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Good list, lots of garbage takes from these pundits
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00:00When greed was good, we did the wave, wore members-only jackets, and had wacky haircuts.
00:08Look at my hair. Do you think I could have ever gone flock of seagulls at any point in my
00:13life?
00:14The 80s, for the most part, was embarrassing from beginning to end.
00:18Today, some products of the 80s are a little dated, but some will always look good.
00:24I just think about balls in the air, throwing the football.
00:28In the 80s, the passing game was the choice of a new gentleman.
00:34A beauty, a perfect pass to Jerry Rice.
00:36A top 10 quarterback of the 80s must have talent, stats, rings, intangibles, or some combination of the four.
00:45The catch? We're only considering what happened in the 80s.
00:50This one's for John.
00:53Sorry, John. Wait till you get a load of our list.
00:56These are our top 10 quarterbacks of the 1980s.
01:05The number 10 quarterback of the 80s, Jim McMahon.
01:10Jim McMahon is a top 10 guy for 80s quarterbacks for so many obvious reasons.
01:15I mean, the guy had his own fashion sense.
01:17Jim McMahon was a consummate punk.
01:19I mean, he was everything that you don't really see in a quarterback.
01:24He totally, totally was this anti-establishment guy and loved every minute of it.
01:30I'm going to do what I want to do, and I'm also going to market myself that way.
01:33Saying, screw it, to the establishment and cashing in market-wise.
01:37McMahon absolutely did that. The whole Bears team did that.
01:40Outrageousness?
01:44Outrageousness?
01:45There's nothing more than a way to wake people up.
01:49Especially yourself.
01:56He walked into Hallis Hall the day after he was drafted.
02:01Chewing tobacco, pair of sunglasses, and a beer in his hand.
02:06Sat down next to George Hallis, and George Hallis scratched his head going,
02:10Is this the guy?
02:11The guy at number 10 on our list was a breath of fresh air in the Windy City.
02:16In the mid-80s, Jim McMahon won 22 straight games,
02:20a record that stood until Peyton Manning broke it in 2009.
02:25McMahon looking to deal. He fired from the side of the end zone.
02:28The way McMahon did it made him a leader.
02:32He was one tough SOB, and it was almost like he should be playing defense.
02:36He wanted to have that defensive mentality.
02:38His teammates loved him, and he had this kind of crazy attitude
02:43where he was head-butting everybody.
02:45The O-linemen bought into the fact that they had an O-linemen behind them.
02:48The defense bought into the fact that that was a defender, really, a quarterback.
02:52He was the head of a gang.
02:56He thought he was a linebacker, and he would get his little butt tore to pieces, boy.
03:00All he had to do was the baseball slide, but he said,
03:03I want to get that couple extra yards.
03:05I think it was his passion and his competitiveness that ended up being his downfall.
03:08If you were to stay healthy, we'd have won two more Super Bowls.
03:13Unfortunately, the injury bug took a big bite out of Big Mac's game,
03:18leaving some of our experts to ask, where's the beef?
03:21There was too many times when he couldn't answer the bell for me to rate him as one of the
03:26top quarterbacks.
03:27One of the real things that people forget about Jim McMahon is he wasn't any good.
03:30And that seems like that should be something that people would remember about him, but they don't.
03:36They remember putting the headband on.
03:37He brought leadership and all those sorts of things, which basically meant he handed the ball off to Walter Payton
03:42a lot.
03:43The better list would have been the top ten quarterbacks that would not have won a Super Bowl with the
03:481985 Bears.
03:49David Archer, Mike Pagel.
03:51I'm going down the list here.
03:53I can't think of many others.
03:55Maybe Joey Harrington, but, you know, he was like four years old.
03:59Come on.
03:59He does not need to be on this list.
04:01Jim McMahon would have been healthy.
04:03He would not be 10th on that list.
04:05He'd be in the top three, along with a guy like Joe Montana.
04:10Wasn't that fun?
04:12Coming up.
04:13You know, he looked like an ostrich running in quicksanded.
04:17Number nine quarterback of the 80s, Bernie Kosar.
04:21Hello, I'm Bernie Kosar, and I'm honored to be the People's Choice for this year's Gillette NFL MVP Award.
04:29You look back on that decade, if you don't talk about Kosar as being in the mix of one of
04:33the greatest,
04:33then you just, you're not talking about a real list.
04:35Accurate quarterback, threw for a lot of yards, three AFC Championship games in four seasons,
04:41awesome perm.
04:42He absolutely needs to be on this list.
04:45Just to be in the conversation and to be part of that group, I consider it a heck of a
04:50compliment.
04:54Kosar was not a specimen of any type.
04:56You could, you look like you'd go in a bar in Lakewood and pluck him out and tape him on
05:01the field.
05:02If Red Grange was the galloping ghost, Bernie Kosar was the galloping goat.
05:07More like a duck.
05:09I mean, Bernie was, he was geriatric before his time.
05:15We pity the fool that emulated Bernie Kosar's mechanics.
05:20Bernie Kosar had the most unorthodox throwing motion of any quarterback in history,
05:26but Bernie got the ball there.
05:27He had great touch.
05:29I always remember him at the quarterback challenge where he's throwing the ball right through the tire every single time.
05:38Kosar was so accurate, and that's what no one could believe.
05:41It wasn't always pretty, but Bernie got the job done.
05:47The Cleveland Browns won 62% of the games Kosar started in the 80s.
05:53Kosar's been maligned for being a so-called ugly quarterback, but beauty is definitely in the eyes of the beholder.
05:59People often talked about how he was slow a foot and how his delivery took so long,
06:04but what you learn watching Bernie Kosar excel and achieve was he was a quick-minded quarterback,
06:09and quick-minded is better than quick-footed.
06:12He used to go and tell Lindy and Fonny and Marty Schottenheimer what needed to be done
06:16and how the offense should be run.
06:19Bernie had the latitude to make changes in the plays that were being called.
06:25Hey, Bernie, I know talent when I see it.
06:27I haven't spent much time talking to you about it because I can't do anything to help it.
06:30You're going to do it yourself.
06:31It became very apparent that he had the ability to do that, and so we afforded him that opportunity.
06:37He could read a defense as well, if not better, than any quarterback in the national football league.
06:44It's time to move forward from here now. We still haven't accomplished our goal yet.
06:48Our number nine quarterback turned the Browns into winners, but his nightmare was on Elway Street.
06:54And the Broncos have gone 98 yards.
06:57You talk about playoff disappointment. Nobody had it more than Bernie.
07:03If it hadn't have been for John Elway, what could Bernie Kosar have accomplished?
07:06To me, he's Charlie Brown. Football always gets pulled away by Lucy just as he's about to kick it.
07:11He's almost done football when the Broncos happened.
07:15He doesn't get the Elway ending. He gets the Bernie Kosar ending.
07:18Oh, my goodness.
07:19Doesn't Jim care.
07:20I have a lot of empathy for guys who come in seconds.
07:25Did I give us a chance to win? Yeah, I did.
07:27But did we come up short? Yeah.
07:29Did it kill me at the time? Absolutely.
07:32I don't think Bernie will be remembered for his failures, because in the eyes of a lot of Browns fans,
07:38they didn't lose because of Bernie Kosar.
07:43The number eight quarterback of the 80s, Dave Craig.
07:47Never heard of him.
07:49Did Dave Craig play in the NFL?
07:52Or is that the World League?
07:53Really?
07:54Again, you're a blithering idiot.
07:58Of course he's in the NFL.
07:59Dave Craig and Jim McMahon?
08:01Who's missing it in here, bro?
08:02Wando Cunningham was better than those guys.
08:05Dave Craig may be the 90th best quarterback, not the top 10.
08:08Was he in the NFL?
08:10For real?
08:11Never heard of him.
08:13Dave Craig had the kind of career that kind of just blends into the scenery.
08:17I would challenge you.
08:19Give me one highlight moment from Dave Craig's career.
08:22I can't remember any.
08:23I would challenge Don Banks to tell me if he's ever been to Seattle.
08:27He slipped away from Connors.
08:29Right back.
08:29Closed it.
08:30Got in the end zone.
08:31That was in 1990.
08:34Touchdown.
08:34Touchdown Seahawks.
08:37Lost but in the end zone.
08:38Touchdown Seahawks.
08:40A lot of people don't really look at David Craig because he played in Seattle.
08:46And I think Seattle is just west of the Hawaiian Island.
08:5084-85.
08:51Ground Chuck.
08:52All they do is run.
08:53Dave Craig throws for 7,400 yards in those two seasons.
08:58And 59 touchdowns.
09:00Pretty good for a ground-based offense.
09:02What's the thing about Chuck Knott being conservative, somebody once said?
09:06Ground what?
09:07Check his career statistics.
09:08They're better than most of the players, quarterbacks who are in the Hall of Fame.
09:11He was short and he played on a team that only went to the playoffs a couple of times.
09:15But statistically, he was one of the finest passers ever.
09:18Chargers rush only four.
09:19Craig goes for the pass in the end zone.
09:21Touchdown Seahawks.
09:22Dave Craig is kind of a compiler.
09:24He has a lot of good stats.
09:26But I don't know if he belongs on your list.
09:27When you really look at his numbers and when you look at what he did for the Seattle organization,
09:32I think he has every right to be on this list.
09:36Craig kind of turned that franchise around.
09:38And he was a good player.
09:40I think he still fumbled more than anybody else, didn't he?
09:42When our number eight quarterback left the game,
09:45he had the fourth most passing touchdowns in the 80s.
09:48No quarterback had been sacked more and no quarterback had fumbled more.
09:53David Craig is just one fumble away from the NFL record of all time.
09:57I remember Dave Craig as being the best quarterback in the NFL to sack.
10:02Good quarterback, good arm.
10:04The problem is small hands equals lots of fumbles.
10:07I think it's because I got hit a lot.
10:09I think it's because if you get hit hard enough, you're going to fumble the ball.
10:12So I don't think it has nothing to do with small hands.
10:17What you talking about, Willis?
10:19Dave Craig is just one of ten quarterbacks to throw for over 20,000 yards in the 80s.
10:25And his 169 touchdown passes ranks fourth in the decade.
10:30Came out of nowhere.
10:31Came out of Milton College in Wisconsin.
10:34It's a college that doesn't even exist.
10:35It doesn't even exist anymore.
10:37Exists today.
10:38And it's not that they got rid of their football program.
10:40They got rid of the whole college.
10:41Well, Craig currently is the second highest rated passer in the AFC.
10:45And he's done Milton proud.
10:51Craig never said no mas.
10:53The poster boy for perseverance ended up in three Pro Bowls.
10:57The very first one in 1984.
10:59You know, I got voted into that thing with Marino and myself.
11:02I'm like, Dan Marino and Dave Craig from Milton College.
11:05I'm going to the Pro Bowl.
11:08Dave just had an ability to make plays.
11:10He could see things on the field that nobody else could see.
11:13Dave found a way to pull a rabbit out of his hat again and again and again.
11:17Craig bubbles the snap.
11:19There's a scramble forks.
11:20Nearly fielded by the end.
11:21Craig gets it back of the 20.
11:23Oh, and it's out.
11:24Come on.
11:25Here's a guy that was maybe six foot tall and not particularly fast.
11:31He didn't have a particularly strong arm.
11:33I think Dave should be really proud of the career that he had.
11:38Up next, big tall strap.
11:40The number seven quarterback of the 80s, Joe Theismann.
11:47I'm sure Joe would quibble with seven.
11:49I'm sure it's number one for Joe.
11:52In a city of hogs, our number seven quarterback of the 80s oinked the loudest and loved hamming for the
11:59camera.
12:00With the AE-1, it's easy to shoot like a pro.
12:03The incomparable Cannon AE-1.
12:05Everybody knows Joe Theismann was a moth.
12:07You know, the TV lights went on and he was there.
12:10Joe Theismann could be in a room talking and talking and talking.
12:15You look at the Redskins, you say, my gosh, they've changed over 32 players in the last two years.
12:19They're under a new coaching staff.
12:20They've got this kid that talks too much as a quarterback sometimes.
12:25And no one had to be in that room.
12:26I mean, Joe could have a conversation with Joe.
12:28I was perceived as a cocky, egotistical, little pain in the ass.
12:32You know, it's amazing.
12:33Virgil's the smallest guy on the ball club.
12:35He's the only guy sitting down watching the game.
12:37I wasn't a popular guy, I guess you could say.
12:42Theismann's mouth wrote a lot of checks, but he won respect by proving his body could cash them.
12:47And he's wearing the single-bar face mask.
12:49He wasn't afraid to get in there and mix it up and throw a block on a sweep.
12:53He got a block from Theismann.
12:54He was a tough quarterback.
12:56I have to go to the dentist, Jack.
12:58That one blitz that came from the right side knocked my two front teeth out.
13:01You want to zoom in on him here?
13:02Bring in the camera.
13:03There goes his TV career.
13:09Let's go spread right, low 11-inch.
13:11All right.
13:12Joe Gibbs really helped Joe Theismann.
13:14For three or four years, Joe Theismann was really, really good.
13:19Pass ends up.
13:20Touchdown!
13:21In 1982, Theismann was great.
13:24The number seven quarterback on our list led the Redskins to Super Bowl XVII.
13:29Garrett's there.
13:30Touchdown!
13:31The Washington Redskins have an NFL championship.
13:37Unfortunately, even great leaders in Washington have term limits.
13:41In 1985, Theismann's leg suffered America's worst break since David Lee Roth split up with Van Halen.
13:49Good quarterback.
13:50Till Lawrence Tender broke his leg.
13:53Boy, that was beautiful.
13:54Did you see that?
13:55We've seen a lot of Theismann since then.
13:57The injury forced him in front of the camera for good.
14:01Shouldn't be this high on the list.
14:03Classic case of we remember him as a lot better of a quarterback because of his broadcasting career.
14:08We see you every weekend.
14:09We see you every Sunday or Monday night.
14:11We think you were a lot better than you were.
14:12There may be some Theismann fatigue.
14:15Some would say a little bit of Joe goes a long way.
14:17There's a little animosity towards him sometimes.
14:19He was a better player and a lot of people gave him credit for.
14:22So he probably should be a little higher on that list.
14:24It's hard to move him up much higher than seven given that he only played four and a half years
14:29that decade.
14:29Joe had a stretch where he played as well as anybody, but it wasn't a ten-year stretch.
14:34And that's probably where he's going to get ranked down some.
14:37I'm flattered and honored.
14:39And it's funny that it's the number seven.
14:40It's the number I wore it.
14:42To be at seven, I guess, is appropriate.
14:44I'm curious to see who the six are ahead of me.
14:47Number six quarterback of the 80s, Boomer Esiason.
14:52Top ten quarterbacks of the 80s.
14:54Number six.
14:54Boomer Esiason's number six.
14:56Well, he shouldn't be even in the top ten.
14:58He never won a Super Bowl.
14:59End of the end throw.
15:00Touchdown to Bader.
15:02Who do you think won a Super Bowl?
15:05Idiot.
15:12By a 10-0-1-4, Plunkett won two.
15:16Only six guys in the 80s won a Super Bowl.
15:21What the f***?
15:22Boomer never won a Super Bowl.
15:23You got him ranked above Joey T.
15:25I don't think Joey's going to like that at all.
15:27I don't know why Boomer Esiason is ranked ahead of me.
15:31It's a shame that everybody attaches a Super Bowl victory to coach's success, or in my case,
15:36a quarterback's success.
15:37No rings to speak of, but a lot of victories, a lot of yards, touchdowns.
15:42One of the top guys during the 1980s.
15:49He came into the league with a chip on his shoulder, a second-round draft pick.
15:52He thought he was going to be a top ten pick.
15:55I was very upset that I was not a first-round draft pick, and when I think back to that
15:59time,
15:59I think partly was my personality was to blame.
16:03What kind of f***ing call is that?
16:05Oh, s***.
16:07You know, it is like we gave up on that s***.
16:09The sharp-tongued lefty from Maryland actually benefited from his draft day slip.
16:14It paired him with Bengals head coach Sam Weish.
16:18Nutty professor meets freewheeling quarterback.
16:22They worked well together, because Boomer could come over to Sam,
16:26and he could say, you're an idiot.
16:28That's not going to work.
16:29Should have passed it.
16:35Our number six quarterback threw for over 18,000 yards in the decade,
16:40piloting an offense the likes the NFL had never seen.
16:44They understand to move it.
16:45No, strong right.
16:46Boomer, Sias, and Ran, the NFL's first true hurry-up-no-huddle offense.
16:51Rod Holman, touchdown.
16:53It was genius, and it was fun to watch.
16:56It was fast-break football.
16:57Touchdown.
16:58An end zone grab by Eddie Brown.
17:01He excelled because he was very quick on his feet.
17:05The more experience he got in the league, the more able he was to read defenses on the fly.
17:09This guy thinks ahead.
17:10He's always anticipating what's coming next.
17:12He's one of those photographic memory-type guys who knew the game so well.
17:17Shoot.
17:1858 G release.
17:19All right.
17:20Three.
17:21647 bend in.
17:22Boomer, Siason, head football IQ that was second to none.
17:25He was menza.
17:27He had the brain and the arm.
17:29He also had a mouth as big as Pac-Man.
17:33Attack!
17:33Attack!
17:33Let's go!
17:34Let's go!
17:34Attack!
17:35The way to go!
17:36Oh!
17:36Boomer, Sias' ego was as big as the outdoors, you know?
17:39I think quarterbacks have to have that about themselves.
17:42They have to say, I'm the best guy.
17:47What a great fake by Boomer.
17:49Oh, did that fake out that secondary completely.
17:52One of the best ever at running the play fake, Boomer won MVP honors in 1988.
17:58It was the only hard where he took home that year.
18:02Obviously, Boomer, he's that close to winning it all.
18:10I think if he had won Super Bowl 23, he probably would be a little bit higher.
18:15But Boomer being number six is good.
18:17He shouldn't be in the top five because it goes right to his head.
18:20Coming up, which beast of the...
18:22Now, number five quarterback of the 80s, Phil Simms.
18:27The quarterback is the leader of the offense.
18:29He's the one that calls the signals to assist the play in motion.
18:32In the 80s, Phil Simms wasn't comfortable in front of the camera,
18:36but fell right at home in the pocket.
18:39During the decade, he was one of only 10 quarterbacks
18:42to throw for over 4,000 yards in a season.
18:46People have the wrong impression about Phil Simms,
18:48that it was all running the football, all defense.
18:51I think Phil Simms should be much higher.
18:53Phil Simms was not a babysitter quarterback
18:56like a Trent Dilfer or a Brad Johnson.
18:58He made a lot of key plays for the New York football Giants.
19:02And Christophoboros!
19:05He was incredible in an unbelievably windy environment.
19:09Rolls of toilet paper, pieces of cut-out program,
19:12newspapers pouring down like a blizzard on Giants Stadium.
19:15What people don't realize is how difficult it is
19:18to put up numbers in that stadium.
19:21When you watch Simms and some of those really windy playoff games
19:24that the Giants played, he was very accurate
19:26and had a very tight spiral.
19:28Simms looking at...
19:29Globs in!
19:30Complete touchdown!
19:35So why is Simms only number 5 on our list?
19:39He arrived in New York with Luke Skywalker hair,
19:42but wasn't exactly a Jedi master.
19:46New York Giants first round...
19:48Moorhead State, where's Moorhead State?
19:52He tried to play Scott Burner over him.
19:54Collection.
19:57Quarterback Phil Simms, Moorhead State.
20:02Nets automatically putting him on the griddle.
20:04Who is this guy?
20:05Forget about him.
20:06Moorhead State?
20:07I've never heard of that place.
20:08Boy, did he stink up the joint to start.
20:11Phil Simms had several down seasons in the 80s.
20:13I mean, New York didn't even really embrace him.
20:15Phil Simms is hearing some sounds he doesn't like.
20:18Phil Simms fifth?
20:19I mean, that's ridiculous, right?
20:21Everybody's fixing that on one game.
20:26Phil Simms survived New York and thrived in Super Bowl XXI.
20:31He went 22 for 25 with three touchdown passes.
20:35A performance worthy of an 80s sports movie montage.
20:42Hey fellas, this is what you left for, I'm not here.
20:47To have that kind of efficiency in a championship moment is really special.
20:52For whatever reason, it doesn't be nice the way it should.
20:55But Phil Simms is a Hall of Famer.
20:58Whoa!
21:01Come on, Eileen.
21:03Do we have Simms ranked right at number five?
21:06Or should he be as high as two?
21:08Ralu Rai.
21:09Hey, there is no way that this guy is the fifth best quarterback of the 80s.
21:15People don't understand how good Phil Simms was.
21:18He was a winner.
21:18He kept winning.
21:19It's just, it's a shame.
21:23I don't understand why Theisman's behind a couple of those guys.
21:25He should absolutely be ahead of Simms.
21:27I think Theisman's body of work was superior.
21:30He's a better quarterback than Phil Simms.
21:32I think I could justifiably be at five.
21:35But of course you would expect that from me, wouldn't you?
21:39The number four quarterback of the 80s, John Elway.
21:43We can say, oh well you can't count the Super Bowl wins because that happened in the 90s.
21:47But my brain's not going to let me do that.
21:50I know he won the Super Bowls later on.
21:52I know it.
21:52It makes all the s*** that he did in the 80s much more impressive.
21:56Well, we can only consider the stuff John Elway did in the 80s.
22:01He used his arm and legs to climb to number four on our list.
22:06John Elway was one of the first quarterbacks to bring athleticism to the position
22:11and make it as important as the ability to throw the football.
22:14Nobody could do on the field as much as John Elway.
22:17He had a gun of an arm.
22:18That thing was another blue darter.
22:20That was a rich gossets fastball right down the heart of his life.
22:23He could hook with his legs as well.
22:24That's where John Elway can do it on his own.
22:28Look at Howie Long trying to chase him.
22:32Twice a year.
22:35Always awesome.
22:36I'm wondering who's number three and two.
22:42Red Black with five sixty-two.
22:44Unselection.
22:45Guys named Dan.
22:48Three and two.
22:49Fountain Marino.
22:50Shoot it in on one on one.
22:51Hurry up!
22:52You always think of John Wayne.
22:54You can say what you want to.
22:56I don't think I want anybody back there except number seven.
22:59That gate tells you that he's the quarterback, that he's in charge.
23:03Twenty to thirteen in favor of Cleveland.
23:05Let's see what happens here as this one kicks down to its final moment.
23:09Ninety-eight yards right down the field in Cleveland.
23:12Elway threaded the needle for twenty-two yards.
23:15He was the scariest presence in those last minutes of any quarterback of that time.
23:21You just knew he was going to beat you.
23:23Touchdown!
23:24Mark Jackson.
23:25I hate John Elway.
23:26This guy will go down as the greatest come-from-behind player in National Football League history.
23:32I think you can make a pretty strong argument that he was the best player of that decade.
23:38So why is Elway only fourth on our list of 80s quarterbacks?
23:43Well, you can't make great come-backs without first falling behind.
23:471980s John Elway ran around too much.
23:50He overthrew receivers.
23:521980s John Elway?
23:54He's right about on par with Phil Simms.
23:56He didn't, he wasn't efficient.
23:59He was one of the ten least efficient quarterbacks of the 80s.
24:03If you go look at the numbers.
24:05Elway fit perfectly at a time when ESPN was becoming popular.
24:10In the 80s, John Elway was a highlight quarterback.
24:13Blackout gets a twenty-two yard touchdown to Hardway.
24:16Elway would make these great individual plays, but he was not a consistent quarterback through the 80s.
24:22Elway and the Broncos were consistently bad in Super Bowls, going 0-3 in the 80s.
24:28Considering who's on the list, I think four is pretty fair.
24:31You're making all these comebacks, a lot of great runs, but at the end of the day, you're not winning
24:35the big game.
24:36There were twenty-one other guys who were grabbing the bed the same time he was.
24:39No good left.
24:41Okay defenses, no running games, and who were starting wide receivers?
24:46He had the number eight or seven defense in 87, and number one defense in 89.
24:54And we're disrespecting those guys to call them okay.
25:00To try and kiss Elway's job.
25:07Three amigos!
25:09Vance Johnson, Ricky Nathiel, Mark Jackson.
25:11He got those Broncos teams to those early Super Bowls.
25:14If it hadn't been for him, they would not have gotten there.
25:20Our number four quarterback of the 80s was huge in Japan.
25:30John Elway is the best quarterback to ever play the game of football.
25:37This is not audible.
25:38This is not up for debate.
25:39But I thought he was a great quarterback in the 80s.
25:42Was he the best?
25:43No.
25:44Anybody argues that?
25:45Don't even put him on.
25:46Please remain seated.
25:49The top three are on the way.
25:51He was great.
25:52Two decades.
25:53I think you can put him in either one.
25:56What two-decade star was good enough to beat out Elway?
25:59The answer is ahead.
26:07Hello.
26:08Do you want to...
26:09Sure.
26:10You want me to help you with your groceries?
26:11This journey with childhood cancer comes at you in waves.
26:16Every day we wake up knowing that our two-year-old has cancer.
26:20It's tough to get through.
26:23The tumor is about the size of a baseball.
26:26I believe in the power of...
26:30The Canadian Football League is back.
26:35The United States were on the losing side because they were passing at the end of the game,
26:40trying to get back in the game and picking up some cheap yards.
26:44At number three on our list, the founding member of the decade's 4,000-yard club.
26:50Hey!
26:51Dan Fouts.
26:52Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Eric Coyle and your pilot, Dan Fouts, welcome to San Diego.
26:59When you talk about the statistical measurement of a quarterback,
27:03who is better than this guy for such a long run in the 80s?
27:06Steps up under pressure, throwing deep to Joyner.
27:09Touchdown, Carter!
27:11That's a tough call.
27:12Dan Fouts ahead of John Elway.
27:14Yellow 19!
27:15Elway was dragging a corpse of a franchise around during the 80s
27:19and gets them to three Super Bowls.
27:21Fouts brings his squads to zero.
27:24Fouts is on this list.
27:25He's a top four guy.
27:26But Elway's got to be ahead of him.
27:28Elway was the better 1980s quarterback.
27:30Oh, quit your bitchin'!
27:32The career?
27:36Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
27:38Let's do the numbers.
27:40Hold it.
27:40Let's do the numbers.
27:46The decade?
27:47Yeah.
27:48Dan Fouts belongs ahead of John Elway, no question.
27:51Let's see.
27:52In the 80s,
27:54Fouts,
27:55completion percentage 60.
27:58Elway's 54.
28:01Fouts 7,000 yards ahead.
28:03Fouts 52 touchdowns ahead.
28:09What is, what is the argument?
28:12Show me, show me a John Elway season where you have 4,800 yards.
28:20And when I think back to Dan Fouts, playing with a bloody nose and blood all over his jersey
28:25and a torn groin.
28:27He was a tough quarterback in an era of tough quarterbacks.
28:31For a quarterback to show toughness is important because it shows the other guys, hey, if he can do it,
28:38we can do it.
28:39Fouts was as tough as Rubik's Cube.
28:42He was also tough on his teammates.
28:45Come on, run out of the brakes now.
28:47Read it on, run out of the brakes.
28:49He expected, you know, perfection from everybody.
28:52And when you didn't do those things, he would tell you.
28:56You run out of the brakes.
28:57I'm running out of the brakes.
28:58Tiffy tore like a m***h.
29:00You're waking up with Dan right here.
29:01I will.
29:03And you're out of here.
29:04You're out of here.
29:05Dan Fouts wore a hat all week long.
29:09MFIC.
29:11In charge.
29:13And he was definitely back.
29:17He didn't have what you would say a classic quarterback's body.
29:21And he didn't move around like we see quarterbacks nowadays.
29:25But he did have the luck.
29:26You could just picture him in Montana or Wyoming just throwing the football at a bear, trying to knock the
29:32bear down.
29:33He probably could.
29:34He could deliver the pass on the money, even though the rush was completely encircling him.
29:40And the curtain was about to be dropped on him.
29:45The knock on our number three quarterback is that he was a product of a unique system that was loaded
29:51with superstars.
29:53Fouts was...
29:54That has to be a knock.
29:55He had better...
29:57He had much better offers of talent than Elway.
30:02Actually, everybody on this list did.
30:05The blast was great receivers.
30:07The weapons he had with Winslow and Joyner and Chandler and Jefferson.
30:11It just went on and on and on.
30:13We'll go far right 50.
30:15Belly on blue.
30:15Ready?
30:16He was the perfect driver for the perfect vehicle here.
30:20I already didn't make myself clear.
30:22I meant...
30:22Well, I think I understood you.
30:24Is that what you wanted?
30:26We had a lot of talented people, but Dan pulled it all together.
30:30He was the straw that stirred the drink.
30:33The Chargers were not going to be Eric Correale without Dan Fouts.
30:40When we look at the quarterbacking position, I think at the end of the day, we'll always get back to
30:45passing yardage and touchdowns and sort of the eye candy that we view.
30:50Fouts was the pop rocks of eye candy.
30:53His 28,000 passing yards was the second most of the decade.
30:56And after the first two years of the 80s, he had recorded the two top passing seasons in NFL history.
31:04When he threw for 4,000 yards, that was huge.
31:08I couldn't believe a quarterback could throw for 4,000 yards.
31:12Dan Fouts changed the history of the National Football League and how teams had to learn to play defense.
31:20He was ahead of his time.
31:21I think he was the first of that generation.
31:23He made it happen.
31:25And I think there's been a lot of quarterbacks that have followed that style since then.
31:30Coming up, who could it be now?
31:32Which two of these men at work top our list?
31:36These questions are three.
31:38The number two quarterback of the 80s, Dan Marino.
31:45Crockett and Tubbs kind of put us on the map in a lot of ways.
31:48And then here comes Dan.
31:52Dan Marino.
31:54Dan Marino.
32:14I think the average fan might say that Marino's too high on the list at number two.
32:20But Dan Marino had one of the greatest arms football's ever seen.
32:24Perfectly thrown past by Dan Marino.
32:27The time his brain told him he was going to throw the football, the ball was released quicker than anybody
32:32we've ever seen.
32:33You never really started to hear about a quick release among quarterbacks until Marino came along.
32:37Danny always had big ones and they were made of brass.
32:40He had confidence in the arm.
32:42What you see on that field is what Dan Marino was about.
32:46He's blue collar.
32:47He's Italian.
32:48He's a hugger.
32:49He's a crier.
32:50He's emotional.
32:51He brought that to every huddle.
32:53Let's go.
32:53Let's go.
32:53Play with some urgency now.
32:55Every sideline, whether they played the Orange Bowl or they played in whatever they're calling Joe Robbie Stadium nowadays.
33:00Dan Marino brought it.
33:02He's real.
33:02He deserves to be number two.
33:04He's one of the best of all time.
33:09Dan Marino.
33:10This thing is made of steel, folks.
33:13Though our number two quarterback of the 80s looked more like Michael Knight than the $6 million man,
33:19the way he played represented a quantum leap forward in the game, especially in Miami.
33:26Remember, this is a Dolphin team that won a Super Bowl with Zonka and Morris.
33:33This was a whole new style of football.
33:36For the Marino, you're a big play coach.
33:38You wanted Dan to have the opportunity to make the big plays that he could make.
33:42Here's Marino, wide open field, throws for a touchdown, and there's a record.
33:47He has thrown his 37th touchdown pass of the season.
33:50That's a new record.
33:50In 1984, Marino set NFL records by throwing for over 5,000 yards and 48 touchdowns.
33:57And despite not playing until 1983, his 220 touchdown passes were tops in the 80s.
34:05Going deep up the sidelines.
34:06Got it.
34:07Touchdown.
34:08They're pinball numbers.
34:09They're arena football numbers.
34:10They're XFL numbers.
34:11If Marino's not one, he's damn close.
34:15He's going deep.
34:16Got a man down there.
34:17And there's a touchdown.
34:18Oh, ho, ho.
34:23While Marino was a top gun, he only appeared in one Super Bowl during the decade and lost it.
34:30Does that mean we're Mavericks for putting him so high on our list?
34:36Dan has all the numbers.
34:38He just never won.
34:39For young Dan Marino, his first Super Bowl will be a loss.
34:42He has all the numbers, but he never won.
34:45I could say that like the mantra over and over again, Dan didn't win.
34:49And there's no way to act like anything else he did could make up for that.
34:52If Dan would have won one Super Bowl, he would be the number one quarterback.
34:58I think you could make a case for him being lower, but absolutely not higher.
35:02I think Phil Simms should be much higher.
35:04He won a Super Bowl.
35:05It's natural to say that Dan Marino was great, but Phil Simms stepped up when he needed to
35:11and led his team to a Super Bowl.
35:13For those people who believe...
35:14He's not taking Phil Simms over Dan Marino.
35:17Anybody suggesting Phil Simms should be above Dan Marino in any category is...
35:24should be barred from talking about football.
35:26That great quarterbacking is solely defined by winning Super Bowls,
35:30they will never view Dan Marino as truly elite.
35:34Marino, deep drop, throwing deep upfield, down the near side, man open, touchdown!
35:38Dan Marino belongs at the top of any list when you talk about great quarterbacks in the 1980s.
35:43The crowd is getting restless.
35:46Who's the...
35:48And now, the number one quarterback of the 80s is no surprise.
35:53Of the 80s, I would assume it would be Joe Montana, unless I'm missing something.
35:56Of the 80s?
35:57Uh, oh, yeah.
36:00Considering in the 80s, he was a part of, like, four Super Bowl teams.
36:05Fouts was none.
36:06Elway was none.
36:08Marino was none.
36:09None.
36:12Uh...
36:13Because of you guys.
36:15Marino didn't win because of you.
36:17Elway didn't win because of him.
36:20Sideson didn't win because of him.
36:21Anderson didn't win because of him.
36:23What's the common theme for the other guys?
36:28At the dawn of the decades, there was little reason to think Joe Montana would ultimately top the list of
36:3480s quarterbacks.
36:36Joe Montana was not viewed as a prototype NFL quarterback.
36:41Steve Bartkowski was.
36:426'4", 230 pounds.
36:44Stood in the pocket, rocket-armed.
36:47My guess is Joe Montana was not on very many people's draft boards before the 5th or 6th round.
36:52He wasn't a great player in Notre Dame just by passing through town.
36:56A third-round pick in 1979, Montana led the decade in passing yards, completions, Pro Bowls, and playoff wins.
37:06You'd leave a game and you'd feel like he never landed a punch, but you lost.
37:10You know, he was like hitting you with pillows.
37:11He was the artist out there.
37:13Joe was a technician.
37:15Not the biggest arm, not the strongest arm, not the fastest guy, but he was an absolute perfectionist and a
37:22technician when it came to play in the position of quarterback.
37:35Nobody did it with the ease and the calmness of one Joe Montana.
37:39Here is Montana throwing for the end zone.
37:42Right late.
37:43He's got it.
37:44Joe Montana made it look easy.
37:47It's not that easy.
37:49Back to throw Montana.
37:51Steps up, throws.
37:53Touchdown.
37:55Joe Montana played in four Super Bowls.
37:57He was MVP three times in those four games.
38:01He threw 11 touchdowns with zero interceptions.
38:06Joe Montana, when he got to the ultimate game, was literally perfect.
38:11There is no other.
38:12It's Joe Montana.
38:13Yeah, 12 touchdowns total if you include rushing.
38:18Zero turnovers.
38:20And everybody else.
38:24Oh, it's all right.
38:26The Niners were happy to be stuck with Joe.
38:29His 86 wins are 21 more than his nearest 80s peer.
38:33It's hard to argue against Montana, but if you separate the numbers and you look at the greatest pure passer,
38:40I don't think there's any way you can argue anybody against Dan Marino.
38:44You know, the debate down here was always Marino versus Montana, and it was, you know, statistics versus rings, and
38:50Marino could never win that argument.
38:52I would call it a tie.
38:54At one point, Dan Marino held all the important records in passing, period.
38:59I'm wanted.
39:00What for, Sheriff?
39:01I'm just a 49er looking for a little gold.
39:04Joe Montana had a great defense.
39:06Joe Montana had great running backs, had a great offensive line.
39:09He had a great coach.
39:10If you don't get what you want, you'll simply throw the ball away.
39:13Montana was great, but if Young puts up the same win-loss record over his career as a Niner, maybe
39:21it's more about the supporting cast.
39:23I recall Dan Fouts having a lot of weapons in the 80s on those Charger teams.
39:28I recall Dan Marino having a lot of weapons.
39:31But yet, where those guys failed, Joe Montana was still able to complete that task, so I don't think that
39:38should be a strike against Joe, that he had great players around him.
39:41Let's face it, you win that many Super Bowls, you can't do it without a Hall of Fame legend quarterback,
39:46and this guy was the best that there was in the 80s.
39:48To me, the 80s would be defined by the one guy.
39:53That's Joe Montana.
39:54You know, I think these rankings are a bunch of crap.
39:56I mean, who's making the rankings?
39:58What does it matter?
40:00You know?
40:02Seriously, how are you picking Joe Montana over John Elway under Dan Fouts?
40:09What?
40:10As opposed to Warren Moon or Terry Bradshaw or, I mean, you know what I'm saying?
40:18Terry Bradshaw played four years in the 80s, three of them as a starter.
40:23No.
40:23No.
40:24No.
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