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Texas Rangers manager Skip Schumaker joined K&C Masterpiece to preview the home opener and discuss his management philosophy. He discussed the team's strong start, approach to communication, and learning the new ABS challenge system. Schumaker also praised the performance of Andrew McCutchen, Ezequiel Duran, and more.
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00:00We bring to you Texas Rangers manager Skip Schumacher. Good morning, sir, and happy home
00:06opener. Good morning, guys. How are you guys doing? Man, we're doing fantastic. How could you not be
00:11here at the ballpark? And I know the home opener is always a big deal and winning a series is
00:18always a good thing, but how big of a deal is it to start a season with back-to-back
00:22road series
00:23wins, which in the history of the Texas Rangers has been a rarity? It's always good to win. It's
00:29always good to win on the road as well. I love playing on the road to open a season, get
00:34the
00:35guys together. They bond quicker being in a hotel. I think there's a lot of value opening on the road
00:42and then obviously winning helps. We've played two really good teams and just happy to come back to
00:48Texas 4-2. I still get jitters Skip every time we do a show like this. Every time we do
00:55a show,
00:55I feel like I get a little nervous flutter going on. Do you have some nerves opening this thing up
00:59in front of your crowd? I guess a little bit. I mean, if you don't have nerves, you don't care,
01:05right? That's like the old saying, but I do feel very confident and prepared and I think the guys
01:11are ready to roll. It's a veteran clubhouse, but I will tell you that they're excited. New season,
01:19a lot of new faces as well, but I think they're excited to play in front of their own crowd
01:24and
01:24not a hostile crowd like we were just in. Yeah, for sure. I like what you said about the
01:29veteran clubhouse because when it comes to that and your style of management, does Skip Schumacher
01:35have to talk a little more to younger players and with older players? He's like, I can trust them
01:41to go do their jobs? Well, I think communication is key in this seat. I never stop communicating,
01:47whether it's the future Hall of Famers that we have on our roster or the guys that are just
01:52breaking in like a Carter Bomler. So I think it's different in who you talk to and how you
01:59communicate, but I don't feel like you ever stop communicating. I do think that the last thing I
02:05want to be is a headline, so I don't want to be that in this seat, but I do feel
02:11like it's all
02:12about the players and the communication. It never stops. Man, I'm really fascinated, especially when
02:18you brought up Hall of Famers. Do you have any players who you want to tell us, like Corey Seager,
02:23who are like, I like playing on the road. I like it when I get booed. I'll show them.
02:27There are guys that enjoy the road more than sometimes because of the added motivation.
02:34You know, the Philly fans are always on top of you when you're on the on-deck circle or playing
02:40right field like, you know, Nimmo was, right? So like, it doesn't matter. You know, I think,
02:46you know, some of these guys kind of enjoy the hostile environments because it feels like a
02:50playoff atmosphere right out of the gate. And that's what I love about, you know, opening up
02:55in Philly. It felt like a playoff atmosphere in which, you know, a lot of our guys thrive in.
03:00You talked about Corey Seager, you know, a minute ago, 20 seconds ago. He's pretty good in the
03:05postseason, right? So I think that's why he thrives in those environments. And hopefully we can get
03:11that type of atmosphere here at home. I know since it's early in the season, these numbers can
03:15obviously swing pretty wildly, but 3.95 pitches per plate appearance thus far. What are your early
03:22thoughts on the team's plate discipline, which we know has been a staple of what you've discussed
03:27with the team? Yeah, we're trying to make it a point of emphasis. We're trying to scare guys
03:32outside the zone. And if you throw inside the strike zone, you know, there's going to be,
03:36you know, we're ready to go and ready to be on the attack. And I think the really good teams
03:40throughout the, you know, last whatever, 10 years of me being a coach and watching this thing is
03:46the really good teams do damage inside the strike zone and make you pay when you throw inside the
03:52strike zone. You know, we're trying to be that team. It's six games in. So, you know, it's a good
03:57start. You know, let's see where we're at after game 50, right? And hopefully
04:02we're still doing the same thing, but you know, it's, it's really good to watch these guys work
04:07and prepare in spring training. It's translated into the season so far. And by the way, we faced
04:13some really good arms. So it was a really good test to see if this thing was going to work
04:18and so far so good. But again, this is a marathon season, but I'd rather be starting out like this
04:24than not. Right. So it's, it's been a good, good way to start. Yeah, absolutely. And I know
04:28the idea is you got to take it game by game. I think we all understand that. But when you
04:33just mentioned like, Hey, what is it going to look like after 50 games? Are there certain
04:37marks in the season where you kind of can look at the bigger sample size and you're like,
04:42all right, in this chunk of 30 games or this chunk of 40 games, like, do you break that up,
04:46the season up at all that way?
04:49I do. I, I, I, but I break it up in 30 game chunks. So that's when I have, you
04:53know, like
04:53my, my staff meetings, um, uh, just making sure that we're on everything and nothing's
05:00missed, you know, what, you know, who's struggling, who's not struggling. How do we keep them
05:04hot? Um, you know, what are the tendencies? What, you know, it's kind of analytic meetings
05:09and trying to figure out what they're seeing, because when you're in the fight, uh, in the
05:13dugout and just trying to win every single day, you, you do miss certain details. And,
05:18um, and there might be some underlying numbers where if a guy is struggling, you can just tell
05:23them, Hey, you just keep doing the same thing and it's going to turn just, you know, just,
05:27you just keep doing the same thing where there's other guys who are, are hot where you're like,
05:31Oh man, you know, this, this, this might turn the other way too, but we got to figure this
05:36thing out, you know, pretty quick. So I think, uh, 30 game chunks is a good, um, marker to,
05:41to figure out, you know, what's going good and what's going bad.
05:44I like you talking about, uh, hot hitters. And, and when it comes to, uh, I remember
05:48Wash used to say with Nelson Cruz, when he's hitting doubles into the gaps, that's when you
05:53know that Nelson Cruz is in his zone right now. How do you see when you see guys, how do
05:57you know
05:58and recognize they're in, they're in their place right now? It feels like Berger was in it to start
06:02the season. Yeah. I think, you know, you see if guys are, um, hitting the ball hard, number one,
06:08uh, number two, the, the, uh, strike zone judgment, you know, what we've talked about,
06:13are they chasing, are they chasing hits? Are they chasing numbers or are they consumed with
06:19their process? And if I'm, I'm more, I'm watching guys and consumed with their process and not panic
06:25because of an over four over eight, um, and just see what the at bats look like. And that's,
06:30by the way, that's out of the bullpen. That's our starting rotation. That's defensively as well,
06:35you know, just kind of all watching everyone's processes. And maybe we can make, you know,
06:40certain tweaks here and there to make sure that, you know, we don't go in these peaks and valleys
06:44and make sure we're as consistent of a, of a baseball team as we can be. Um, so as far
06:48as the
06:49hitting side, um, hitting is hard, right? Like really, really hard. And we're going to face some
06:53guys that are not easy to face. And if we win, you know, one or two, nothing, that'd be, that'd
06:58be
06:58great. But, um, I do feel like just watching these guys process more than anything is going to be the
07:04separator. Rangers manager, Skip Schumacher, join us here on the KNC masterpiece. You're home of the
07:08Texas Rangers, one Oh five three, the fan. Uh, I see, uh, Jack Peterson in the DH role today. Uh,
07:14Andrew McCutcheon has been giving us some, some great stuff. We've really enjoyed what we see in
07:18the dugout. Uh, we hear about in the clubhouse too. Uh, but with Jack Peterson, as you talk about
07:23the confidence part of him, where do you feel his confidence is and how do you work him back to
07:28being that superior hitter? Yeah, we're going to need Jack to be good, right? We're going to need a lot
07:33of these guys to be good. If we're going to want to go to where we want to be, uh,
07:36want to get to.
07:37Um, so I, I think in six games, yeah, there's guys that have not started off where they, you know,
07:44they would love to all be hot right now. Right. That's just not the reality. If you look around
07:47the league, there's some really good players that just have not started out hot at all and have
07:52gotten or started out cold. Um, the good news is we've had some other guys pick up the slack
07:58to when they do get hot. We're going to be, you know, hopefully, um, running on all cylinders.
08:04And I, I do feel like Jack is close. Um, and the good news is Kutch has picked him up
08:10since he has
08:10not been, you know, off to a hot start, so to speak. Um, just like Duran has picked up, uh,
08:16JJ,
08:17you know, because he hasn't, you know, got off to a hot start. Um, so we'll need all these guys.
08:21Uh,
08:22that's why the bench is super valuable. And, you know, we have a, you know, probably six righties
08:26on this homestand. So, you know, looking forward to, to Jock, to get going, you know, on this
08:31homestand, because this is where he should, you know, get hot again with the six righty starters,
08:35potentially, uh, with Seattle and in Cincinnati. Yeah. We're open for that too. Skip, something
08:40happened in Baltimore that kind of, I was very curious from your perspective, how you might
08:45handle this down the road. Jack Leiter strikes somebody out. Uh, I think it was Hauser, uh,
08:50Couser, uh, strikes him out. And then they say, hold on, no, that wasn't a strikeout. And then he gives
08:55up
08:56a couple of hits and that inning kind of changed on him. How do you, how do you manage that?
09:00Because
09:01you get this exhilaration, this adrenaline from the strikeout, and then all of a sudden you,
09:05your psychology kind of changes. What's your, your feeling with that? You're talking about the ABS?
09:10Yes. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah. It's something that we're all working through. Uh, you know,
09:16I saw the other night, you know, just watching the highlights of a, a guy that, uh, struck out,
09:21um, and then ended up walking the next at bat as well. And so it's the same thing. Um, and
09:27then
09:27the, the inning got out of, out of hand. It's the same thing with us. We're all learning and trying
09:32to figure out on the offensive side, when to challenge, when not to challenge. I have not
09:36done a very good job of, of helping these guys and, and letting them know when that, uh, the right
09:41time to challenge is because at the beginning of the spring training, we said, do it only in leverage.
09:46Yeah. Well, there's not too many leveraged, uh, counts quite honestly. Um, you know, early in the
09:50game or, or, uh, leverage situations early in the game, they happen later. So now we've kind of
09:57pivoted to, you know, we trust our guys to, you know, make decisions. And then, uh, hopefully,
10:02you know, we have one left towards the end of the game for leverage, uh, as far as Jack and
10:06it's,
10:07uh, you know, these guys that are, you know, have the counts turned or, you know, walk into a
10:11strikeout or an out or whatever it is. Uh, I think it's all learning, uh, experience.
10:15It doesn't matter if it's a veteran or a guy like Jack. Um, but I think he'll get
10:19through it and, and we'll all get through it is more, the more we see the ABS thing
10:23work throughout the course of the year. Is your team also going to be keeping
10:27individual statistics on ABS challenges, much like there would be stats for any other
10:33number of things with the club? Yeah, I think, you know, there's numbers for
10:37everything right now, right? I mean, it's crazy. So, um, yeah, we have all the minor league
10:42stats from last year, uh, us and in the league, we have all the stats, uh, right now with each
10:48team, righties, lefties, high VLO, we have, uh, you know, whatever horizontal, you know,
10:54whatever the umpire is, uh, their hot zones, we have catchers, hot zones, and then we have
10:59our own, uh, you know, where are we good at? Are we good at the edges? Are we good at
11:03top?
11:04Are we good at the bottom? You know, that's when you will know whether or not you're right
11:08or not to challenge. Some guys don't, don't know what the inside part of the plate is.
11:12Some guys are really good on the outside part of the plate of knowing where the zone is.
11:15So giving them the ability to challenge because of where they feel comfortable
11:19in challenging because of their hot zones is crucial. And so we're, we're working through
11:24all that. It's new to everybody. Um, Oh, by the way, you got to hit 97, right? So with
11:29good slider, uh, Oh, and by the way, you have to remember to do it or not to do it.
11:33Uh, you
11:34know, so there's a lot going on. Um, and so we're, again, we're just trying to, to figure
11:38this thing out as we go. Well, we appreciate the time very much. Busy day. Best of luck
11:43today. And best of luck in these two home series. Appreciate you guys. Thanks for having
11:46me on. Absolutely. There you go. Texas Rangers manager, Skip Schumacher.
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