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00:00:06When the bomb exploded, you know, led to the arrest and so on, you hadn't really managed
00:00:12to track down your topless, physically speaking, right? I mean, my understanding is we were
00:00:16planning the last stage of how to pick this guy up and had found a way in to him through
00:00:24his
00:00:24family relatives. So I think, you know, we were on the cusp of knowing exactly how to arrest him,
00:00:30basically, or how to get the Greeks to arrest him. And you had sort of a sense of who the
00:00:35killers
00:00:35were and so on amid the rest of the crowd? I think it was just a matter of putting together
00:00:39the last elements. I don't discuss the detail of MI6 operations usually, but I understand that it's
00:00:45quite an inventive scenario had been put together in order to arrest them. Could you say anything
00:00:50more about the inventive way you were thinking of arresting them? I think that's a bit tricky.
00:00:55But we had a plan, which, let's say, involved the Orthodox Church a little bit.
00:01:25What?
00:01:27I'm not sure what you're doing here.
00:01:31But we're gonna get an end of this time.
00:01:41You didn't know what that was next to me, or what that was next to me or what that was
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00:01:47You didn't know why you were thinking of it.
00:01:50Everyone, who's sick or anything, were you watching the Orthodox Church?
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00:17:35From the front of them, I found out the details of their work in Athens,
00:17:40Vudza 40 Vironas, and then I found out all of them.
00:17:45There was the first time the details of the owner of Michael.
00:17:49At that time, we realized that the thing is very difficult.
00:17:56In the small village of Lipson, the new emperor Socrates Schiássius.
00:18:02I brought the Socrates, and I said,
00:18:05I said, Socrates, can you have taken your hand or your hand?
00:18:10Someone, Mr. Michael, is tall, has a great deal, etc.
00:18:14So, Socrates replied with me,
00:18:16I said, yes, Mr. Archive, I saw you today.
00:18:19I said, listen to me.
00:18:22This thing I want to tell you is very strong.
00:18:23You will follow him immediately from close.
00:18:27You will follow me.
00:18:29You will follow me.
00:18:30You will follow me.
00:18:33I talk to some of you and I can learn
00:18:35that he had taken care of,
00:18:37so he would leave me.
00:18:40I said,
00:18:41immediately,
00:18:44with two ambitious,
00:18:46and a team,
00:18:48and a team,
00:18:49to move there.
00:18:51On the 18th of November,
00:18:53we were able to join.
00:18:54It was not an easy issue.
00:18:57It was not an easy issue.
00:18:58We knew what we were going to do with the phone.
00:18:59I took a phone to the Pentagon,
00:19:01and I said,
00:19:04I said,
00:19:05he wouldn't have the power of a helicopter
00:19:07in a rapid hour.
00:19:09We thought about it.
00:19:10We thought,
00:19:11we didn't have to do it.
00:19:13We thought about it.
00:19:14We thought about it.
00:19:14We thought about it.
00:19:16We thought about it.
00:19:17We are going to take a look at the preservation of the electronic helicopter.
00:19:22But I thought that this helicopter was not going to be able to fight against the president of the Delfini.
00:19:31I took the representative of the Australian Department of the United States.
00:19:35What do you mean?
00:19:37Mr. Figueroa.
00:19:39He was laughing at the same time.
00:19:41He was laughing at the same time.
00:19:43Yes, Mr. Figueroa.
00:19:44What is the name of my name?
00:19:46Okay, I'm sorry.
00:19:47How did you get there?
00:19:50I said, I have one close.
00:19:52There are other three
00:19:54who are in the sea now.
00:19:56I said, look at them,
00:19:58because in about 20 days
00:20:00the Delfini is coming from there
00:20:02for a long time.
00:20:04You will be able to get there.
00:20:05You will be able to get there,
00:20:06and you will be able to get there.
00:20:09You can understand now
00:20:11that you will see
00:20:13the Delfini coming
00:20:14and you will be able to get there.
00:20:18We had a photo,
00:20:20because we had 10 minutes for the time.
00:20:23I was able to get there.
00:20:24I got the atomic bomb,
00:20:25I took the bomb,
00:20:28and I got the bomb,
00:20:28and we went through the bomb,
00:20:32and we were able to get the Delfini.
00:20:34We were always able to get the escape.
00:20:38But we were able to find out
00:20:39who we are,
00:20:39and we didn't have a photo.
00:20:43We didn't have a photo.
00:20:44The passengers of the Leru
00:20:45are waiting for the last time
00:20:46to get the Delfini.
00:20:47They are being able to get there
00:20:48without the signs of the Delfini.
00:20:52I am aware of the kids
00:20:53who were already in the Delfini.
00:20:55They are waiting for the Delfini.
00:20:59I am ready to get there.
00:20:59I am waiting for the attention.
00:21:01I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:05I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:07I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:11I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:12I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:15I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:17I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:21I am waiting for the Delfini.
00:21:22I have this.
00:21:23We would get to go behind his clothing.
00:21:25And then...
00:21:26...we were gathered.
00:21:28I was at a time, I was at a time, and I was at a time...
00:21:31...we had to remember what was happening that we were all over the time.
00:21:36The head of my head is a trap.
00:21:37Very very angry, very violent and serious responsibility.
00:21:42When I was the man who lived in my life, I didn't make any sense.
00:21:46I didn't notice my job.
00:21:49the
00:21:50dolphin
00:21:51is
00:21:53with the eyes
00:21:54with the Socrati
00:21:56showing them
00:21:57all the way up
00:22:00and the hands
00:22:01we're trying to get him
00:22:03and we're trying to get him
00:22:05and ask him
00:22:09and I say
00:22:09to the station
00:22:14He brings the manager to the phone and tells him that he is the manager, we have him.
00:22:20By the start of the meeting, he becomes a scientific experiment.
00:22:23During the period of the scientific experiment,
00:22:25in the back of the window of his hand,
00:22:27there was a possibility of a plastic,
00:22:29made with a light paper.
00:22:31We opened the Shokua Gias and he had a British degree
00:22:35with other features of this possibility.
00:22:3820-25 small photos of the type of material or dignity
00:22:43who were affected by different ages and different characteristics.
00:22:48If you remember, at the moment he had hygiene,
00:22:49my hair, my hair, my hair,
00:22:51more small or more.
00:22:52These were different.
00:22:53A agenda with Greek and Greek names
00:22:58if you remember, the amount of 2600 euros.
00:23:01What was the name of the title?
00:23:03Michaelis O'Konomi, Dmitriou.
00:23:05I asked him to give the value of the value of the owner.
00:23:11The owner.
00:23:12I was given him and I gave him a copy of the computer,
00:23:16I was given to him.
00:23:18He was given me three minutes.
00:23:19He said he was given.
00:23:20The value of the value of the woman is close to me.
00:23:25I was given him and I was given him to me and I said,
00:23:28I have a manager.
00:23:31In the air, the air is expected to be in the air.
00:23:35We were also in the station and in the house of Paineau.
00:23:41With the air out of the air?
00:23:43Yes, yes, the air is the air.
00:23:44We didn't know if there were others together.
00:23:46We put him in a cafe, with his hands back to the table,
00:23:53and we were sitting with the chair.
00:23:54The architect says,
00:23:56He said, listen, don't fall and take any fuel, all of you have to get rid of it.
00:24:01He said, don't fall.
00:24:03Yes, and I gave him from the roof here, in the car, and from the legs.
00:24:10And how did he get rid of it? Did he get rid of it?
00:24:13He got rid of it. He didn't expect it.
00:24:16But only when he got rid of it the day that he gave us the information,
00:24:20he said something.
00:24:21What did he say? For Samo and, of course, for Turkey.
00:24:25That would be true.
00:24:26When we learned it, we said that it's impossible.
00:24:30It's not possible.
00:24:31He had been here as a citizen of Michalis,
00:24:35and as a consultant, he said he did great lessons for students.
00:24:43He was a man who, from the first sight, was very friendly,
00:24:48he was always walking, especially with someone who had made some shoes.
00:24:52When they needed to go to a medical school in Athens,
00:24:58to get them to their home, it helped people.
00:25:01I'll tell you, we fell off the shadows,
00:25:03because what was shown here was a direct answer
00:25:08from what he did as an architect of the organization.
00:25:12Was there anything in the house?
00:25:14He told us that from the time that he had shot at the hospital,
00:25:19until the 17th of the hospital,
00:25:21he got out of the house and went on the way.
00:25:24Because the house was on the wall,
00:25:25on the other side, he got out of the house,
00:25:28and he went on the other side,
00:25:29and he went on the other side and went on the other side.
00:25:31The members of the International Council and the E.C.A.M. are in the Middle East.
00:25:37I went to the Lipset station and I was in a car like that.
00:25:43There was a place called Alex.
00:25:46I said to him, hello, Lampro.
00:25:50He said to me, hello, Lampro, what do you mean this?
00:25:53I said to him, hello, Alex.
00:25:56You are a Neckos.
00:25:59I'm a Muslim king of the Panhanda.
00:26:02He told me and if you don't, are you from the next to us.
00:26:06We're going to see that in a few hours you're in Guadagnamo.
00:26:09We're going to see that you'll see an German fight.
00:26:16Let me say that the Greatest situation started.
00:26:17I wanted to summarize a serious conversation.
00:26:20From different scenarios of the pro-analytic research,
00:26:24He started to create an image of a man who was a leader of the organization and a writer of
00:26:31its descendants.
00:26:32His first scene was to be afraid of us, in a way, that he had knowledge and relationships,
00:26:41with a high level of support, political, and he didn't know why he was there, he didn't have any relationship.
00:26:48And when I came to the library, I remember that it was the Megha.
00:26:55And it had an accident from Washington.
00:26:57The photo of the Giotopoulos said that the State Department wanted to ask the exhibition of the Giotopoulos.
00:27:05And when I came back, I said,
00:27:07I said, you're the first company in all the channels.
00:27:10I said, what is it? What happened?
00:27:13He said, this and this.
00:27:14And what do you say?
00:27:15He said, will you give me your attention?
00:27:18I said, look at him, where did he come from?
00:27:22He said, what happened to the Americans?
00:27:22It was a thing that he made me a message as a psychological facility.
00:27:29He said, what is the name of the Giotopoulos?
00:27:39He said, what he is the name of the Giotopoulos?
00:27:54and already the fact that he was able to do that with the accusations that they had
00:28:00in the 13th of November of the 18th of September of 1984.
00:28:05The president of Aléxanthros Viotopoulos was invited to the member of the president of the A.R.
00:28:10That's right.
00:28:11You can't say that.
00:28:16You don't want to be able to say that.
00:28:19I was invited to Viotopoulos in the description of the Central Democratic Republic.
00:28:24He was in a bank.
00:28:26He was using an award,
00:28:28which has written by the K. Papachilas
00:28:30in the 17th of November,
00:28:33which, according to my opinion,
00:28:35says all of them.
00:28:37The two archives
00:28:40of the state
00:28:41and the 17th of November
00:28:43has been over 27 years.
00:28:47The Alexander Giotopoulos
00:28:49has failed
00:28:50but,
00:28:51however,
00:28:52from the circumstances of the 17th of November
00:28:54has been involved
00:28:56in the 17th of November
00:28:59and, in addition,
00:29:00with the executive role.
00:29:02More than that,
00:29:06from the 17th of November,
00:29:07who have reported
00:29:09that he is the person
00:29:12with the name of the LAMBRO
00:29:14and the executive of the 17th of November.
00:29:21from the 17th of October,
00:29:37of the 14th of November,
00:29:38the 17th of November,
00:29:39the 18th of November,
00:29:39and the 18th of November
00:29:40was not to get caught
00:29:41by the 18th of November,
00:29:44We found out that he didn't have a number of protection and decided to make a hit.
00:29:52We waited for him and when he turned around with his wife,
00:29:56along with a schedule, we went with his car from his car.
00:30:02He was stuck with his car and he was able to get his car.
00:30:05And we, from the back of the car at Wells,
00:30:08we were waiting for him to take care of his car.
00:30:12For this reason, Lambrus had brought us up with a rifle.
00:30:18Finally, when he was finished with his car,
00:30:21Lambrus ran away from his car,
00:30:23and ran away from 2 to 3 meters from the Wells.
00:30:37Alexander Giotopoulos didn't even know his role in the 17th November
00:30:40and supported him that he had sent me an escape from the ambulance
00:30:43and other agencies,
00:30:44as he said,
00:30:45in a recent interview,
00:30:47in the newspaper of Yianna Papadakou,
00:30:49in 2005.
00:30:50The majority of the officers worked open with the agencies
00:30:54in order to be able to fly.
00:30:56The agencies told us that
00:30:58with the officers,
00:30:59we could be able to deliver many times
00:31:01to be able to fly for 20 years.
00:31:04If, however, you are working,
00:31:06and regardless of whether you have the same practice,
00:31:08if you help us,
00:31:10we will be able to collect them
00:31:11at the police station
00:31:11against the entire police station,
00:31:15giving us a lot of information
00:31:16to be able to deliver,
00:31:19as we believe,
00:31:20then things change.
00:31:22You will be able to get rid of the police
00:31:23and you will be able to fly for 2-3 years.
00:31:25In the police station,
00:31:26Yianna Papadakou is confronted with the Christodoulos.
00:31:36And when the police is afraid to know him,
00:31:42then the Christodoulos
00:31:44will be able to fly
00:31:46and tell all the theories
00:31:48that he has taken over his position.
00:31:51And I say,
00:31:52Christodoulos,
00:31:53we will see if
00:31:55the one who will see
00:31:56is the man,
00:31:57is the man,
00:31:57and he will be able to get him.
00:31:58And I say,
00:31:59I will put the police station
00:32:00from here,
00:32:00because it was a 50-60 meters
00:32:02all the way
00:32:03of the police station
00:32:04where he had to go.
00:32:05No,
00:32:06he said,
00:32:06I don't need it.
00:32:07I have the purpose of you.
00:32:08You have to do it.
00:32:09He said,
00:32:10And when we reach 2 meters
00:32:12before we go to the door,
00:32:16I said,
00:32:16what do you want?
00:32:18He said,
00:32:19I don't want to go to the police station.
00:32:21He said,
00:32:22I can't wait to see the police station.
00:32:24I said,
00:32:24I can't wait to see the police station.
00:32:25After I read the police station,
00:32:27I saw the police station
00:32:28and saw the one to the other
00:32:28what happened,
00:32:29what happened,
00:32:30what happened.
00:32:32What were the words
00:32:32that were wrong?
00:32:37I didn't say.
00:32:38I can't explain
00:32:40that until the end of the time
00:32:41of the people
00:32:42that the people of the people
00:32:43were failing.
00:32:43When the people
00:32:45who were working
00:32:46next to them
00:32:47and were
00:32:48experts
00:32:49of the police station,
00:32:51they realized
00:32:52and described
00:32:53their actions.
00:32:54Can I ask you
00:32:55how many people
00:32:56knew
00:32:57that they were
00:32:57for example,
00:32:58and didn't they?
00:32:59Yes,
00:33:00I believe
00:33:00that the people
00:33:02of their generation,
00:33:04of their social family,
00:33:06I believe
00:33:07that they knew.
00:33:08They didn't know
00:33:09exactly
00:33:09their actions
00:33:12but they knew
00:33:14that they would
00:33:15that they would
00:33:16hide their actions.
00:33:17Did they come after
00:33:18to tell you
00:33:18that they were
00:33:20I knew.
00:33:21They came after
00:33:22later.
00:33:23But they didn't know
00:33:24what they were
00:33:25specific,
00:33:26or what they did.
00:33:28And the people who had been friends of Giotopoulos were friends of Giotopoulos and others.
00:33:34How were these discussions?
00:33:36I didn't want to talk about it.
00:33:39Since the Giotopoulos arrived, two or three people to tell me that they knew that Giotopoulos was in the Nisaki,
00:33:48or that he changed his name, or anything else.
00:33:51They thought that they were predators, or that they were dangerous.
00:33:56It was interesting to me.
00:34:00I saw a child's friend and said that Giotopoulos had eaten with the Giotopoulos at the Giotopoulos.
00:34:11This was terrible.
00:34:13He had eaten with the man who was in the same time.
00:34:16He had been killed by the Giotopoulos.
00:34:46He had been killed by the Giotopoulos.
00:35:01He had been killed by the Giotopoulos.
00:35:10He had been killed by the Giotopoulos at the Giotopoulos and said that Giotopoulos is a rape.
00:35:40To Americanoshia Roland Stuart with a mis-perged car-1 in the 1991,
00:35:47Wegedokissie Rucquetas in the administrations of the Mads with one and seven on the 19th of 1991,
00:35:54Yim 새로운 people with the Tremonians in the 20th of 1991,
00:36:02Wegedokissie Rucquetas with the U.S. of the Ос Maria,
00:36:10How did the death of the German president have been killed?
00:36:14The murder of the British British government in the 28.5.97.
00:36:19The murder of the German president in the 16.5.99.
00:36:27The murder of the British military steward Steven Saunders in the Philadelphia in the 8.6.2000.
00:36:35How did these men live?
00:36:36We were in the middle of the country.
00:36:38We were in the middle of the country as men.
00:36:42They were, however, one part of their work was a crime.
00:36:51On the 17th of November, he created a hole.
00:36:56The hole was only in his story.
00:37:28It was a period where the central team of the organization,
00:37:33the conference,
00:37:34was in a cafe,
00:37:37in a local cafe.
00:37:39Every day for a period.
00:37:41At some point, the cafe came out of a local cafe,
00:37:46he took a piece of paper,
00:37:48he took a piece of paper,
00:37:50then he fell, he came to a group of a group of a group,
00:37:55and he said to him,
00:37:56he said to him,
00:37:58he said to me,
00:38:00he said to him,
00:38:01he said to him,
00:38:01he wanted to say to him.
00:38:05So, that's what I wanted to do.
00:38:07There was a, if you want, an atmosphere,
00:38:12which was very strong,
00:38:16and this atmosphere, if you want,
00:38:20was a result of a situation
00:38:22that until then was the government,
00:38:25it was that we don't talk about the democracy.
00:38:29The democracy,
00:38:30that is,
00:38:31was political and ideological,
00:38:33discussed with the society,
00:38:35it was opened through its own energy
00:38:38and through its own words,
00:38:40a conversation with the society,
00:38:42from which the rest of the people
00:38:44had to say that they shouldn't have the democracy.
00:38:49This was a very big mistake.
00:38:54because of that,
00:39:00you know,
00:39:01when the economy was healthy,
00:39:02we had to be with us,
00:39:03it was very common to them.
00:39:06So,
00:39:07you know you had to have a conversation
00:39:08that was very interesting.
00:39:12At the time of the country,
00:39:12let me know that there was a conversation
00:39:14that there were people who lived in our lives
00:39:14And that there had been the same
00:39:14And that was very common to us.
00:39:20You accomplished nothing you proved nothing nothing that you thought was gonna change got any better
00:39:26all you did was
00:39:28make my life worse
00:39:48The 2nd of March 2003, the sight was all thrown into the Great Dictionary on the 17th of November
00:40:04There are many people who have been looking for this organization, such as Giorgos Petsos.
00:40:09Do you have any questions about whether it is political or not, what is it?
00:40:13This has been written. There is no question of political or not.
00:40:16This political or not is based on the political or not where the or not is able to do the
00:40:22escalation.
00:40:23Here we have a political or not political action, but this doesn't mean that the escalation of the escalation of
00:40:30the escalation of the escalation.
00:40:30It is not true of the political or not.
00:40:36The Giorg prestigious Capitoulos broke a bit in the process of the escalation of the escalation of the escalation.
00:40:44That was why Giorgius Petsos became a crucial part of the escalation of the escalation of the escalation of the
00:40:51escalation.
00:40:51It was the two big brothers, who were in the escalation of the escalation of the escalation,
00:40:58And Koufantino's had a character, which was a commonplace.
00:41:05In the years, he was an incredibly important person,
00:41:16and he was an incredibly important person.
00:41:22He believed, even now,
00:41:25to the truth of what he did.
00:41:31If you put this dilemma that you have,
00:41:36vía-mî-vía, vía-anτι-vía,
00:41:39until you have the consequences,
00:41:42then you will have the same idea of the Holocaust.
00:41:45You will have the authoritarian movements,
00:41:49the fighters who are most likely to have,
00:41:52including the Karashaki, the Jay, the Nari,
00:41:56and in a personal level,
00:41:58you will have the same family history
00:42:02of the communist people, of the Elacidipadera.
00:42:08The 17th of November, as part of this movement,
00:42:14of this movement of Antarctica Police,
00:42:21is that this movement has been closed.
00:42:23It is also the historical cycle which has closed,
00:42:27the cycle of the organization which I have spoken about.
00:42:34I think it was one of the forms of the next generation.
00:42:47I would like to say that a part of the Greek language
00:42:54who supported the organization all these years.
00:43:04He didn't do it because he saw it only as a social antivirus,
00:43:10as a result of some kind of discrimination.
00:43:23I think he saw it as an expression
00:43:29It's the expression of the historical narrative
00:43:34of the relationship between the Greek history.
00:43:45The characteristic of the country is the severity
00:43:49and the self-reportation of the relatives.
00:44:04He would come to see me weekly, what's the status of the case, have you got any closer
00:44:10to find the killers of my son, wonderful man.
00:44:16And once the arrests were made and once we were able to determine who shot his son,
00:44:22Michael Prodigals, a wonderful elderly gentleman said, you know what Rob, now I can die.
00:45:07If the bomb hadn't really gone off, if they hadn't really messed up that, would they be caught?
00:45:12Yes. And how fast?
00:45:13I can't say, it's impossible to say, but what I could predict is that they would continue to make mistakes.
00:45:20They were getting concerned, they were worried, they would have wanted to do something and it would have happened.
00:45:26So I can very confidently say to you, it would have happened, but I can't say when.
00:45:31Luck is a strange word to use in the context. I think it would have happened anyway.
00:45:36I mean, the work that was being done, the fact that so much effort had been gone into analyzing the
00:45:44proclamations, doing the forensic work, laying the ground with witnesses and the Greek public.
00:45:53I think it would have happened anyway.
00:45:56I mean, there were some cynics who were saying that it was a matter of luck.
00:46:00and had not a bomb exploded in the hands of Xyrós.
00:46:03You know, maybe any of them would have never been caught.
00:46:05Can you believe that?
00:46:06I don't buy that. You know, when they had the premature bombing in Piraeus, everything was done like a textbook.
00:46:11And from them, they could start moving quickly, not giving November 17 time to flee or go undercover or whatever.
00:46:17I think it was not dumb luck. It was preparedness and focus.
00:46:21.
00:46:22.
00:46:22.
00:46:23.
00:46:23It was the one who opened us the Sthenopo and made it clear.
00:46:28The exaltation would be no one else.
00:46:32The exaltation would be a Greek story?
00:46:35It's a very Greek story.
00:46:37It's so Greek, so Greek is also the feta.
00:46:41There are some people who say,
00:46:43what did they do?
00:46:44What did they do?
00:46:45Everything was a problem.
00:46:47If you didn't have a problem,
00:46:48you wouldn't have seen anything.
00:46:50Nothing in life,
00:46:52and so big,
00:46:54where he calls the 28th anniversary,
00:46:56he calls so much energy,
00:46:59he's killed the country,
00:47:01he's killed the country.
00:47:02It's not an awful task
00:47:03that anyone can see it from one minute to another.
00:47:06These are the challenges
00:47:09that, of course,
00:47:11after 28 years,
00:47:14they have written thousands,
00:47:16or more than thousands of thousands,
00:47:18of those who were the only ones
00:47:20who were the ones who made it.
00:47:22Those who made it a lot.
00:47:23They never written a letter.
00:47:25They were simply
00:47:26fantasies and analysis
00:47:28and theories
00:47:29and theories of the same way.
00:47:30In the United States,
00:47:31we have been working on the issue.
00:47:32The American people have tried
00:47:34the German people,
00:47:35and the German people have tried
00:47:36and the German people,
00:47:37that they still have tried
00:47:37and the other people who have tried
00:47:39to play a political or other,
00:47:40to take the time.
00:47:41I don't know.
00:47:42I don't know if anyone was able to do this for a political idea.
00:47:44Who was able to do this?
00:47:47It is a very clear way that the government of the government and the Hristo Choydis,
00:47:54who was a former CEO of the M.A.C.E.,
00:47:56he fought, really,
00:47:59he was very successful,
00:48:01he was more successful than the former CEO of the M.A.C.E.
00:48:03in the face of this phenomenon,
00:48:06but it is, obviously,
00:48:08That I came to the next level and didn't go to the right.
00:48:11I have to say it's public to you now.
00:48:16I said, OK, I understand that the PASOK can go to the right.
00:48:20If we go to the right, we go to the right.
00:48:22But we didn't go to the right.
00:48:24So, what did you say?
00:48:26What did you say to you?
00:48:28And I don't know if we are a good point.
00:48:30What will I say?
00:48:31One other question is if all of the emails have been released in the 17th of November
00:48:38and if there are some more common issues that have been released in the 17th of November,
00:48:42which for some reason didn't get into it.
00:48:44I told you then that I was going to be able to reach out to the end.
00:48:50I told you that they reached out to the end.
00:48:53All the actions of the 17th of November,
00:48:55there were 23 telephone calls,
00:48:57there were dozens of bombs,
00:48:59rucettes,
00:49:01gistees,
00:49:02they were exposed.
00:49:04Do not have any other questions?
00:49:07No, there are no other questions.
00:49:12There are still 4 or 5,
00:49:16as we call them,
00:49:17which were found in the 17th of November,
00:49:21which were in the 17th of November.
00:49:24From those that were,
00:49:27they found out that the actions were made
00:49:30to be responsible for the members of the 17th of November.
00:49:34There were some people who had taken care of,
00:49:36or had taken care of,
00:49:37or had taken care of.
00:49:39However, they were not working.
00:49:41And that was not working.
00:49:42That was not the case of the 17th of November.
00:49:44Do you have asylum members of the 17th of November?
00:49:46No.
00:49:48The answer is no.
00:50:18No.
00:50:19No.
00:50:20No.
00:50:25No.
00:50:26No.
00:50:28No.
00:50:29No.
00:50:30No.
00:50:30No.
00:50:35No.
00:50:36No.
00:50:37No.
00:50:37No.
00:50:39No.
00:50:40No.
00:50:42No.
00:50:43No.
00:50:47No.
00:50:49No.
00:50:58No.
00:51:02No.
00:51:02No.
00:51:07No.
00:51:09No.
00:51:13No.
00:51:13No.
00:51:14No.
00:51:15No.
00:51:17No.
00:51:18They all had too few people.
00:51:22No.
00:51:25No.
00:51:27No.
00:51:28were not clear, they were not clear,
00:51:32as they should be, and economically,
00:51:35because of the loss of the conditions.
00:51:37Are there any evidence for the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest?
00:51:39Some of them are clear,
00:51:42because there were no evidence for the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest.
00:51:47In other words, all of them would have heard about Parkinson's, for example.
00:51:52There was a one that was in the 17th of November,
00:51:56who didn't get into the financials
00:52:00that would be able to send them.
00:52:02We don't forget that the two of the Isakgeleans
00:52:06were the main priority of this belief.
00:52:10There's a theory out there
00:52:12that there are others who have never been arrested.
00:52:15You know, people maybe who are leading figures
00:52:18of Greek society or something like this.
00:52:19Did you buy that?
00:52:21It's a theory. It's been out there.
00:52:23You asked me, do I buy it? I'd say probably not.
00:52:27We never found any evidence.
00:52:29Now, is it possible?
00:52:32Sure. There's all kinds of things that are possible.
00:52:35I think the only person who would know for sure is Jotopoulos.
00:52:39And from what I understand, he's never been talking.
00:52:42Will there be a deathbed confession by him
00:52:45of some other theories confirming or refuting?
00:52:50I have no idea.
00:52:51I'd be a little bit surprised if there is.
00:52:54I think he'll probably just die.
00:52:56And whatever secrets, if there are any he has, will go with him.
00:53:00This is, you know, sort of, as you describe it,
00:53:04a big Greek success story.
00:53:06Right.
00:53:07But the other side of it is, it's a U.S. failure story, right?
00:53:10I mean, you guys spent millions, you know,
00:53:12you had like, you know, a lot of people working on this.
00:53:15How do you explain the fact that you didn't, you know, discover who these people were before?
00:53:19I don't take it as a U.S. failure.
00:53:22I think we went down a lot of wrong, dead-end alleys.
00:53:28I think no one ever, as I recall, tried to do on the American side a totally independent investigation,
00:53:36because there was always a view that if these guys were ever found, they should stand trial here, not somewhere
00:53:44else, and not in the U.S.
00:53:46You know, we did the best we could under the circumstances, with the tools we had, and we weren't able
00:53:55to help the Greeks succeed.
00:53:58And do you think the whole story has been told?
00:53:59No. I do not think the whole story has been told.
00:54:02I think there were probably other members who had dropped out.
00:54:05We don't know the story of Christos Tsutsuvis.
00:54:07I don't think we'll ever know the truth.
00:54:09The speculation is that Tsutsuvis was a member of ELA and was the only person ever to transition into the
00:54:18Kaftanoyebri.
00:54:18I think that's true.
00:54:20We also don't have the Welch 45.
00:54:22It's got to be somewhere.
00:54:24It didn't just vanish up into the sky.
00:54:26And the typewriter.
00:54:27We also never identified the lookout in the Welch assassination.
00:54:36There was a woman who was the lookout.
00:54:38We never identified her.
00:54:41We know she was blonde.
00:54:43That was it.
00:54:44It's impossible to know who it was.
00:54:47The story of the 17th of November is a difficult situation.
00:54:50She wakes up.
00:54:51We see the image of a country that we want to leave back.
00:54:5550 and some years from the establishment of the organization,
00:54:58and 24 years from the establishment of its establishment,
00:55:00it's a situation that is even a difficult situation.
00:55:02It was one of the biggest mistakes I had.
00:55:06It was a difficult time to find out that they were in the same position.
00:55:10And I felt that I felt the envy.
00:55:13That's why I did it.
00:55:16I felt that I was in the period of time.
00:55:17We had to go to the 17th of November to be a police officer.
00:55:22We had to get the police officer.
00:55:26We didn't see it.
00:55:29We were 20 years old.
00:55:30The war ended in 1949.
00:55:34I was born in 1948.
00:55:36We are now in 1977.
00:55:38I know that 20 years old is very little.
00:55:41The history of the political history.
00:55:43We had no idea.
00:55:45We worked with our emotions,
00:55:47with our feelings,
00:55:48with our philosophies and those that we had then.
00:55:51The Greek democracy was fired.
00:55:54He was fired.
00:55:55He was fired.
00:55:57He was murdered.
00:55:58He was murdered.
00:56:01He was murdered.
00:56:03He was murdered.
00:56:08And what was the result?
00:56:13The memories of one side
00:56:15and the murder of the prison.
00:56:16The memories of the police,
00:56:17the victims,
00:56:20the victims of the police,
00:56:22the victims of the police.
00:56:26I wanted to show you a little bit
00:56:28about the thoughts of the victims of the victims.
00:56:31Not only those who went for the rest,
00:56:35but also those who have been there.
00:56:37And many times,
00:56:39it was two times a time.
00:56:41For the children,
00:56:42for the daughters,
00:56:44the victims of the victims
00:56:45they were murdered by the victims.
00:56:51And we could not even see them on the front of the troops.
00:57:01And as soon as soon as they left,
00:57:01they could not be found in the streets,
00:57:03at least they would get to their death.
00:57:06And we could not see them.
00:57:07They could just see as soon as possible.
00:57:09They could look after them and see them,
00:57:09they could see them
00:57:10from that.
00:57:28That's the door to my dad's house right there.
00:57:30His car was locked like a deer.
00:57:36He said the hole in the ground was like three feet deep.
00:57:39And I know all the windows in the surrounding cars were blown out.
00:57:57My time here wasn't sad, it was beautiful.
00:58:00It's one of the greatest memories of my childhood.
00:58:04I just hate the way that it ended, you know?
00:58:16It's 35 for every year he was alive.
00:58:20And every year he was alive.
00:58:24He was so young.
00:58:3035 is so young.
00:58:33He had so much more life to live.
00:58:45He seemed so small.
00:58:47It was so big when I was a kid, right?
00:58:49Yeah.
00:58:50We had so much fun here.
00:58:53We had so much fun here.
00:58:55We made that.
00:58:59I can hear his laughter.
00:59:00I can hear his voice.
00:59:03I can hear his voice clear as day.
00:59:06I feel like after a long time, I forgot.
00:59:10I forgot what his voice sounded like.
00:59:14And as soon as I walked in here, I could hear his voice.
00:59:18I could hear his voice and it was overwhelming, you know?
00:59:37What did you really accomplish killing little girls' fathers for 30 years?
00:59:42And some of these men, they're fathers.
00:59:45And now your lives have been taken away.
00:59:47You're not raising your children, you know?
00:59:49What have you really accomplished?
00:59:51What have you proved?
00:59:52You accomplished nothing.
00:59:54You proved nothing.
00:59:56Nothing changed.
00:59:57Nothing that you thought was going to change got any better.
01:00:01All you did was make my life worse.
01:00:06You know, hiding behind a bomb.
01:00:08It's cowardice.
01:00:10And it's cold.
01:00:12And it's unforgivable.
01:00:19And I'm a Christian.
01:00:20I believe in God and I believe in faith, but I will never forgive.
01:00:26And I will never forget.
01:00:42There He chases too .
01:00:44You saved me .
01:01:00There is no doubt.
01:01:00I will never forgive me .
01:01:00It seems to be meaningful but
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