00:00JOHN?
00:00MOMENTS AGO PRESIDENT TRUMP SLAMMING
00:02IRAN OVER THE STRAIGHT OF HORMUZ
00:04CALLING THE REGIME'S TACTICS QUOTE
00:06A SHORT-TERM EXTORTION OF THE
00:07WORLD BY USING INTERNATIONAL
00:09WATERWAYS.
00:09LET'S BRING IN JOHN YUE, FORMER
00:11DEPUTY ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL
00:12AND LAW PROFESSOR AT UC BERKELEY
00:14WHO.
00:14THIS IS REALLY SORT TERM LIKE
00:18THINGS.
00:19IRAN CANNOT HOLD THE INTERNATIONAL
00:21ROOT OF WATER.
00:23IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ELSE
00:25THAT HE'S DONE TEACHES CLASSES ON
00:27IRAN, THE LAW OF THE SEA.
00:28JOHN, WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
00:30IT'S PERFECT TO HAVE YOU ON.
00:31IS THERE ANYTHING YOU DON'T DO?
00:33THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.
00:35BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION.
00:36IT'S AN INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY.
00:38IT'S GOVERED BY INTERNATIONAL
00:39LAW.
00:40AS SUCH, ANY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT
00:42OF FREE PASSAGE.
00:43YET IRAN IS TRYING TO CONTROL
00:45THIS.
00:45WHERE DOES LAW COME DOWN ON THIS?
00:48YES, WE ARE GOING TO SEE THE
00:51LAW ON THIS INTERNATIONAL
00:52WATERWAY.
00:53HOW COUNTRY HAS ACCESS TO THIS
00:56THING?
00:57NEVER.
00:57JOHN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DID TO
00:59GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE DEAN, BUT
01:00YES, I WAS MADE TO TEACH LAW OF
01:02THE SEA SEVERAL TIMES AT BERKELEY.
01:05THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, JOHN,
01:06IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
01:08WHEN YOU HAVE TWO BODIES OF
01:09WATER, WHICH ARE INTERNATIONAL
01:11WATERS IN THE PERSIAN GULF, AND
01:13THEN YOU HAVE A STRAIGHT THAT
01:14CONNECTS THEM, WHICH IS A STRAIGHT
01:15OF HARMUZ.
01:17INTERNATIONAL LAW HAS LONG SAID THAT
01:19THE TWO NATIONS WHOSE TERRITORY
01:21ALONG THE STRAIGHT HAVE NO RIGHT
01:23TO BLOCK PASSAGE.
01:24RIGHT NOW, IN THIS SITUATION, WE
01:26HAVE TWO NATIONS.
01:27THIS IS IRAN, YOU SEE, ON THE
01:29UPSIDE.
01:30AND THIS IS OMAN.
01:31YES, OMAN.
01:32SAUDI HAS THE BORDER WITH OMAN,
01:34BUT NOT EXACTLY IN THE STRAIGHT
01:37OF IT.
01:38BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU CAN'T GO
01:40BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE TWO
01:42BODIES OF WATERS.
01:43AS IF IN THE UNITED STATES WE
01:44HAD TWO LAKES AND A RIVER.
01:46TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK AND FORTH,
01:47YOU HAVE TO HAVE FREE PASSAGE IN
01:49THAT RIVER.
01:50THAT HAS BEEN THE LAW FOR A LONG
01:52TIME.
01:53YES, INTERNATIONAL LAW.
01:53THE UNITED STATES HAS LONG
01:55FOUGHT FOR THAT RIGHT.
01:56AND THE UNITED STATES NAVY
01:58DELIBERATELY GOES THROUGH STRAIGHTS
02:00ALL AROUND THE WORLD ON A REGULAR
02:02BASIS.
02:02DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENT SAYS,
02:05ACCUSES IRAN OF SORT OF
02:07CONTROL THE STATE OF HORMOUZ.
02:09TO MAKE CLEAR THE RIGHT OF FREE
02:12NAVIGATION AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN
02:14THE LAW WITH THE STRAIGHT OF
02:15HORMOUZ.
02:16YEAH, I WAS TAKING A LOOK AT SOME
02:18OF THE CHOKE POINTS AROUND THE
02:19WORLD AND FOR IRAN TO SAY, LOOK,
02:20WE HAVE CONTROLLED THE STRAIGHT
02:21OF HORMOUZ, WE'RE GOING TO
02:22CHARGE A TOLL OR WE'RE GOING TO
02:24CONTROL IT WOULD BE A KIN TO
02:25SPAIN OR MOROCCO SAYING THAT WE
02:28CONTROL IT.
02:29WE HAVE AND DATA, THE BACK AND
02:31SOUL DATA AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
02:34HUNDRED BILLION, HUNDRED
02:36BILLION DOLLAR OF ONE YEAR PLUS
02:39PROFIT FOR IRAN.
02:41IRAN ONLY GOT ACCESS OF THE
02:43RATE OF HORMOUZ.
02:44HUNDRED BILLION IS NOT A
02:45STRAIGHT OF GIBRALTAR AND
02:47YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO
02:48GO THROUGH IT.
02:49YEMEN OR GIBOUTI CHARGING FOR
02:50TRANSIT THROUGH THE BABAL
02:52MANDAB STRAIGHT THAT WE HAVE
02:53SEEN YEMEN CAUSE PROBLEMS
02:54THERE.
02:54OR SINGAPOR CHARGING FOR TRANSIT
02:56THROUGH THE SINGAPOR STRAIGHT.
02:57IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.
03:00AND WE COULD GET EVEN TO
03:01TOUGHER CASES.
03:02IF THE UNITED STATES WERE
03:03ALLOW IRAN TO GET AWAY WITH
03:05THIS, THEN WHAT ABOUT THE
03:06STRAIGHT BETWEEN TAIWAN AND
03:08CHINA?
03:09CHINA COULD JUST CLOSE THAT
03:10OFF.
03:10SAY, OH, TAIWAN'S OUR
03:12TERRITORY.
03:12WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE
03:13GO THROUGH THERE.
03:14OR WE COULD TRY CLOSE OFF
03:17WHAT'S CALLED THE STRAIGHT OF
03:18MALACCA, THROUGH WHICH ALL THE
03:19OIL THAT GETS TO CHINA,
03:21JAPAN, KOREA, ALL THOSE
03:23NATIONS ALL HAVE.
03:24EVERY OTHER NATION IS TAKING A
03:27LESSON FROM THIS.
03:28EVERY OTHER NATION WHO HAS A
03:30STRAIGHT IN BETWEEN THEM CAN
03:32JUST BLOCK IT WITH THE HELP OF
03:34THE OTHER PARTNERS CAN JUST
03:36BLOCK IT.
03:37YES.
03:37HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT STRAIGHT
03:39AND WE COULD, ANYBODY COULD
03:41CLOSE THAT OFF, I SUPPOSE
03:42IF YOU BELIEVE, IRAN.
03:45ANYBODY.
03:45IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT.
03:47EVER SINCE, FOR 500 YEARS,
03:49THE RIGHT OF FREEDOM OF
03:50NAVIGATION OF THE SEAS HAS
03:52BEEN ONE OF THE CORE
03:53PRINCIPLES OF INTERNATIONAL
03:54LAW.
03:55THE UNITED STATES HAS GONE TO
03:56WAR TO DEFEND THAT RIGHT.
03:58WE WENT TO THE WAR OF 18...
04:00YES.
04:00THIS IS EXACT REASON.
04:02WE WENT TO WAR, TO DEFEND
04:04THE INTERNATIONAL LAW, THE
04:06STRAIGHT OF HORMOUS, THE
04:07STRAIGHT.
04:08WE WANT THAT TO BE OPEN FOR
04:11EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD.
04:1212 WITH THE BRITISH, TO
04:14DEFEND THE RIGHT OF THE
04:15UNITED STATES, TO TRADE WITH
04:16WHOEVER WE WANTED TO, UNDER
04:18THE IDEA OF FREEDOM OF THE
04:19SEAS.
04:20AND THAT PRINCIPLE IS AT
04:21STAKE HERE WITH THE
04:22STRAIGHT OF HORMOUS, TOO.
04:23YEAH.
04:24I WANT TO ASK THE CONTROL
04:25ROOM TO KEEP UP THE MAP OF
04:27ACTIVITY THROUGH THE STRAIGHT
04:28OF HORMOUS, BECAUSE...
04:29OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.
04:30YOU CAN NOTICE THAT THROUGH
04:32THE LOWER PART OF THE
04:32STRAIGHT OF HORMOUS, THERE'S
04:33HARDLY ANY TRAFFIC, AND ANY
04:35BOATS, ANY SHIPS THAT ARE
04:36GOING THROUGH, ARE GOING UP
04:37TO THE NORTH AROUND THAT
04:38LITTLE ISLAND THERE, CALLED
04:40LARAK ISLAND.
04:41THIS IS THE LARAK ISLAND.
04:42YOU SEE, THIS IS...
04:44AND THAT'S BECAUSE IRAN HAS
04:45SAID, LOOK, WE CAN'T SAY
04:46THAT THERE AREN'T MINES IN
04:48THE MAIN PART OF THE
04:49STRAIGHT, SO IF YOU COME UP
04:50AROUND LARAK ISLAND, WE
04:52CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT'S
04:54GOING TO BE SAFE
04:54PACKAGE, BUT THEN AT THE
04:55SAME...
04:55THERE IS MINE.
04:56IN THIS AREA, THERE IS
04:57MINE.
04:58SIFS CAN GO FROM HERE, SIFS
05:00CAN ROW FROM HERE.
05:01BUT IN THIS AREA, THIS
05:03AREA, THERE IS MINE.
05:05IN THE SAME TIME THEY
05:06DING THESE OIL TANKERS
05:07OR CARGO SHIPS FOR
05:08TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN
05:09TOLL.
05:10I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE THE
05:11MAFIA IS RUNNING THE
05:12PLACE.
05:13ONE SIFE HAS TO PAY
05:14TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN
05:16TOLLS.
05:17THAT'S HOW THE CALCULATION
05:18UP AROUND HUNDRED PLUS
05:20BILLION DOLLARS IN A YEAR.
05:23HUNDRED PLUS BILLION.
05:23THAT IS ALSO UTTERLY ILLEGAL
05:26UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW TO
05:27ESSENTIALLY SAY, WELL,
05:28WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS
05:29BLOCK FREE PASSAGE IN
05:32INTERNATIONAL WATERS IN
05:33THIS STRAIGHT EVERYONE HAS
05:34A RIGHT TO USE, SO THAT
05:36YOU HAVE TO TAKE A DETOUR
05:37THAT BRINGS US BY OUR COAST,
05:38AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO
05:39CHARGE YOU A TOLL.
05:41THE RIGHT OF NATIONS TO BE
05:42ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT
05:43STRAIGHT UNIMPEDED IS
05:45LONG ACKNOWLEDGED.
05:46THIS IS LIKE B.S.
05:49WHAT IS IRAN DOING RIGHT
05:50NOW?
05:52NO, NO ACCOUNTABILITY, NO
05:55ACCESSIBILITY, NO
05:56AUTHORIZATION TO BLOCK THIS
05:57STRAIGHT BECAUSE IT IS
05:59INTERNATIONAL WATER.
06:00WATER BODY IS NOBODY'S.
06:02NOBODY'S.
06:03WATER BODY IS ALWAYS
06:04INTERNATIONAL.
06:05ANYBODY CAN USE IT, OK?
06:06THIS IS WHAT WE CALL
06:08CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL
06:09THAT ALL NATIONS AGREE ON.
06:11IRAN HAS AGREED ON IT.
06:12WHAT IF THE UNITED STATES
06:13DID THE SAME THING TO IRAN?
06:14THEY WOULD BE JUMPING UP
06:15AND DOWN, SCREAMING THAT
06:16WE WERE VIOLATING THEIR
06:17RIGHT OF FREE NAVIGATION.
06:19THIS IS.
06:20THIS IS.
06:20WE'LL SEE WHICH WAY THIS
06:21GOES.
06:22IT'S GOING TO BE A VERY
06:24COMPLICATED NAVIGATION IN
06:26THIS NEGOTIATION FOR J.D.
06:27VANCE.
06:28IT IS WHAT IT IS, GUYS.
06:29IT IS WHAT IT IS.
06:30J.D.
06:30VANCE IS ON THE PAKISTAN
06:32TALKING WITH THE SUPREME
06:33LEADERS OF IRAN, NOT
06:35EXACTLY THE SON OF
06:36ALATUINIA KHAMINI, BUT
06:37OTHER, I GUESS.
06:39THEY NEVER DECLARED IT.
06:41TELL IRAN NO, YOU'RE NOT
06:42GOING TO GET THE
06:42OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL
06:44THE STRAIGHT OF
06:44HARMUZ.
06:45PROFESSOR OF EVERYTHING,
06:46THANK YOU FOR JOINING
06:46THE STRAIGHT OF IRAN.
06:48THAT'S A TITLE I NEVER
06:49WANTED, BUT THANK YOU,
06:50JOHN.
06:52THIS IS WHAT IT IS, GUYS.
06:53SUBSCRIBE AND LET ME KNOW
06:54MORE.
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