07:47Donc, M. Barroso, parce que c'est très important,
07:52votre conseil pour le président de la Commission,
07:55pour l'Aïe, pour l'Aïe Kayakala,
07:56c'est pas de wait à la clarification ou la légal assessment,
08:01mais de simplement qu'ils ne sont pas invités.
08:02Ne pas invités à la meeting.
08:04Non, je ne dis pas que ça.
08:06Ce que je disais, c'est pour l'Aïe,
08:07c'est pour l'Aïe, c'est pour l'Aïe,
08:11c'est pour l'Aïe, c'est pour l'Aïe,
08:11c'est pour l'Aïe, c'est pour l'Aïe,
08:12et pour l'Aïe, c'est pour l'Aïe.
08:15C'est la matière de break-up de confidants
08:17entre les countries, et en fait,
08:20de la lumière de la information
08:21de la Commission européenne.
08:23Ce que je pense...
08:25C'est sûr que je devrais clarifier,
08:27si la clarification n'est pas suffisant,
08:30je pense qu'en certaines choses,
08:32le président de la Commission européenne
08:34peut dire qu'on va se mettre en Angéry.
08:38C'est très important que nous venons,
08:40in Hungary and in all member states,
08:43countries and governments
08:44that respect the basic principles
08:47of decent behavior
08:48and trust. And if they don't,
08:51in fact, there should
08:53be a reaction of the other countries
08:55and the European institutions.
08:56When you look at the European leadership now,
08:58you talk about the different voices
08:59and the different sensitivities.
09:01Who is best representing the interests
09:03of the European Union on the global stage?
09:07I know.
09:08There is always that debate in Europe
09:10about a kind of a face.
09:11I believe that's
09:15not the right approach
09:16to European leadership.
09:17The question that we have to ask ourselves,
09:19are we in Europe in favor
09:21of having someone in Brussels
09:24signing executive orders
09:25like the U.S. president?
09:27No, we don't have.
09:28The Commission is doing its job.
09:30The President and the Council is doing its job.
09:32And the governments, namely the governments
09:33of the most influential countries,
09:35are trying to do their job.
09:37So it's, by definition,
09:39European leadership is more institutional-based
09:41than personal-based,
09:43which is not necessarily bad, you see.
09:45And I think it's,
09:46with that experience of 22 years
09:48in European Union and decision-making,
09:50I tell you,
09:51we are not going to get,
09:52in the future,
09:53in the foreseeable future,
09:55one voice,
09:56one face,
09:57one leader.
09:57And although very often I said
10:00I would like to have
10:01because it will be quicker,
10:03it will be more decisive,
10:04the reality is that
10:05there are also some advantages
10:06in avoiding a centralized,
10:09completely centralized leadership
10:11because sometimes we have seen
10:13other parts of the world
10:14it does not work better
10:15because they are only one.
10:20Jose Manuel Broso there
10:21speaking to our Maria Tadeo.
10:23Now, apart from that diplomatic scandal,
10:25Hungary is also being criticized
10:27for blocking a 90 billion euro loan
10:29to Ukraine
10:30over the Druspa pipeline spat.
10:32This was, of course,
10:33a major theme
10:34of a recent summit here
10:35in Brussels.
10:36To find out if there's been
10:37any movement here,
10:38we can now turn to
10:39our Ukraine correspondent,
10:40Sasha Bakalina.
10:41Good morning, Sasha.
10:42So what are Ukraine's options now?
10:43Well, Ukraine publicly
10:45has been stating
10:46that it has full trust
10:48in the European Union
10:49and the president
10:50of the European Commission
10:51and the president
10:52of the European Council
10:53who have insisted
10:54that the EU will find a way
10:55of unblocking
10:56those 90 billion loan to Ukraine.
10:58But at the same time,
10:59Kyiv is running out of money
11:01and needs this financial support
11:02really urgently.
11:03And it is looking
11:04at other possible partners
11:06with the escalation
11:07in the Middle East.
11:08Those partners could be indeed
11:10in the Middle East
11:11and in the Gulf regions
11:13among the countries
11:13who have officially requested
11:15Ukraine's help
11:15and expertise
11:16in countering Iranian drowns.
11:18And President Zelenskyy
11:19did admit it,
11:21saying that Ukraine
11:22is looking for other partners
11:24elsewhere away from Europe.
11:26Let's take a listen.
11:29Ukraine offers
11:30a mutually beneficial partnership.
11:32We can strengthen those
11:34who can strengthen us.
11:35We can see that
11:36we are being blocked in Europe
11:37and as long as the risk remains,
11:39we need to look for further opportunities
11:41to strengthen our position.
11:42The Middle East
11:43and the Gulf region
11:44represent, in our view,
11:46the right direction to take
11:47and offer significant opportunities
11:49to strengthen our position.
11:53President Zelenskyy there,
11:54losing a little bit of patience
11:55with Brussels.
11:56Of course,
11:56we've been discussing
11:56this potential loan
11:57for months here.
11:58But Brussels has promised
12:00they will find a way
12:01to unlock this loan, Sasha.
12:02But yet,
12:03we're seeing Budapest now
12:04halting gas transit
12:05as well to Ukraine.
12:06Absolutely.
12:07Let's take a little step back
12:08and see what is it
12:10that Hungary
12:10has been blocking for a while.
12:12Now, we have this 90 billion loan.
12:13We also have the new package
12:15of sanctions against Russia
12:17also being blocked by Hungary.
12:19There is also a veto
12:20regarding the opening
12:21of the clusters
12:22and any proceedings
12:23regarding Ukraine's
12:24EU accession process.
12:25Now, recently,
12:26Hungary also announced
12:27it would cut diesel,
12:29electricity,
12:30and now natural gas transit.
12:32Now, these are all the,
12:33all those tools
12:34already used
12:36or announced
12:37announced by Budapest
12:38that doesn't really leave
12:39much rest in this arsenal.
12:42What else can Hungary do
12:43in this dispute
12:45with Kyiv
12:46over the Druzba pipeline?
12:48Now, let's take a listen
12:49to what Viktor Orban
12:50had to say
12:51about this new measures.
12:55Ukraine has been blocking
12:57the operations
12:58of the Friendship
12:58oil pipeline
12:59for 30 days.
13:01In order to break
13:02the oil blockade
13:03and ensure
13:03Hungary's secure
13:04energy supply,
13:06further measures
13:07are now needed.
13:08Therefore,
13:09we will gradually halt
13:10gas deliveries
13:10from Hungary to Ukraine
13:11and store the remaining
13:13volumes at home.
13:14As long as Ukraine
13:16does not supply oil,
13:18it will not receive
13:19gas from Hungary.
13:23Hungary is indeed
13:24a very important
13:25transit route
13:25for natural gas
13:26for Ukraine.
13:27It represents
13:27around 30%
13:29of all the inputs,
13:31but at the same time
13:32Ukraine foreign ministry
13:32said that at this stage
13:34Ukraine has enough
13:35to go on for a while,
13:37but also there are
13:38alternative routes
13:39that have already
13:40been discovered
13:41and used.
13:42First and foremost,
13:43this is Poland.
13:44So it remains to be seen
13:44how actually,
13:45how strong
13:46and how efficient
13:47for Budapest
13:48this new measure
13:48would be
13:49in this dispute
13:50over Druzba.
13:51OK, thank you so much,
13:51Sascha.
13:52Sascha Vakilina
13:53there reporting.
13:53For us,
13:54and now to take a look
13:55at how all these issues
13:56are impacting
13:57Polish-Hungarian relations,
13:59our Polish reporter
14:00Jakub Janus
14:01brings us this report.
14:04Not so long ago,
14:05Poland and Hungary
14:06used to be the ultimate
14:07power couple
14:08of Central Europe.
14:09Today,
14:10Polish Prime Minister
14:11Donald Tusk
14:12is publicly calling
14:13Budapest alleged handling
14:14of EU secrets
14:15a disgrace
14:16and strongly condemns
14:17its growing loyalty
14:18to Moscow.
14:19and this is no longer
14:20just a political
14:21disagreement.
14:23It's a full-blown
14:24fracture built
14:25over years
14:25over Russian connections
14:26and ideological clashes.
14:28So let's see
14:29the timeline,
14:30shall we?
14:32Under Polish
14:33previous law and justice
14:34government,
14:35Warsaw and Budapest
14:36were inseparable,
14:37shielding each other
14:38from the EU's penalties.
14:39But Russia's
14:41full-scale invasion
14:41of Ukraine
14:42caused a massive crack.
14:44Poland became
14:45Kiev's biggest champion,
14:46while Viktor Orban
14:48refused to break
14:48his ties
14:49with Vladimir Putin.
14:50And the rift
14:51grew so deep
14:52that even Polish
14:53conservative leader
14:54Jarosław Kaczyński
14:55told Orban
14:56to get his eyes
14:57checked
14:57over Russian atrocities.
14:59Fast forward
15:00to today
15:01and the situation
15:02got even more tense.
15:03Budapest
15:04has become
15:05a safe haven
15:06for wanted
15:06law and justice
15:07politicians
15:08fleeing Tusk's
15:09new government.
15:10And former
15:11Polish justice minister
15:12Zbigniew Dziobro
15:13is currently hiding
15:14in Hungary,
15:15evading criminal charges
15:17of corruption
15:17and abuse of power.
15:20And the relationship
15:21derailed completely
15:22this week
15:22after reports
15:23that Hungary's
15:24foreign minister
15:25was allegedly
15:26leaking EU meeting
15:27details to Moscow,
15:29prompting Tusk
15:30to admit
15:30Warsaw has suspected
15:31this betrayal
15:32for years.
15:34Now the conflict
15:35is tearing Poland
15:36itself apart.
15:38MAGA-aligned
15:39Polish president
15:40Karol Nawrocki
15:41is defying
15:42pro-EU Tusk
15:43by traveling
15:43to Budapest
15:44to stand
15:45with Orbán
15:46right before
15:46the April 12 elections.
15:49And it is
15:50an ironic
15:50twist of history.
15:51These two nations
15:53shared monarchs
15:54in the late
15:54Middle Ages
15:55like Louis the Great
15:56and Stefan Batory.
15:57And after
15:58centuries
15:59of surviving
16:00empires,
16:01world wars
16:01and communism
16:02together,
16:03it seems
16:04that current
16:04geopolitical
16:05alliances
16:06and Russian ties
16:07are breaking
16:08a relationship
16:09long defined
16:10by the old proverb.
16:11Paul and Hungarian,
16:13two good friends
16:14together for the
16:15sword
16:15and the wine.
16:22Jakob Janis
16:23reporting for us
16:24there.
16:24Now moving on,
16:25foreign ministers
16:26of the G7.
16:27So the group of seven
16:28that includes
16:29Canada,
16:29France,
16:30Germany,
16:30Italy,
16:31Japan,
16:31the UK,
16:32the US
16:32and the European Union
16:34are gathering
16:34in an abbey
16:35today and tomorrow
16:36near Paris.
16:37On their agenda,
16:38the ongoing wars
16:39in the Middle East
16:40and Ukraine,
16:40a global energy
16:42crisis and a
16:42choked Strait of Hormuz.
16:44For more on
16:45what we should expect,
16:46I'm joined here
16:47in the studio
16:47by your news's
16:48correspondent,
16:48Maya Dalaboom.
16:49So quite a context
16:50here that they're
16:51gathering in.
16:51What should we expect?
16:53Yes,
16:53as you said,
16:54the foreign affairs
16:54ministers of the G7
16:55are coming,
16:57are gathering
16:58near Paris
16:59to talk about
16:59the most pressing
17:00issues.
17:00We know what
17:01these issues are,
17:02mainly Iran,
17:03but also how to
17:04enhance support
17:05for Ukraine.
17:06So this comes
17:07at a very
17:08sensitive time,
17:09as you know.
17:09We have conflicting
17:10reports now
17:11on whether America
17:13is really
17:14talking to Iranians
17:15if there is
17:16a peace plan
17:17going on
17:18right now.
17:19Clearly,
17:20on Ukraine,
17:21the other issue
17:21is how to
17:23talk about Ukraine
17:24when this issue
17:25has been really
17:26overshadowed by Iran
17:27in the past week.
17:29So how to put back
17:30Ukraine on the agenda
17:32and how to
17:33enhance support.
17:34And this will be
17:35very interesting
17:36for the G7,
17:37for Europeans
17:38in the G7
17:39to talk to Rubio
17:40about this,
17:40to have a first,
17:41you know,
17:42account of what
17:43is happening
17:44in Iran
17:44and with Ukraine.
17:45Well,
17:45they're hoping
17:46they'll get more
17:46information on this
17:47peace plan,
17:48this potential
17:48peace plan.
17:49Yes,
17:49so we talk about
17:50a potential
17:50peace plan,
17:51but nothing
17:51is very certain,
17:52nothing is really
17:53confirmed.
17:53On one side,
17:54you have,
17:55you know,
17:55talks,
17:56ongoing talks
17:57between Americans
17:58and Iranians,
17:59and Pakistan
18:00is being the
18:02country brokering
18:03these negotiations.
18:05We talk about,
18:06we hear about
18:07a 15-point peace
18:08plan there,
18:09but nothing is
18:10confirmed.
18:10And on the other
18:11side,
18:11you have ongoing
18:12strikes in Iran,
18:13and you have
18:15an announcement
18:15from the Pentagon
18:16saying that they
18:17will send 2,000
18:18airborne troops.
18:19So, you know,
18:19the war is still
18:21there,
18:21and on the other
18:22side,
18:22there are talks
18:23of peace.
18:24So it's not
18:25very clear,
18:26as we know
18:26from the start,
18:27it's not clear,
18:28but it's not clear
18:28now.
18:29So Rubio will be
18:30the one maybe
18:31giving a little
18:32more clarity
18:32on the situation.
18:33So all eyes,
18:34of course,
18:34on Marco Rubio
18:35for some clarity
18:36on what is next
18:37on a war that,
18:38of course,
18:38is really impacting
18:39us here in the
18:40European Union.
18:41Maia de Le Boon,
18:41thank you so much
18:42for that update.
18:43Well, that brings
18:44this edition of
18:45Europe Today to an end.
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18:47for tuning in.
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