
02:49what they're doing have we ever seen something like this in boston sports where it's not just the head
02:56coach getting axed but everybody who pledges their loyalty to him it's a good point that that's the
03:03that's the shocking part because you can say hey it's not often that a manager gets axed in april
03:09but it happens we see coaches get axed a couple games into the football seasons or whatever six games
03:16in but that and all the assistants connect go with him yeah yeah because even mayo you still had
03:23bill's son on the staff right like yeah no i mean i would have expected if you were going to
03:29do
03:29something and try to you know light a fire under the team that it's andrew bailey or it's pete fatsy
03:38or what it's it's you know it's one of those guys right it's not uh your manager and everybody who
03:46is
03:46loyal to him right so and then with the core part i was shocked but then the veritech shocked me
03:53to
03:53another level because i would have thought they would have just all right we'll elevate him but yeah
03:58anybody connected to core they they went down people keep texting in and saying they didn't
04:02let jason veritech go they they they they offered him a like a job that i'll i'll let him speak
04:11about
04:11it but it's not a baseball operation okay so it's more like a demotion than in his mind i would
04:18imagine
04:18because if if it's something good he's probably still here unless he feels like you know what i could
04:24get another you know coaching job or maybe i i'm a candidate that could be a manager i think he's
04:31on
04:31the side of the roster that was delivered to them was not better than last year's roster i would think
04:40he's on that he would be on that side of things so in his mind it's not alex cora it's
04:47not what they
04:48did from a coaching perspective it's what they were given they you know what they were given to
04:54make the chicken salad out of right now isn't with all the other sloppiness of how this all was
04:59executed over the weekend though isn't that another point of sloppiness where they're like oh but
05:03veritech's reassigned and it sounds like they didn't even confirm with him that he wanted to be
05:09reassigned and still be with the organization maybe that was their their way of saying all right we can
05:14be a little bit loyal to him like hey listen rather than here's another position if you want it
05:18if you don't then you know you know good luck and get on the flight home yeah get on the
05:25coaches for
05:26hire llc bus yeah beef up that resi i am i am still like seriously interested in hearing from people
05:33that
05:33believe alex cora still is a great manager who can who is very talented at making the most out of
05:40the
05:40players that he manages because that has not been evident and so if you hate the if you hate the
05:46decision then you need to defend what the manager has been doing and explain to me why they've been
05:51so bad so often with him as the manager right i think i did that one time as a lead
05:56and you guys
05:57poo-pooed me i wouldn't say you guys but maybe just callers in general megal you weren't here but i
06:02i want
06:03to say it was i went back in his whole 10 year i think he had three winning seasons um
06:08where he was
06:09above 500 well he won a world series here uh doc rivers won a suit uh an nba title i'm
06:15okay with
06:16that if you want to if you want to give claude julian won a stanley cup just because john farrell
06:20won a world series right so joe mazula has won an nba finals and he's fighting he's fishing for
06:26lobster right right does joe mazula get to be here for the next 30 years if the team is not
06:33performing
06:33well because we'll just say oh that he won a championship bill belichick won six and they
06:39were like yeah all right we're gonna move on from this guy so i don't think i understand you were
06:45able to win a world series and alex cord did a tremendous job people loved them the players loved
06:49them but uh prior to last season when you made the postseason the three years prior to that you missed
06:57the postseason and i think you you ended up in last place two of those three years it sounds like
07:02the young guys you heard roman anthony before so i'm just gonna say young guys like they really
07:07like chad tracy they played for him recently in triple a i know he's very well respected in triple
07:12a in the minors but like then when duran and uh and trevor story are on the other side and
07:19they don't
07:20even want to talk about it or they're very pissed off that they weren't asked about it they were just
07:24told like is there going to be any kind of weird divide in the clubhouse of these younger guys who
07:30are like hey we still want this season to mean something and the older guys who are like
07:34everybody that we played for that we cared about just got sent out on the street well we have been
07:39told that when it comes to the leadership void it was gonna be filled by trevor's story is the way
07:46i
07:46guess that's a question is the way he reacted publicly questioning the direction of the franchise
07:52going forward is that what a leader does no because you have a gun when you have a bunch of
07:55young
07:55guys in the in the clubhouse no that's not what a leader does is it is elite does a leader
08:00do what
08:01jaron duran does and shoo the uh shoo the reporters away like he doesn't have time to talk about it
08:06right no leaders don't do that but the thing that some of these young guys the thing about the clubhouse
08:11is is that the majority of the clubhouse is the younger guys and they're probably telling those guys
08:17whether it's a guy like contraria's or somebody like that or even if it's a brez bot like listen
08:22story and duran they ain't gonna be here for too long you don't want to hit your wagon to those
08:27guys interesting you see what i'm saying like duran i'm with curtis probably gets traded by the trade
08:33deadline so he probably can be out the door and story they probably figure something out with him
08:39after the season but those are two guys if you're young you do not want to hit your wagon and
08:43the thing
08:44with uh with the story and the duran stuff like was there a follow-up and i'm not like i
08:50just like
08:50you stink you've been awful your manager got fired because you haven't won games it's simple
08:58like we can get into the politics of it but you were nine games under 500 in april which is
09:05hard
09:05to be that bad you played a three-game series at home against the yankees that you needed to win
09:10and you scored three runs in three games and the first order gill has been awful this year for the
09:17yankees like you should have been able to i understand you know freed and schlittler are good
09:22but like there's no introspection whatsoever from them and that like that that alex cora allegedly and
09:32this isn't a smear campaign because greg heard it well before this allegedly blocked a trade of duran
09:38which to me would have been one of the great opportunities to unlock something that cora's
09:44been bitching about you can't on one hand say i have too many outfielders and then say don't trade
09:50one yeah but you understand he wants any kind of veteran he wants to deal with the old veteran guys
09:57and not deal with the young guys let me just tell you jaron duran seems like really low maintenance oh
10:01wait like what are we talking about he's either calling people derogatory names or flipping off a fan
10:08like what are we doing oh i want to have guys that are easy to manage like jaron duran is
10:14that 978 text
10:16on the subaru of new england text line says how did you guys not see this coming with veritech when
10:21he had to come on your show and beg for a new deal from craig breslow that's right well i
10:27don't i don't
10:28know what the i i just think that that breslow probably wants his own people in there i guess
10:34i although he did the he did the alex cora deal that new deal happened while breslow was
10:40at the helm so i think maybe it gets to the the point and to megal's point a little bit
10:46is where you know you sit down with your boss john henry sam kennedy and say hey listen
10:53i like core as a manager but our beliefs are not the same and it could be too much of
11:01a tug and
11:01pull pause when it comes to me as the push and pull whatever you want to use whatever words you
11:09prefer but me as the gm and when my manager is not on board with some of the decisions that
11:15i think is
11:15going to be best for the team don't you think that has to be kind of difficult for a guy
11:20like breslow
11:21and a guy like core this is walter from new bedford what's up walter hey good morning guys great show
11:29i listen to you every morning on my two-hour ride to new bedford every day i just want to
11:34say i think
11:35the nail in the coffin for alex cora was i happen to be effing way one of the games when
11:40the fans
11:41were chatting uh sell the team sell the team so i think that maybe john henry might have taken it
11:47personal and and and because alex cora probably wasn't delivering on what he was supposed to do or
11:53what he was forced to do that could be one and the second one the comments about needing veteran
11:59players which i agree uh and i'm sure that didn't help so those are my thoughts on on the firing
12:07thank
12:07you guys yep all right well we will talk to sam kennedy about this on the show tomorrow i don't
12:15know what
12:16we'll get there but we will we'll try we'll see what we can see what we can get was this
12:21a well
12:22you'll ask him well i'm learning what bulldog means i am a georgia bulldog and i'm gonna say sam
12:27was this a brez bar thing or was this something that you guys were on board with
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