00:00The first thing I'm going to ask you, Bird, is you cover the NFL.
00:03Yep.
00:03Has a coach ever driven four hours round trip to hang out with you for the day?
00:10I have.
00:11Not you drive.
00:13Has a coach driven to you?
00:14No, I mean, like, I've hung out with.
00:16No, no.
00:16The question is specific.
00:18No, no.
00:19I mean, like, I'd say, like, but I have.
00:21I've hung out with coaches, GMs on vacation before.
00:25Like, I've.
00:26That's different.
00:27You both happen to be in the same place.
00:29I know what you're talking about.
00:31You guys both happen to be there at the same time.
00:33This is much different.
00:34Or you drove to the coach's place and you hung out with them.
00:40I'm asking it specific.
00:42You're changing it.
00:43Has a coach or executive ever driven two hours each way to hang out with you for the day?
00:53No.
00:54Yeah.
00:54I don't think so.
00:54Of course not, Bird.
00:55The answer to that question is no.
00:58I'm surprised you had to think that.
00:59No, no.
00:59He's thinking about it because he wants to sound cool.
01:01Because I have.
01:02No, I have met up with people.
01:04But you went there.
01:05They didn't come to you.
01:06Generally, you go there.
01:07Well, no.
01:08He wants to sound cool.
01:09No, I'm trying to think of like.
01:11What do you think?
01:11You're going to get sued?
01:12No, it's like 22 years of doing this.
01:15Well, I can tell you this is that no one's ever driven to see me.
01:19And I've been doing this for almost 30 years.
01:21OK, but your job's way different than mine.
01:23Fair enough.
01:23But I mean, there are relationships.
01:25But nonetheless, you know, what is what is the latest on this from from you and insider?
01:31Well, I like.
01:33First of all, like, I feel like I should say that I've known both of them for like quite
01:38some time.
01:38I covered Mike as a player.
01:40So I've known him for over 20 years.
01:42Like I.
01:42He went to Ohio State.
01:43I.
01:44But I've known I've known Diana for a long time.
01:46I really like Dan.
01:47I honestly like I feel like there's a there's a relatively small circle of us that really
01:55have an idea of what's happening in the league.
01:57And she's definitely in that circle of people that I I would respect as somebody who has
02:01like is on the upper tier of national reporters.
02:07I like honestly, like I don't know what I have to add out other than what's already out
02:13there.
02:13I mean, like, I'm not going to I don't want to sit here and be all defensive and everything
02:20else because, you know, like because I know both people, you know what I mean?
02:23Like, I don't want this to turn into that where like if this was somebody in another sport,
02:28I would be all over it, making fun of it and everything else with you guys and laughing.
02:32You know what I mean?
02:35But the reality is like I I know what you know, I know most of what you guys know at
02:42this
02:42point, which is that like, yeah, like I mean, Diana's had a relationship with Vrabel, a
02:48professional relationship with Vrabel, you know, and like we all have these sorts of
02:54relationships and I don't think you're doing the job right if you don't have in a position
02:59like mine a relationship with every head coach, you know.
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