00:05The documents we showed you about this incredible burial of the boss of the Magliana gang in a basilica in
00:13the center of Rome, the Basilica of Santa Polinare, have caused a sensation.
00:17Many of you have called us, written to us, and sent us emails. Many Catholics are shocked and astonished.
00:25who ask us other questions. We naturally thank all of you for your comments.
00:32Not only the former President of the Republic intervened, but also the Director of Radio Radicale Bordini and the newspapers
00:37like the Quotidiano and the Corriere della Sera.
00:39There is also a question now in Parliament from Lumia, who is part of the Anti-Mafia Commission.
00:46Together with you, we would also like to see a cartoon that appeared in the Ferrara daily newspaper Il Foglio.
00:53It is Vincino's cartoon that somehow, with satire and irony, sums up this astonishing event.
01:05The protagonists of this, as you will remember, we told you about it, are a monsignor, Monsignor Vergari who wanted this
01:13burial and also Cardinal Ugo Poletti who gave the go-ahead.
01:20As you know, Ugo Poletti has been dead for years, whereas Piero Vergari is still active and is an educator of future generations.
01:28priests.
01:29Our correspondent Raffaella Notariale went to look for him. Valeria Durante collaborated with her.
01:46Now it is certain, Enrico De Pedis, known as Renatino, the ferocious leader of the Magliana gang, is still buried here, in the
01:54Basilica of Santa Polinare, where only Church Fathers and Christian martyrs could be welcomed.
02:00We try to approach the rector. Monsignor Carlo Dominguez is very kind, but asks us not to turn the interview into an interview.
02:08his kind willingness to speak to us.
02:12On the other hand, he knows very little about this incredible story. The storm of controversy that is raining down on him...
02:19It hit him suddenly. He's only been here a short time and has no responsibility.
02:25We approach the crypt. The place is dark. Enrico De Pedis's tomb is hidden down there, beyond the gate.
02:32which cannot be seen from here.
02:34And besides, they tell us that it was walled up so that no one could get close. This, however, is the sarcophagus as it was
02:42It appears in the documents we have managed to discover.
02:45They were Monsignor Piero Vergari, rector of the Basilica in 1990, and Cardinal Ugo Poletti, vicar of Rome and substitute
02:53of the Pope,
02:54to make the astonishing decision to have the boss disinterred from the Verano cemetery and brought here.
03:00The DIA, which at that time was mainly dealing with the Pecorelli murder, alongside the investigation into this De Pedis murder,
03:08if they succeed, we will find this church and then all those documents that you also showed.
03:13It is undoubtedly a very, very, very, very singular thing.
03:18The words the prelate used to describe the criminal were also singular.
03:22The rector called him a great benefactor of the poor.
03:26He said he was someone who made offers, he spoke of 100 thousand lire in those times, in short, no more than
03:30so much.
03:34Enrico De Pedis was the biggest member of this Magliani gang.
03:39With him and with those around him who had risen up and made a bit of the crime industry.
03:47To underline the importance of the character, it must be remembered that it took a small army to eliminate him.
03:54He gets killed, and he gets killed not, shall we say, occasionally.
03:59It's a murder involving a real fireteam.
04:03There are at least 6-7 people.
04:05Who is actually involved, the killers on the motorbike, the other two or three with the cars at the beginning and at the end
04:12of the street to intervene, all armed.
04:16On the other hand, there was a race in the slaughterhouse.
04:19De Pedis had already eliminated some enemies and was preparing other eliminations, when, instead, they reached him.
04:27It was the beginning of 1990.
04:30A new year that had left behind a decade overloaded with exhausting tensions, guilty cover-ups, ambiguous connivances, bloody
04:38massacres and terrible murders never truly solved.
04:41Strange years. As strange as the behavior of those who were supposed to investigate the commando that eliminated Renatino.
04:48The fire group, at least the main characters, have someone following them who sees them, follows them to Italy, to Austria
04:58and in Holland.
04:59Which will then form the subject of a note from the High Commissioner in May 1990, which is sent to the police headquarters.
05:07of Rome.
05:07But I don't know what happened to him.
05:10We find it again in 92-93 and it will be fundamental for the countryside, because they know, there is someone who reports to the
05:16'High Commissioner and he knows everything.
05:18It's not clear what they did to us for the first two years, three years.
05:22And did he speak with Cardinal Poletti at the time?
05:24Ninth.
05:24I never spoke.
05:26Cardinal Poletti, in fact, put up a wall and the investigation into the burial name was blocked.
05:33In 1997 the Pope's vicar died.
05:37And the only person who could give us some answers about this disconcerting burial is Monsignor Piero Vergari.
05:44We start looking for it.
05:47We discover that he lives in an ancient village perched above a valley in the province of Rieti.
05:53Here he runs a shelter for young seminarians.
05:56But Monsignor Vergari left immediately after our broadcast, after quickly greeting the residents.
06:04He's here with the kids who are studying.
06:08And now it's not here in Torani.
06:09He's not here now, he's in America.
06:11Now he comes back and he's so good, he's such a good guy.
06:16It's hard to find.
06:18These kids go to study in Rome with him, they leave early in the morning.
06:22Everyday?
06:23Every day and then they come back in the afternoon.
06:27This is the house of the Queen of the Apostolos, where for years, according to what the residents told us,
06:34Monsignor Vergari hosts young seminarians coming mainly from India and Latin America.
06:40The apartment is empty and outside there is a pile of mail addressed to the prelate, who will return to Italy on October 2nd.
06:48Following our last episode, several viewers called us to tell us about Monsignor Vergari.
06:55One of them, who knew him and who prefers to remain anonymous, said that the prelate was
07:01and continues to be much talked about.
07:03I met him a couple of times. He was in charge of welcoming and accommodating aspiring seminarians.
07:16We have learned some strange things. Some of them were favored, others were marginalized and even subjected to serious
07:29moral blackmail.
07:30We've collected some of the outbursts of these kids who have experienced some very difficult times.
07:38Someone wanted to report these events, but we did not find anything else except at a certain point a distancing.
07:47I don't know if he volunteered for the Monsignor or was recalled from Rome.
07:54Despite rumours of his sudden departure for New York, our journey in search of the former rector of Santa
08:01Polinare continued towards the province of Perugia.
08:05We have been told that there is another residence of the Monsignor in this town.
08:09Don Piero rarely comes here because he lives in Rome. His sister lives in Rome. This is the house, let's say, of the
08:14holidays, of the summer.
08:17I can't tell you more than that.
08:19In this country, has Don Bergari never hosted young seminarians?
08:24But I knew that he was hosting them in the house, in his old father's house.
08:29Where is it located?
08:30It is here in front of the church of Santa Andrea.
08:36Nobody comes to open the door.
08:38This house also appears deserted.
08:43We approach the convent which stands right next to the building.
08:46And here we manage to speak with a nun.
08:50I'm looking for a gentleman market.
08:53It's the mystery for October 2nd.
08:55One of the slightly strange things about this school.
09:00I only know that there are people who slander him for immoral things.
09:06But in fact everyone says that these people probably have problems of their own and they blame him.
09:15The Vatican knows it.
09:17I believe the Vatican is not stupid.
09:18I think they also know where slander comes from and where it comes from.
09:23And so sometimes they don't even waste their time.
09:25I've met guys who made you suffer a lot anyway.
09:28Yes, but because they had only come to exploit the situation.
09:33They were absolutely not in the mood for credit.
09:36It's all real what they said about who saw it.
09:40The cardinals who were his superiors knew it.
09:43So he did it, he had to obey to be under the church, not other people in society.
09:49And he told me, yes, but I didn't do anything to suffer at all.
09:53He said my super-worlds and my worlds and my worlds and my worlds.
09:56Why did they go to all that trouble to expel this person from a sacred place?
10:00Sure, yes, but we haven't even used to ask because maybe they are things that they can't do.
10:07say.
10:08I either don't know why or not.
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