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00:00We really hope that we get to the truth because there are some stories that never seem to end.
00:06like those of Manuela Orlandi and Mirella Gregori.
00:09By now you all know, the bones of the annunciation are of a man, they are old, they are neither of Mirella nor
00:15by Emanuela.
00:16But we went back to those days and look, we found, we discovered something important.
00:22We learned from Federica, Emanuela's older sister, that she too had been contacted by a man,
00:28a certain Felix who had offered her a job, just as happened to her sister Emanuela before disappearing.
00:36Who is Felix? Today, thanks to you, our viewers, we know a little more about him.
00:42But first, the meeting between Federica Orlandi and this mysterious man.
00:48Before Emanuela disappeared, I was approached by this person who later told me his name was Felix.
00:55I was on the bus and he stopped me and asked me if I was interested in being an extra in a movie they were shooting in
01:03Civita Vecchia,
01:05The last days of Pompeii.
01:08They would have paid 100,000 euros a day.
01:11100,000 lire?
01:12100,000 lire, yes, 100,000 lire a day.
01:15So there's a man named Felix who approaches Federica Orlandi.
01:20Then there is another man who approaches Emanuela Orlandi, this time a few hours before her disappearance.
01:26And Federica is a witness to this fact because Emanuela Orlandi calls home because she wants to ask permission from her
01:32mom.
01:34I was at home, Emanuela called because she wanted to talk to mum, because she told me that while she was going to the
01:45music school
01:46She had been stopped by a man who was an Avon representative and asked her if she was interested in doing
01:55this leaflet distribution work,
01:59to promote Avon and they would have given her a compensation of around 300,000 lire, I think it was said.
02:07Of course I told her that 300,000 lire seemed truly impossible to me that they could give her for a day's work.
02:15Work,
02:17even if it was in a fashion show, even if it was a prestigious place.
02:25And nothing, that's how the phone call ended because she wanted to ask her mom's permission to do this little job.
02:34The only thing she told me was that this person would wait outside the school to find out if she accepted or not.
02:42to do it.
03:12He stared at me right away.
03:15From the moment I got on the bus he was staring at me, smiling at me, taking me out.
03:22The films he sent you, what films were they?
03:24Porn movies.
03:25I know he's a real sick maniac.
03:28The name is Felix, when I heard it I got goosebumps, so many soccacate girls.
03:33He was right there at the university selecting, choosing very young and penniless university girls.
03:45Felix, a name you never forget.
03:48After our service, many of you called us.
03:51Women, but not only, stopped on the street, on the bus, or at the bar.
03:55All with that name in mind.
03:57Felix, the recruiter.
03:59The same man who approached Federica Orlandi before her sister Emanuela disappeared.
04:06He stopped me and asked me if I was interested in being an extra in a film they were shooting in Civita Vecchia.
04:14The last days of Pompeii.
04:17They would have paid 100,000 euros a day.
04:20100,000 lire?
04:21100,000 lire, yes, 100,000 lire a day.
04:26And nothing, he insisted a little that I do this kind of work,
04:32but obviously I didn't accept it, but he wanted to leave me his phone number.
04:38So I wrote it down on a piece of paper and he told me his name was Felix,
04:42who was a film agent who also worked as an extra
04:46and that his job was also to look for extras for films.
04:53For some girls, the meeting with the recruiter was a real shock,
04:57a terrible feeling that will never go away.
05:00As it happened to her, our designer.
05:03He comes to the editorial office and tries to jot something down.
05:06because he never forgot that face.
05:14He started telling me, ah but what beautiful legs,
05:17these legs need to, yes, like, they need to be made to do something,
05:22you have to exploit them, you have to push them, you have to, yes, I really remember to push,
05:27I'm a film producer, I put them on TV, I'm doing this show.
05:32He really bothered me because he didn't put his hands on me.
05:37he still managed to make himself very perverse,
05:41really disgusting because he was staring at me with a look,
05:47I don't even know how to describe it, it's surreal, it was too much, too much.
05:53The identikit is finished, here he is, it's the mysterious Felix,
05:58the Polish man, cunning and cynical who has lived and wandered around Rome for decades,
06:02luring young people and promising work, money and fame.
06:06What really impressed me was his eyes because they were very small,
06:11made very small by these very thick lenses.
06:17Now let's compare it with the identikit drawn by the policeman Sambuco
06:21that the day of Emanuele Orlandi's disappearance
06:23he was on duty in front of the Senate a few meters from the Basilica of Santa Polinare.
06:28The policeman Sambuco saw the girl talking to a man
06:31and he made the identikit, this one.
06:35No, it doesn't seem like they're the same person, in fact they're completely different.
06:41But let's keep following Felix, because who knows, he might lead us to the other recruiter.
06:47This young Polish girl knows very well who Felix is,
06:50She too took courage and wanted to give her testimony.
06:54When she arrives in Italy she is just one of the many illegal girls
06:58in search of a better life.
07:00She was lucky, two of her friends were not.
07:04I actually made it, but it could have ended very badly, because I was right there.
07:08We Poles always stayed in dark shops under the Polish church
07:15or to the Vatican, because John Paul was still there.
07:19So it was our hangout.
07:21And this Felix was often there, or at least he hung around the Vatican.
07:26He observed, he looked, he turned.
07:29And he was often with two people who told me
07:32that these are Italians, because he collaborated with Italians.
07:37I personally met a couple of girls
07:40which ended up in his hands, which then escaped.
07:44A girl who ended up down south told
07:48that she was actually sold to someone who raped her every day.
07:53She was peing herself when we met her there again.
07:59I mean, he was scared, I won't forget it for a bit, he has fear in his eyes.
08:04And another one was locked up for two months.
08:07in a villa, he said, a house, a villa in Rome.
08:11In Rome?
08:11In Rome, yes.
08:12Who said they wanted to make me a porn movie,
08:15but she didn't want to talk anymore, she too took her place and immediately returned to Poland.
08:20I'm sure that there are many who know it, because it was known,
08:24that period was known.
08:25He also took photographs, do you remember?
08:27Yes, it was said that he was a photographer for a period of time.
08:33So, a girl sold and raped,
08:35another was held captive in a villa in Rome, raped and photographed.
08:39Is Felix the architect of all this horror?
08:45The two young women return to Poland hoping to forget.
08:49Others didn't make it.
08:51For example, Alfredo didn't make it.
08:53A young Roman who thought he was just handing out flyers,
08:56that's what Felix had told him,
08:58instead he is drugged and photographed during sexual intercourse
09:01and those photos published in a pornographic magazine.
09:05Too much shame and the boy kills himself.
09:09Tiziana, on the other hand, was luckier.
09:11She is a young university student who has just arrived in Rome
09:14when he meets Felix in a bar in the San Lorenzo neighborhood
09:17who suggests that she make films.
09:19I told him I had never experienced anything like this.
09:22and his answer was quite cryptic
09:26because he told me that it was not necessary to have studied acting,
09:31that I had nice breasts, I had a nice butt,
09:35so I could easily do that job.
09:38I started to distance myself, to say that it was absolutely not something that interested me.
09:44and he became verbally aggressive
09:47and he told me that I was not able to recognize luck,
09:53to seize opportunities on the fly,
09:56that I regretted that thing
09:58because I was being given a great opportunity to profoundly change my life,
10:04that I could have continued studying peacefully,
10:07but in the atere I could have earned all this money.
10:12Felix presents himself well, often arriving with a big car and a driver,
10:17deceives, deceives and exploits many young people.
10:19But how does Felix, a Polish citizen, manage to move around Rome so well?
10:24in a city that isn't his?
10:26Does he work alone? Or is there someone else behind it?
10:29One of our viewers tells us that as a boy, in the early 1980s,
10:34he worked as an extra at Cinecittà and remembers Felix.
10:38Felix seemed to be at home in Cinecittà ,
10:41he always entered and exited the studios with his big car and driver.
10:45Everyone knew him and everyone knew that he was looking for actors for porn films.
10:49But was it that easy back then to get a pass to enter Cinecittà by car?
10:58We don't know where Felix is ​​at the moment,
11:01You can imagine it because otherwise we would have already looked for it together with you.
11:05But you will all ask yourselves,
11:06but at the time Felix was stopped, he was questioned about the disappearance of Manuela Orlandi,
11:11since he had contacted his sister a few days before Manuela's disappearance?
11:18Well yes, he denies everything and exits the scene,
11:21because the trail goes somewhere else, it goes to the grey wolves, to Aliak Cha and so on.
11:27But we know that that day Felix, the day he was interrogated,
11:32he was very nervous.
11:33How do we know?
11:34From a friend of his, he also gets involved,
11:37He too was questioned and his house was searched.
11:40Let's hear it.
11:44One of the first people to be questioned and searched
11:47it's what in Rome is called Erbibitaro,
11:50the man who sells ice cream and soft drinks at the cinema.
11:52We met him.
11:55They searched my house,
11:57then they took me away to the station in Via Inselci.
12:00When they searched your house, did they take anything away?
12:03Yes, they took something away.
12:05There was a recording, there was paper money.
12:14On this paper money there was just a little vase about the Carabinieri.
12:20What do they ask you?
12:22But a policeman...
12:27He started saying that...
12:33That even girls, that little girls can be exciting too.
12:41I said no,
12:44even if it's not the truth,
12:48because girls are exciting.
12:51Anyway I answered no,
12:56since we are talking about the Carabinieri,
12:57you can't show that...
13:00But the question is whether you like girls,
13:03did they only do it to her or did they do it to Felix too?
13:05They did it to him first and then to me.
13:09Teenage girls, not little girls,
13:10teenagers, minors, in short.
13:13But it's not a question everyone asks.
13:15Why did they ask you this question?
13:17But maybe they were referring to Emanuele Orlandi,
13:20how old was he?
13:2115.
13:21And precisely because perhaps they suspected Felix,
13:24but I said it before,
13:25they were groping in the dark.
13:27So they're involving her in such a big story?
13:31I would have been happy, in fact, to be involved.
13:35So, when one has done nothing,
13:38he becomes famous without having done anything,
13:40he must be happy.
13:41You are so innocent,
13:43because you can't know that you are innocent.
13:45But how did the investigators get to him?
13:47Why do they decide to question him?
13:49Not only that, but also to search his house,
13:52thinking he might be hiding something about Emanuele Orlandi.
13:55Investigators start from the statements of some girls
13:59who talk about the meeting they had with Felix,
14:02among which there is also that of Federica Orlandi.
14:04She also says that they exchange phone numbers.
14:09So you left him your home number?
14:11Yes, and he gave me his.
14:14That number, however, is not registered in his name.
14:16It appears to have been the telephone number of a bar.
14:19However, the investigators reach Felix
14:22and it is among his seized things
14:24that the name of the Bibitaro, his friend, pops up.
14:27Both are taken to the barracks and questioned.
14:31And the Drink Seller, after the interrogation, meets Felix.
14:34Then I met Felix,
14:36but I don't know if there, I don't remember if I met them there
14:38that was coming out.
14:40And we said goodbye.
14:41Felix was quite nervous.
14:45And why?
14:47But they had, he told me,
14:49Afterwards he told me that they had threatened to torture him,
14:52that they would have forced him to speak,
14:54but it was a lef, of course,
14:56they didn't do anything to him.
14:58But he was nervous when he left the interrogation.
15:01Yes, he was nervous.
15:03Let's go back to look at our identikits.
15:06This is Felix's.
15:09The other, however,
15:10the one drawn by the policeman Sambuco,
15:12he is still an unknown.
15:14Over time,
15:15we compared it
15:16with the face of Enrico De Pedis,
15:18called Renatino,
15:19the bandit of the Magliana gang.
15:22Now, however,
15:23let's go back to Felix's friend
15:24and we try again.
15:26Maybe he knows the man in these identikits.
15:29The man who offered the job to Emanuele Orlandi
15:32before disappearing.
15:33No.
15:37But what's the name?
15:38No.
15:38I haven't seen it anyway.
15:40But did you choose all of them?
15:43I didn't see it,
15:44all ugly.
15:47I haven't seen it.
15:50Are you unfamiliar with the messenger?
15:51No, no, I see him staring at me,
15:53but I haven't seen it.
15:55But does it look a bit like you?
15:56Not to me, no,
15:57it's uglier.
15:59Look.
16:01No, it doesn't look like me.
16:03So it's not you?
16:05No, no, no.
16:06But how am I not,
16:07It's not me.
16:08No, but what did it seem like to us?
16:09that in reality there was a similarity.
16:11Because this seemed like a resemblance.
16:12But no, it's ugly.
16:13It's crude.
16:15He's involved in something.
16:18Well,
16:20theoretically
16:20he is the last person
16:21to have spoken
16:22with Emanuele Orlandi.
16:23Nothing less.
16:24If I knew her,
16:25I would say so,
16:25It would be a duty, right?
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