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00:01April 30th, 2012.
00:04From Comedy Central's World News Headquarters in New York, this is The Daily Show with Jon
00:10Stewart.
00:18Welcome to The Daily Show, my name is Jon Stewart, how are we going for you tonight?
00:22Let me tell you about our guests.
00:25Let me tell you about our guests, we're very excited about this.
00:27Zach Walls, author of the book, My Two Moms, it is an ode to his two moms and how they
00:33raised him.
00:34It's excellent.
00:35It's really going to make whatever you get for your mom on Mother's Day, really just, hey
00:43look, flowers.
00:44Yeah, well, Zach Walls, he wrote his mom's a book.
00:49So take your flowers and go f**k yourself.
00:55Well listen, it's good to be here.
01:00It's good to be here tonight because we begin tonight talking about the young people.
01:04Generation X, is it, what's that, they're 40 now?
01:08Oh my God.
01:09How old am I?
01:11Is that, what?
01:12What?
01:13That is outrageous.
01:15I can't even hear you, I'm so...
01:18They say young people are in play this election year, so it's not going to be enough for presidential
01:23candidates to make a couple of those token MTV appearances and pretend they got Jay-Z on
01:29their Walkman.
01:30Is that, what?
01:32What do you mean people don't listen to the Walkman?
01:34How do we get here?
01:36All right.
01:39These candidates are going to have to do some real heavy duty pandering, like on the subject
01:43of student loans.
01:447.4 million undergrads from moderate income families currently rely on student loans subsidized
01:51by the federal government.
01:52Federal student loan rates right now are at 3.4%.
01:55If Congress doesn't act, it will rise to 6.8%.
01:59Stopping this from happening should be a no-brainer.
02:01Ah, so you're going to have Biden do it.
02:03A no-brainer.
02:06Boom!
02:07Boom!
02:08Boom!
02:13Actually, he's a very accomplished senator.
02:16I apologize, sincerely.
02:19Of course, these types of entitlements are anathema to the Republican Party.
02:22Let's see how that'll be handled by their nominee, or should I say, Romney.
02:29Trademarks.
02:30I fully support the effort to extend the low interest rate on student loans.
02:37Woo!
02:38Look who's not running in a conservative primary anymore.
02:43Of course, he's still Romney, the candidate with the uncommon man's touch.
02:47We've always encouraged young people, take a shot, go for it, take a risk, get the education,
02:54borrow money if you have to, for your parents.
02:56Oh!
02:58Now, now, now, of course I realize not everyone's parents have money readily accessible.
03:04Some of your parents probably have money in offshore trusts or restricted stock.
03:09In that case, you might want to auction off some of your parents' artwork.
03:16All right.
03:18So, Obama and Romney agree, but the power for this resides in the legislative branch.
03:23I'm sure the real obstacle here, House Speaker John Boehner.
03:27Nobody wants to see student loan interest rates go up.
03:31Oh, my God.
03:33Everybody agrees the planets are aligning.
03:36This is the dawning of the age of offshore.
03:41We're going to get a bill to keep interest rates on student loans.
03:46We're going to get a bill to keep those rates from doubling.
03:49The Obama administration is threatening to veto a bill designed to keep interest rates on
03:54student loans from doubling.
04:01What happened?
04:03We were all friends.
04:04We agreed.
04:05Remember, we were singing songs from the hair.
04:08What's the problem?
04:10The issue is really how they do it.
04:12Oh, right.
04:14Keep forgetting we have to pay for this crap.
04:16Republicans are proposing what they call eliminating a, as they put it, a slush fund that was created
04:21by Obamacare.
04:23Well, who would be against eliminating a slush fund?
04:26Slush is a terrible thing.
04:27I'm from New York.
04:28I know slush.
04:29It's like a rainwater and dog urine slurpee.
04:35What's in this slush fund?
04:37Democrats are hitting at them saying you're going to be targeting, in part, things for women's
04:42health, testing like mammograms and that kind of thing.
04:45Oh.
04:46So this is more of a mammogram and pap smear slurpee.
04:56You know that 7-Eleven's second least popular slurpee flavor behind blue.
05:03All right, Democrats, how are you going to pay for it?
05:06Democrats are proposing a different way to pay for it.
05:09They want to do what they call eliminating a corporate tax loophole.
05:14There are lots of loopholes that we could close.
05:16My colleagues have mentioned big oil and big gas.
05:19We could close those loopholes.
05:21We have got proposals from the other side of the aisle, from our friends in the Senate,
05:26that want to tax small businesses.
05:28The job creators at the very time when our economy is in such trouble.
05:32Oh, well, we certainly don't want to punish the most successful amongst us.
05:38How about the most armed amongst us?
05:40Defense is not something to play games with.
05:43Defense is not something to stand up and say, hey, I'm a cost cutter.
05:49Sure.
05:50Oh, for God.
05:50Sure.
05:52Sure.
05:52We can't touch our already streamlined defense budget.
05:55It might affect our flying hologram laser tank program.
05:59Um...
06:01By the way, here's how old people are in Florida.
06:04That guy's named Mr. Young.
06:07You know what?
06:08This is good.
06:10That's a terrible thing.
06:15This is good.
06:17But this is good.
06:18This is good that we now know the parameters of the conversation that our country needs
06:23to start having.
06:24Everyone's saying, if we want government to help people, we have to pay for it.
06:28Everyone's agreeing on that.
06:29Democrats think closing corporate loopholes and raising marginal tax rates on the wealthy
06:32could cover any increases in discretionary social spending.
06:36Republicans believe we have plenty of discretionary social spending and any increase in that should
06:41come at the cost of other discretionary social spending.
06:44It's an interesting, fundamental debate, one that we would be well served to have.
06:49Now, if you will, let's watch the debate we're actually having.
06:54They come up with a pay for that is a disgraceful, grotesque pay for that goes after women and
07:00children in the name of protecting student loans.
07:03I mean, you're yelling fire and there's no fire.
07:07But they really see now as an opportunity to attack women's health.
07:10To accuse us of wanting to gut women's health is absolutely not true.
07:17There is a level of hypocrisy on this floor that is staggering.
07:21It makes me so angry.
07:22I'm so angry I could spit.
07:27And the people who work with him say, you are actually.
07:32By watching this debate, I think spit would be the most substantive thing to come out of this debate.
07:37It was lame, but there was one kind of great moment.
07:39When a congressman from Minnesota was so vehemently defending the Republicans' excellent treatment of women by, you watch.
07:49What we're talking about is using a slush fund that is provided to the secretary to spend as she sees
07:57fit.
07:57And that is perceived as an attack somehow on women.
08:01What a surprise in this election year.
08:04There are another 30 seconds, please.
08:06I yield.
08:06There are adequate.
08:08There are multiple.
08:09There are multiple.
08:12We have a great record on women.
08:14I need 30 more.
08:15Shut your f***ing trap.
08:17Shut your mouth.
08:19We're going to keep going.
08:20There's no war on women here.
08:32Very much.
08:33If there's anything more awkward than sex, it's the way we handle the way anybody else has sex.
08:38Brings us to our latest installment of...
08:41Gay Watch.
08:42First up, the White House, where the president seems intent on squandering the goodwill gained with the repeal of Don't
08:47Ask, Don't Tell.
08:49President Obama is under fire from LGBT activists, this time for refusing to sign an executive order banning workplace discrimination
08:56against federal contractors based on their sexual orientation and gender identity.
09:01Oh, snap! Obama, you just got the White House glitter bombed.
09:07And on a white surface, that is never coming off.
09:10So what's Obama's excuse for failing to secure basic workplace protections for gay federal contractors?
09:15The president is dedicated to securing equal rights for all LGBT Americans.
09:21Our hope is these efforts will result in the passage of ENDA, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, which is a
09:28legislative solution to LGBT employment discrimination.
09:31Oh, so you just need to get that passed to the Congress. So you prefer a legislative solution.
09:35You know, for my... Remember, your boss is not a big fan of waiting around for a dysfunctional Congress to
09:40do its job.
09:42We can't wait for an increasingly dysfunctional Congress to do its job.
09:55You probably didn't hear him say it. You probably just read what he said and thought it said,
10:03Ooh, we can't wait for a Congress to do its job.
10:09Where they won't act? I will. I've told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can
10:15take without Congress.
10:17Oh, I found one. How about you sign the executive order that would protect gay people in the workplace? That
10:22would be an easy one.
10:23The approach we're taking at this time is to try to build support for passage of this legislation, a comprehensive
10:30approach to legislate on the issue of non-discrimination.
10:37All right, I get it. Go f*** yourselves. Okay, good.
10:41Well, guess what? The states are rising up. There's gay rights legislation pending right now in North Carolina.
10:48Residents will say yay or nay on a constitutional amendment that, if approved, would define marriage explicitly as being between
10:55a man and a woman.
10:56Although gay marriage is already illegal in the state, if passed, the amendment would make it illegal in the state
11:02constitution.
11:02I'm sorry, I did not realize how weak straight marriage was in North Carolina.
11:09Oh, maybe I did. Okay, maybe I did.
11:12But I don't know how, uh...
11:18I don't know how this new amendment changes that.
11:21But go, reinforce away. It's like wearing suspenders and a belt.
11:25Sewing up your zipper to make sure no one blows you.
11:30So while gays have been let down by politicians on...
11:32You like that, don't you?
11:34Yeah.
11:35Yeah.
11:36Yeah.
11:37Yeah.
11:40While gays have been let down by politicians on both sides of the aisle, perhaps the biggest battleground is the
11:44aisle itself, specifically the candy aisle.
11:46Mike and Ike are splitting up over creative differences.
11:50Now the story goes that they can't agree on their ideas for the candy.
11:54Mike wants to pursue music, and Ike wants to be an artist.
11:57All right.
11:59Why is this in the gay watch segment and not the childhood diabetes watch?
12:04Sec.
12:05I'm being told I'm about to find out.
12:07The duo is staging a gay divorce as part of a new ad campaign to draw in younger customers.
12:20How did gay... what are you talking about?
12:24Nothing in the Mike and Ike ad campaign says anything about Mike and Ike being gay.
12:29Unless you're confused by the part of the box that says original fruits.
12:33But that is not what they're talking about.
12:37Sometimes couples break up having nothing to do with gayness or not gayness or not, they're not even married.
12:45I think this is your problem.
12:46You know what, Family Research Council spokesman Tony Perkins?
12:50I feel like you're just seeing what you want to see.
12:53You're the one with the problem.
12:54We need to talk from your perspective.
12:57Meet me at camera three. I want to see what you see.
12:59You know, look.
13:03Let me... let me...
13:05Will you guys shut up?
13:07I'm talking to somebody.
13:11Look.
13:12Mr. Perkins.
13:17Why?
13:18I'm just...
13:20I'm just saying...
13:27Oh, I have such a headache.
13:31Look.
13:34When...
13:35When a patient fixates on a certain perceived reality,
13:39usually it speaks to a deep-seated fear of what lies within themselves.
13:44You see what you want to see, regardless whether or not it's there.
13:49It's the voice of the untrammeled id.
13:52Bubbling up and erupting all over yourself.
13:56You're welcome.
14:05Welcome back, my guest tonight.
14:08After addressing the Iowa House Judiciary Committee last year in opposition to a proposed constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage
14:13in Iowa,
14:14the video of his speech went viral.
14:16His new book is called My Two Moms, Lessons of Love, Strength, and What Makes a Family.
14:20Please welcome to the program, Zach Walz.
14:22What's up?
14:24What's up, man?
14:34I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
14:36Just sit down.
14:38That is outrageous, sir!
14:41How dare you!
14:42What can I say?
14:43How are you?
14:44I'm doing all right.
14:45How old are you?
14:46I'm 20.
14:46All right.
14:48Can I tell you something?
14:50This book, My Two Moms, I want to say to you this.
14:54I want you and your two moms to raise my kids.
15:00Would that be okay?
15:01Because this is such a wonderful depiction of character that I've written.
15:12What he's done, you took the Boy Scout...
15:14Scout Law.
15:16That's right.
15:17Which is...
15:17Yeah, the 12 tenets.
15:18Scott is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty,
15:25brave, clean, and reverent.
15:26You forgot dopey and sleepy.
15:29Sneezing and blitzing.
15:31And you broke it down in each one of those, and you talk about how your moms instilled those
15:39values into you as a youngster.
15:42Yeah, I mean, each chapter is an examination of the value, how I learned it.
15:45The Boy Scouts, how my mom's taught it to me, what it means to me.
15:49And then, I guess more generally, what it means to this whole debate.
15:52You look at a chapter like Loyalty and what that means, especially in terms of this debate.
15:56When my mom, Terry, was diagnosed with MS, Jackie, my short mom, would not...
16:03Hold on a second.
16:03I'm just waiting to see if that's how my kids describe me.
16:07I'm just seeing the book that they're writing, calling My Short Parents.
16:12Well, Terry's like 5'11", so it's the only way to keep them apart.
16:15I get that.
16:16And, you know, so they weren't married when Terry was diagnosed with MS.
16:19So she could have left, but she didn't.
16:21And so I learned a lot about all those values from my moms.
16:24It's a wonderful lesson, but also I thought that particular area was important for the practicality of the debate.
16:34Because, Jackie, you talk about how there are about 1,200 rights that you get when you're married.
16:42And one of the things that they treated Jackie in the hospital with your mom as a stranger.
16:48Yeah, that's right.
16:49Terry, as part of her MS symptoms, has this really debilitating face pain called Zingers.
16:53And there was this episode in 2006 that got so bad they had to go to the ER.
16:57And so Terry, that night, had to suffer through the single most painful night of her life.
17:01And keep in mind, this is coming from a woman who gave birth to my little sister Zebi via emergency
17:06C-section with no anesthesia.
17:08Right.
17:09Oh, Zebi.
17:10You've got to read about Zebi.
17:12She's awesome.
17:13And she's out here, too.
17:13She's here, too.
17:14But that's serious business.
17:16It's a good book.
17:18Are they all here?
17:19Where are they?
17:19Up there?
17:20Oh, hey, guys.
17:21Yeah, okay.
17:21Oh.
17:25The best part of the whole thing is like, oh, you're with the author?
17:27Get in the back!
17:31But, yeah, so, and the reason that was the case was because the doctor who was running the
17:36ER at that point was not legally required to listen to Jackie because Jackie wasn't Terry's
17:40wife.
17:41She was just the woman who brought the patient in.
17:43So just one example of the realities of the struggles that LGBT people in this country
17:51face every day.
17:51It strikes me as what's wonderful about the book is it is written from the perspective
17:56of a positive perspective on it, but it's perfect judo.
18:01Because if the idea is, oh, well, children need a mom and a dad or they won't be raised
18:07to have the values that this country stands for.
18:10Well, these are the values this country stands for.
18:12I don't think I've met anybody that represents them better than you.
18:15And it speaks amazingly for your family.
18:20Thank you very much.
18:21It's a big honor.
18:22Bah!
18:22Bah!
18:27So what's nice about this, I think a lot of people who agree with you will read this.
18:33I really hope a lot of people who are not sure will read this.
18:36But aren't you also working on another project about that?
18:39Yeah, that's right.
18:39The project's called Out to Dinner.
18:41And if your audience would like to find out, it's outtodinner.org.
18:44And essentially what we're doing is inviting straight ally couples to host these dinners,
18:48to which they invite both an LGBT couple and then some folks who are still kind of on the
18:53fence about the whole gay thing.
18:55And then just come together and, you know, break some bread and share a bottle of wine.
19:02Or four.
19:03Or, you know, whatever.
19:05That's when it gets good.
19:06Yeah, exactly.
19:07And then just get to know each other and have a great time.
19:10And I think that that's really what's going to move this country forward on this issue
19:13is having these face-to-face conversations and getting to know each other in a way that
19:17transcends these godless colonizing sodomites taking over our towns and cities.
19:23So you are saying in front of all of us, your family are not godless sodomites taking over
19:28our cities.
19:29That is the claim you are making here today, sir.
19:33This is on TV, right?
19:34It's going to be on TV.
19:37Isn't it always about that?
19:38You know, it's oftentimes you couch it and, well, it's just bigotry.
19:41I think sometimes it's just not having experience with something.
19:46And then once you do it, you go, oh, humanity.
19:49Yeah.
19:49The same on all sides.
19:51I get it.
19:52You're just trying to live your life and raise your kids and do the right thing.
19:55I think there are a lot of differences that people can sometimes get hung up on.
19:59Like the fact that, you know, I've learned how to use a razor from my best friend's dad,
20:02or that I'm really good at putting the seat down, or whatever.
20:07And what they don't understand...
20:13All right, kid.
20:14Let me tell you something.
20:17This is a wonderful book.
20:19You will love it.
20:21You will weep at times.
20:22It is an incredible demonstration of the power of real values, and you, sir, the embodiment
20:28of it.
20:29But I believe, and I say this to you with all due respect, you are peaking too soon.
20:33I hope not.
20:35I hope not.
20:35I hope not.
20:35I expect big things from you.
20:36You're a good man.
20:37My Two Moms.
20:38It's on the bookshelves now.
20:39Please buy it.
20:39Zach Walls.
20:47By the way, quick shout out to young Jimmy Kimmel.
20:51Did an unbelievable job at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
20:54Hilarious.
20:54Ain't an easy gig, and he crushed it.
20:56Here it is.
20:56Your moment is on.
20:57I also want to thank Mr. Mills, my 10th grade high school history teacher, who said I'd never
21:02amount to anything if I kept screwing around in class.
21:05Mr. Mills, I'm about to high-five the President of the United States.
21:09Is it okay?
21:14Eat it, Mills.
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