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00:00Who was beating your child?

00:03She told them the other's son had hit him.

00:06I never saw my son hit him.

00:08You don't know who hit him?

00:09No.

00:10I would be on the warpath to find out who did.

00:15And I'm not getting that from you.

00:17Do you understand?

00:19This is Judy Justice.

00:40Previously, on Judy Justice.

00:43He asked me, do I whip my kids, basically, with the belt?

00:47He asked you that?

00:48Mm-hmm.

00:48Because clearly, these are linear marks on the child's back,

00:53which clearly suggest that he was hit with something.

00:57And he's not crazy enough to hit the child on the back

01:02and then take him to an emergency room.

01:05I want you to know, I don't believe that.

01:07When they did their investigation, what did they do?

01:11Um, be-

01:11Almost not an answer.

01:13After they did their investigation,

01:15was your child immediately returned to your custody?

01:19We went to court.

01:20So the answer is no.

01:23And now, the conclusion.

01:25Marcus Vega Tatum is suing the mother of his child,

01:30Javiana West, for damages after making false accusations

01:34to the police.

01:35Did anybody make a determination as to how this little boy

01:39got these belt marks on his back?

01:41No, she told them he was playing and his brother had hit him.

01:45His brother?

01:46Yeah, that's what she told me.

01:48I need the name of the child that you say caused these marks.

01:53I never said my son hit him.

01:55You never said to him?

01:56No, I never even talked to him.

01:57I don't talk to him.

01:58Just a second.

01:58Well, how did you explain to Child Protective Services the mark on his back?

02:03When they bring it to my attention,

02:04because I wasn't at home when my son left that day.

02:07And so pretty much my son was there with my son.

02:10And I asked my son, did he have any bruises on him when he left?

02:13He said, no, that wasn't on him.

02:14So you don't know.

02:15So your answer was you don't know who hit him?

02:18No.

02:19There are an awful lot of people who take care of you, boy.

02:22I'm just interested into how much you looked into who was beating your child.

02:29No one was beating my child.

02:31Well, that's not accurate, madam.

02:32Someone beat your child.

02:33If my son was getting beat, I'm pretty sure CPS would have came and picked my kids up.

02:38Listen, I don't know what CPS does in the area where you live.

02:42I worked with Child Protective Services for over 25 years.

02:45Nothing that they do surprises me.

02:47But I do know this.

02:49If I had a little four-year-old boy who had what apparently are belt marks,

02:57or some other linear marks from being hit, and if I didn't do it,

03:02I would be on the warpath to find out who did.

03:07And I'm not getting that from you.

03:09Okay.

03:10Now, the reason he was arrested for assault was because he slapped you,

03:16you said, on the face.

03:18Mm-hmm.

03:18Can I see any medical report that you had and photographs, please?

03:23I didn't get those.

03:24Do you have a police report with regard to that assault?

03:27You have it.

03:29Can I say something about that assault?

03:31Just a second.

03:34Would you find and circle here where the police noted your assault and your injury?

03:43Because you say you had a cut.

03:44So show me anywhere in that police report.

03:47Give her a pen, please.

03:52Am I able to pull it up on my phone?

03:54If you have them on your phone, I'll take a look at them on your phone.

03:59What's this one?

04:11This says you had a scratch under your right eye.

04:17Mm-hmm.

04:17And photos were collected.

04:19They said yes.

04:20Do you have the photograph?

04:22No.

04:22Okay.

04:23So there was an order of protection, a temporary order of protection issued, correct?

04:27In her favor?

04:28Yes.

04:29And why were you wearing an ankle monitor?

04:32Oh, because I got released from jail and when I was on the distance, I had to wear an ankle

04:38monitor.

04:38And I also had to stay like 100 yards from her.

04:40The ankle monitor had to do with this incident?

04:44This incident, yes.

04:45Okay.

04:46And I have the pictures of her face.

04:47Can I see them, please?

04:49I went in and got them.

04:50And all they showed was a scar with a scab that had already healed.

04:53Can I see?

04:55We never talked that day.

04:57Shh.

05:01Was this photograph of the scratch taken that day by the police?

05:04Yes, those are from the police.

05:06Because I had an attorney and they printed it and sent me the pictures.

05:09The picture was taken the same day by the police?

05:13No.

05:14These photographs taken, they were taken by the police.

05:17That's what it says in the report.

05:19What?

05:20I said those aren't the same pictures.

05:23Yeah, I don't think those are the same pictures.

05:25Well, just tell me which pictures were taken the same day.

05:27I don't think I had a hood on that day.

05:29You don't think you what?

05:31I said, I don't think I had a hoodie on that day.

05:34These weren't taken that day.

05:36When were they taken?

05:37And who took them?

05:38We only had one police report that had something to do with him slapping me,

05:44like within me, like trying to get my foot back.

05:45This isn't a slap mark, madam.

05:47That's not a slap mark.

05:49Do you have a scar on your nose?

05:50Like a little scratch right here, yeah.

05:52Can I see it up here, please?

05:54Step up.

05:58Right here?

05:59No.

06:01Okay, step back.

06:06So you don't remember who took these pictures?

06:08It was Stockton Police.

06:09At the police department, Donna?

06:11No.

06:12I'm saying it was the Stockton Police that I took it.

06:14Yes, when is my question.

06:16At the police department, on what date?

06:18Was the date the date of the alleged incident with your son when you were driving around

06:24the neighborhood?

06:25Is that when these were taken?

06:27Yes.

06:28Okay.

06:28Well, that's certainly not a fresh anything.

06:30It's a nothing.

06:31I don't know where it came from.

06:32It certainly didn't come from being hit on the face.

06:35Okay.

06:38Somebody who was watching this child hit him.

06:41Now, if it was you, you'd know how it was done.

06:44But if it wasn't you, then I wouldn't be angry with him.

06:47I would be angry at the person who hit my child.

06:50Duh.

06:51And later today.

06:53Did you do any work on the car, sir?

06:55Yes, ma'am.

06:56I'd like to see what you've done on the car.

07:00Oh, that's ridiculous.

07:03Doesn't say stupid here.

07:14Marcus Vega Tatum claims the mother of his child.

07:18Javiana West owes for filing false police reports.

07:22Javiana is countersuing, claiming Marcus assaulted her and filed a false CPS report.

07:29Ultimately, the criminal charges were dropped.

07:32Is that correct?

07:33It was dropped.

07:33It just took eight months later.

07:35I had to fight it in court.

07:36Do you have the dismissal?

07:37No, I don't have the dismissal.

07:39Do you know the reason?

07:40The reason it was dropped?

07:42There was no evidence and she wouldn't come to court either.

07:45Did you go to court?

07:46No.

07:46Were you told to come to court?

07:49No.

07:50Pretty much, they was just keeping me updated on what was going on at court.

07:54Did you speak to the district attorney?

07:56Yes.

07:56Did you advise the district attorney that you didn't want to proceed?

08:00No, I'd let them know.

08:02Could you stand up on your own?

08:06I let them know I would come to court if I needed to.

08:09Okay.

08:10Now, you have a counterclaim.

08:11Your counterclaim is for filing a false CPS charge.

08:15Now, the false CPS charge had to do with this, correct?

08:19No, he filed multiple, um...

08:21Well, after this, did he file any other CPS reports?

08:25Yes, he said that it was a CPS report about supposedly child neglect or something towards my son and my

08:32other kids.

08:33After this?

08:34Yes.

08:34Okay.

08:35Did you call CPS again?

08:36Because there was certainly a valid reason to call CPS.

08:40No, I was fighting a criminal case after that.

08:42You were fighting the assault case.

08:44The scratch.

08:46Yeah, at the time, when I went to jail, she applied for...

08:49When I was in jail, she applied for full custody and told them because I was in jail,

08:53and they gave it to her, so I didn't see him again until the next, probably like January the next

08:57year,

08:57because they had gave her full custody.

08:58Do you have any proof that he filed subsequent child protective proceedings or at least reports after this incident that

09:06occurred in November of 2023?

09:09No.

09:10Okay.

09:10Well, did you put your hands on her in any way, Mr. Tatum?

09:14No.

09:15Do you have any idea how she got this scratch on her face?

09:19I don't know.

09:19I believe she had just had a newborn.

09:21I think the baby has scratched her.

09:22I don't know.

09:23It's a heel scratch.

09:24It was already healed when the police came in.

09:26It was taken on the same day.

09:27It's a heel scratch.

09:27My kids was like five or six months at that time.

09:30What?

09:31He said I could have had a newborn.

09:32What I'm saying to you, madam.

09:33No, he said I had a newborn.

09:35What I'm saying to you is if it was taken the same day, this is a heel scratch.

09:43Duh.

09:44Don't answer me.

09:46Let's deal with the counterclaim first.

09:47I'm dismissing your counterclaim, Ms. West.

09:49He had an absolute right and an obligation to notify Child Protective Services when the welts on your child's back

09:56were visible.

09:57There's no question he didn't do it.

09:59So when it happened when the child was in your care and custody, it may not have been you.

10:04I don't know who beat this child with a something.

10:06If my son was getting hit, my son would have told me.

10:08Your child was hit with a something, a belt, a cord, a something.

10:14That's what leaves linear marks on a child's back.

10:18Concerning, since I don't believe that he would have done that and then taken the child to an emergency room.

10:26So somebody who was watching this child hit him.

10:30Now, if it was you, you'd know how it was done.

10:33But if it wasn't you, then I wouldn't be angry with him.

10:36I would be angry at the person who hit my child.

10:39Do you understand?

10:42Duh.

10:44Now, at the time, sir, of this incident on the 5th, it is my understanding, am I correct, that you

10:50had already been to court, left, the case was dismissed, and you believe that that order was still in place

10:56where you had custody?

10:57Yes.

10:58Well, that's what I figured.

10:59But that was evidently a mistake.

11:01It was a mistake that you either rectified later because now you're back to the alternate week custody arrangement.

11:07But that arrest was false, and I believe it was false.

11:12I'm awarding you $2,500 on the false arrest charge.

11:15I'm dismissing the defendant's claim for filing a false CPS report because the CPS report was perfectly valid.

11:24The child was, in fact, abused by somebody, and you should really find out who that was, unless it was

11:30you.

11:30We're done here.

11:31Thank you very much.

11:32This court is adjourned.

11:37The bruise wasn't on my son, like, no more.

11:40Like, it wasn't nothing on him.

11:42And, like, even when the CPS worker showed me the bruise on his phone, I told him I said that

11:46looked like a fresh bruise.

11:47How do I feel they got there?

11:48I'm not sure.

11:49I just know when I received him, he was taking a bath, and I seen it, and I just immediately

11:53took him to get his injuries checked out.

11:55And if it happened at my home or something, it wouldn't have still looked it fresh, especially because we do

11:59a week on, week off.

12:01Like, the bruise just looked it too fresh.

12:03I'm just trying to be your best dad.

12:04I'm trying to be...

12:05I just want to be a good parent to my son.

12:09Well, that one really brought you back to your family court days, huh?

12:12Well, you draw your experience from whatever you do.

12:16You know, common sense is supposed to creep into whatever decision that you make.

12:20What I'm trying to come to terms with is a 25-year-old woman who has six children, who, according

12:28to her, works in a warehouse, who receives no form of other assistance, who pays $2,700 a month in

12:37rent.

12:38And she drives a car because she drove to his house, so she has a car, which means you have

12:45the car, you have insurance, you have other stuff.

12:49And math was never my strong suit, but I can't figure that out.

12:54So there's something else going there.

12:57If I had more time, maybe.

13:00But that picture of that scratch was an old scratch of a nothing.

13:04And certainly not worth spending any time in jail for.

13:08But again, that takes a toll just because it was dismissed, which I think was the right outcome.

13:12Eight months and showing up once a month to a court date, as you're supposed to, when the person who

13:18filed it never even showed up for court.

13:20I mean, that's super frustrating.

13:21I think that it was right that he.

13:23She got what she wanted, which was she got the child back.

13:26And a temporary full custody order.

13:28Right.

13:28Correct.

13:30Case 4090, Lewis versus Zamora.

13:32All parties, please come forward.

13:34However, Francesca Lewis is suing her ex-boyfriend, Leo Zamora, for stolen property and parking tickets.

13:42Ms. Lewis, you and Mr. Zamora have a child together.

13:45Correct.

13:45And how old is that child?

13:47He's five.

13:48And other than having the child together, you don't live together.

13:51And according to you, you've sort of remained friendly, but he doesn't do much to assist in the support of

13:58your child.

13:59That's according to you.

14:00Correct.

14:00Understanding the background, he was in need of a car.

14:04You agreed to sell him a car.

14:05And this lawsuit is about the fact that you claim that he has not paid the balance of the car.

14:11The defendant says, well, the car had certain issues, but you disagree on the amount that you sold the car

14:16for.

14:17Is that right, sir?

14:18Yes.

14:21You thought you had her behind the eight ball.

14:23You had the car, and she was being a nice person.

14:25It's not that she's vindictive.

14:27You have a fiancé.

14:28Didn't you tell him he was doing the wrong thing?

14:30I don't seem like he was doing the wrong thing.

14:32Well, I guess you missed that.

14:34I guess I'm not going to be a good class in law school.

14:45Francesca Lewis claims her ex-boyfriend, Leo Zamora, owes for stolen property and parking tickets.

14:53Leo is countersuing Francesca for breaking their agreement.

14:57So in what month and year did you sell him a car, and what kind of car did you sell

15:02him?

15:02I sold him a 2009 Chevrolet Tahoe in July 2023.

15:07And how much did you sell it to him for?

15:09$5,000.

15:10When had you purchased it?

15:11April 1st, 2023.

15:14From whom?

15:15My ex-mother-in-law.

15:16How many miles did it have on it when you purchased it?

15:19It had approximately 160,000 miles.

15:22How much did you pay her for it?

15:24She gifted it to me.

15:25And you sold it to him a few months later?

15:27Correct.

15:28And how much did she sell you the car for?

15:31$2,000.

15:34Between $6,300 and $7,800, based on the 160,000 mileage.

15:41$6,300?

15:43Yeah.

15:43Is the low end?

15:44Yes.

15:44For a private party exchange.

15:47You have proof that she sold you that car for $2,000?

15:51Yes.

15:51I'd like to see it, because that would mean that she's really a buddy of yours,

15:56because the car's worth a lot more than $2,000.

16:11Four months is $2,000.

16:13So far, I've received $900.

16:16You told me to take the repairs into consideration.

16:19Nothing is owed on my end.

16:21You have proof that you sold him this car for $5,000?

16:24I do.

16:25I'd like to see it, because that's very unclear to me.

16:28How much money did you actually give her while she's looking for that, sir?

16:32I gave her $1,000, but our agreement was to pay $500 until we received the $2,000.

16:38Why would she make you a gift of a car, practically?

16:42Why?

16:43Well, she was trying to sell me some junk.

16:45The car had bullet holes all on the driver's side.

16:48Just a second, the car had bullet holes, those you saw, right?

16:51They're covered.

16:52What do you mean they're covered?

16:53They were, like, bundled over to, like, cover the holes.

16:56Well, but you could see them.

16:58Yeah, you could still see them.

16:59Okay, so you saw them.

17:00Yeah, but I was willing to paint the car, too.

17:11Yeah, she tells you, okay, I was thinking about $5,000, that's $5,000.

17:16And you said, oh, okay, for sure.

17:18We'll work with me, like, with payment plan or something.

17:23Or do you need it in full?

17:24How much could you afford a month?

17:26And you say, how many miles does it have?

17:28And she tells you, $160,000, you show me where the $5,000 went to $2,000, sir.

17:34Because we had made an agreement off of text messages and verbal?

17:38No, no, no.

17:39Show me.

17:39She said $5,000, you said okay.

17:41That's all I have.

17:42Five and okay.

17:43Your Honor, I have...

17:44And the blue book value of the car is at least $6,300.

17:47I have messages from him saying that he thought the agreement was $4,000, and I reminded him it was

17:52$5,000.

17:53May I see those, please?

18:04Oh, you're a cookie.

18:05Yeah.

18:07Yeah.

18:09Does he have the registration for the car now?

18:11The car is under my name still.

18:13Where is the car?

18:14In my driveway.

18:15Can I see the title?

18:16I currently don't have the title, but I have the registration, bill of sales, statement of facts.

18:21Did you do any work on the car, sir?

18:23Yes, ma'am.

18:24I'd like to see what you've done on the car.

18:37Oh, that's ridiculous.

18:43It doesn't say stupid here.

18:45Oh, I know.

18:46Okay.

18:47I have enough cars and seen enough receipts from mechanics to know that this is a baloney.

18:52Okay.

18:54Now, breach of an agreement.

18:55What agreement?

18:56We agreed upon a certain price.

18:58No, you agreed upon $5,000.

19:00That's what these text messages say.

19:02False police allegations.

19:03She reported the car is stolen.

19:05Good for her.

19:06You thought you had her behind the eight ball.

19:09You had the car, and she was being a nice person.

19:11It's not that she's vindictive.

19:13You have a fiancé.

19:14Didn't you tell him he was doing the wrong thing?

19:16I don't seem like he was doing the wrong thing.

19:18Well, I guess you missed that class in law school.

19:21Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $4,000.

19:24He also racked up parking tickets while in possession of the vehicle.

19:28May I see them?

19:29Yes, sir.

19:35These two are the same, and then these two are all for that one.

19:39Have you paid them?

19:40I have not.

19:42I've already received notice that they're going to garnish my taxes and my wages.

19:46Why didn't you pay these tickets?

19:48Because they were in her name.

19:49Well, Your Honor, I paid for a smog.

19:51I gave her the smog paper.

19:52She never went to the DMV to get the tags.

19:55I have messages also back and forth telling her to get the tags.

19:58She's been telling me that she bought the tags.

20:00Just a second.

20:00Why didn't you take the car to have it smogged?

20:03I did take it, actually.

20:04I had got the smog paper and gave it to her.

20:06And?

20:07She never went and got me the tags.

20:08Well, why don't you go and get your tags?

20:11I can't get the tags because the car's not under my name.

20:14If you pay for it, it'll be under your name.

20:16Yes, ma'am.

20:17I actually paid for the smog to get done.

20:21He's ridiculous.

20:22He's ridiculous.

20:23You are lucky to be finished with him.

20:28Finished.

20:30$4,370.

20:31Judgment for the plaintiff.

20:32You counterclaim whatever nonsense that is, it's dismissed.

20:35This court is adjourned.

20:39I'm glad she caught on to his lies and saw that he wasn't really being honest.

20:45She lied about a lot of stuff and it's going to go her way.

20:48That's ridiculous.

20:49Like, I mean, I gave him that truck because he needed help.

20:53About the agreement upon the vehicle and...

20:56Out of the kindness of my heart, I learned my lesson and I hope he learned his too.

21:00It's over now.

21:00Hopefully.

21:01I'm hoping.

21:03That's so easy when you have text messages with an offer and acceptance.

21:10I think about $5,000, which was a perfectly fair price because it's worth more according to Kelly Blue Book.

21:17Is it $63?

21:18$6,300, yeah.

21:20It was the low end.

21:20And I didn't see any bullet holes in the car, by the way.

21:23Slick.

21:24Yeah.

21:24And she was a nice woman.

21:26She said they didn't have a car and so she was perfectly happy with him having a fiancée.

21:31Mm-hmm.

21:32Right.

21:32Didn't seem bitter.

21:33Didn't seem bitter.

21:34Just seemed like he was trying to get something for nothing.

21:36Right.

21:39Have you been cheated?

21:40Go to JudyJustice.tv.

21:42Go J ampers.

21:48Go ahead.

21:53Go.

22:00Go.

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