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00:03If someone says that a player is overrated or underrated, who does the rating?
00:08Well, we do.
00:10They're killing me! Why are they? They're killing me!
00:12For our list of the top 10 most underrated players of all time, we excluded no one.
00:19Oh, now we got a problem.
00:21You can't be in a hall of fame and be underrated.
00:24That's the definition of rating somebody. You're famous. You're in a hall of the famous.
00:29I'm sorry, if you need more than that, then you're a very insecure person.
00:33Geez, that's the first time everybody ever told me that.
00:36I'm not banning. That's all on the side. I'm not banning.
00:40No way, man. No way.
00:43They really have no idea how great guys like that are.
00:48That was a big time answer right there. Big time answer.
00:52Some of the time with these hall of famers, we hand them the yellow blazer, we put them on the
00:56podium,
00:57we have a speech, we cheer, and then we tend to forget about them.
01:02We're going to keep this simple.
01:04You guys gotta be better now! Be patient with them!
01:07If we think a player is better than people remember, he's got a shot at making our list.
01:13Oh, I got that! Oh, I got that!
01:15When public opinion and player performance have a gap, there's your underrated level, right there.
01:22Exactly.
01:22Okay?
01:2310.
01:24The number 10 most underrated player of all time.
01:28Len Dawson.
01:30Leonard Dawson.
01:32Is he underrated in the group of Hall of Fame quarterbacks? Maybe.
01:37Stay here and make it look like we know what the hell we're doing.
01:40He is really a classic underrated player.
01:43Underrated. He won a Super Bowl. He's in the Hall of Fame. He shouldn't be on an underrated list.
01:48How many f***ing mistakes are they going to make out there?
01:51Well, jeez, tell them to shut their big mouth and call them.
01:56Lenny Dawson is underrated.
01:58The best quarterback in the NFL and the AFL, week in, week out, the late 1960s, was Len Dawson.
02:05Throw that thing on the outside, Leonard. He can't cover that thing, Lenny. Throw it any time.
02:09He ran Hank's Scram system as well as anybody could.
02:14Come on, Len! Come on! Get him out of there!
02:16Dawson and quarterback. Gets the snap. He makes the run to Mike Garrett.
02:20Len Dawson led his league in completion percentage six times.
02:25He led his league in touchdowns four times.
02:28Quarterbacks of his era, besides him, did not throw 26 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
02:33They threw 20 touchdowns and 25 or 30 interceptions.
02:37That's a rotten exhibition of football. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
02:41Len Dawson is like a West Coast offense quarterback from today.
02:45Time traveling back to the 1960s.
02:48Exactly.
02:52I think the Chiefs...
02:53He's the greatest AFL quarterback of all time.
02:58Had he played in New York like overrated Namath did, he'd be talked about like he's a top 10 quarterback
03:06of all time.
03:07He's not, but that's all he'd be talked about.
03:12If he ran his mouth...
03:14Seemed like a team that really got their defense.
03:17Bobby Bell over the touchdown!
03:19And I think of, you know, Len Dawson as like an efficient manager.
03:24Haters...
03:24He was a league MVP.
03:27What is with this guy and hating on the starting quarterbacks of Super Bowl one?
03:32He called Barge Starr like an average quarterback like the other episode.
03:44We'll hate when Len Dawson's fans are quite supportive.
03:50I was eight years old and I got to meet Len Dawson and he signed this for me and I
03:56kept it my whole life.
03:57I'm 46.
03:58I've kept nothing else.
04:01Ex-wives, dogs, Walter Payton ball, Joe Montana jersey.
04:07I hated that divorce judge, but I wouldn't let him have the Len Dawson autograph.
04:17Len Dawson was the quarterback of Signal Games in the early days of the NFL.
04:26Our number 10 most underrated player was the MVP of Super Bowl 4.
04:32It was there, boys.
04:34It was there, wasn't it?
04:35It was there, wasn't it?
04:35Watch it, look.
04:36But does anyone remember?
04:39Whenever I see Super Bowl 4 highlights, all I see is Hank Stram matriculating down the field.
04:44Come on, Lenny! Pump it in there, baby!
04:46Just keep matriculating the ball down the field, boys!
04:49It's the only Super Bowl where all the highlights take place on the sideline.
04:53How in the world can all six of you miss a play like that?
04:57All six of you miss a play?
04:58Len Dawson got a Super Bowl ring to show for it.
05:01Nice call, Lenny.
05:02Nice call, Lenny.
05:03He's also Super Bowl MVP.
05:05And yet he doesn't get the credit he deserves.
05:07Do I think he's underrated?
05:12That's a sin.
05:14That's it, Lenny!
05:15For sure.
05:16He gets screwed.
05:18Wow!
05:20Before Neon Deon made sure nobody underrated him, there was Leapin' Lamar Parish, a cornerback
05:27for the Bengals who had his partner in crime.
05:30Ken Reilly.
05:32He never made a Pro Bowl despite retiring with the fourth most interceptions in NFL history.
05:38I think what happens a lot of times if you don't win Super Bowls and you don't win championships,
05:44you get underrated, you get bypassed.
05:46A lack of rings might also explain why our number nine most underrated player never gets his due.
05:54The number nine most underrated player of all time, Brian Westbrook.
06:00Your list is definitely wrong again.
06:02I deserve to be a little bit closer to the top.
06:06You know what?
06:07I don't know if Brian Westbrook is really an underrated player.
06:10I think people always gave him props.
06:12I thought people propped up Westbrook.
06:14Westbrook's sweet, though.
06:16I like Westbrook.
06:17He's sweet.
06:18I mean, if Brian Westbrook is underrated, it's criminal.
06:21I think in Philadelphia, he's not underappreciated.
06:24And if he's underappreciated outside of Philadelphia, it's because people didn't get to watch him play.
06:30He's underrated.
06:32Brian Westbrook was one of the great underrated players I think we've ever seen.
06:36He was a guy who really did everything.
06:38I mean, you look at the great backs that do everything.
06:40Marshall Falk comes to mind right away.
06:42Brian Westbrook.
06:43Dual threat running back.
06:45Return kicks and punts.
06:47Yeah.
06:48It was kind of a mini version of Marshall Falk.
06:50You can't catch that little guy.
06:53Brian Westbrook got so much attention from being underrated that he started to get a lot of respect.
06:58He's like, he's not just good, he's great.
07:01Would I put him on all-time top ten now?
07:08So why does the former Philly back appear on our list of guys who don't get enough brotherly love?
07:14It's just not talking about my game, letting my game speak for itself.
07:20There is your ultimate weapon.
07:22He was never a guy that beat his chest and pointed finger better than this guy.
07:27I mean, he was a true pro, man.
07:28He went out there and made people pay.
07:30He step on Michael Adams in the face.
07:33For whatever reason, the total yard is not a prominent one.
07:38Brian Westbrook has now gained more yards from scrimmage in a season than any player in Eagles history.
07:45But you can't rush for 1,800 yards if you're receiving for 800 or 900 yards every year.
07:50But then when you combine the yards, receiving, rushing, some punt returns.
07:54Brian Westbrook! He's going! He's gone!
07:57That's when you see the value of some of the most underrated players.
08:02When you thought about that era of the Philadelphia Eagles, first you had Jim Johnson's defense.
08:06They were definitely a defensive-minded team.
08:08Then you had Andy Reid, and Andy Reid likes to pass the ball.
08:12Then on top of that you had Donovan McNabb, and Donovan McNabb was like a carnival show.
08:17And then you had Terrell Owens into the mix, and those two together, it took a lot of attention off
08:22of Brian Westbrook.
08:23I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but I thought Brian Mitchell did more than him.
08:29Everybody calm down. Take a deep breath.
08:32Absolutely, Brian Westbrook should be higher. I don't care what list you put out there.
08:37Harold Carmichael did more than Brian Westbrook ever did.
08:41Everyone always thought that Westbrook was going to peter out after a year or two.
08:44And then it was three, and it was four, and it was five.
08:47And Westbrook is off to the races.
08:48And he stayed at the top of his game for a long period of time,
08:52and was one of the underrated and undervalued weapons in the National Football League.
08:56I hope that Danny and Tomlinson had more yards from scrimmage than Westbrook for a five-year run.
09:03Maybe the rest of the country will wake up, but this is indeed a five-year run.
09:10The number eight most underrated player of all time, Ken Anderson's number eight.
09:16There's no question Ken Anderson's one of the most underrated players ever.
09:22Ken Anderson at number eight.
09:24This tells you that somebody is not paying attention.
09:28I want to pay attention, as usual.
09:30Ken Anderson is easily in the top underrated players in the history of the National Football League.
09:37He's underrated on the underrated list. He should be number one on the underrated list.
09:41He's the most underrated player not in the Hall of Fame. There is no question.
09:511975 brought new heights to the Bengals' passing attack,
09:54a machine geared around the steadiest quarterback in pro football, Ken Anderson.
09:59I think when you look at the history of the West Coast offense these days,
10:03yes, it started with Bill Walsh in Cincinnati,
10:06but the guy who really took it to another one was Ken Anderson.
10:13You can make a case, a very good case, that Ken Anderson was Joe Montana before Joe Montana.
10:19Wait a minute. Just wait a second.
10:22Because when Bill Walsh was the offensive coordinator of the Bengals,
10:26he basically put in the West Coast offense with that Bengals team.
10:29What a throw for Bengals.
10:31It's not the West Coast offense.
10:33Should have been called the Ohio Valley offense.
10:36Now I've been told by you what the f*** to do.
10:38Had he stayed there as Bengals' coach, Ken Anderson would have been Joe Montana.
10:48While we admit Ken and Kool might not have the same ring,
10:52Anderson makes our list because of another four-time Super Bowl champion that gets all the attention.
10:59It was just easy to overlook him playing in the shadow of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Terry Bradshaw.
11:06It's the classic quarterback dichotomy.
11:08You have a stat guy in Anderson, and you have the quote-unquote winner in Bradshaw.
11:14The Pittsburgh Steelers are the champions of the National Football League for the fourth time.
11:19The main difference was he was playing on the other side of the ball from the steel curtain.
11:24They could make up for the mistakes that Bradshaw made.
11:28Anderson could not make mistakes.
11:32You're talking about a guy who was completing 60, 65, and in one case, 70% of his passes during
11:39the course of a season
11:40with a terrible offensive line.
11:43Anderson back to throw, locks, fires into the end zone, touchdown!
11:46As a matter of fact, when Ken Anderson retired, he was sacked more than any quarterback in the history of
11:52the National Football League.
11:57And he was still not throwing interceptions, he still was completing passes, and he still was taking a Bengals team,
12:04a franchise that was still very young at that point, and making them winners.
12:08The Bengals win this AFC title away.
12:13Still, it's the game he didn't win that keeps our number eight underrated player from a higher ranking on our
12:20list.
12:20He elevated a Cincinnati team that was probably talented, but not great in any way.
12:27He elevated them, I think, about as far as they could have been elevated.
12:31This guy, there's a big push to get in the Hall, and he should be in the Hall.
12:34He's definitely underrated.
12:36There are 31 quarterbacks untried in the Hall of Fame,
12:39yet only six of them have thrown more touchdown passes than Dave Craig.
12:45Chargers rush only four, Craig goes for the pass in the end zone, touchdown Seahawks!
12:50So why is Craig underrated?
12:52Underrated because you don't think about him.
12:54Somebody else always brings him up.
12:56You're always responding to Dave Craig.
12:58You're never generating your own Dave Craig thoughts.
13:01Still, Craig couldn't crack our list because he was sacked 494 times in his career,
13:07the third most in NFL history.
13:09And while he spent most years without a Pro Bowl offensive lineman,
13:13so did our next underrated player.
13:18The number seven most underrated player of all time,
13:22Randall Honeycomb.
13:23You can say that, you can say that.
13:25He's overrated.
13:26I think you've got a long list.
13:27He should be on the overrated list.
13:29No, I think Randall is underrated.
13:30Underrated?
13:32What did he do?
13:37He made that one great play on a Monday night game.
13:40Randall slaps at the 10, but throws the ball and throws for a touchdown.
13:45Randall Cunningham is the reason, probably,
13:48that Michael Bick wanted to play football to begin with.
13:51That's why I still look good on you, baby Paul.
13:53Right on me, I look good on you.
13:54He was incredible.
13:55He was amazing.
13:56He was phenomenal.
13:57I think he's way underrated.
14:00He's underrated.
14:02Randall Cunningham took the art of quarterbacking to another level.
14:06I mean, you know, his mobility really elevated.
14:09Cunningham is going to run.
14:11Yeah, I think part of the reason why he was underrated,
14:13yeah, he was on the cover of Sports Illustrated as the ultimate weapon.
14:18But a lot of people thought of him as almost a novelty, right?
14:21Almost a fad.
14:22Oh, he was the running quarterback.
14:24But he won big games for them.
14:26I don't know how it did.
14:26I think we're looking at Plastic Man.
14:28Woo!
14:32Our number seven most underrated player may have been known as Plastic Man.
14:37But it's his golden arm that seems to go unnoticed.
14:42He was maybe the best thrower in the history of the game,
14:46as far as throwing a javelin-like football.
14:49And he could throw it like 90 yards almost.
14:52His arm was never underrated.
14:54His production was.
14:56Cunningham with a marvelous pass.
14:58He was 30 games over 500 as a quarterback.
15:03He threw for 3,000 yards five times.
15:07He also was a guy that had 70 more touchdowns than interceptions over the course of his career.
15:12And look who he was throwing to.
15:14I mean, Calvin Williams?
15:17Fred Barnett?
15:18Unbelievable.
15:18I mean, Chris Carter before he was really Chris Carter?
15:21It's absolutely unbelievable.
15:24I would give Randall far more credit for being a passer than people do.
15:29He really could have been MVP in 1990.
15:31And then he was UPI MVP in 98.
15:35As an older player.
15:36When he finally got some receiver help.
15:43Though Randall did have his legal, he threw for 400 yards in the Fog Bowl.
15:48It was a late career move to Minnesota that proved his talents as a passer.
15:53Vikings were 13-1 when he started games.
15:56He finished with 34 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.
15:59Career numbers for a guy who had already had a very good career.
16:02But, if you look back at that, if he doesn't have Randy Moss, does he have the same success?
16:07They call me the freak, man.
16:08You got two freak athletes making all these plays.
16:11I don't know if we can put that on a conventional level.
16:17He was a guy that I think had a lot of potential.
16:19And it wasn't realized, but it wasn't realized based on his...
16:23I mean, he had the 1991 injury that submarines his whole season.
16:26He's down. Randall Cunningham is down on the field.
16:28And if you look at his kind of career arc, he's building towards 91,
16:34shreds his knee, loses the season, and it is never quite the same after that.
16:39Talk about nightmares.
16:40I mean, stupid Bryce Poff ruined not only much of Randall Cunningham's career,
16:44but a large portion of my childhood.
16:46But his knee blew out, and then that was it.
16:48His career was largely over, and so was my childhood.
16:51The number six most underrated player of all time.
16:54Second, Marvin Harrison.
16:57Marvin Harrison, Mr. Antisocial,
17:01really just wanted to live in an isolation pod away from all of humanity.
17:07I wouldn't say he was underrated.
17:09I just think he was quiet.
17:12Marvin Harrison just...
17:13Did he ever do an interview?
17:14Has anybody ever heard his voice?
17:19He's a very interesting, sort of mysterious guy, Marvin Harrison.
17:24I mean, you've seen, after his career, kind of mysterious.
17:35Marvin Harrison's mouth wasn't big, but his numbers sure were.
17:41Oh, my God, I'm saying that, but I'll say so.
17:43He awesome, baby!
17:44He awesome, baby!
17:45He awesome!
17:47Our number six most underrated player topped 1,000 yards and 10 touchdowns in eight straight seasons.
17:55Here's an outdown.
17:57Here's a touchdown!
17:57In 2002, Harrison's 143 receptions set a new NFL record.
18:04He's got no passes than any player in league history of a single season.
18:09Vesting the old mark by 20.
18:12He was one of the most beautiful wide receivers we ever had.
18:16Yeah, he's definitely underrated.
18:17But some believe Marvin's amazing numbers can be summed up in two words.
18:23Peyton Manning.
18:25I think a lot of people assumed that any receiver could do these things with Peyton Manning.
18:32If I call a pass play to Marvin, he never says,
18:35Are you sure you don't want to direct him?
18:36Marvin Harrison was a guy who was in a great situation.
18:41He played with a Hall of Fame quarterback his whole career,
18:44indoors on a fast track in the same system.
18:47Throws it down the middle.
18:48It's headed for Marvin.
18:49He's got it! Touchdown!
18:51Everything's set up perfectly.
18:52Peyton Manning knows exactly what he's doing.
18:55He knows he's going to get a hit.
18:56He delivers a throw down the field to Harrison.
18:59Number one combination between wide receiver and quarterback receptions all the time.
19:04Touchdown! Touchdown! Touchdown!
19:07Y'all fix this yourselves. Y'all done a good job today.
19:10The level of adoration for Peyton Manning.
19:13Do you have to pay for those Boy Scout badges?
19:16Has made anything Colts-affiliated since 1998.
19:21Marvin Harrison kind of fits, because it's always all about Peyton.
19:30Marvin Harrison went to eight Pro Bowls. He was on eight All-Pro teams.
19:33More touchdowns preceding than any Colts player in history.
19:37He didn't fly under anybody's radar.
19:39I don't know who is saying he's underrated.
19:41Marvin is the most underrated, I think, player in NFL history.
19:45He deserves more recognition.
19:48I don't know, when a guy's got 1,300 catches, it's hard for me to call him underrated.
19:53He was never underrated, he was never overrated, he was just rated.
19:56And now, the number five most underrated player of all time, Andre Reid.
20:03Way underrated.
20:05How can you have a guy who should be in Canton now, fifth on a list of underrated players?
20:14I mean, let's face facts, he was one of the best ever.
20:16I mean, when you look at those two, Kelly and Reid, are you kidding me?
20:20And it is caught by Reid at the 40!
20:22That was just flat out sick.
20:25Andre Reid brings another big play for the Bills!
20:28Jim Kelly is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer without Andre Reid.
20:33When you talk Bills, they went to four straight Super Bowls.
20:35I don't think that's ever going to be done again.
20:37So you've got to give some of those guys some Hall of Fame.
20:39Okay, the quarterback's in, the running back's in.
20:42Put the receiver in.
20:42Love him on that list.
20:44Definitely underrated.
20:49Besides getting the cold shoulder from Canton,
20:51our number five most underrated player spent 15 years under frosty conditions.
20:57I think another thing that is a little bit underrated about Andre,
21:02played in cold weather, bad weather games throughout his career.
21:05Andre Reid runs in for the score!
21:09And he also was so tough.
21:11You talk about diva receivers, pretty boys.
21:14Y'all talk about me?
21:15I mean, he did the dirty work over the middle.
21:18Does he make the reception?
21:20Yes!
21:21He makes the reception!
21:25Here's the thing.
21:26When we start talking about rated and underrated,
21:28the question always becomes,
21:30what was your system?
21:32Get up, Phil!
21:33Stop f***ing dancing!
21:34Andre Reid played in was designed to create huge numbers
21:38in preceding yards and receptions.
21:39He throws, he's got a man, Reid!
21:41He wasn't in a real peppy offense.
21:44People have the vision of an aerial circus.
21:47Bills passed 50% of the time throughout his career.
21:51So Andre's numbers might have been better on a different team.
21:55Are y'all convinced now?
22:00All schemes aside, what earns Andre Reid a place on our list is consistency.
22:05In fact, only Jerry Rice has more seasons with 50 more catches.
22:11The problem with Andre Reid and other players of his era besides Jerry Rice is,
22:16they set a group of records and the next generation of receivers came and f***ed a couple years later.
22:23I'm in a league of my own, they ain't ready for me!
22:25In 1990
22:27Andre Reid retired third all time in receptions, fourth in receiving yards
22:31and had to wait like 15 years to get in the Hall of Fame.
22:35In 1990, their first Super Bowl season, they threw 425 passes.
22:39That would be 30th or 31st in the league today.
22:46All the little silly reasons to undercut a guy apply to Andre Reid.
22:50He never won a Super Bowl, so underrate him.
22:53He throws!
22:54Reid, touchdown!
22:55He didn't play in a major market, so underrate him.
22:58Throws!
22:58Down there is Kyle Reid at the 5 in!
23:01He didn't have that signature catch.
23:05Underrate him.
23:06Andre Reid, 3 straight touchdown!
23:09If you can look past those things and look at the player, the accomplishments,
23:13what he really did week in and week out, you realize that he is a great player.
23:17That he is a Hall of Fame caliber player.
23:22The number 4 most underrated player of all time, Otis Anderson.
23:28Otis Anderson?
23:32I wouldn't have had him on the list.
23:35Oh no.
23:36Nah.
23:38Nah.
23:39How did he even get in the top 10?
23:40I would have had about 15 other names come to mind before I would have got to Otis Anderson.
23:46Sheesh!
23:48Is anyone with us on this?
23:51What happened?
23:52He was very underrated.
23:54He got over 10,000 yards.
23:56Lomax drops, gives him a delay.
23:58O.J. Anderson left side.
23:59When you think of the great running backs, you don't think of him.
24:03Because he was in a small market in St. Louis for the most part.
24:07O.J. Anderson!
24:08At the end of the career with the Giants, big market, but he wasn't the same running back.
24:14He was very underrated.
24:18When he broke in with the Cardinals, he was one of the most skilled running backs that came into the
24:26league.
24:26His first game as a rookie, he had a 76 yard touchdown.
24:3176 yards for O.J. Anderson!
24:37In 1979, Otis Anderson set an NFL rookie rushing record with 1,605 yards.
24:45And he wasn't done.
24:48He was a guy who could crank out 1,100 yard, 1,200 yard, 50 catch seasons, like clockwork, for
24:56the worst team by far in his division.
24:59In his six seasons from 1979 to 1984, only Walter Payton amassed more total yards from scrimmage than our number
25:07four most underrated player.
25:12Early on in his career, he was his flat get.
25:15I mean, he was great.
25:17But later in his career, he evolved into a power guy.
25:22In 1986, a beaten up Otis Anderson was traded to the Giants.
25:27When he got to the Giants, he was tough.
25:30He was not flashy.
25:31He was not great in open field.
25:33Just gave the ball and the power went that way.
25:35Let's go with O.J.
25:37Alright, O.J.
25:40Our number four most underrated player is best known for a single, chin-busting run in his MVP effort of
25:49Super Bowl XXV.
25:52He's known, in my opinion, for that Super Bowl game.
25:56And one game does not a top ten spot make.
26:05Most people remember that late career grinder for the Giants.
26:10Tired.
26:11Sore.
26:12Legs sore.
26:13I mean, hey.
26:13Feeling your age, O.J.?
26:15Yeah, I don't know you ever talk.
26:16O.J. Anderson still holds the Cardinals' all-time rushing record by 3,350 yards.
26:23O.J.
26:24The only player is one of ten players before 1993 to have 13,000 yards from scrimmage.
26:34The other nine are in the Hall of Fame.
26:40How can he not be in the Hall of Fame?
26:43Doesn't make sense.
26:51If it wasn't for those seasons, he'd be even-
26:53In fact, the other 15 with 11,000 are in the Hall of Fame.
26:57Not him.
26:58More underrated.
26:59He'd probably be so underrated that he wouldn't be on the show because he'd be too underrated.
27:04Come on, man!
27:05What are you doing?
27:06Oh!
27:07Sadly, even we aren't above overlooking the deserving.
27:12Unacceptable.
27:13That list should be full of offensive and defensive linemen.
27:16Linemen?
27:17Nah.
27:18No.
27:18Every offensive lineman's been underrated.
27:21Yeah, that's what I said.
27:22But really what we're saying is we don't know anything about this guy.
27:25That's probably true.
27:28We'll have to be on a team, but one.
27:31Randy Cross?
27:33Absolutely.
27:34Yes!
27:35Yes!
27:36I'd put me somewhere on that list.
27:38Of course he'd.
27:38I'd put Kent Hill somewhere on that list.
27:41Kent was cut out of a piece of rock, and he could run like a deer.
27:46He's keeping up with his running back.
27:48Let me add another underrated.
27:49Great.
27:50Dexter Manley.
27:52I'm trying to get the day out.
27:54With no pay.
27:55He survived in this world and played football and became an all-pro and won a Super Bowl ring
28:01and couldn't read.
28:03Now that, I think, is underrated.
28:06Impressive.
28:09Doesn't matter.
28:09Re-rated player of all time.
28:13Charles Haley.
28:14The number three most underrated all time.
28:17Charles Haley.
28:19Yeah, that's a good one.
28:21Charles Haley's about two years of fame.
28:26Five Super Bowls?
28:27No, you can't be underrated and have five Super Bowls.
28:30Makes sense to you guys?
28:34He never had that one-off season.
28:40Did you see that?
28:41Did you see that?
28:42He went to five Pro Bowls, but he never led the league in success.
28:46Best defensive end in football.
28:48To be a good player for a long time, that's a great way to get underrated.
29:00Underrated, I think that's fair.
29:02Perhaps a victim of playing at the same time as some of the greatest pass rushers of all time.
29:06He played at the same time as Reggie White, the same time as Bruce Smith.
29:12Our number three most underrated player couldn't even escape the shadows of his own roster.
29:19He was on a team with Montana Rice.
29:24The elaborate perception of what the 49ers were, he was six, seven down on the list.
29:30And the attention he did receive wasn't always endearing.
29:34Part of Charles' shtick was, you know, as they say down here in the South, Charles wasn't right.
29:41I said, you come over here trying to block me, I'm going to hurt your ass.
29:44And you can't game plan for crazy.
29:46It's probably good that he was underrated and went under the NFL's radar.
29:52You didn't show me no love.
29:53That's what it was.
29:53You didn't show me no love.
29:55Everybody got offended by Charles Haley, but that was the beauty of it.
30:01He was a dominant big game player.
30:07Charles Haley in 12 playoff games had 11 playoff sacks.
30:12In fact, there were only two playoff games where he did not have a sack.
30:16Charles Haley wasn't just a playoff playmaker.
30:19He was a kingmaker.
30:22Charles Haley might have single-handedly switched the balance of power in the NFC.
30:27You know, the years with the 49ers, he was a dominant pass rusher.
30:31And then the 49ers made an excusable mistake of trading him to the Cowboys.
30:35And then all of a sudden, the Cowboys become the dominant team of the NFC.
30:39After winning two goals with the 49ers, our number three most underrated player went on to win three more with
30:47the Cowboys.
30:48He gave us a legitimate superstar.
30:51Now he's going to throw Haley in him and it's out in the air for a touchdown.
30:56He legitimized really our entire team.
31:00This is a great hit by Charles Haley.
31:03Here's a guy who was a part of five world champions.
31:06He was a critical part of those San Francisco championship teams.
31:11And when he came to Dallas, he was the difference maker.
31:14Does Haley get the regard he deserves?
31:17Certainly not.
31:18He's got the jewelry, though.
31:21Running back is one of the NFL's marquee positions.
31:24So what could...
31:28Make a running back underrated?
31:32One variable is constant.
31:35Definitely a small market.
31:36You know, people aren't going to know a lot about you.
31:38Perennial 1,000-yard rush of Fred Taylor received relatively little national acclaim.
31:45Fred playing in Jacksonville.
31:46Nobody even knows where Jacksonville is.
31:48I live there.
31:49I don't know where it is.
31:50I strike these numbers.
31:54Not even after they made the AFC championship game after a 14-2 season.
31:59Blowing the Dolphins out 62-7.
32:02If that wasn't good enough to get him recognition, nothing was.
32:07Kansas City's Priest Holmes, a messy football celebrity.
32:11Kansas City doesn't matter.
32:13At the end, he cares about Kansas City.
32:14But he couldn't get a knee up on our next guy.
32:17That aged terribly.
32:20The number two most underrated player of all time.
32:24Roger Craig.
32:26Number two.
32:27People never talk about Roger Craig.
32:29I'm shocked that you brought Roger Craig up to me today.
32:33Why is he underrated?
32:37I don't know.
32:38That's a good question.
32:41I think the reason he's underrated is because he doesn't have a huge volume of numbers.
32:47Craig, first down, first.
32:50He's out of the way the overlooked 49er player from that era.
32:56In 1985, our number two most underrated player achieved an NFL first, with 1,000 yards rushing
33:03and 1,000 yards receiving in the same season.
33:07Yet in 13 years of eligibility, Craig has only been a Hall of Fame finalist once.
33:13Slobs it to Craig.
33:15Touchdown 49er.
33:16He was a blueprint of how a running back can do it in their West Coast offense.
33:20Marshall Falk followed the Roger Craig template.
33:23Yes, he did.
33:24He falls in that category of guys that can do so many things so well that you don't remember
33:29them for one particular thing.
33:33The 49ers were a finesse team.
33:35Joe Montana's beautiful passes and Jerry Rice's poetic catches.
33:41Nobody who tried to tackle Roger Craig thought the 49ers were a finesse team.
33:45They thought, oh my lord, his knees are up at his shoulders and he's accelerating.
33:51He was busted, people.
33:52He knocked a couple people down, knocked a couple of his own players out of the way.
33:56Roger Craig was about knees.
33:59Pistening legs.
34:02He's chimp-pounding.
34:04Kicking the cheek.
34:05A defense by Roger Craig.
34:07I just want to make sure that you guys touchdown run in 1988.
34:11Brakes loose and Rory to 20.
34:13Loose again.
34:13There's no brakes.
34:14A defense by Roger Craig.
34:19Roger Craig was a winner.
34:2011 years in the league, 11 playoff appearances.
34:24Is that a coincidence?
34:26I think not.
34:28He was a part of the free Super Bowl champion, so he's getting his yards in meaningful games.
34:34Caught there by Craig for a touchdown.
34:36And Craig goes in for the score.
34:39And more Super Bowl rings.
34:41And off to Craig, sweep touchdown 49ers.
34:44Here it is, baby.
34:45Next year, three-peat.
34:48No thanks to you.
34:51So, why is Roger first?
34:54I got thanks to the phone.
35:05God, it hurts.
35:06It hurts to say it.
35:07I try to go off and back.
35:08If not for that, there's another Super Bowl.
35:11And I think he would already be in the Hall of Fame.
35:14That team was loaded.
35:16In all those Super Bowls, because they weren't.
35:17They wanted to make it through the top.
35:19There were other guys who were more underrated than he was.
35:22You talk about a John Taylor.
35:24He was a phenomenal player.
35:29And because they won multiple championships, he's probably higher on the list than he should be.
35:36Roger Craig was the engine that made it all stir.
35:40He did everything.
35:44I think he's got to be number one.
35:48And now, the number one most underrated player of all time, Bart Starr.
35:53No, he doesn't belong on the list.
35:55Bart Starr?
35:57I walked down the street today coming here and I heard Bart Starr's name seven times.
36:01Bart Starr underrated.
36:03He's in the Hall of Fame.
36:05He's an MVP of the Super Bowl.
36:06He's done the coin flip to the Super Bowl.
36:08What do you mean underrated?
36:10It's hard to argue that Bart Starr is underrated when he's in the Hall of Fame.
36:14In fact, I think there are some people who will tell you just the opposite.
36:18That he is overrated and doesn't even belong in the Hall of Fame.
36:21I don't know what he means by that.
36:22I don't know who I'd put ahead of him.
36:24If I were playing tomorrow, I'd want him there.
36:27Kramer should have hit you.
36:28You should allow whoever put Bart Starr number one to go to a dark room with Jerry Kramer.
36:34Jerry Kramer would beat him up.
36:37Let's just go over his resume.
36:39I'm Bart Starr.
36:40I was the 17th round draft choice of the Green Bay Packers.
36:43That's 10 rounds more than even exists right now.
36:46So first of all, underrated.
36:48Here is Starr.
36:49Four credit I guess that I can give him up here.
36:51He also has the ice ball sneak.
36:53He also has two Super Bowl championships.
36:56And he has a 15-3 touchdown-to-interception ratio in the postseason.
37:02Starr plugs as time.
37:03Throws in a great pitch.
37:05Now, just look at those numbers in a decade where they didn't throw the football a lot.
37:09And on a team that definitely didn't want to throw the football.
37:13K's for Bart Starr number one.
37:15Thank you very much.
37:19Bart Starr was a great, great player.
37:22But people will say to you, well, look what all Bart Starr had to work with.
37:27His issue, if you're looking at why he might be underrated, he's surrounded by a litany of Hall of Famers.
37:33We had Horning and Taylor.
37:35And we had a great offensive line and a great defense.
37:38And a pretty well-rounded club.
37:40All right.
37:41We make them all all right.
37:42I don't think Bart Starr gets enough credit for his accomplishments in the game.
37:47He didn't throw the ball all over the field.
37:52He played within the Lombardi system.
37:55What they're trying to get is a seal here and a seal here.
37:59And try to run this play in the alley.
38:01Here's what I want you to do as a quarterback.
38:05Get the job done.
38:07Yes, sir.
38:08Defensively, they don't seem to be coming off the ball.
38:09Maybe 53 and 52, is he?
38:11Yes, sir.
38:12And with Lombardi hovering over the franchise,
38:14sometimes you have to remember the Bart Starr actually quarterbacked the Green Bay Packers.
38:18And it wasn't Vince taking the snaps.
38:23As if Vince Lombardi's shadow wasn't big enough,
38:27our number one most underrated player had his best days
38:31while another football king was being crowned.
38:34He went head-to-head with the Unitas all through the 60s.
38:39This is a fact.
38:42The football team was picked.
38:44The coach picked the starter.
38:45Well, the two quarterbacks were starring the Unitas.
38:48Lombardi was that you picked Unitas to start the game.
38:51Oh, God.
38:52When it comes to Bart Starr,
38:54you have to think like a movie Twilight fan.
38:57There's Team Bart and there's Team Johnny.
39:01What the hell's going on out here?
39:03If you're on Team J, you're likely to underrate Bart Starr.
39:07And if you're in Bart, you're likely to overrate them.
39:08I think it's all a matter of who's doing the rating in that case.
39:15Though more popular quarterbacks have come and gone,
39:19it stars Unitas' success in the postseason.
39:22Bart's back.
39:24Do you know what his record was in playoff games?
39:279-1.
39:28He lost his first one and never lost after that.
39:33Everybody wants to think about the Super Bowls.
39:36It was more than just the Super Bowls.
39:39Kennedy's throws, has the ball, and it's the game touchdown.
39:42He won three other championships along with five championship rings.
39:46And that's more than Terry Bradshaw.
39:48That's more than Joe Montana.
39:50And you put that in perspective.
39:52And here's a guy that was completing new games during his career.
39:57Bart Starr definitely is the most underrated player in the history of the National Football League.
40:06No, he's not.
40:07You know, it's become almost trendy to say Bart Starr is underrated.
40:11Oh, he was a game manager.
40:12Nobody appreciates what Bart Starr is.
40:14Bart Starr, 17th round pick.
40:18He was drafted in the 17th round.
40:20I don't think he was underrated.
40:22I don't think he's rated about where he should be.
40:24Jeez, you cut everything off!
40:26It's weird to think that a great quarterback who won championships in Titletown could be underrated.
40:33But, yeah, maybe he is.
40:38This may be the end of our list, but we can always count on our experts to tell us which
40:43overlooked players we overlooked.
40:47Boy, you could probably say anybody not named Tom Brady.
40:51You know who the most underrated player is that's not on this list?
40:55Tom Brady.
40:56What?
40:58I'd have to put Tebow.
40:59Oh, what?
41:01As the most underrated player.
41:03That's a miserable description of him that he's underrated.
41:07I hate the people that came up with that list.
41:09I hope they all get, like, ringworm.
41:11Ringworm.
41:16Ringworm.
41:17Ringworm.
41:17Ringworm.
41:17Ringworm.
41:18Ringworm.
41:18Ringworm.
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