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00:01For over 22 years, A Place in the Sun has been helping couples find their dream homes abroad.
00:07It's getting a bit of a tingly feeling, isn't it? Are you?
00:10Loving it, loving it.
00:12Creating hundreds of happy households across the world.
00:15Oh, it's gorgeous, isn't it? Beautiful.
00:17Shall we do it? Look, we're all welling up here.
00:20In this series, we'll be revisiting some of them to find out what happened next.
00:25Can I get a high five? Yeah.
00:27Oh, yeah.
00:29Today, Jean Johansson goes walkies near Tamar in central Portugal with Alison and Mike, who she helped buy a property
00:36three years ago.
00:37Have you ever regretted your decision? Not at all. Not at all.
00:40Not at all. From the moment, we saw it. I think we just knew this was the place.
00:46Well, Ben Hillman is just outside the holiday hotspot of Toribieca, catching up with Whitney and Rose, who he helped
00:53find a holiday home a couple of years ago.
00:55You two are looking younger. I'm getting older. This is them, right?
00:58There you go. That's what the Spanish life does for you.
01:00Yeah, is it? Is it? It's all this good living.
01:12This is the life for me. Scenic rivers and castles. The Portuguese countryside truly has it all. So it's no
01:20surprise that Alison and Mike wanted to create their own adventures here when we went house hunting around the beautiful
01:26city of Tamar.
01:27To get to Tamar in central Portugal, you fly into Lisbon Airport, which takes less than three hours from the
01:34UK. And then it's around an hour and a quarter's drive.
01:38Tamar is one of Portugal's most historic towns, full of stunning architecture dating back to the 12th century.
01:45But it's the beautiful countryside surrounding the town where I'd be carrying out what turned out to be a fantastic
01:52house hunt.
01:54It was back in 2021 when Mike and Alison asked us to find them a holiday home in the countryside
02:00close to Tamar for their maximum budget of £116,000.
02:04They love Portugal because it allows them to dine al fresco.
02:09I mean, I don't think we'd ever not eat outside if we could, you know, very occasionally. At Christmas we
02:14were there, weren't we? We did eat inside for Christmas.
02:16But what did we do outside of that?
02:18I first met them at a spectacular viewpoint overlooking Tamar to find out what they were after in their perfect
02:25property.
02:26Well, we hope three bedrooms, if that's possible, with maybe some land.
02:33And there's a possibility that when we sort of come to retirement that we might also bring my dad across.
02:41So, maybe a bit of space, you know, or something that we could convert outside.
02:45Or an annex or something you could convert.
02:47My first property was in the village of Charles.
02:50I'd found Mike and Alison this two-bedroom house with a guest annex.
02:54And it made a great first impression.
02:56It looks just gorgeous. So cute.
02:59We've really captured what we're looking for.
03:01Good Kerberfield? Yes, yeah, really nice.
03:04Very much so. Yeah, really attractive.
03:06And that continued once we got inside.
03:09Oh, this looks lovely.
03:11Is this your style then, with the beams, that country kitchen feel?
03:14Yeah, yeah, no, it's lovely. Really nice.
03:17Do you cook, you two?
03:18Yes, yeah, I'm the main cook.
03:19You're actually right.
03:21So I'd cooked myself up my first contender,
03:25and had another appetising treat lined up with property number two.
03:29This three-bedroom bungalow priced a touch over Mike and Alison's budget,
03:33but it was negotiable to their top end and was definitely to their taste.
03:38Ah, Jean, this looks amazing.
03:41Really nice, lovely setting.
03:43And look at the views.
03:44Yeah, I mean, it's stunning. It's so beautiful.
03:46Really nice.
03:47The style of this property and the size, it just ticks a lot of boxes.
03:51Inside we checked out the living room first.
03:54It's got a really nice feel about it.
03:56It's lovely.
03:57Lovely floors and just nice and bright.
03:59Nice and bright.
04:00Really nice.
04:00And a little bar.
04:01Oh, yeah.
04:03That's nice.
04:03Yeah, really nice feature.
04:05I could sort of see this working.
04:06Yeah, it's a really nice open plan filling house.
04:08It's lovely.
04:09Before taking a look at the main bedroom.
04:12Oh, it's lovely.
04:13It's a really nice size room, yeah.
04:15Beautiful with all the storage, which is perfect for me,
04:18because I do love my clothes.
04:20They then went off on their own.
04:22Oh, so this is the kitchen, right?
04:24All right. Oh, it's a lovely space.
04:25Yeah.
04:26Wormtops are nice.
04:27Lovely.
04:27But maybe a little bit tired.
04:29Yeah.
04:30You can definitely see the potential of it.
04:31Yeah.
04:32Before meeting back up with me for the final verdict.
04:35We love it, yeah.
04:36It's just got so much space.
04:38Yeah, no, it's really nice.
04:39Yeah, I agree.
04:40It's a lovely house.
04:42Yeah, yeah.
04:42This was definitely Mike and Alison's favourite so far,
04:46and I knew I had a lot to live up to with property number three.
04:49This three bedroom bungalow painted a very distinctive colour.
04:53Once again, a bit over budget, but with some flexibility on price.
04:58I'm not getting the same energy I've had at my two previous properties,
05:01I must have met.
05:02It is a bit more urbanised.
05:04It feels a bit more closed in.
05:05It's just that there's a lot of houses close to this one
05:09and the proximity as well.
05:11It doesn't feel that you're on your own.
05:13They were a bit keener on the inside.
05:15Yeah, it's a nice space in here.
05:17Yeah, it is.
05:18Yeah, it feels very homely.
05:19Yeah.
05:19Very, very pretty in here.
05:21Yeah.
05:21But the location left this bungalow on the back burner,
05:24though Mike and Alison didn't completely rule it out.
05:28Property number four, this four bedroom house,
05:30was the biggest place we'd seen so far,
05:32but did need a bit of work doing to it.
05:35So this is the living room, right?
05:37Oh, okay.
05:39Yeah, it's not bad actually, is it?
05:41It's just a very tired looking house.
05:42Quite nice with the double patio doors as well.
05:45Yeah, yeah, onto the balcony, that's nice.
05:47Oh, this is lovely.
05:49Great view.
05:49Gosh, what a view.
05:51Yeah, it's lovely.
05:52And it's got the wraparound balcony, which we really like.
05:54Yes.
05:55Nice bit of space.
05:56There's lots of potential.
05:57Yeah, there is lots of potential.
05:58Are you still telling me this could be a contender?
06:00Yeah, it might be.
06:02I was not expecting that.
06:06So we were four properties in and Alison and Mike
06:09hadn't ruled anywhere out, though property two seemed to be
06:13the front runner.
06:13But I still had to show them my final place.
06:16This three bedroom former farmhouse in a rural location.
06:20Priced quite a bit over budget, though I'd been told there was
06:23a lot of flexibility on that.
06:26Oh, this is nice, Jane.
06:28Oh, that's nice.
06:29Last we come with the style.
06:30Yeah, yeah.
06:30I like the log burner, that's really nice.
06:31Not a lot of work to do at all, is there?
06:33Yeah, nice.
06:34Very, very nice.
06:35Very sweet.
06:36What are your instincts telling you at this point?
06:38You've confused me now.
06:40I think you've thrown a bit of a curveball in for it.
06:43That's OK.
06:44Is it a good curveball?
06:45It's a good curveball.
06:47Yeah, yeah, it's a good thing.
06:47Right?
06:48Yeah.
06:48So with my final place also in the running,
06:51Alison and Mike had no less than five contenders to choose from,
06:55and they went for property two.
06:57The three bedroom bungalow priced at just over £120,500.
07:03Because we're cash buyers,
07:04and we think we want to put quite a keen offering,
07:06you know, because there is work to do on it,
07:07we'd probably like to go in at £105,000.
07:09Why not?
07:10Why wouldn't we try?
07:11That offer was rejected,
07:13and after a bit of back and forth,
07:15the vendor came back with a price he was happy with.
07:18The agent has said that the owner won't accept anything less
07:22than £114,500.
07:25I have to bat it over to you guys.
07:27We've got to do it, have we?
07:28Yeah, I think we've got to go for it, yeah.
07:30And a phone call later,
07:31Alison and Mike had their house.
07:33You have a deal!
07:35That's such good news!
07:36Oh, I'm so pleased before you.
07:38Thank you. Thank you.
07:39Brilliant.
07:39How are you feeling, Alison?
07:41I'm really emotional, actually.
07:42That's OK.
07:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:44No, it's really good.
07:45Just fantastic news, isn't it, Mike?
07:45Yeah, it's amazing.
07:46It's amazing, it's really good.
07:48Thank you so much.
07:48Oh, I'm just so pleased.
07:49Are those happy tears?
07:50Happy tears.
07:51Aw, I'm so pleased with you, Alison.
07:53I could see you fell in love with that property.
07:56Yeah, we did, we both did.
07:56I think you're going to make it into something special.
07:59We really are, yeah.
07:59Definitely.
08:00I hope you'll come and see us.
08:01Oh, well, you don't have to ask me twice.
08:03Cheers, guys.
08:05Aw, cheers.
08:06Cheers.
08:06Cheers.
08:07Cheers.
08:10Three years on, I'm back in the stunning part of Portugal,
08:14finally taking Alison and Mike up on that offer.
08:17I can't wait to see them and hear what's been going on.
08:22Hiya.
08:23Hello.
08:24Lovely to see you.
08:26Lovely to see you.
08:27Lovely to see you, honestly.
08:28Hiya, Jane.
08:29Lovely to see you.
08:31How are you?
08:32Yeah, really well, thank you.
08:33Lovely to see you.
08:34Can you believe this?
08:35I know, we were just saying three years.
08:36So you're enjoying loads of lovely holidays here?
08:39Yeah.
08:39Well, actually...
08:41It's not a holiday home anymore.
08:42It's no longer a holiday.
08:43It's our permanent home.
08:44I can't believe this has gone from a holiday home to you living here full time like in three years.
08:48I know, I know.
08:48There's a lot that's happened.
08:50Yes, and I can't wait to hear all about it and I really can't wait to see the house.
08:53Oh, the house.
08:54I can't wait to show you.
08:56Let's do it.
08:57Can you have a look?
08:57It's exciting.
09:00Coming up, I take a tour of Alison and Mike's house and find out what they've done to it in
09:05the past three years.
09:07So here we are.
09:08It's a bit different from when we started.
09:11It's completely different.
09:12And this colour.
09:13Love it.
09:14Love, love, love.
09:21Today I'm in Bales, just outside the town of Tamar in central Portugal with Alison and Mike.
09:27Three years ago, I helped them find a three bedroom house and now I can't wait to have another look
09:32at it and find out more about why they decided to move out here permanently.
09:38So here we are.
09:39It's a bit different from when we started.
09:42It's completely different.
09:44And this colour.
09:45Love it.
09:45Love, love, love.
09:46Well, when we walk down into the little village at the bottom, the locals there sort of say,
09:52Oh, you live in Casa Rosa.
09:54And we haven't given it a name yet.
09:56So it's going to be called Casa Rosa.
09:57But I think it will be.
09:57Casa Rosa.
09:58And look at this garden.
09:59Oh, I know.
10:01But I bet it's took a lot of hours to get it like this.
10:04Oh, it took a lot of hours.
10:04You did it mostly on your own as well, didn't you?
10:06Yeah, I did a lot of matting and then over the top with the shingles.
10:10So the guy was coming from the builder's merchant quite a lot to drop off loads of shingles.
10:15To the crazy lady that's doing the garden on her own.
10:18With the blue sky there, it just looks so perfect.
10:21I'm so happy for you.
10:23We are really happy.
10:24It's just everything we wanted and more, to be honest.
10:27It's brilliant.
10:28Beautiful.
10:28This is just such a gorgeous property.
10:30I'm looking forward to you two showing me round for a change.
10:32And we've got some two additions to the family as well we'd like you to.
10:35Oh, yes.
10:36I haven't told you yet.
10:38That's exciting.
10:39Come on, come and have a look.
10:43So here we are.
10:45Yes, come on in, Jane.
10:46Come through.
10:47Still got the same tiles as the original.
10:49I'm so glad you kept these tiles.
10:50I like these.
10:52I love the tiles.
10:53So come and see what we've done to the living room.
10:56Oh, look at this.
11:00Hello.
11:01That's Ruby.
11:02And this is Mateo.
11:03They are lovely.
11:04So they're both rescue dogs and they are just the best.
11:07Oh, they're great.
11:08And this room, you've changed the complete feel of the room.
11:12You've really made it home.
11:13Got our new furniture in there rather than the old.
11:15So much lighter.
11:16And it feels a nice cosy space now, doesn't it?
11:19Yeah, it's really nice.
11:20When I go back to the UK for any reason, I cannot wait to come back.
11:24That's a good thing.
11:25I feel my roots are here.
11:27You feel like you're coming home when you come here, strangely.
11:29It sort of turns on its head.
11:30I'm not surprised because of what you've done with this property.
11:34It just feels right.
11:36It does.
11:36It absolutely was the right one, Jane.
11:39I mean, this room just looks great.
11:40And what about the kitchen?
11:41We've changed the sink and we've put a new oven in and lights in
11:45and we've put a new hob in and we've got a nice new fridge in there
11:47and things like that.
11:48So we've just made it a bit more livable.
11:49Yeah.
11:49Where's the bar?
11:51It's gone, Jane.
11:51You got rid of it.
11:53But that is a lovely area you've made there.
11:56So it's a nice area for dining.
11:59Yeah.
11:59A lot can happen in three years.
12:01I mean, we were coming out of a pandemic when we did our search.
12:04The world was such a crazy place.
12:06And I always thought we were both so brave.
12:08Because everything was so uncertain in the world.
12:10But you two were, like, taking such a big decision at that crazy time.
12:15I think...
12:16I always wanted to live abroad.
12:17But I think, you know, you're always...
12:19You'll find an excuse not to do something.
12:22Let's just get on and do it.
12:23We're now three years on.
12:24Here we are.
12:24And I remember you talking about your dad and a lot of the properties.
12:27It was a, let's find a room for your dad,
12:29for him to come and stay as a being over.
12:31He was keen, but then...
12:33He wants to maintain his independence at the moment.
12:35Right.
12:35That's what we need to do.
12:36Which is fair enough.
12:37So we always have that in the back burner if he wants to come with us.
12:39I want to see more.
12:41Come on then.
12:42Let's show you the bedroom.
12:43Let's go and show you the bedrooms.
12:45So this is our bedroom.
12:47Changed since you last saw it, Jane.
12:49Oh, yes.
12:49Look, you've completely changed it.
12:51Yeah.
12:51You've made it so light and bright and fresh.
12:54Yes.
12:54And we still want to paint the wardrobes as well.
12:56Yeah, that'll be great.
12:57That'll make it even lighter.
12:58Such a great amount of storage.
13:00And this bit to have a sofa in your bedroom.
13:02It's just a great size, isn't it?
13:04And then you're en suite as well.
13:06We've done some bits and pieces in this to make it more liveable,
13:08but in the end we want to upgrade it completely.
13:10And we're going to do some work on the house to make it a little bit more energy efficient.
13:13You can get insulation and things like that.
13:15So we'd like to be in it more, you know, low impact.
13:17You've done a really fabulous job with it.
13:20The house is great on the inside.
13:22I'd love to see the outside.
13:23Let's go ahead.
13:23Let's see the garden.
13:26This is just making me so happy.
13:28I mean, it felt right three years ago, but now I know it's right.
13:36It's changed a lot since you've been here.
13:38Oh, I mean...
13:39Ah, yes, Jane, it's...
13:41Hello!
13:42A lot different.
13:44You've changed it completely.
13:46It's taken a lot of, again, matting and shinkling, Jane.
13:51Well done, you.
13:52And it just goes with our outside living, which is what we've always really loved.
13:54Outside space was so important to you.
13:56It's lovely. Amazing.
13:57And now I can see why with what you've done with this.
14:00And a little lady over there.
14:02Yeah, for the dogs.
14:03Yeah, for the dogs.
14:03For the show down there.
14:05I remember standing in the garden with you,
14:07and I was worried you'd be a bit overwhelmed
14:10because it's a lot of land you've got with this property.
14:12It's a lot of land, but we love it.
14:13I think when the family come, it gives us space as well.
14:15So we've had probably up to six of us out here, haven't we?
14:19Yeah, yeah.
14:19When they all come.
14:21And we've had barbecues and things.
14:23And I built the barbecue as well.
14:24Oh, very nice.
14:25Yeah.
14:26Yeah.
14:26And we're going to have a barbecue for lunch.
14:27Would you like to join us?
14:28Oh, yes, please.
14:30Now you're talking.
14:31Yeah, let's get some kebabs on the grill, Mike.
14:33Yeah, definitely.
14:33Let's do it.
14:37Lovely.
14:38I'm so impressed with what Alison and Mike have done
14:41to what is now their permanent home,
14:43and I'm looking forward to having an outdoor meal with them.
14:46Let's not forget that's why they wanted to buy a property
14:48in Portugal in the first place.
14:52So when I left you, we all had a bit of a cry, I think,
14:55when you made the offer on the property.
14:57It was a bit exciting, wasn't it?
14:58Honestly.
14:58How did it go after that?
15:00I think it almost felt a little bit surreal, didn't it?
15:03Yeah, because we made the promissory contract,
15:05which is the first instance when you make an agreement
15:08to buy the property, which is quite good because it secures
15:11from both the vendors and our perspective point of view.
15:14I know the process can get tricky, especially when there's documents
15:18to be translated and things like that.
15:19How did you find it?
15:20Was it smooth?
15:22It was very good.
15:22We got really good support from our solicitor.
15:24Yes, very good.
15:25And the estate agent was very good.
15:28And no, it went very smoothly.
15:30The notary was straightforward, wasn't it?
15:32They translated into English for us, didn't they?
15:33So it was really good.
15:35It was really very straightforward.
15:36So you could only be here 19, 180 days on paper,
15:40but there are ways, things that you can apply for.
15:43So what vote did you go down?
15:44We did the retirement, which was the D7 vehicle.
15:47OK.
15:47Yeah.
15:48And actually, it was OK.
15:49Once you, again, a lot of people pay to have that done,
15:53but we thought we'd try ourselves and we'll understand it.
15:56Yeah, we had a couple of pick-ups when Alison first did it,
15:58but from that we learned.
16:00And when I did it, it was much easier, wasn't it?
16:01Much, much easier process for Mike, yeah.
16:04We had all the documents.
16:05We knew exactly what, you know, we needed.
16:08So it was much easier.
16:09Yeah.
16:09So you got all the paperwork done, you come here,
16:13start looking at the amount of work that needs there.
16:15I mean, you must have put some more money into the property.
16:19I think altogether we probably spent about £10,000
16:20on bits and pieces and painting and, you know,
16:23not a horrendous amount of money.
16:25The painting was the big outlay.
16:27Yeah, painting, insulating the roof.
16:29It was a big space, yeah.
16:30Yeah, it's a great big space.
16:31So potentially we're going to develop that into something.
16:33With all the people you've got coming over, maybe like a little apartment.
16:36A separate weighing up there would be really nice.
16:39Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:39And how are you finding life in general in terms of, like, bills,
16:43utility bills and heating costs and how's it comparing?
16:46It's very good, yes, it's very good, yeah.
16:48Council tax is so much less, isn't it?
16:50I mean, it's something like 65 euros a year, something like that.
16:54Is that a year?
16:55A year?
16:55Yeah, yeah.
16:56It's crazy.
16:58It is each, of course, yeah, but yeah.
16:59Yeah, yeah, yeah.
16:59The gas is kind of, and of course the fire as well.
17:02We have the logs, so I think we've spent probably about 200 euros on logs this year
17:07and we've probably spent about 150 euros on gas.
17:12Amazing.
17:13What about healthcare, things like that?
17:15Is that easy to sign up to over here?
17:16Yeah, it's very good, yeah.
17:17Lovely service, very thorough.
17:19No problem at all.
17:21So you're in the system here?
17:22So I'm in the system.
17:23Yeah, you'll have to join that.
17:24Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:25It's just nice to know you looked after if needed.
17:27Yes, that's right, yeah.
17:28And they have an electronic system similar to the NHS app,
17:31but they have their own Portuguese one, so you can repeat your prescriptions on there
17:36and you can put down any queries to your doctor.
17:39Yeah.
17:39So everything is very similar, it's just obviously in Portuguese.
17:43Now remind me, how much did you bag this for in the end?
17:46I think we paid £114,500.
17:48I bet it's grown because I know this area is getting more and more popular.
17:52Have you had it valued since you've lived here?
17:54The estate agent came out and he's valued it at about, it was 220,000 euros,
17:59which is around about £178,000.
18:02Amazing, isn't it?
18:03Three years, that's amazing.
18:05So we are really pleased to hear that it's gone up, but we'd never sell it.
18:10No, I can tell.
18:10It's absolutely perfect for us.
18:12This is the dream for me, you know.
18:14I meet so many different couples, but to actually see you sat here
18:18and the dream become the reality is just gorgeous.
18:21It's absolutely lovely.
18:22Yeah.
18:23I mean, we think we're lucky, don't we, really?
18:25Every day I get up and I think, gosh, how lucky are we to have this?
18:29Hello.
18:31So you're doing all those things you can do when you live in a beautiful,
18:34hot country.
18:35Yeah.
18:35We're going for a dog walk, so if you'd like to join us later.
18:38Yeah, we need to walk this off somehow.
18:39Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:41Thank you so much for this barbecue, mate.
18:42And cheers to your lovely home in Portugal.
18:45Cheers, Jane, and thank you for your support.
18:47No orange juice this time.
18:48No, no, exactly.
18:50Alison and Mike seem to really love their new life here in Tamar
18:54and I'm so happy for them.
18:56I'm also looking forward to seeing some of the beautiful countryside
18:59round here in the company of their new four-legged friends.
19:03I mean, it doesn't get much better than this view.
19:07It's great, isn't it, Jane?
19:08There's not many dog walks back home that look like this, by the way.
19:12And these two have brought you out.
19:14I mean, they're rescues, so I guess you don't know their history,
19:17so you're starting from scratch, right?
19:19We start from scratch.
19:19Yeah, so we're doing some training with them.
19:21Yeah.
19:21And the trainer that we have is absolutely brilliant.
19:25Are you learning commands in Portuguese or English?
19:28Well, a little bit of both, actually.
19:30Mateo, junto.
19:32Junto.
19:33Good boy.
19:34Oh, good boy.
19:34Sit.
19:35Good boy, Mateo.
19:37Well done.
19:39Fantastic.
19:39And well done, Alison.
19:40Great.
19:41Well, it worked, so that's a good thing.
19:44But they have.
19:46They're doing recall because hopefully one day we may be able to let them off the lead,
19:51but we need the recall to be much better.
19:54I mean, it's just such a wonderful thing that you did,
19:57because across Europe there's all sort of different attitudes towards dogs, aren't there?
20:01And we are, as Brits, we're a dog-loving nation, aren't we?
20:04Yeah.
20:05And these dogs are advertised from the local municipal dog rehoming sites,
20:12and the nice thing is they can go to UK, they could go to Holland.
20:17They are all passed for travel, so, you know, if somebody saw one, liked it,
20:23it would be giving a dog, you know, a new life, a new home.
20:26And it would be a real shame to get a thoroughbred,
20:28because there's so many rescues available, you know, out here.
20:31Yeah, you need to be...
20:31It's obviously meant to be.
20:33They look as if they really enjoy these wogs.
20:35It's a great thing you've done.
20:36It's two less dogs that are without a home, you know.
20:39You've given them a beautiful home.
20:41Yeah.
20:41I helped out with that, you two.
20:43You did to make that contribution.
20:44Absolutely, you did.
20:45You found the home and we filled it.
20:47Yeah.
20:48It just makes you feel good.
20:49It's just a nice thing to do.
20:51Yeah.
20:52Oh, lovely.
20:53Look at this.
20:55I know.
20:55It's a beautiful spot here.
20:56It's a great spot, isn't it?
20:57Yeah, looking back over there.
20:59I know.
20:59It's gorgeous.
21:00It's so nice.
21:02Yeah.
21:02So you did it three years ago?
21:04I know.
21:05Yeah.
21:05I mean, it's silly to even ask this, because I know what the answer's going to be, but
21:09have you ever regretted your decision?
21:11No.
21:12Never.
21:12Not at all.
21:13Not at all.
21:13From the moment we saw it, I think we just knew this was the place.
21:19Yeah.
21:19Yeah.
21:19And what advice would you have for anybody who's sat at home?
21:22Because we sit and we talk and we make plans that sometimes never happen.
21:25So what would you say to anyone who's thinking about getting a place abroad?
21:28You've got to follow your dreams.
21:30Yeah.
21:31Definitely.
21:31Don't sit there.
21:32Do it.
21:33Yeah, definitely.
21:33I mean, it's really worked well for us.
21:35You know, it really is a positive thing for us.
21:37It's been brilliant.
21:37Yeah.
21:37It's really good.
21:38Yeah, for sure.
21:39And we just enjoyed it so much.
21:40And if you can afford it and it's going to work, you should make it happen.
21:43Yes, definitely.
21:44It's been such a pleasure to be part of helping you find the property first and then coming
21:49and seeing this is just like, oh, honestly, it's just been so beautiful.
21:53Thanks for sharing it.
21:54Yeah, no, not at all.
21:54It's been so lovely to have you, Jane.
21:57You just see all the changes.
21:58Yeah, and see our journey, really.
22:00We thought it would be really nice.
22:00Oh, you've made your house such a beautiful home, so I'm going to hand over this little baby
22:05to you.
22:06With the reins.
22:07Thanks for having me today.
22:08It's been lovely to catch up.
22:10Thank you so much to see you again.
22:11Mike, enjoy your retirement.
22:14Start enjoying it.
22:15Bye, babies.
22:16I've got a flight to catch.
22:18I could stay and do this walk for another hour.
22:20Oh, what a shame.
22:21Lovely to see you too.
22:22See you.
22:23Take care.
22:24Bye-bye.
22:29Alison and Mike have really made that house a home and it's lovely to see.
22:33I mean, I knew I'd come back and visit them in Telmar someday, but it's been a thrill
22:38to see what a beautiful life they've made for themselves.
22:41And little Mateo and Ruby, well, they're just the icing on the cake.
22:47Coming up, Ben Hellman is in the coastal resort town of Punta Prima, just outside beautiful
22:53Toribieca, catching up with Whitney and Rose, a couple he helped find a wonderful holiday
22:58apartment two years ago.
23:00That was a stone's throw from the beach and came with access to a great pool.
23:04Oh, my goodness.
23:05It is a whopper, isn't it, this pool?
23:07It sure is.
23:08Even better than I remember it, to be honest.
23:11It really is.
23:12It's lovely, isn't it?
23:22It was the allure of sunshine and the stunning coastline which drew Rose and Whitney to Toribieca
23:28when I found them the perfect family holiday home.
23:32But before I find out how they've been getting on, I want to experience this area like never
23:37before.
23:38Wish me luck.
23:39Let's do this.
23:41Woo!
23:41Here I go!
23:46Whoa!
23:47Oh, my days!
23:49Toribieca and all that parasailing fun is really easy to get to as it's positioned at the southern
23:55end of the Costa Blanca with loads of transfer options from nearby Alicante Airport.
23:59That's a two and a half to three hour flight from the UK.
24:03The array of resorts, coastal towns and, of course, beaches along this stretch are extremely
24:08popular with holidaymakers and permanent residents.
24:12Sunkissed Toribieca is one of the best, with generations of families returning year after
24:17year.
24:18But it's not alone, as there are a few more great holiday hotspots nearby such as Punta
24:23Prima.
24:24Best known for its promenade and stunning beaches and lasagna, home to Lasagna Boulevard,
24:29the largest shopping centre in Alicante Province.
24:35Back in 2022, husband and wife with me and Rose were looking for a two-bedroom holiday
24:40home to enjoy with their two grown-up daughters and chose lasagna just outside Toribieca as
24:46their centre point, working with a budget of up to £90,000.
24:50We kicked things off with a chat on Cala Capitan Beach and I was slightly concerned they had
24:55different priorities.
24:58I like your classic car.
25:00Do we need a garage?
25:01No more cars for now.
25:03Come on, you're going to have Lasagna Boulevard potentially.
25:05I am.
25:05How are you going to get to Lasagna Boulevard?
25:07It needs to be in a classic car.
25:08Not a classic car though.
25:10Oh God.
25:12Back in the UK with me and Rose are property developers but were in real need of our help
25:17finding the right place in a market they were unfamiliar with.
25:21After a quick stop at that infamous local landmark.
25:25This is obviously the highlight for a lot of people.
25:28Yeah.
25:29Around here.
25:30The shopping.
25:30What would the girls make of this?
25:33They'd be in heaven.
25:34They'd love it.
25:35They would love it.
25:36We headed to our first option.
25:38A seven minute drive away in Lomas de Caberoy.
25:41This neat and tidy under budget two bedroom apartment.
25:44While they liked the communal pool and were pretty pleased with the open plan living space
25:48and sea view from the balcony.
25:50The location I think is probably our biggest stumbling block.
25:53Is it really?
25:54Yeah.
25:54What's most important?
25:55You know, bars, restaurants and shops.
25:59Yeah.
26:00A bit more of that.
26:01A bit more of that.
26:02A little bit closer to the beach as well would be good.
26:04Perhaps we should focus on somewhere that's a little bit closer to the action in that regard,
26:09shall we?
26:09Yeah, that would be good.
26:10Yeah, come on.
26:11Let's go.
26:14With location now top of the list of requirements, we headed to La Florida.
26:18An area set up for holiday makers with plenty of the amenities Rose and Whitney were keen
26:22to have in reach nearby.
26:23The place I had lined up was a two bedroom townhouse.
26:29Soak it all up.
26:30Why don't you?
26:31It's got a bit of character.
26:33It's bigger than I thought it was.
26:34Oh, is it really?
26:35Yeah.
26:36Condition of it?
26:37No, it's not as bad as I thought it might be.
26:40I was expecting more of a...
26:40Really?
26:41Yeah.
26:42Potential.
26:43Great.
26:43So far.
26:44It's got potential.
26:45So far.
26:46It has.
26:46And once they got out on the roof terrace...
26:49Oh!
26:51Oh!
26:52Oh!
26:53Oh!
26:54Oh!
26:54Ooze and wows and the sun's not even out!
26:56I know, but it's good.
26:58It's a great spacer.
26:59This is good.
26:59Nice views.
27:01You've done well on this one.
27:03And all those ooze made that our first contender.
27:07And I had another option in La Florida lined up next.
27:10In the form of this bungalow with two bedrooms.
27:12That was on the market a little over budgets,
27:15but with some room for negotiation.
27:17They felt the communal pool was the best yet
27:19and loved the Seaview Terrace.
27:21But the price tag meant it was a maybe rather than a solid contender.
27:25So the townhouse was still out in front.
27:28I knew at this point I'd need to really impress them to beat it.
27:31And so we headed to the coast and the resort town of Punta Prima to do just that.
27:37The house we're going to look at is only 400 metres up that road just there.
27:41Would that win you over?
27:43If it's close to the beach then it'll be alright.
27:44Yeah, we like to be close to water.
27:46So this is really nice.
27:49And once we got to the apartment...
27:51Right, property is just up there.
27:54A fifth floor apartment.
27:56Okay.
27:56What are we thinking?
27:57I think the view should be good.
27:59Yeah.
27:59That's a nice start.
28:00The view is spectacular up there.
28:05I sent them off to have a look around this two bedroom apartment on their own
28:08and its massive living room extended into an enclosed balcony.
28:12The modern kitchen and big bedrooms really impressed.
28:16Once they'd seen it all we had a bit of a catch up at the rather large communal pool.
28:21Alright then guys.
28:22Look at this.
28:23I know.
28:23I mean you could train for the Olympics in this.
28:25This is good.
28:26Yeah.
28:26The geriatric Olympics.
28:28Give over.
28:29This is good.
28:30What about this apartment then?
28:31Has it made a splash?
28:32It has.
28:33Has it?
28:34Yes, it has.
28:34It's got a view.
28:36It's quite spacious.
28:37Yeah.
28:37It's bright.
28:38Got the best pool.
28:39Definitely got the best pool.
28:41This is top of the list so far.
28:42Yeah definitely.
28:42I was just going to ask.
28:43What does that mean for the other two properties?
28:45It knocks the other two off.
28:47Yep.
28:47So this is the one to beat.
28:51I've been doing this for a while now and that feeling you get when you've shown a couple
28:55a property they love as much as that is hard to beat.
28:59I had another rather special apartment up my sleeve.
29:02This tube end in Los Altos that was over budget but with room to negotiate and the development
29:07had a rather special name.
29:10Right.
29:10Two words for you.
29:12Dream Hills.
29:14Nice.
29:14Okay.
29:15Do you like the sound of that?
29:16I like the sound of that.
29:16That is where we are at.
29:18Okay.
29:19As we headed inside I thought this one was the best presented property we'd seen so
29:23far and Whitney and Rose seemed to agree.
29:26But once we got to the roof terrace.
29:29Wow.
29:29This is nice.
29:30It's not bad is it?
29:31Really impressed with this.
29:32Just...
29:33Really impressed.
29:34I love that.
29:37So in the end we had ourselves two hot contenders and after a night of contemplation we sat down
29:43for a chat.
29:43The location of the apartment in Punta Prima a stone's throw from the beach won out and
29:49Rose and Whitney wanted to make an offer.
29:51Once I'd filled them in on a bit of exciting news that the owners wanted to sell their garage
29:56as well for £8,500 on top of the apartment's asking price of just under £81,000 I was
30:02chomping at the bit to find out what the offer was going to be.
30:06If we include the garage we'll go up to... let's start at £81,250.
30:12We'll start there and see where we end up.
30:13We're cash buyers are you?
30:14Yes.
30:15Yeah.
30:16Are you happy for me to make the call?
30:17Oh!
30:18Please make the call.
30:18Shall we get this done?
30:19Yes get it done.
30:20Oh gosh here we go.
30:22Unfortunately that was rejected.
30:24The owners wanted closer to £89,000.
30:27So I went back with Whitney Rose's maximum offer.
30:31Hello Nadia it's Ben again.
30:33I've had another word with Rose and Whitney.
30:35Obviously they like the apartment but there is a limit to what they want to spend on it.
30:40They are willing to up their offer and to meet your vendors halfway.
30:44So the maximum offer that they would be willing to make is £85,000.
30:50But they're not really willing to go any higher than that.
30:53That's obviously to include the garage as well.
30:58Fantastic.
30:58Thank you very much Nadia.
31:00We'll be in touch very shortly.
31:02Okay brilliant stuff.
31:06Take care.
31:07Bye.
31:08Gosh.
31:09Well played.
31:09You got it.
31:10Yes.
31:13Fantastic.
31:14Look I can tell you guys know what you're doing when it comes to property.
31:18Well are you feeling good about that?
31:20Oh my goodness.
31:21That's amazing.
31:22Thank you so much.
31:22Well done.
31:23Seriously.
31:24Oh my goodness.
31:25Well done.
31:25And I'm so glad you've found exactly what you want.
31:28And tell the girls as well.
31:29Yes.
31:30They're going to be over the moon aren't they?
31:31I'm sure they will be.
31:32Definitely.
31:33Oh my goodness.
31:34Fantastic.
31:35Well look.
31:35Well done.
31:36Let's raise a glass to that one.
31:39Nice one guys.
31:40Cheers.
31:42Wow we made it happen.
31:44What a memorable search.
31:48And a couple of years later we're all back and meeting up at the very same spot where we sealed
31:53that deal.
31:54There they are.
31:56I knew I'd find you here.
31:58How are you?
31:59I'm well.
31:59How are you?
32:00All the better for seeing you two.
32:02How are you doing?
32:03You two are looking younger.
32:04I'm getting older.
32:05This is them right.
32:06That's what the Spanish life does for you.
32:07Yeah is it?
32:08It's all this good living.
32:10It's good.
32:10Definitely.
32:11It's not bad at all.
32:12How's the apartment?
32:13It's good.
32:14It's great.
32:15Working well for you?
32:16It really is.
32:17Because it's just up there isn't it?
32:18Just up the road.
32:19Yeah five minutes away.
32:20How nice.
32:21I can't wait to see it.
32:22Let's go.
32:22Let's do this.
32:25Coming up it's going to be great to see that apartment again and as I know these two are switched
32:30on when it comes to property.
32:32Find out how the whole experience has been for them.
32:35I can't express enough how right this feels and how happy this makes me.
32:41It really honestly it's just it's incredible.
32:50Today I'm in Punta Prima just outside the popular Spanish town of Torrevieja catching up with Whitney and Rose the
32:57couple who developed properties back in the UK.
32:59And I helped them find a wonderful apartment two years ago.
33:03They've had a load of holidays out here since with their two daughters.
33:06I can't wait to take a look around their place and find out how the whole process has gone for
33:11them.
33:11The massive communal pool was a big selling point so we start in there.
33:16Oh my goodness it is a whopper isn't it this pool.
33:19It sure is.
33:20Even better than I remember it to be honest it really is.
33:23It's lovely isn't it.
33:25Gosh have you had good use out of it.
33:27We're here all the time it's only open sort of June to September and it never gets really full.
33:33No I think the most we've ever seen in there is about 25 people.
33:35And from the beach to the pool 60 seconds stroll.
33:39I know.
33:39If that.
33:40I know.
33:41That was the thing wasn't it with this place it was all about location I think.
33:44Yes the location was fantastic for us.
33:46Yeah.
33:46It gives us all that we need.
33:47So we've got the beach.
33:49We've got the shops literally two minutes away.
33:51Yeah.
33:52The view.
33:53Yeah because you're up right on the top.
33:55We are.
33:56Penthouse Ben.
33:57The penthouse.
33:58I'm so sorry.
33:58Of course it is the penthouse.
34:01Should we get up to the old penthouse?
34:04Let's do it.
34:05Looking forward to it.
34:06Mmm.
34:12Now.
34:15I've got to familiarise myself over here because I didn't show you around this one did I?
34:20No.
34:20You looked around here weren't you right?
34:22Yeah.
34:22So let me just get my head around it.
34:24It was two doubles.
34:25Two double bedrooms.
34:26Yeah and a little kitchen through there.
34:29But the balcony that was you know that was a great thing wasn't it?
34:32Yeah.
34:32The view.
34:33To have that the view isn't.
34:34Yeah I wanted the view and we got it.
34:36You must spend a bit of time out there.
34:37I do.
34:37My desk is right there and when I'm working here that's what I'm looking at.
34:40I love the fact your computer is facing the sea.
34:44Yeah.
34:44That is the way to work.
34:45It's not bad.
34:46Do you both have that feeling coming in here that first time?
34:50Yeah for me I'd always, the view was a big thing for me.
34:53A view and a location where the girls when they're out here they've got places to go it's not remote.
34:59I can't express enough how right this feels and how happy this makes me.
35:05Really honestly it's just, it's incredible.
35:07That is the success of a property search.
35:10It is the feeling.
35:11Yeah.
35:11You've got to have that feeling haven't you?
35:13Yeah.
35:13So you've obviously made some change, got rid of a bit of furniture.
35:16There was quite a bit in here wasn't there?
35:17Yeah there was a lot in here.
35:18There was a lot in here.
35:19A lot of stuff that wasn't our taste and just too much, too much of everything.
35:24So I just kind of scaled it back, just pulled bits apart and just repurposed bits where I needed them.
35:29And bought yourself a bit more space as well for the family.
35:32A lot more space.
35:33A lot more space.
35:33Yeah.
35:34Is that original furniture from when we first came?
35:38Yes.
35:38That is, that was on this side of the room and it was a huge unit.
35:42So I kind of broke it down, took the doors off.
35:45You didn't want to fill it with trinkets?
35:46No.
35:46I love to repurpose.
35:48So there's a bit there, there's a bit out in the hallway.
35:51There's a bit there for the printer.
35:54There's bits everywhere.
35:55Well it looks good, it's slightly modular and you can use it in a way that suits you.
35:59Yeah.
36:00Well look, shall we have a look at some more?
36:01Yeah let's show you some more.
36:02Show me what you've done.
36:06Aha.
36:07Mmm.
36:11Take a look at the view that we have.
36:12Oh, let me have a sneak of this view then.
36:16Yeah.
36:16This is the joy of this apartment, isn't it?
36:19Yeah, it is.
36:20We're up to that every day when we're here.
36:21Yeah, the view, view, views everywhere.
36:23Yeah.
36:24You can see where you fell for it.
36:25Mmm.
36:26Yeah, if it had been another apartment facing that way we wouldn't have gone for it.
36:30At all.
36:30This was the right apartment, the right place.
36:32Yeah.
36:33Yeah, everything was fine.
36:34Honestly, it's just joy.
36:36It's a joy.
36:37Wonderful to hear.
36:38Let's go and see more.
36:39Cool.
36:40Let's do it.
36:47This is the second bedroom.
36:48This is the guest room.
36:50This is our guest room, yes.
36:51And the view again.
36:52Yes, it's really good.
36:54Lucky guest, that's all I'm going to say.
36:56Yeah, no.
36:57Yeah.
36:58Is this you as well, getting handy with the old staple gun in here?
37:01Me and the staple gun, we're good friends.
37:03Yeah.
37:04Mmm.
37:04So, yes, until we can actually do it properly, I just want to try and do as much as I
37:10can
37:10to just kind of tweak it a little bit.
37:12So, yeah, that was me with my staple gun.
37:14I love the colours in that print.
37:15Yeah, it's bright.
37:16Happy.
37:17Yeah.
37:17Yeah.
37:18Getting the old rumblings in the tumblings.
37:21Mmm.
37:21Getting hungry, should we get some lunch?
37:23Well, I'm not going to say no.
37:24Not saying no.
37:25Good for you.
37:25We'll go by the pool.
37:26Yes, I was hoping you'd say that.
37:32Lunch, or la comida, is generally the biggest meal of the day for people in Spain.
37:37It rarely consists of a soggy supermarket sandwich like it might do for us Brits, but
37:42instead can last three to four hours and include a short nap or siesta before going
37:47back to work.
37:49How often are you doing this kind of thing out here?
37:53It's not so much here, but we do have little picnics outside and stuff in the summer, you
37:59know, near the beach.
38:01Just being able to stroll down to the beach.
38:03Yeah.
38:04It's not bad, is it?
38:05Your friends must be impressed.
38:07They must be.
38:08I think sometimes they don't believe when we say the beach is at the end of the road and
38:12the restaurants are at the top of the road and they're like, okay.
38:14And then when they come, it's like, oh my God, it really is.
38:16You don't even have to jump in a cab for anything, do you?
38:20No.
38:20No.
38:21Knowing how well versed you are with buying property back in the UK, how different of
38:25an experience has it been here?
38:27It's not too hard a process.
38:30No longer being part of the EU in the UK hasn't made, as far as I'm aware, it didn't
38:34make it any harder really in order to get to buy the property.
38:38You bought after Brexit?
38:40We did after Brexit.
38:40So we've got the 90 day rule.
38:42We have.
38:43Do you feel it's disadvantaged you at all?
38:45So far, no, but we are looking into getting our residency because I don't think it will
38:51have any negative impacts on us being based in the UK.
38:55It just means that, number one, if things change in the future and it becomes harder
38:59to get it, we've already got it.
39:00And two, it means that as and when we want to do more than 90 days, there will no longer
39:04be an issue.
39:06Let's cast my mind back again.
39:07So you bought this place, I think it was around £85,000.
39:11Remind me.
39:11It was.
39:12It was £85,000.
39:13With all the fees and everything else, it came in at just over £100,000.
39:16Including the garage.
39:17Let's not forget that.
39:18Including the garage.
39:19How much have you had to spend on it since?
39:22Because I know you've done the fundamentals.
39:23So we've probably spent around about €4,500.
39:26OK.
39:27So it's not terrible.
39:29We've got, like I said, brand new boilers installed.
39:31We had to have a place rewired because the wiring was so old.
39:34Wow, OK.
39:34So we had to go through that, then had to get it certificated.
39:37How did you deal with, you know, like finding the correct electrician, knowing you needed
39:42to have the certificate for it, for it to be signed off?
39:44How did you deal with that side of things?
39:46We were really lucky because the agent who we bought it through, Natcha, she's more or
39:52less become a friend.
39:52She's been really good to us.
39:54She's lovely.
39:55Anything we've needed, she's encouraged us to just give her a call.
40:00And then she's arranged it.
40:01She's got a, you know, she puts in touch with an electrician.
40:04She puts in touch with anybody that we've needed.
40:07So she's been gold to us.
40:11Really?
40:12That's something I hear so often about how good the agents are.
40:15You know, after the sale and helping out.
40:18Even when we were buying the place, because one of the conditions was to have it cleared out,
40:22because there was so much stuff in the garage.
40:24And when we got there, there was still a hell of a lot of stuff in there.
40:27What was that?
40:28So we said, we're not going to sign because we don't know how to get rid of all this stuff,
40:32what the potential costs would be.
40:33This is your experience coming into play here, isn't it?
40:36So she actually went and got a load of bags and cleared it all herself.
40:41I think she had about two car loads.
40:44Over and above.
40:46Yeah.
40:47Do you have any more sort of experiences lined up that you're looking forward to?
40:51Yes, there's a go-kart track just down the road from here that we've been threatening to have a go
40:56at,
40:56and we haven't done that.
40:57Yeah.
40:58Maybe we should have a go at that?
40:59Yeah, fancy that?
41:00I'm up for it.
41:01Cool.
41:02Might take a little snack with me.
41:03Yeah.
41:03Why not?
41:04Plenty of food lists.
41:07I remember when we first met with me, he mentioned he had a few classic cars,
41:11so I have a sneaking suspicion he knows a thing or two about driving,
41:14but they don't call me Hot Rod Hillman for nothing.
41:19What have you possibly got me into here?
41:22Great.
41:23You two.
41:23It's going to be great.
41:25Are you adrenaline junkies or something?
41:27A little bit, a little bit.
41:28Yeah?
41:28Have you carted before?
41:30Not at this track, but we have.
41:31Not at this track.
41:33Not at this track.
41:33You're not getting away with that.
41:34You're old hands at this.
41:35That's what you're telling me, isn't it?
41:37No, not at all.
41:38What did we win?
41:39I don't know.
41:39Pride.
41:40Pride is good.
41:41Pride.
41:42We can't spend pride.
41:43That's all we can afford.
41:44Come on, let's go.
41:45There you go.
42:10Yeah, he beat me.
42:11Oh, you're not high-fiving that?
42:14No.
42:14No, I'm not high-fiving.
42:17Get in while I'm worried about my helmet hair.
42:20I know what you're all saying at home.
42:22Ben's a born winner, eh?
42:24Well, I am still buzzing from that.
42:27Well, my hands are, at least.
42:28I was holding on for dear life.
42:29That was so much fun.
42:30That was great.
42:31Thank you so much.
42:32I've really enjoyed it.
42:33This is just a taste of what your life is like here.
42:37Yeah.
42:37I think the lovely thing for me is to come back and see how much you've settled in here
42:42and how much it's worked out for you both.
42:44Yeah.
42:45I guess the one question I've got for you is because you do invest in property back home.
42:49How has this panned out as an investment?
42:53Financially, it's probably going to be the one that we get the least return on, but emotionally
42:57and everything else, it's going to be the best and biggest investment we've ever done.
43:01It's an investment in the heart.
43:02Yeah.
43:03So, now you've been through the process and you've done it, what advice would you give
43:07to anyone else where it's just a spark of an idea?
43:11Yeah.
43:11Just never know.
43:13It's all possible.
43:14What are the first steps to take, would you say?
43:17Decide on a country and then a rough area and then start narrowing it down.
43:25So, it starts really big.
43:26Visit the area first.
43:27Yeah.
43:27Visit a few different areas to make sure it fits.
43:30And, actually, another great thing is to always check and see what airlines are flying.
43:35Yeah.
43:35Because that makes a big difference.
43:37If there's only one or two airlines flying there, then the prices will always be much higher.
43:41Yeah.
43:41That is such a sound piece of advice, actually.
43:45It really is.
43:45It really is.
43:46So, there's nothing you would have done differently?
43:48No, not really.
43:49I can't think of anything, you know.
43:51You're so chilled.
43:52So relaxed.
43:54So at home, really.
43:55Yeah.
43:56Yeah.
43:57I suppose, aren't you?
43:58I'm very comfortable.
44:00Very comfortable.
44:01It's lovely.
44:02It's lovely.
44:03And we thank you.
44:05Well, it is pure joy for me to come back and see you again.
44:09Yeah.
44:10To see your lovely apartment and to see that you're so happy.
44:12And, of course, the rest of the family as well.
44:15Because it's for them too, isn't it?
44:16Yeah.
44:16Well, I know it's short and sweet.
44:18I'm going to be making a move, but it's been so lovely to catch up with you again.
44:22I have got a cart to catch.
44:24Sorry, a plane to catch.
44:27Take care.
44:28I'm glad to see you.
44:28Let me know all your renovations.
44:30Yes, we will do.
44:31All right.
44:32Take care.
44:33Bye-bye.
44:37Well, things have panned out perfectly for Whitney and Rose.
44:42And I'm happy to say I managed to steer them in the right direction
44:45because they are now on track to create plenty more happy family memories
44:51out here in beautiful Costa Blanca.
44:54Right then.
44:55I'm off to sort this barnet out.
44:57If you'd like to be on a place in the sun to find your own dream home,
45:01go to channel4.com forward slash take part.
45:04Good-bye.
45:05Good night.
45:26Have a great night.
45:27Bye-bye.
45:28Good night.
45:29We shouldn't have to be on the right side.
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