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00:00Hello and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for joining us.
00:05I have just discovered that a dog called Rupert is scared of his local butchers.
00:10Apparently not uncommon. Message me if you would like more details.
00:14Anyway, we have a very lovely audience and some brilliant guests are joining us on the sofa.
00:19He's extremely funny. He's here to talk about his latest stand-up tour.
00:23It's Russell Howard!
00:32She is the star of Smash It, The Morning Show and Loki.
00:37She has a brand new film, Fuse. It's Goo Goo and Battle Rock!
00:48She is an actor, producer and singer who is behind everything from Sleepless in Seattle to Mamma Mia.
00:57She has a new album out. It's Rita Wilson!
01:07And he is the award-winning actor best known for X-Men, Filth and Atonement.
01:13He's just directed his very first film. It's the brilliant James McAvoy!
01:18CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
01:26Thank you all for coming.
01:30Um, Rita, thank you for coming because you've come from very far.
01:34But you love London. You used to live here.
01:36I do love London. Yes, I went to drama school here at Lambda.
01:39Very long time ago. But it was super fun.
01:42And it was, it was, you know, like you're living in England, you're in London.
01:47I saw so much theatre. It was absolutely fantastic. Yeah.
01:51So when you come back, you're like, I remember this little shop or I want to have this soup from
01:56here.
01:56Oh, no, no. You have to understand, like I was on a student's budget.
01:59And so, in America, we have this thing called the Freshman 10,
02:04which is when you go off to college, you immediately gain ten pounds.
02:07And I definitely had that because my diet was like McDiddy's.
02:11McDiddy's? Did I say McDiddy's?
02:13I like McDiddy's.
02:14Guys, we're going to McDiddy's.
02:16McDiddy's?
02:16But that was McDiddy's.
02:17We all did that in freshman year.
02:19McDonald's.
02:22Yeah, we all did that.
02:24I'll have the double ditty.
02:25I'll have the double ditty and an STD test.
02:28But McDiddy's was also McDonald's because it was like French fries or McDiddy's.
02:33That was my diet and my body loved it.
02:35Yeah. You were like, thank you, I will come to London more often.
02:38Yes, exactly. Give me more, please.
02:39Russell, for you, Bristol or London?
02:43Well, I'm from Bristol, so I, you know, I prefer Bristol.
02:47But it's... No, I like London. I'm a fan.
02:49I got mugged here once and it was the most...
02:53..but it was the most middle-class mugging.
02:55So, a friend of mine had, uh, she'd just given birth,
02:58so I got her some cupcakes.
02:59So I'm carrying these cupcakes up this hill
03:01and this kid's probably about 15,
03:03really pasty-looking kid just stands in front of me and goes,
03:06Oi!
03:08You'd better give me one of them cupcakes.
03:11And I suddenly kind of went,
03:13you can't have them, my friend, she'd just given birth.
03:16And this kid suddenly went, I'm sorry, tell her congratulations.
03:20LAUGHTER
03:21And he was like, this was such a beautiful moment of, like...
03:25..you kind of go from fear to, like, yeah.
03:29And I like it.
03:30Um, so, then, I'd argue that Glasgow's the best town.
03:32I've had the best night of my life, I have.
03:34I mean, you could also get in an argument about that in Glasgow.
03:37Yeah. Yeah.
03:39That sounds like I'm slagging off my hometown.
03:40It is, it's the best.
03:41It is. It is.
03:42It's fantastic.
03:43A man from Latvia carried me above his head in Glasgow.
03:46LAUGHTER
03:47No, it's just the most fun.
03:48Everybody there wants you to have a good time.
03:50They're incredibly proud of Glasgow.
03:53Yeah, they should be.
03:53If Irish people hadn't already invented the crack,
03:56we would be inventing the crack.
03:58There you go.
03:59Gugu, you have been to Scotland.
04:01I, yeah, I went to Glasgow, actually, the first time,
04:05um, when I was 11.
04:06I was on, I don't know if anybody remembers the, um,
04:11children's game show Fun House.
04:12Oh, yes.
04:13Anybody remember that show?
04:15Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:15What was Fun House?
04:16It was a game show.
04:17Like, there was the red team and the yellow team.
04:20It was presented by Pat Sharp.
04:23Twins, kind of cheerleader.
04:25Melanie and Martina.
04:26Oh, my God, yes.
04:27LAUGHTER
04:29Did you win?
04:30What could you win?
04:31Like, the twins?
04:32We won.
04:33We won.
04:34I remember this really, like, dates it now.
04:37I won, like, an Amstrad PC.
04:39Yes.
04:40Um, I won, like, dry slope skiing lessons.
04:44Ha!
04:45Which...
04:46What is that?
04:46This is so depressing.
04:48LAUGHTER
04:50OK, now.
04:51Gugu, is it true that you start every day with a power pose?
04:55Oh.
04:55I mean, not every day, but I do love a power pose.
04:58What does that mean?
04:59Tell me anything.
05:00Um, I...
05:01Oh, my gosh, I watched this TED talk a few years ago about the idea of,
05:05you know, how to change your mood by changing your posture
05:08or changing your body and, you know, that if you can kind of...
05:10If you slump your shoulders and, you know...
05:12I love slumping.
05:13Well, you can also just feel a bit more down or a bit more kind of depressed.
05:18LAUGHTER
05:18Do it.
05:19But if you, like, really want...
05:21It's so cool, though, slumping.
05:21Right, it's cool, it's cool.
05:23But if you want, like, a quick way to kind of just trick your, you know,
05:27your body into feeling...
05:28and your mind into feeling more uplifted, you can do a power pose.
05:30I prefer the sort of...
05:32It's a bit hard to do in this dress.
05:34But, like, the arms out, kind of, like, you know...
05:36Yes.
05:36Open to the universe.
05:38Can everyone do it?
05:38Everyone can do it.
05:39If you're able, join us in power pose.
05:41Yeah, technically, you should stand up.
05:42OK.
05:43And just kind of, like...
05:45Arms up in a V.
05:46Yes!
05:47Chest to the sky.
05:48And just, like, just breathe for a second.
05:51I feel like I'm in a cult.
05:52Yeah.
05:52I feel like...
05:53Don't you feel, like, a little bit more confident?
05:55A little bit more, like, joyful?
05:57I do.
05:58Yeah!
05:59OK, it worked.
06:01It worked.
06:01It worked.
06:02It worked.
06:02That was not Oprah.
06:04It was.
06:06Yeah.
06:09So, thank you very much for the power pose.
06:11Uh, James McAvoy, you've just directed your first film.
06:13Did, yes.
06:17Why this film?
06:18Why this...
06:19Oh, man, there's many, many reasons why this film.
06:21I knew I wanted to make films about people from lower-income backgrounds,
06:26council estates...
06:27Yep.
06:27..or schemes, as we call them in Scotland,
06:29which is why we call it California Scheming.
06:31And there was just nothing coming in that was getting me excited that was going to be funny and entertaining,
06:37as well as about the realities of coming from that kind of community.
06:40And then California Scheming came along and it just did everything that I needed to do.
06:45It had so much heart, it had so much comedy, it had so much pathos.
06:50But then it was also kind of about one of the reasons that I think we maybe don't have more
06:55Scottish films more regularly.
06:56And that, to me, was just like a perfect package.
06:59Unbelievably, it is a true story.
07:02Tell everybody what it's about.
07:03Two young guys from Dundee, extremely talented rappers, ninja rappers,
07:08and they answered a big casting call for a big record label down in London,
07:13back in the early noughties, like 2002, 2003.
07:16And they got about halfway through one of their excellent tracks
07:20and they got stopped and laughed at.
07:22And they were labelled as the rapping proclaimers.
07:26And so they took, yeah, right, so they were devastated, but they took the note
07:31and they went, we've got it.
07:32Sacrifice on integrity, sacrifice on authenticity,
07:35sacrifice everything that is important to the culture of hip-hop,
07:38which is the streets that made you, and they came back as Americans.
07:42And they basically became method actors. It's unbelievable.
07:45Oh, my God. They came back as method actors
07:48and they re-recorded all their tracks.
07:50They didn't change the tracks, it was the same music, just with an American accent,
07:53and they got a record deal for tens of thousands of pounds.
07:56Oh, my God. They cut six albums, they supported Eminem, D12,
08:00they played all over the country, they were on MTV umpteen times,
08:03with the plan that when they were making it big enough,
08:06they would go on, in their minds, Jonathan Ross,
08:08and they would come out and expose the industry for being,
08:12I don't know, obsessed with the norm. Yeah, right.
08:15And then, of course, that didn't quite happen and they got into the fame
08:18and it was two and a half years of being in character constantly.
08:22And I don't know if you know any method actors,
08:24but it's not the best thing for your mental health.
08:26I wouldn't suggest. No. No.
08:27Do you reckon they were ever tickled?
08:30Because your real voice would surely come out.
08:33Fuckin' leave it alone, you bastard! I mean...
08:37Shall we have a look at the trailer?
08:39We would like to sign you. Get the bubbles.
08:43They actually think you're American. Yeah!
08:46But how? Your accents are pure shite.
08:48I know!
08:48We'll release a single and then we'll come out fully Scottish and expose those wanker.
08:52Killin' a billy, smokin' a billy's hotter than chillies.
08:55You know the dealie, leave your mouth in my water's like millie vanilla!
08:58Everyone loves you.
09:00Age at these leave blue flags.
09:03I think I might have screwed him soon up.
09:06Let's go!
09:06You're sick of positions you're in.
09:08Sick of being kids in the rips in the gym.
09:10Sick of snickin' and drinkin' predicament.
09:13Time to rip the script and go. Time to rip the script and go.
09:17CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
09:18Fantastic!
09:21Thank you, guys. Cheers.
09:22It's a really...
09:23It's a really personal film to me.
09:25So I'm really glad that you have us on to talk about it.
09:27Thank you, Claudia.
09:28Well, I like the fact, not at all, that I read that you said
09:31sometimes the biggest thing in the room is an accent.
09:34Well, I think sometimes the...
09:36You're a person when you walk into a room, right?
09:38And you are... You have infinite possibilities.
09:40You're capable of anything in the eyes of the people that you're with.
09:44And then whatever it is that makes you different
09:46sometimes just turns you into that thing only.
09:48And that becomes bigger than your potential,
09:51bigger than you as an individual.
09:53And I think for Scottish people,
09:54this isn't every room you walk into as a Scottish person,
09:56it's not every reaction I get, but I definitely walked into a room
10:00and suddenly I go from being somebody who might get the job
10:04and suddenly I'm just a wee accent and it becomes a bit reductive
10:07and they kind of just make you tiny and make you just that one thing.
10:11And that sort of came over at that point.
10:13And look, I get it.
10:14Like, you know, there are people who suffer forms of discrimination
10:17way, way, way, way, way worse than that.
10:19But it's the voice of an entire nation that takes in many people
10:24of different colours, creeds, genders, sexualities, all sorts of things.
10:28And that voice, I think, sometimes gets reduced rather than being heard.
10:32For six million people, I'd love to see more Scottish films.
10:35That's great.
10:37I agree.
10:40Have you personally, have you personally ever been told to sort of turn it down?
10:47Oh, I've been literally told to turn it down.
10:49And I was playing a particularly famous Scottish role as a Scottish person
10:55and was, you know, was asked to do it as a Scottish person, which was great.
11:00Brilliant.
11:00And I'm in rehearsals and the director said to me, I won't do his accent
11:03because it's reductive.
11:06Even though if you paid me, I would.
11:09How much do you know?
11:10Yeah, exactly.
11:12I ain't cheap, Gloria.
11:14And he goes, just so you know, James, every now and again,
11:17when we're on the day, I might just ask you to...
11:20And I was like, what do you mean? He went, Scotty.
11:24Scotty. Scotty.
11:25Scotty.
11:25Scotty.
11:25And he did that voice as well and I was just like, what a walloper.
11:29Wow.
11:29Yeah.
11:30What a walloper.
11:31That's a very good word.
11:33How did you find directing for the first time and acting?
11:37Because I imagine that is...
11:39That's juggling.
11:40I wouldn't wish directing and acting are my worst enemy.
11:43When I see people at Bradley Cooper or whatever play big,
11:45huge leading roles in the director, I'm like,
11:47you must have a self-harming thing, you know?
11:50Yeah, it was a nightmare.
11:52It was like, you'd literally be going, like, oh, I need more love
11:55or I need more comedy or I just need more connection or whatever
11:58and somebody's whispering and you're going, like,
11:59we can't get the port-a-loose for tomorrow.
12:01So we have to change the location because if anybody needs a shit,
12:06we won't be able to make it happen.
12:09And you're like, OK, OK,
12:11if you could just have more love in your eyes, right?
12:14Right.
12:15And actually, where's the Nina shitter?
12:17Yeah, it was mental.
12:19And then you're having to go and act and then you're on your
12:21weight, you're marked, somebody's giving you more chat
12:23about the port-a-loose and...
12:24It was a lot.
12:25I had no idea that the director has to deal with the toilet facilities.
12:29There was a lot of talk about...
12:31Well, they had to deal with everything.
12:31There was a lot of talk about toileting.
12:34LAUGHTER
12:35I like the fact that you, because you didn't have the biggest budget,
12:39you were careful and you had to fill a stadium, right?
12:42Or you had to fill a huge venue of 2,000 people.
12:452,000 people at the Battlelands, yeah.
12:46It was amazing.
12:47And we, like, you know, I did Atonement, which had, I don't know,
12:50tens of millions in the budget and we could only manage, like,
12:53what is it, 1,000 extras on that?
12:55And we needed 2,000, which would have cost us.
12:57I was informed one day, maybe offhand, that it was 350 grand,
13:00which we couldn't do.
13:02So we ended up putting on a gig ourselves.
13:05Roddy and Tommy, Roddy Hurt and Tommy Riley,
13:07who are amazing musicians and composers up in Glasgow,
13:10put together a sort of local super band.
13:12We advertised it and we got 2,000 Glaswegians to come.
13:16Wow.
13:16And dressed in the naughty's outfits, put the phones away
13:19and jam out to this amazing naughty's gig that we put on
13:23with this Glasgow super band.
13:24And then, if you would, stay for a couple of tracks from our boys.
13:28And we thought, you know, we'll get a couple of takes
13:30and five cameras and we'll get as much as we can.
13:33And the Glasgow crowd stayed for two hours.
13:35Oh, wow.
13:36And our boys just ended up putting on a real gig
13:38and it was electric.
13:39It was amazing.
13:40And they do this thing, Glasgow, I don't know if they did it
13:43back then, but they do this thing, Glasgow, at gigs,
13:45where we go, if we appreciate what you do, we shout,
13:49can I swear?
13:50Yeah.
13:50You can bleep it out.
13:51We shout en masse, 2,000 people, hear me, hear me,
13:53here we fucking go, hear me, hear me, here we fucking go.
13:57And they just chant it at the singers.
13:59And they did it for our boys.
14:00And so, even though I don't think it was the right time period
14:03for that, we stuck it in the film.
14:05Yeah.
14:05It was just...
14:06You can't not put that in the movie.
14:08It's amazing.
14:09It's too good.
14:10I don't think you know that this was a movie about rappers,
14:13but maybe my agents didn't get to you for that.
14:19I do spit some flow, James.
14:21Have you got some fat bars?
14:24I have some fat bars.
14:25I mean, you're asking us to ask you,
14:27do you spit some right now?
14:28Yes.
14:29Are you good?
14:29Can you spit some?
14:30I'm going to spit some flow right now.
14:31Shall I spit some flow?
14:37I might need audience participation.
14:39What do you need us to do?
14:41And I just want to put into brackets,
14:43we haven't been drinking.
14:44I know.
14:45I need a beat.
14:49You drew a picture of my morning,
14:50but you couldn't make my day.
14:51I'm walking in your nine,
14:52but you never looked my way.
14:54I'm looking down, you darling,
14:55and every single eight.
14:56Your funny flow is gone,
14:57and your blinker's on the way.
14:58This ain't got shit to do with shampoo,
15:00so watch your head and shoulder.
15:01You're the older, bold enough to fold you.
15:03Yo, I told you.
15:03I'm right afraid of what I made,
15:05and played it for some funky tricks,
15:06so save your flicks and bricks.
15:07Put that music in the funky bricks.
15:09Drink up from the grill town, ill town.
15:10So that's how it feels now.
15:12The deals that were real,
15:13so we're still around.
15:13Don't lamp with your freestyle phantom,
15:15ain't trying to be handsome.
15:17Think of what you're thinking,
15:18because I'm vamping.
15:19I live and die for hip-hop.
15:20This is hip-hop for today.
15:21I give props to hip-hop.
15:22So hip-hop.
15:23Hooray!
15:37I mean, in the sequel.
15:39There's going to be a sequel now.
15:40In the sequel, yes.
15:41I think you can bring the mother in.
15:43Wilson, I did not know that was coming.
15:46I am delighted with it.
15:49James, tell me when the movie's out.
15:52Movie is coming out on April the 10th,
15:56nationwide, and all across Ireland as well.
15:59So, yeah, please get yourselves along.
16:00We're really proud of it.
16:02We definitely will.
16:08Um...
16:09Rita, we're going to talk about your album,
16:12but first, just because Rita produced Mamma Mia.
16:16I don't know about you.
16:17One of the producers.
16:18Tell me, is number three coming,
16:20how a share of people sown dungarees?
16:23Fill us in.
16:24Okay.
16:26Well, um...
16:27All right.
16:27Let me just say this, that...
16:29Tell us the truth.
16:30There...
16:30No.
16:31There will always be discussions about a third Mamma Mia,
16:34because who wouldn't want a third Mamma Mia?
16:37That is the truth.
16:38Right?
16:41Pure Joy.
16:43It's a movie that has given people pure joy and happiness.
16:47I mean, it's just wonderful.
16:49So, yes, there are always discussions,
16:52but there's nothing definitively to announce.
16:55Okay.
16:56Thank you so much.
16:59Here's the thing.
17:00The Greek government loved you for doing it so much,
17:03they put your face on a stamp.
17:04That is true.
17:05I think we have...
17:06Wow.
17:07Yeah.
17:12Look at that.
17:13I mean, it's still...
17:16I also like it because it's quite bridal.
17:17It's really, isn't it?
17:19It's very bridal.
17:20It's divine.
17:21But you know what's interesting is,
17:23I can't get out of my head, though,
17:26this image of people licking the back of my head.
17:31It's just so strange.
17:33You need it to actually happen so that you can exercise.
17:35Yeah.
17:36Could you?
17:36Get ready.
17:37Let's go.
17:40Wow.
17:41That feels good.
17:42That feels good.
17:43Elmett.
17:43Elmett.
17:44Do you think...
17:45Do you think the Queen and Philip ever did that?
17:49Yeah.
17:50So, Rita, you're about to release your sixth studio album.
17:54I have it here.
17:55Sound of a Woman.
18:01You said it's your most revealing album yet, I believe.
18:06What do you mean by that?
18:07It is.
18:07It's about different phases of a woman's life.
18:10You know?
18:11It's...
18:11As we come into the world, as young girls were labeled,
18:15we're, you know, oh, what a sweet young girl.
18:17What a sassy teen.
18:19Oh, now you're a good worker, a good student,
18:21or you're a girlfriend or a wife or a mother or something.
18:26And all of those things are parts of who we are,
18:28but they're not exactly everything that we are.
18:31Look, it's like you're shedding all those images.
18:34Don't you feel like at a certain point in your life,
18:36like I'm at the age right now where I just don't care
18:38what anybody thinks.
18:39Yeah.
18:39I don't care what anybody thinks.
18:40I've earned that, right?
18:42Yeah.
18:43Everybody should earn it at any point in your life.
18:46Really.
18:47It shouldn't just be, well, you know, I've gotten to this age.
18:52And I don't believe that there is a clock on creativity.
18:55Like, at what point does somebody say, oh, I'm so sorry.
18:59Yeah, you were supposed to do that at 29 and three quarters years old
19:02and that time has passed.
19:04Yeah.
19:05Who's to say it?
19:05We're only limited, really, by our own perceptions or beliefs
19:09about what we tell ourselves.
19:11Yeah, absolutely.
19:17The album is called The Sound of a Woman.
19:20Right.
19:20What is the sound of a woman?
19:23That's my question.
19:24Is it hip-hop?
19:25I'm going to ask you that question.
19:27Is it what?
19:27Is it hip-hop?
19:28Is it hip-hop?
19:28It's definitely hip-hop.
19:30The sound of a woman, I think, is just shh.
19:32Exactly.
19:33I say that quite a lot.
19:35My husband has an idea.
19:38Exactly.
19:39He's not.
19:39That's another one.
19:40He's not.
19:41Here, Claude, I've got a...
19:42Up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up
19:44-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up-up.
19:54Wow.
19:55I saw a lady see Johnny Depp in the street.
20:00This is probably about 20 years ago, and the noise...
20:02I'll never do it justice, but she saw it and went...
20:05And it was...
20:06It was so just...
20:09And you could sort of see it happening as he's walking down various...
20:11It was just sort of gliding down the street, causing various noises.
20:17Um, I could do something, but it's filthy.
20:19Do it!
20:20Just do it right now before.
20:20No, no, no.
20:21Yes!
20:25Yes!
20:27Yes!
20:27Yes!
20:28Yes!
20:28Yes!
20:29Yes!
20:29Yes!
20:30Yes!
20:30Yes!
20:30Yes!
20:32Yes!
20:35Yes!
20:41No, you're doing it.
20:42I'll tell you what I can do.
20:43I can do an extraordinary...
20:45It's audio only.
20:47Horse impression.
20:49Do you want to go round the back so that we can only hear you?
20:53And I have used it in foreplay.
20:58You make them laugh.
21:00Are you ready?
21:01Have a minute.
21:02It's audio.
21:03Just imagine, wedding night, 28 years, guys.
21:07Ready?
21:08OK.
21:09Are you coming to bed?
21:10Yes.
21:11Yes.
21:11I get pretend hooves on.
21:12I don't.
21:13Great.
21:14Are you ready?
21:14Oh!
21:16Oh!
21:18Oh!
21:19Oh!
21:19Oh!
21:21Oh!
21:23Oh, yeah.
21:25We all would.
21:27We all would.
21:27Yeah.
21:28That is the sound of a woman.
21:33Just to be clear.
21:36What a man.
21:37Rita.
21:38Let us have a look at your video.
21:42Oh, good.
21:42Oh, yes.
21:43This is Jury of One.
21:44Out today.
21:45I don't know what I don't know, but I know that I'm confused.
21:53Pleading for forgiveness, but there really is no use.
22:00After everything I've done, there's a jury of just one.
22:07But it's me.
22:12Sorry.
22:15That it is.
22:17And it's out today.
22:19That song is called Jury of One because it's about feeling guilty.
22:23You're always guilty.
22:24Like, if you're working, you feel guilty that you're not at home and with the kids or with
22:28your family.
22:29And then if you're with your kids and the family at home, you're thinking creatively like,
22:34oh, gosh, I feel bad that I'm not working there.
22:36And I think that guilt has a twin sister called apology.
22:40Yeah.
22:40And apology is like, women, we say I'm sorry all the time for all sorts of things.
22:44Like, somebody could kick me in the knee and be like, I'm so sorry my knee was in the way.
22:48Yeah.
22:49Okay.
22:49I'm a fan of both guilt and apologizing.
22:53Exactly.
22:53I am.
22:54I quite fine.
22:54I never mean it.
22:56No.
22:57You know what I mean?
22:58That's when they're getting it wrong.
23:00I'm so sorry.
23:03Just filling in some space.
23:06Um, one, uh, I'm joking.
23:08Unless I did you wrong, which goes, I'm very sorry.
23:11No, I am.
23:12I am.
23:13Um, one of the songs is called marriage.
23:16You have been married for 38 years.
23:18We have a couple here who are getting married.
23:21Hello.
23:21Hello.
23:22There they are.
23:23Oh, hi.
23:24That's delicious.
23:27I believe, are you getting married in like a week?
23:30Yes.
23:31Yes.
23:31How are you going to celebrate?
23:33We're getting married in Nottingham.
23:34Yeah.
23:35Lovely.
23:35And our reception is at a water park.
23:38That's a great location.
23:40Yeah, yeah.
23:40Water park, sir.
23:41Guys, you are being too polite.
23:43I'm sorry.
23:44I can't do this.
23:46Listen.
23:46Have you, have you put down the deposit?
23:51Deposits are paid.
23:52Everything's paid.
23:53Everything's paid.
23:54Too late.
23:54But have you ever been to Aqualand in Benador?
23:57No.
23:58Like, you don't even have to go on the rides to have fun.
24:01One of the best things is when you watch a big northern man go down a flume.
24:09It's just, like, because the, sometimes the trunks arrive before the man.
24:16It's that kind of girl, but they, they, they look like haunted babies.
24:20They, you just hear them, it's too fast, Linda, it's too fast, like everything.
24:25It's, but if, if your marriage is, has as many highs as that water park has given me.
24:31Oh, yeah.
24:31And I'm sure you can have a blessed, blessed life, yeah.
24:34Are you wearing a bikini and a veil?
24:36Like, what's your outfit?
24:37No, look, it's TBC, whether I'll actually go down there.
24:40Oh, really?
24:41OK, OK.
24:42Let's see how it is.
24:43Yeah.
24:44Hold it high!
24:45You know, I mean, I wasn't.
24:49I meant.
24:52I meant.
24:54LAUGHTER
24:54APPLAUSE
24:59And congratulations again.
25:01The answer, longevity, what's the answer?
25:03The answer is, don't get divorced.
25:05LAUGHTER
25:07Very long marriage.
25:09Yeah.
25:09Stay married.
25:10Yeah.
25:11Thank you very much.
25:12And also, don't watch box sets apart.
25:15Oh, yeah.
25:16I think that's very...
25:17No binge cheating.
25:18Yeah.
25:18Yeah.
25:19That's a better way of putting it.
25:20No binge cheating.
25:21Rita, when is this out?
25:23Please tell us.
25:24The album is out May 1st.
25:25The two singles, Michelangelo and Sound of a Woman are out and Jury of One today.
25:31Oh, lovely.
25:34And, Claudia, I should mention this because I forget that I'm going to be touring in the UK and Europe
25:42in November.
25:43This is perfect.
25:44Yes.
25:44It's really good.
25:45Really good.
25:49Um, Rita.
25:51Yes?
25:52A slight bone to pick with you.
25:53All right.
25:54You enjoy camping?
25:55Yeah.
25:56I love camping.
25:57But do you mean camping as in, we're coming, pitch up the tent and bring me a pet giraffe or
26:02are you...
26:04I don't know.
26:04I've never camped.
26:05No.
26:06Or you're like driving and you're making a stove?
26:09Yes.
26:10We have one of those vans that is, you know, kitted out with a bed and a kitchen and everything.
26:16And there's nothing better than cooking in the outdoors.
26:19It is so fantastic.
26:20Like, I don't know, there's something about being under the stars and there's a lovely little...
26:26lovely toilet in there.
26:28So it's very civilised.
26:29It's very civilised.
26:30Is it one of those where you have that blue liquid and you have to...
26:33No.
26:34They're very high-tech now.
26:36Oh, are they?
26:36Very, very high-tech.
26:38It's always...
26:38You know what I mean?
26:39It's that weird.
26:39Exactly.
26:40It's great and then you're like...
26:42Terrible.
26:44You're like working away, you're shame.
26:46No.
26:47It's beautiful and it's really, really great.
26:50Yeah.
26:51But it is that...
26:52Sometimes she's like...
26:53And that's really...
26:53You get her friends coming in a minute.
26:55Yeah.
26:55She's making the horse noises.
26:58I can't kill the move.
27:03I haven't camped for a while but I remember I was about 23, I was down in New Zealand.
27:08It was amazing and I barely saw another living soul the whole time I did it.
27:10That was just backpacking?
27:11Backpacking and camping.
27:12Wow.
27:12I'm in the middle of the Coromando subtropical rainforest and it's night time and there's
27:18possums, right?
27:19And the possums rustle around and do all that kind of stuff.
27:21I just got so scared this one night that I got my gas lamp on and I turned my gas
27:27lamp
27:28on to cast shadows on my tent and I got my little like Swiss army knife and I got every
27:32little attacks on it and I was like...
27:34Come on now!
27:35You see me?
27:36You see me?
27:37I've got...
27:38I'm carrying!
27:40Tune up your pants!
27:42So...
27:42With tweezers!
27:44Yeah, I know.
27:44I know.
27:45There's a torch and a pen!
27:48Gugu, do you camp?
27:49You know, I didn't really grow up camping.
27:51Only child problems.
27:54But no, I'm a bit of a beginner.
27:56I did camp for the first time a couple of years ago on a trip climbing up Mount Kilimanjaro.
28:03Oh, wow!
28:04That was kind of...
28:05You went from zero to 90.
28:07I know.
28:07I know.
28:08And I was...
28:09Yeah, I kind of, you know, obviously it's like six, seven days and altitude and all of
28:14that and, you know, being a beginner I was like, what about, you know, being comfortable
28:17and, you know, I was really...
28:19I'd maybe glamped, you know, or something.
28:22Yes, right.
28:22So I brought like...
28:23I bought one little luxury which was like my little goose pillow.
28:27Oh, yeah.
28:27And I took that up but everybody laughed at me.
28:31You don't camp.
28:32I can see that face.
28:34Well, it's just because we used to go camping loads because we didn't have
28:36any money when we were younger.
28:38So the first time you get into a hotel it's just incredible.
28:41Oh, yeah.
28:41Yeah.
28:42Like, have you been wiping your ass with a leaf?
28:44And then suddenly this toilet roll and like little pots of jam that you can steal?
28:50Yeah!
28:50Come on.
28:51I'm good.
28:52Exactly.
28:53Don't get this in the woods.
28:55Gugu, we have something in common.
28:57You have a trampoline.
28:58I bought a trampoline.
28:59Oh, yeah.
29:00Yeah.
29:00Who told you to get a trampoline?
29:02You know, my friend Sarah at the beginning of lockdown took me to this trampoline class in
29:08LA and I was like, this is amazing.
29:11Like, it's so kind of ridiculous but actually really difficult.
29:16But kind of fun.
29:16And really fun.
29:17And I think, you know, and so as soon as COVID hit I ordered a trampoline because I felt like,
29:22you know, you do like three or four bounces on a trampoline and you feel like six years old.
29:26I bought a little trampoline.
29:28But with the handle.
29:29Because I'm 64.
29:30Yes.
29:31Yes.
29:32To take it off?
29:33Start with the handle.
29:33Yeah.
29:34You hold the handle.
29:35I haven't taken out of it.
29:36You also look like you're riding your own horse.
29:38Yeah, yeah.
29:40Birthday's a Christmas baby.
29:44Too much.
29:46I have a heart.
29:46No biggie.
29:47Um, it's the most fun.
29:49It's the most fun.
29:50Yeah.
29:50Do you know we have the Olympic gold medalist, the best trampolining in the world.
29:55Briony, you're here.
29:56What?
29:57All right.
29:57Yay!
29:58Oh my God!
29:59Thank you for being with us.
30:05Um, Gugu loves trampolining and it is, it's been proven to be like...
30:10The best.
30:11The best exercise.
30:12Yeah, so trampolining is so much fun, like you've already said.
30:14It can make you feel like a superhuman.
30:16Yeah.
30:17So if you're jumping on the floor, really limited, you can only jump so high.
30:20But as soon as you get on that trampoline and you're working really hard, training hard,
30:23you can go up to 10 metres in the air, you're flying in the air for like two seconds long
30:28and you're super thrilling, you get to flip around and somersault and it feels like you're
30:33riding a rollercoaster.
30:34I half remember, because I remember nothing in my life, I half remember somebody telling
30:38me that bouncing has a particular sort of physiological benefit.
30:42Is that right or did I make that up one time?
30:43No, definitely.
30:44So I think it was Nasa that said if you do 30 minutes on a trampoline, sorry, 10 minutes
30:50on a trampoline is like 30 minutes running.
30:52Yeah.
30:52But also very good for court.
30:53It just makes us all happy.
30:54Let's all get trampolines.
30:55Yeah.
30:56After the show, we'll go to trampolines off.
30:58Yeah.
30:59It's really fun.
31:00Yeah.
31:01Now, Gugu, we're going to talk about the film called Fuse.
31:05Tell us what it's about.
31:07It's a heist action thriller set in London and yeah, I play a police officer in it.
31:14There's a discovery of an unexploded World War II bomb in London and it's kind of a race
31:20against time to evacuate the city.
31:22But also there's kind of a twist in it as well and in that there's a, well, I don't
31:28want to give it away, but it's a very kind of gripping heist thriller and it's with Aaron
31:33Taylor Johnson, Theo James, myself, Sam Worthington and Saffron Hawkins.
31:39What a good cast.
31:39Yes.
31:40Let us have a clip, please.
31:42We detected a heat signature inside the cordon.
31:44We need to investigate.
31:45We think people could still be there.
31:49Right, the police have detected an unidentified heat source.
31:56Gee, Superintendent, what's going on?
31:58Sorry, Major, but we've had to send a car in.
32:01We'll relay police radio now to keep you in the loop.
32:03I'm going to be a very dangerous procedure.
32:05I haven't even finished the mitigation wall, which means if the bomb detonates, I don't
32:10even have to tell you how bad that's going to be.
32:11I understand, Major, but we can't risk injury to the public.
32:15We'll be as quick as we can.
32:18Oh, wow!
32:20It looked so great.
32:23And you've shadowed police officers, didn't you?
32:26Yes.
32:26And learnt a lot about the work they do.
32:28Yeah, I mean, my character is Chief Superintendent and she is, her role is what's running gold
32:34in the command control centre.
32:35So I got to visit some command control centres in London and in Essex and talk to some high-ranking
32:41female police officers, of which there are still very few.
32:44So it was really interesting sort of being in those control centres, seeing those cameras
32:50of London, you know, the switch of a button, you can see pretty much any street or view
32:55in London, which is kind of comforting and kind of chilling.
32:59But no, it was really, really interesting to kind of learn about that work, as I say,
33:04because to be able to have that, you know, perspective from real police officers was really,
33:09really helpful.
33:09So, when can we watch Fuse?
33:11Oh!
33:12It's out today!
33:13Perfect!
33:13Excellent!
33:17James, I love the fact we were chatting earlier and you said your favourite thing is
33:22when you're acting is watching the person who is acting right in front of you.
33:25Like, sometimes you're...
33:26And I love when you're so in awe.
33:28Oh, man.
33:29Sometimes, like, sometimes really good acting just makes it all seem seamless and all
33:33that kind of stuff.
33:33Sometimes you're working with somebody who just does something so good, you're like,
33:37Yeah.
33:38Oh, my God.
33:39And then you drop your line and you mess up the whole scene and you mess them up.
33:42But I quite often find myself with really good actors just, like, mouthing along with you.
33:48And they'll be like, what are you doing?
33:49I'm like, I'm sorry, what?
33:51I'm just in the scene with you.
33:52You're like, you're mouthing my lines.
33:54I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
33:55I'm just, like, preparing my line.
33:58But, yeah, I've messed a couple of actors up by doing that.
34:01Oh.
34:01Yeah, but how amazing to be?
34:02Because you're nodding.
34:03You must...
34:04Oh, no, yeah.
34:04I remember I did a movie called It's Complicated with Meryl Streep.
34:08And you're looking at this person, you're like, it's Meryl Streep.
34:14I can't believe it's Sophie from Sophie's Choice.
34:18And then you just have to kind of become a professional and do your thing.
34:21But that first few moments is definitely distracting.
34:25I was like that with your husband.
34:27Oh, really?
34:28Like, not that we acted together, but, like, I would go in and...
34:31Yeah, no, he wouldn't let me.
34:34Would you just say who your husband is?
34:36Just tell the group.
34:38Yeah, you're married too.
34:40Just so you know.
34:42Yes.
34:42Tell me.
34:44I'm sorry to have to tell you this.
34:46But you have all this and been married to Tom Hanks.
34:48Yes, I am.
34:50And I...
34:50Yep, but he does deserve that.
34:54I don't know why I do this thing sometimes when I get around famous people,
34:57when they kind of go like, hey, what's up?
34:59What are you going to get for lunch?
35:00And they've just been totally normal.
35:01And I'm like, I feel so uncomfortable.
35:04And I go into this weird sort of over, like, almost put on working class thing.
35:10I'm like, all right, man, I know I'm going to get some chips or something.
35:14I'm going to get, like, I drive a Punto.
35:17You know what I mean?
35:18How would you drive a Ferrari?
35:19I'm going to get some bread with butter.
35:23I'm going to get some caviar.
35:25And I don't know why that happens.
35:27Yeah, of course, I don't like it.
35:28It's a bit like, you know, when you really fancy somebody.
35:31Yeah.
35:32But early on, you know, with the first person,
35:34I found somebody so badly when I was 17, he would speak to me,
35:36and I would just be sick.
35:38LAUGHTER
35:39About that character in South Park.
35:40He was like, everything right?
35:43Again, the sound of a woman.
35:45The sound of a woman.
35:46Yeah.
35:47I went to see Rufus Wainwright, the singer, who I'm a big fan of.
35:51And he invited me to go out for dinner with him.
35:53So we went for dinner.
35:54It was really exciting.
35:55You know when you meet your hero and then you're up in tea?
35:57Yeah.
35:58I had some spare jam.
36:06And then he said, oh, do you want to go and hang out with my friend Carrie?
36:10I said, oh, yeah, sure.
36:11So then we'd come and meet Carrie, and it was Carrie Fisher.
36:14Oh.
36:15So I'm suddenly in this insane...
36:16I'm around Carrie Fisher's house, and her dog was eating ice cream, and she was about...
36:21With the spoon?
36:22Not with the spoon.
36:23LAUGHTER
36:23I didn't do that.
36:24I didn't do that.
36:25Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:27But, yeah, he wasn't doing that.
36:29I naturally did the vibe.
36:30So anyway, so we were sort of just drinking, and Carrie wasn't, but me and Rufus were blah,
36:35blah, blah.
36:35And then they found out that I was a stand-up comedian, and they were both like, do some...
36:41Oh, what?
36:42Yeah, and I was like, well, no, you can't...
36:44Is that really...
36:44It doesn't work.
36:45Like, I just...
36:46And I'm trying to explain next.
36:47She's like, just go into the bathroom, come out, do five minutes.
36:51I'm like, how are we here?
36:53Are you ready to come out in laundry?
36:54Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:55Wow.
36:56But, so I kind of desperately thought, right, this idea I had of, like, human beings blame animals for our
37:02weird behaviour.
37:04Like, I've never seen a rat snitch, I've never seen a badger badger, I've never seen an elephant in a
37:08room go,
37:09I know.
37:11Catfish is my favourite.
37:13You know, catfish, someone goes online, pretends to be someone else, they don't do that.
37:17They're not in the sea going, show us your tits, I'm a dolphin.
37:19LAUGHTER
37:21Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny.
37:24That's good.
37:27And Carrie Fisher, a.k.a. Princess Leia, goes, people paying money for this?
37:31LAUGHTER
37:32I was kind of like, well, you know, occasionally and like that.
37:36And it's just, I love that you become the Evans.
37:38Oh, yeah.
37:40It was mortifying.
37:41But it was, for whatever reason, stand-up is, as soon as you're told to do it, it's gone.
37:47You have started taking your family on tour with you.
37:49I have, yes.
37:50Haven't you? Because you're doing this massive tour.
37:52Yes.
37:52You're going with your wife and your 19-month-old.
37:54Yes.
37:55I've been doing stand-up for 28 years.
37:57But sort of travelling with those two just makes it really fun again, because then you get
38:01to kind of, like, we're going to Manchester this weekend and there's a transport museum,
38:06there's a, there's a, there's a Legoland and he's really into diggers.
38:11Like, he loves diggers.
38:12Oh, they love diggers.
38:13So, so we're, we, so, but basically, but I've got these, I've got like six gigs and yet the
38:19highlight is the transport museum, because I know it's going to blow his mind.
38:23Oh, completely.
38:23Do you know, it's that, but it's that funny thing of like, nothing prepares you for how
38:27excited your kids get about baffling stuff.
38:30Yeah.
38:31So we've got, we've got like a little stick.
38:33If I push the stick around, like my son's like, Daddy Hoover, Daddy Hoover.
38:39And that makes me happy because he's happy.
38:42So I know I'm now like this, just, I'm so eager, but it's got to that stage where I'm
38:46like, Daddy Hoover, Daddy.
38:48He's like, oh, that was so yesterday.
38:51I was about to say, because you're about, you know, you're about to go on stage and
38:55make thousands of people laugh.
38:57Yeah.
38:57Anyone who knows a 19 month old.
38:59Yes.
38:59Try and make them smile.
39:01Sometimes it happens, but you, I mean, you have to work hard.
39:03Yeah.
39:04To make them laugh, right?
39:05When they're six months, you do a fake sneeze, they giggle.
39:08You're like, come on.
39:09And they get to about two and you're like, do you find this funny?
39:14Yeah.
39:15Yeah.
39:15That's not actually what a sheep sounds like.
39:18A horse on the other hand.
39:19Yeah.
39:21A horse, I'll hold my beer.
39:25The tour is called Don't Tell the Algorithm.
39:28Yes.
39:28I love that title.
39:29Will you change your material as you go?
39:31Oh, yeah.
39:32Particularly if you're travelling in Europe and you've, I remember being in Norway,
39:34they've got a phrase called Vente Pulsar, which is, it translates as a waiting sausage.
39:40So if you keep a Norwegian waiting, they will eat a hot dog.
39:44And I just think it's such a funny excuse for gluttony.
39:48Just like, you know, if you force me to linger, I eat a pork finger.
39:54And it's this, that, in that moment...
40:00But it's, it's that thing, that, that, that wouldn't be funny if you were doing it in, in Halifax.
40:06But that night, if you, if you're able to...
40:07Oh, I didn't know.
40:08No, no, no, no, but...
40:09It's funny.
40:10But if you're able to kind of really be in a place and the audience can tell, you're like,
40:15oh, my God, this is happening now.
40:16This, he's not...
40:18It really does something.
40:19It's kind of, and if you can blend it with material and actually be there and improvise,
40:24it's, you can, you get into that kind of flow state and it's the best.
40:27I love it so much.
40:28I really, I think I'm a lifer.
40:30But I haven't found anything through which I can do life more than stand-up.
40:34Is it true that Billy Connolly made you want to be a stand-up?
40:38Yeah, I think so.
40:38I just remember watching my dad howl.
40:41And he was like, I think Billy Connolly was like, for a certain generation,
40:44like this fire in the corner of the country where we'd kind of warm ourselves around
40:49and you'd see your dad laughing, your mum was laughing, your uncle, whatever.
40:52Yeah.
40:52And I was so intrigued by this kind of, like, this guy.
40:56I was like, imagine trying to be that.
40:57And then I got to interview him, which was, like, talking to God.
41:01And then kind of making him laugh.
41:03Oh, wild.
41:04And he's such a sweet, just, you know, beautiful man.
41:09Oh, yeah.
41:09I could talk about him for hours.
41:11I love him.
41:11But I imagine everyone in Scotland feels the same, but absolutely.
41:14Yeah.
41:14When you've got a nickname, call him the Beguin.
41:16Mm.
41:17The Beguin.
41:17The Beguin.
41:18Yeah.
41:20The Beguin.
41:20That's, that's a good email address.
41:22Yes.
41:24It is.
41:24It promises a lot.
41:26Exactly.
41:30Everything's about expectations.
41:33Yeah.
41:33Especially if he's at Hotmail.
41:37He's digging at Hotmail.
41:39It's wild.
41:42Russell, how can people see the top?
41:44They can see it.
41:45It's all over the country, all over England and Ireland and Scotland, until November.
41:52Thank you very much.
41:53Pleasure.
41:58We've nearly come to the end of the show.
42:00Have we covered everything?
42:02Is there anybody here, we are not qualified, who would like some guidance on anything?
42:07I really like hands going on.
42:10It's so good.
42:10Yes.
42:11Wait, I need to get you a microphone.
42:13I was a bit keen.
42:14Sorry.
42:14I was just wondering what advice you have.
42:17If you're having a conversation with someone and then they start going on their phone while
42:21you're talking to them, what do you do?
42:24I think most people stay married to them for quite a long time.
42:29But...
42:34That sounds like I'm slagging my wafer off.
42:36No, it doesn't.
42:36I'm not.
42:37I'm not.
42:37It's me.
42:38Or you just call them.
42:41Oh!
42:41Yay!
42:43And then suddenly you're there.
42:47That kind of works.
42:49Thank you so much.
42:51That's it for this week.
42:53I would like to thank my guests Russell Howard, Rita Wilton, Gugu and Butteraw, and James
43:01McAvoy.
43:03Join me next week where my guests will be Michelle De Swat, Olivia Cooke, Arna Farris, and
43:08Ray Fiennes.
43:10Good night.
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