00:00So yesterday, I kind of went off on Mike Garofalo from the NFL Network because he said that Jerry Jones,
00:08and he did not suggest that he was joking,
00:11Jerry Jones said that George Pickens would save a lot of money if he got rid of his agent.
00:18Same thing, Micah Parsons not paying the commission fee, David Muligheta.
00:22Bobby said that three different reporters on the scene there at the owners' meetings told him this was a clear
00:31and obvious joke.
00:32So obviously, I'm going to go with that and proceed to trash Mike Garofalo a little bit by being an
00:39irresponsible reporter.
00:42Then yesterday, I saw Stephen A. Smith going off with what he thinks is a racial issue towards Jerry Jones,
00:50and I'm like, where's this daddy comic coming from?
00:55Not Jane Slater's drop, but where's this daddy mommy stuff?
00:59We didn't play any of that.
01:00I thought I saw all the audio.
01:02I went through all the video, and there was no daddy mommy.
01:06I finally saw it yesterday, and judge for yourself.
01:12There's no issue with me with talking to agents.
01:17I need to do a better job of not getting, well, daddy said I could have it.
01:26And him going to mama and mama saying, daddy said I could have it.
01:32We've got to get on the same page, and I have something to do with that as well.
01:35It always works out.
01:37If he worked without an agent, he'd save a lot of money.
01:41Do you anticipate going into it?
01:42With me.
01:43I watched it three times.
01:46I texted y'all.
01:48I said, I didn't see that typical Jerry smirk.
01:52I didn't see that chuckle.
01:54He had a serious face at the end of it.
01:57So right now as it stands internally, I feel like I may have to apologize to Mike Garofalo
02:02and go after the three different people who told Bobby Jerry was joking, because I challenge
02:09any of you to look at it, watch it, and tell me that he had his obvious, usual Jerry smirk
02:15and joke.
02:16So I actually, I was talking with Archer yesterday a little bit.
02:21First one to go after.
02:22No, because Todd isn't one who had, this was, Todd had thought it got reported wrong or gotten
02:30wrong coverage.
02:31And when I was talking to Todd, Todd was like, I don't, he's like, I don't think he was joking.
02:35He's like, that wasn't my biggest problem with it.
02:38Todd said he thought the bigger issue was that when you listen to everything that he's talking
02:44about, he wasn't referencing even Pickens specifically by that point, is that it was framed as if
02:50he was like jumping on Pickens when he was talking about historically how he does deals
02:55is that this is how you can do it.
02:56And mom and dad say this and different things like that.
02:59And so Archer said his biggest thing was that and that, but he said he didn't think he was
03:03joking.
03:03He said, it's just the same thing that he's always said.
03:05Yeah.
03:06So that would make me wrong.
03:07That's an oh for one for me.
03:09That doesn't make me feel better right now.
03:10That was not, yeah, I'm just saying Archer was not what I had talked to already on that
03:13one.
03:13Yeah.
03:13Well, the others apparently have a bad judgment.
03:16Yeah.
03:17Yeah.
03:18You are under no obligation to apologize.
03:20I'll give you a very simple reason why you were told that three people who were there
03:25said differently at the time of your statement, based on the information you had, you were
03:32in fact, correct.
03:33So and three sources, not even two.
03:37I got three.
03:37You went above and beyond the standard AP style book requirement of sources.
03:43So source off.
03:44So Danny, I think you're in the clear.
03:46Did any of the rest of you see it?
03:47No.
03:47Mm hmm.
03:48Okay.
03:49Where'd you see it?
03:50I went on first take and because I was like, Stephen A's reacting to this.
03:55So they must play the video.
03:56So go on first take and you can see the video.
03:59So trust me for a second.
04:01I got you.
04:02And assume that Jerry was being real.
04:06Was being true.
04:06Okay.
04:07Was being serious.
04:08Yes.
04:08It sounded like it there.
04:10And going down.
04:11He was he was serious.
04:12So Mike Garofalo for right now.
04:14My bad, man.
04:15I'm sorry.
04:16Maybe I'll delete.
04:17Blame them.
04:18Blame them.
04:21Why would we reopen this can again?
04:24Why are we going down this road again?
04:26It doesn't it doesn't it doesn't feel like a positive thing that Jerry would even go there
04:30again.
04:31I'll tell you why.
04:32They're not going to get an extension done and they already know it.
04:36He knows.
04:37So he's just.
04:37Why not?
04:38They I don't.
04:39I think they want to see it again.
04:41And so I think they're just at a point where they're like, no, I mean, we talked about
04:45this a couple weeks ago.
04:46They are on.
04:48Hey, we didn't even give him the exclusive tag.
04:50Y'all can come in here and give two first round picks if you want for him.
04:52And nobody's coming around to talk about him.
04:54Like, OK.
04:54All right.
04:55Well, we're going to let it be seen for another year.
04:57And so now the question is, is he going to play ball?
05:00Is he going to show up by week eight so that he can get a year on it?
05:04Or is he going to show up for offseason programs?
05:06Or is he going to hold out all the way till week one?
05:08And then you're just going to have to deal with that.
05:09I don't know how that's going to play out yet.
05:11But Stephen A., who had Mulligetta, Mulligetta went on first take.
05:15I think Stephen A. also said yesterday he's not showing up without a long term extension.
05:19So good luck with that.
05:20And that's the way I would expect them to play it.
05:23Yeah, I would, too.
05:23I hope he shows up.
05:25I hope he plays game one.
05:26But that's not Mulligetta's M.O.
05:29It's also typically not been his M.O.
05:32that when a player's entering the final year of his deal
05:34and he's traded somewhere, he allows his guy to play.
05:38And they did that last year.
05:40And so I think they've recognized, like, this is just my own, right?
05:44I'm not saying this is what David or George or whatever,
05:49that they've got this perspective.
05:50It's just more the way I look at that is that to me says that
05:54if they didn't make that big a fuss there,
05:56then they feel like, all right, we're going to,
05:57we got to prove something to you.
05:59Or at least they're going to be like, we'll show you.
06:01At the very least, there's a defined suit of just like,
06:03well, we'll show you.
06:04We'll be able to do this.
06:05And so they've been,
06:08they were willing to prove it last year more
06:11than other guys that he's had in the past have before.
06:14They typically have held out.
06:15And last year, they didn't do that.
06:16Let me play you the beginning of the clip again.
06:18And then I'll play you why Stephen A. Smith
06:20has such a problem with it.
06:22There's no issue with me with talking to agents.
06:27I need to do a better job of not getting,
06:33well, daddy said I could have it.
06:36And him going to mama and mama saying,
06:39daddy said I could have it.
06:41We've got to get on the same page.
06:43And I have something to do with that as well.
06:45It always works out.
06:47If he worked without an agent,
06:49he'd save a lot of money.
06:50Do you anticipate going into?
06:52With me.
06:53And I think he was serious.
06:55Stephen A. Smith.
06:56That does sound, yeah.
06:57Now I'm just saying,
06:57that does sound like a cut there.
06:59So again, I don't know if he's in the process of that,
07:02if he did.
07:02Because again, what Todd was saying yesterday
07:05was that he had not,
07:06he was not talking about Pickens there when he said that.
07:08And so that that wasn't totally accurate about it.
07:10But the first part of that on that,
07:14you know, daddy said this and mom said it.
07:15He has used that analogy a lot before.
07:19You know, it's interesting you say that, Bob.
07:20My kids do it to me every day.
07:21Because this was last year,
07:26Stephen A. Smith going to Frisco,
07:28the interview where Jerry blew up Micah Parsons
07:31and Stephen A. did his show,
07:33Texas Live, Michael Irvin, all that stuff.
07:35Stephen A., face-to-face with Jerry,
07:39heard the owner and GM of the Dallas Cowboys say this.
07:43In the spirit of not doing the old mother-dad deal,
07:48how many times have you seen the little rascal so clever go in there
07:53and mama told him, uh-uh, you're not going to get it.
07:56And goes in to daddy who only sees him after five and a half noon,
08:00wants to love him,
08:01and says, you can have it, son.
08:03You can have that before dinner.
08:05And he goes back in and says,
08:07mama, daddy said I could have it.
08:09That's the old mom, dad.
08:10Been around since the beginning of the time.
08:13I'm not going to go for that shit here.
08:14That's what's happening.
08:16You're not going for it.
08:17I'm not going for it.
08:18To Stephen A.'s face,
08:20made the analogy,
08:23said the exact same thing,
08:24right there in front of him,
08:27in Frisco at the Star,
08:29Ford Center.
08:30And then Stephen A. Smith yesterday
08:32decided to react like this
08:34to Jerry's comment a couple days ago.
08:37I'm very disturbed
08:38by what Jerry Jones said.
08:41I'm going to call him.
08:42I'm going to go see him if I can.
08:44You know, if he will allow me to.
08:46Because I'm not comfortable
08:47with what words I just heard
08:50come out of Jerry Jones' mouth.
08:52Look at the reporters behind him.
08:54Look at their faces
08:55when you brought up daddy.
08:57Come on now.
08:59I mean, that's a very,
09:00very uncomfortable thing.
09:01I love me some Jerry Jones.
09:03Everybody knows that.
09:04Everybody knows that's my guy.
09:05I don't like that.
09:07I don't like that at all.
09:08That's incredibly uncomfortable to say.
09:10And I know what he meant
09:11in terms of a player talking to him
09:14and coming to him
09:15and saying,
09:16I want X, Y, and Z.
09:17And then going back to his agent
09:20and then all of a sudden,
09:21you know what?
09:21It's a different ballgame.
09:22That's what he said about Micah Parsons.
09:24He had a conversation
09:25with Micah Parsons
09:26and Micah Parsons said one thing to him.
09:28And then after going to his agent,
09:29David Moologueta,
09:30he comes back with a different spin
09:32on it all.
09:33And Jerry Jones was really turned off
09:34about it.
09:35And to use his words,
09:36I don't play that bleep.
09:37That's what he said
09:38when he came on my radio show.
09:40Here's the issue.
09:42Daddy, mommy,
09:44Jerry Jones,
09:44watch your mouth.
09:46Come on, man.
09:46You better than that.
09:47Watch it.
09:48Because that comes across
09:49as very, very wrong.
09:51And when you're talking
09:52about black players,
09:53you know how that's going
09:54to be perceived.
09:55That comes across
09:56as very, very wrong,
09:57highly insensitive.
09:58You don't need to be using
09:59that verbiage.
10:00That's number one.
10:02He made the analogy.
10:04I could maybe see,
10:06maybe see if Stephen A
10:08had never heard Jerry
10:10use that type of analogy
10:13and story before.
10:14He did it right in front
10:15of your face
10:16and you said nothing.
10:18You were right there
10:19and you kept your mouth shut.
10:21And now you want to sit there
10:23in Bristol, Connecticut
10:24and pop off
10:25and throw out
10:26all these feelings
10:28and allegations
10:29towards Jerry
10:30when you heard
10:31the way he used it himself
10:33on Micah last year.
10:34Come on, man.
10:35Get out of here.
10:36You said yourself.
10:37Watch your mouth.
10:37He said himself.
10:38I know what he meant.
10:39Well, if you know what he meant,
10:40then it didn't mean
10:41what you think,
10:42what you're insinuating
10:42that he meant by it.
10:44It's trying to say
10:45the way it's going to come across,
10:46I guess,
10:47to other black people.
10:49Okay.
10:49I mean,
10:50is he saying that
10:51for the analogy in general
10:53or specifically daddy?
10:56Because on both of those instances,
10:57the way it sounded to me
10:59is that in Jerry's analogy,
11:00he was saying daddy was the agent.
11:03Like definitely with Stephen A
11:04it sounded that way
11:05and the other one,
11:07you don't hear that.
11:08I like, I don't know.
11:09So what's his,
11:09is his issue,
11:10is his issue the analogy
11:11in general?
11:12It's the term.
11:13It's the term.
11:14Like daddy's here.
11:15Daddy decides to pay you.
11:17Daddy is the owner.
11:18Daddy's in control.
11:19And so if that's his complaint about it,
11:21I think in both instances
11:22in the analogy,
11:23Jerry has said daddy is the agent.
11:25Where he's going,
11:27daddy said I could have this.
11:28And then you go,
11:29well, that's not what mama said.
11:31Mama said he's calling himself mama
11:33is what it is.
11:34It's also an analogy
11:35that you don't take literally.
11:36He's just using this as an example.
11:38He goes,
11:38we've seen what this happens.
11:40And we see this every day.
11:43Every day,
11:43somebody goes to mom or dad.
11:45And my kids do this to me all the time.
11:47You know,
11:48can I get this bat
11:49or can I get this?
11:50Well,
11:50ask your mother.
11:50Well,
11:50she said,
11:51ask you.
11:52Okay.
11:52You know,
11:53it's not like breaking news.
11:55None of us are African-American.
11:56So we can't sit there
11:58and Stephen A would sit here
11:59if we were at the Super Bowl
12:00and he would,
12:01he would say,
12:02with all due respect,
12:04you guys,
12:05you guys can't have
12:07the,
12:08the actual full authentic opinion
12:10that you don't know how it feels.
12:11You haven't been through it
12:12and you don't have those experiences.
12:15I,
12:16I,
12:16I hear that.
12:18You know,
12:19I just can't.
12:20I can't,
12:21I can't side with Stephen A still.
12:23I like it.
12:24It,
12:25it sounds like a,
12:25a,
12:27a really extreme overreaction.
12:29Look,
12:29and if,
12:31if that's the case
12:32and he were to say,
12:33Hey,
12:33the analogy in general
12:34is a disrespectful
12:35and you can't make it.
12:36Then be like,
12:36all right.
12:36I mean,
12:37that's how you feel.
12:38And you,
12:38and there are other people
12:38who feel that way.
12:40That's fine.
12:40If again,
12:41specifically,
12:41he doesn't like
12:43the specific analogy
12:44of the gendered one.
12:46And that,
12:46well,
12:47then I think you've heard it wrong
12:48twice now.
12:49And the other thing is,
12:51you didn't have,
12:51like you said,
12:52you didn't have a snap reaction
12:53when he said it directly
12:54across from me.
12:54I like,
12:54I was just looking here.
12:55I think,
12:55I think Bayless has said this
12:58across from Stephen A before,
13:00has said that Jerry's too much
13:01a daddy Jerry to these players
13:03or whatever.
13:03And Stephen A didn't react to that.
13:06So I don't know.
13:08Yeah.
13:09Feels like he's drum,
13:10drumming up a little something
13:13that I,
13:14I don't think is there.
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